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About Llewelyn Chwith ap Cynwrig
See Darrell Wolcott, "The Pedigree of Cynddelw Gam," http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id94.html for untangling and clarification of these lines. (April 12, 2016, Anne Brannen, curator)
From recent correspondence between myself and Darrell Wolcott For some reason the chart in the middle does not show properly unless you are in edit mode. My apologies. (Steven Ferry, October 29, 2017.): Hello Darrell,
Hope all is well with you. I have a question concerning the above named Cynwrig. In Pedigree of “Edwin Bendew II” you show him under person # 44, Robert ap Iorwerth ap Rhiryd, as married to Angharad ferch Robert, and listing his birth as c: 1330. You go on to say that his line descends from Hedd ap Alunog.
In Pedigree of Cynddelw Gam of Ystrad Alun, under person # 273, Dafydd Lloyd ap Gruffudd ap Cadwgan Decca, in discussing that man’s wife, Gwenllian ferch Llewelyn Fychan, you carry her line back to a c: 1300 Cynwrig ap Bleddyn Lloyd ap Bleddyn Fychan, and continuing to Hedd ap Alunog.
Are these two separate men, ostensibly from a cousin line? If so, what is the line between the c: 1330 Cynwrig ap Bleddyn Lloyd and Hedd ap Alunog?
Hi Steve,
While there were indeed two cousin lines in this family who shared a long string of male names, the Cynwrig ap Bleddyn Llwyd in both the pedigrees you mention is the same man, born c. 1300. I had long ago moved the Angharad ferch Robert ap Iorwerth who married Cynwrig ap Bleddyn Llwyd from #44 in the Ednowain Bendew II pedigree, to #28, and dated her to c. 1310 rather than c. 1340. This was a case where both the wife and the husband came from families with same-named cousin branches. I had not, however, updated the Ednowain pedigree on our website.
The Hedd family began their "cuteness" with Gwion, one of 4 sons of Rhiwallon ap Radfarch:
1145 Radfarch ap Asser
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1205 Bleddyn Cowryd Madog 1210 Gwion
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1240 Bleddyn Fychan 1240 Bleddyn
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1270 Bleddyn Llwyd 1270 Bleddyn Fychan
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1300 Cynwrig (a) 1305 Bleddyn Llwyd
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1340 Cynwrig (b)
(a) He married Angharad ferch Robert ap Iorwerth and had sons Gronwy, Hywel and Llewelyn Chwith
(b) His wife is unknown; he had sons Dafydd, Gruffudd, Gronwy and Llewelyn and daughter Marged.
Some sources add "Chwith" to his son Llewelyn.
Cheers, Darrell
PS It would not surprise me if the "Gwion" in this chart was actually a man called Radfarch y wyrion, named the same as his grandfather. And Radfarch might have been a nickname since many sources call him Rhahawd Bach. (Radfarch = cheap or free horse)
Please see Darrell Wolcott: Pedigree of Cynddelw Gam of Ystrad Alun; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id94.html; [#273] (Steven Ferry, December 5, 2017.)
Please see Darrell Wolcott: "Bartrum's Pedigrees of the Welsh Tribal Patriarchs" - #27 - Dafydd ap Llywarch of Eglwys Bach; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id257.html. (Steven Ferry, March 16, 2021.)
Please see Peter Bartrum: Dafydd ap Llywarch; https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000173389054844 & Hedd 5 (F); https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000173409227960 (Steven Ferry, June 13, 2023.)
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