Margery de la Beche

She died in 1349. Her various IPMs held in 1349 give six different death dates - 27 September, 1 October, 2 October, 3 October, 4 October, and 20 October. Later IPMs held in 1352 and 1356 record her death date as 20 March. Two of the later IPMs record her death place as Caleys.

Note: Inquisition post mortems (IPMs) were held when people of some status were thought or known to have held lands of the crown. They give details of what lands were held (a separate one was held for each county involved), and by what tenure, and from whom, as well as the date of death, and the name and age of the heir.

• Margery Poynings1,2,3,4
• F, #16580, d. 20 March 1349
• Father Sir Michael de Poynings1,2,5,6 b. c 1270, d. 24 Jun 1314
• Mother Margery Bardolf2,5,6 d. a 24 Feb 1334
• Margery Poynings married Sir Edmond Bacon, Constable of Wallingford Castle, son of Sir Robert Bacon and (Miss) d' Hingham, between 1323 and 1326; They had 1 daughter (Margery, wife of Sir William de Moleyns).1,2,3,4 Margery Poynings married Sir Nicholas de la Beche, Constable of the Tower before 1337; No issue.2,3,4 Margery Poynings married Sir John de Dalton, son of Robert de Dalton, on 30 March 1347; Forcibly carried off and married.2,3,4 Margery Poynings died on 20 March 1349 at Calais, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.2,3
• Family 1 Sir Edmond Bacon, Constable of Wallingford Castle d. 6 Mar 1336
• Child
  • Margery Bacoun+3 b. c 1336, d. 1 Jun 1399
• Family 2 Sir Nicholas de la Beche, Constable of the Tower d. c 1 Mar 1345
• Family 3 Sir John de Dalton d. 1369
• Citations
• [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 388-389.
• [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 59-60.
• [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 105-106.
• [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 420.
• [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 105.
• [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 419.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p552.htm#i... _______________
• Margery De POYNINGS
• Born: ABT 1298
• Died: AFT 30 Mar 1347
• Father: Michael De POYNINGS (Sir Knight)
• Mother: Margery De AGUILLON
• Married 1: Edmund BACON (Sir)
• Children:
  • 1. Margery BACON
• Married 2: John De DALTON (Sir Knight)
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/POYNINGS.htm#Margery De POYNINGS1 _______________
• Margery Poynings
• (c.1310-1349)
• 'Lady De La Beche of Aldworth'
• Born: circa 1310
• Died: 1349
• Margery was the daughter of Michael, Lord De Poynings. She was first married to Edmund Bacon, of Essex, who was descended from Sir John Bacon of Ewelme (Oxfordshire). She held the Manor of Hatfield Peverall, which Edward II had granted to Edmund Bacon in fee in 1310, for the term of her life, 'partly of the King and partly of the Earl of Hereford by homage, and the third part of a knight's fee and two pairs of gilt spurs of twelve pence price.' And she also held Cressing Hall or Cressinges, Essex.
• By her first husband, Margery had one daughter, Margery Bacon, born 1337, who married, in 1352, William De Molynes, son of Sir John De Molynes, and she had also a step-daughter Margaret Bacon - daughter of Edmund Bacon, by his first wife Joan De Braose - who married William, 2nd Baron Kerdeston, of Norfolk.
• As her second husband, Margery married Nicholas, Lord De La Beche of Aldworth (Berkshire) in 1339. They had no children and Nicholas died in 1345. To Margery, he left his castle of Beaumys, in Swallowfield, amongst other lands. Margery must have been still quite young and she was still a great heiress. Consequently, she was exposed to the designs of many suitors and, the following year, we find her mentioned as the wife of both Thomas D'Arderne and Gerard De L'Isle. And again, that same year, Lady Margery De La Beche was carried off and forcibly married to Sir John De Dalton. Very possibly the black death, which was raging this year, may have cut off Thomas D'Arderne and Gerard de L'Isle within a few months of each other.
• John De Dalton was son of Robert De Dalton, a large landowner in Lancashire. Accompanied by many lawless friends, amongst whom were Henry De Tildersley, Hugh Fazakerley, Sir Thomas Dutton, Sir Edmund De Mauncestre and William Trussell (the latter had the Manor of Wokefield, Berkshire, so that he was a near neighbour of Beaumys), on Good Friday, 7th April 1347, before dawn, John De Dalton and his companions broke into the Castle of Beaumys and carried off Margery, Lady De La Beche, and many other prisoners. They killed Michael Poynings, uncle to Lady Margery, as also Thomas the Clerk of Shipton, and frightened Roger Hunt, the domestic chaplain, to death. Goods and chattels were also stolen to the value of £1,000. In consequence of this assault, a writ was directed to the Sheriff of Lancashire to arrest John De Dalton and all his accomplices and commit them to the Tower of London. On the same day, John D'Arcy, Keeper of the Tower, was commanded to receive Sir John De Dalton, his companions and Robert, his father. A precept was also issued to the Sheriffs of Berkshire and other counties to seize, into the King's hands, all the lands, goods and chattels of the said Margery. Thomas De Litherland, the Prior of Buscogh, Tildersleigh and Dutton, were tried and convicted at the summer assizes for Wiltshire, holden before William De Thorpe, Chief Justice of England, and others, but were pardoned on 28th November following.
• At the same time, we read, in 1347, of John, 3rd Baron De St. John, upon the death of his mother, 'being so infirm that he could not come to the King to do his homage, had respite thereof and livery of those she held in dower.' He died on 8th April 1349, leaving, by his wife Katherine, daughter of Geoffrey De Say, who succeeded him and who was then twenty years of age. In a roll of 1348, we find an order for the sale of woods "pertaining to Margery who was wife of Nicholas De La Beche, ore la femme Johan, son of Robert De Dalton, by reason of the forfeiture of the said John for treasons and felonies." The said Lady Margery died this same year, 'seised of Swallowfield.'
• From: http://www.britannia.com/bios/ladies/mpoynings.html ______________
• The Paston Family in the Fifteenth Century: Volume 1, The First Phase By Colin Richmond
• https://books.google.com/books?id=okEq7Lj1sloC&pg=PA47&lpg=PA47&dq=...
  • 118 John de Dalton 'raped' and married her: CIPM Edward III,X. p. 77. For this reference and for many more which follow I am indebted to Terry Simmons, 'Paston v. Moleyns: the Case of Gresham', unpublished BA dissertation, Keele University, 1980. For the Moleynses of the fourteenth century, see CP. IX, pp. 36ff.
  • 119 CIPM Edward III, X. pp. 77-8 (the government was obliged to make an example of him: pp. 262-7); CCR 1349-1354, p. 450; H.A. Napier, Historical Notices of the Prishes of Swyncombe and Ewelme (London, 1858), pp. 21-4. This seems to have been an 'inside job': royal officers making a raid on a royal ward. Margery Poynings was Sir Edmund Bacon's second wife and the mother of Margery who married William Moleyns (CIPM Edward III, XI, pp. 11, 13); for the escheator Michael Poynings' marriage to William Moleyns' elder brother John's widow, see CCR 1369-74, pp. 47, 60, 175. .... etc. _________________
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• 'Poynings1'
• Rainald
  • 1. William de Poynings (a 1086)
  • TCP reports "Although there is no evidence to prove that he was the lineal ancestor, he was certainly the predecessor in Sussex of ..."
    • A. Adam de Poynings (d before 1148)
    • m. Beatrice wife of Adam and presumed mother of ...
      • i. Adam de Poynings (d before 12.1202)
        • a. Michael de Poynings (d by 1243)
        • m. (1206) Margaret (widow of John de Cailly)
          • (1) Sir John de Poynings (d before 09.1272)
          • m. (before 1240) Ela Aiguillon (d before 12.1251, dau of Robert Aiguillon)
            • (A) Sir Luke de Poynings
            • m. (before 18.11.1276) Hawise (widow of Reynold de Vautort of Harberton)
            • BE1883 suggests that Luke's wife (and mother of Michael) was Isabel, daughter and co-heir of Robert d'Aguillon. We follow TCP.
              • (i) Sir Michael de Poynings (probably d Bannockburn 24.06.1314)
              • m. (before 08.06.1298) Margery (a 02.1333, possibly a Bardolf)
                • (a) Sir Thomas de Poynings (d 10.10.1339)
                • m. (c1317) Agnes de Rokesley (d before 22.12.1346, dau of Richard de Rokesley of Westwood and Ruxley)
                • BE1883 suggests that Sir Thomas was the 1st Baron. We follow TCP and so henceforth differ in the numberings of the Lords compared with BE1883.
                  • ((1)) Sir Michael de Poynings, 1st Lord (d 07.03.1368/9)
                  • m. (by 1348) Joan Rokesley (d 16.05.1369, dau of Sir Richard Rokesley)
                    • ((A)) Thomas de Poynings, 2nd Lord (bpt 19.04.1349, dsp before 25.06.1375)
                    • m. (before 05.06.1372) Blanche de Mowbray (d 21.07.1409, dau of John de Mowbray, 3rd Lord)
                    • ((B)) Richard de Poynings, 3rd Lord (b c1355, d 25.05.1387) - continued below
                    • m. Isabel Grey (d 11.04.1394, dau of Robert Grey, later FitzPayne)
                    • ((C)) Agnes de Poynings (d 12.06.1403)
                    • m1. Sir John de Moleyns
                    • m2. William Bardolf, 4th Lord (d 1385)
                    • m3. (after 10.04.1386) Sir Thomas Mortimer (d before 09.01.1402/3)
                    • ((D)) Margaret de Poynings
                    • m. William Aton
                    • ((E)) Elizabeth de Poynings
                    • m. John de Grey, younger of Rotherfield (dvp)
                  • ((2)) Sir Luke de Poynings of Basing, 1st Lord 'St. John' (d before 04.07.1376)
                  • m. (before 29.0.1348/9) Isabel St. John (b 29.06.1333, d 16.10.1393, dau of Hugh de St. John of Basing, 2nd Lord)
                    • ((A)) Thomas de Poynings of Basing, 2nd Lord 'St. John' (b by 1373, d 07.03.1428/9)
                    • m1. Joan Strange (dau of Roger, Lord Strange)
                      • ((i)) Hugh de Poynings (dvp 26.12.1426)
                      • m1. Elizabeth Ferrers (dau of Sir Martin Ferrers of Brere Ferrers)
                        • ((a)) Joan de Poynings
                        • m. Thomas Bonville
                      • m2. (before 1408) Eleanor Welles (dau of John Welles, Lord)
                        • ((b)) Constance de Poynings
                        • m1. Sir John Paulet of Nunney
                        • m2. Henry Greene of Drayton
                        • ((c)) Alice de Poynings
                        • m1. John Orrell
                        • m2. Sir Thomas Kingeston
                      • ((ii))+ other issue - Luke, Thomas
                    • m2. (before 24.11.1399) Philippe Mortimer (d 24.09.1401, dau of Edmund Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March)
                    • m3. (after 16.04.1415) Maud (d 14.06.1435, widow of John Halsham of Coombe, possibly dau of ? de Mauley)
                      • ((iii))+ other issue - Thomas, 2 daughters
                    • ((B)) Hugh de Poynings or St. John
                  • ((3))+ other issue - Thomas, John, Richard
                • (b) Michael de Poynings
                • (c) Margery de Poynings (b c1310, d 1349) probably of this generation
                • www.berkshire.history.com contains an article on Margery reporting her marriages as follows ...
                • m1. Sir Edmund Bacon of Ewelme
                • m2. (1339, sp) Nicholas, Lord De La Beche of Aldworth (d 1345)
                • m3. (1346) Thomas D'Arderne (d 1346?)
                • m4. (1347) John de Dalton (son of Robert)
              • (ii) Margery de Poynings
      • ii. John de Poynings
      • iii. William de Poynings
      • iv. Aubreye de Poynings possibly (according to a web site) the Aubrey/Albreda who married ...
      • m. William 'de Caisneto' of Horsford and Colne, Sheriff of Norfolk (d 12.1174)
• .... etc.
• Main source(s): TCP (Poynings - various), BE1883 (Poynings - various)
• From: Stirnet.com
• http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/pp/poynings1.php _______________
• Links
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumys_Castle

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