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Noël Morin

Also Known As: "Noel Charron"
Birthdate: (65)
Birthplace: Saint-Étienne, Brie-Comte-Robert, Brie française, Isle de France, France
Death: January 15, 1680 (61-69)
Saint-Pierre-de-la-Rivière-du-Sud, Québec, Canada
Place of Burial: Québec, Québec, Canada
Immediate Family:

Son of Claude-Joseph Morin and Jeanne Moreau
Husband of Guillaume Morin and Hélène Desportes
Father of Agnès Morin, Que; Rev. Germain Morin; Marie-Louise Morin; Nicolas Morin; Jean-Baptiste Morin and 8 others
Brother of Charles Morin and Helene Morin

Occupation: propriétaire, maître-charron, tonnelier ~ landowner, wheelwright, barrelmaker, Wheelwright, Seigneur de st Luc. Immigrant
Managed by: Gilles Rino Michaud
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About Noël Morin


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Morin, Noël, son of Claude and Jeanne Moreau, married to Hélène Desportes (Pierre and Françoise Langlois) on January 9, 1640, in Quebec City. Originally from St-Étienne-de-Brie-Comte-Robert, Brie. One of his son was named Alphonse Morin dit Valcour or Valcourt. Numerous descendants took the VALCOUR or VALCOURT instead of Morin. His descendants are found mainly in the counties of Montmagny-L'Islet, Lévis and Beauce.

Arrived in New France in 1618.

Cartwright by profession

Noel arrived in New France (Canada) in 1620.

L E patronym Morin or Maurin can mean "brown skin likemaure ". Noël Morin, known as Saint-Luc, oldest, most knownof Morin which took root in News-France and also the fatherof largest of all the stocks existing in America.

Noël Morin was born in 1616, of the marriage of ClaudeMorin and Jeanne Moreau,

Cartwright by trade, he was recruited in 1636 by RobertGiffard, but it is only officially Tuesday December 27,1639, in an authenticated contract, that his name appears,promising to marry on January 9, 1640, Helene Desportes,daughter of Pierre Desportes and Francoise Langlois,

In 1663, Noël Morin became lord of a portion of theseigniory of the River-of-South, with the said place,Point-with-the-Curdles. The ground takes the name ofSaint-Luc and Noël Morin is designated thereafter under thename of sior of Saint-Luc.

The Association of Morin of America is the first, withinthe Federation of the stocks families , to make known itsblazon after him to have made essential modifications. Two of the cantons of the ecu decorate ears with 16 grains,symbolizing the eight Morin ancestors and their joint.


Noël est né en 1616 à Brie-Comte-Robert, Île-de-France, Fr,a été baptisé en 1616 à Brie-Comte-Robert, Île-de-France,Fr, est décédé le 10 Fév. 1680 à Saint-François, Montmagny,Québec, Ca à l'âge de 64 ans, et fut inhumé le 15 Fév. 1680à Québec, Ca."

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Possibly date of marriage contract ?? 27 Dec 1639

Couple Helene and Christmas, twelve children are born including two girls who concern us.

The second girl of Helene Desportes and Christmas, Louise Morin, born in 1643, wife in 1659, Charles Cloutier, bornin 1629 and wire of the ancestor Zacharie Nailsmith and Xaintes Dupont.

Noël Morin

The patronym Morin or Maurin can mean "brown skin like Maure". For a long time, a Morini family, of Italian origin, had made stock in area where Noël Morin was born. Perhaps Morin go down from Morini.

During French Mode, at least sixteen immigrants bearing surname Morin appear in our Canadian registers: initially a priest, a baker, a colonist, three soldiers and an inhabitant of Saint Malo who dies at Hospital of Quebec on September 4, 1727.

In area of Montmagny, Brother Éloi-Gerard Talbot, Marist, untiring researcher, found descendants of five different Morin stocks: Pierre Morin-Butcher, the Acadianone, my ancestor; Noël Morin, cartwright, in question; Robert Morin, verger of Holy-Anne-of it Pocatière, unknown origin, husband of Francoise Migier-Lagacé; poitevin Andre Morin, husband of Marguerite Moreau, married onAugust 26, 1670 in Quebec; finally Jacques Morin, of Saint-Etienne de Bréloy, husband of Hilaire Guery.

Also made stock Angevin Jacques Morin, Poitevin Charles, Breton Pierre who married Marie-madeleine Lépinay on February 22, 1694 with Beauport, Moïse Morin-Chenevert, father of family and soldier etc. Here Noël Morin, first of this name to have married with country and made stock.


Noël Morin was born about 1609, in Brie, area of Paris basin. Town of Brie-Count-Robert, today district of Melun, department of Seine-et-Marne, claims honor to have had among its sons Canadian ancestor Morin. Christmas accepted baptism with church devoted to Saint-Etienne and built partly in XIIIème century. Time of Christmas like today, Brie had a bishop with episcopalsee in Meaux.

We know about life of son of Claude Morin, in France. Boy learned how to write his name, to count and manufacture wheels and cars. No means of knowing whether he practised its trade with his/her father? When Noël Morin came to News-France, his mother Jeanne Moreau had died.


Nobody knows when or how Noël Morin arrived in Quebec. His first official appearance in history is through notary Martial Piraude, Tuesday on December 27,1639. All large bonnets of capital had been given to celebrate signature of marriage contract of Christmas, of Jean Bourdon in Jean Joliet while passing through Robert Giffard, Guillaume and Louis Couillard, the abbot Jean Lesueur, without forgetting great ladies. Why such a solemnity? Future wife was no other than Helene Desportes, girl of Pierre and Francoise Langlois, niece of Abraham Martin. Helene, first white child born in New France, had been baptized in Quebec on July 7,1620, according to Rene Jetté. Passed to France with her parents in 1629, she returned to Canada in 1634. Guillaume Hébert, wire of Louis and Marie Rollet, husband of Helene Desportes since October 1, 1634, had died in Quebec on September 23, 1639, leaving to his wife three children including two survivors: Joseph and Francoise.

Noël Morin gave to his wife a douaire of 200 pounds guaranteed by "a house located at Brie-Count-Robert where hangs for ensign blue horse, parish of St-Etienne, in street of the Fountains, near door to the city, that known as engaged couple had succession of his/hermother". Christmas was thus not a tramp. On her side, Helene brought to family community in formation the pleasure of a house located close to church Our-Lady, of 2 arpents ground close to Mount-Carmel and a garden of 40 poles contiguous to known house.

Monday January 9, 1640, Jesuit Nicolas Adam blesses this union in front of witnesses Nicolas Pivert and Robert Giffard, surgeon and lord in News-France. 40 poles in surface, which were in north of store of Hundred-Partners in upper town, were conceded officially to couple Morin, September 4, 1640. Helene continued to be mother and wife in her house of 24 feet out of 18. Christmas remained there also, it seems, until 1645, while exerting his trade of cartwright.

Sainte-Geneviève coast

Noël Morin, January 21, 1641, seems cartwright of the dwelling. Did Morin cartwright want more freedom and space? Did he miss wheels to be repaired? April 26, 1645, Montmagny governor conceded to him 50 arpents of ground at Sainte-Geneviève coast for price of 90 books. It is there that it will transport its home. In 20 years time, he will there build "three main buildings, of which two had a firing chamber each one, cellar and attic, third being used as shop and attic above, with a barn and two arpents and half-closed piles and being used ascourt". It seems well that removal with Sainte-Geneviève slope was carried out before September 9, 1648, day when Jean Guyon and Michel Leneuf went to examine first Morin house and his site located on then ose of Cape-with-Diamonds. The Factory of Quebec will buy the whole, while paying sum of 800 books.

At the same time, Morin requires of engagor Noël Bélanger to find a man to him, in France. June 4, 1649, with Small rock, Pierre Paillereau, ploughman ofVilledoux, canton of Marans, began for account of Noël Morin, inhabitant of Quebec. February 6, 1650, Antoine Rouillard and Thomas Touchet promised to build on ground of Noël Morin the frame of a house "which will have thirty feet length and twenty feet of broad... six feetsoub poultre". Christmas will spend 250 pounds for the execution of this work, in addition to 20 pea minots tobe given the two carpenters.

The children, Helene and Christmas had fixed their residence at Sainte-Geneviève coast for a long time.

Lord of Saint-Luc

The head of Morin family was a man of responsibilities and judgement. In 1652, Marie d' Abancourt, widow of Jean Joliet, called upon her services to evaluate tools of cartwright left at Jean Bourdon.

Jean de Lauzon, governor of News-France, conceded in Noël Morin, November 15, 1653, a quarter of mile of ground offace on one mile of depth to begin with one arpent below river Ruail and going up St. Lawrence on southern side. The Island-with-Geese was included in this concession. The Morin lord became thus owner of a portion of seigniory of River-of-South, included/understood today in town of Montmagny.

This acquisition by way of stronghold comprised rights and duties. The member elect was to pay faith and homage to the Company of the Indies Occidentales. Christmas called his Saint-Luc field. Itself will carry from now on title of sior of Saint-Luc. Why this evangelist rather than another? I am unaware of it. Did lord and seigneuress intend to leave Quebec, city where their growing children could be educated cheaply? Certainly not. This good fallen from the Sky will be divided later between wire, relationship, son-in-law Guillaume Fournier, as we will see further.

Fifteen years of progress

Years covering period of 1653 to 1668 were remembered with corner of progress, expansion, and for children and Morin parents.

Christmas and Helene, May 17, 1655, obtained concessionof a bench of Factory of Quebec, side of north, in the nave, close to that of Charles Sevestre. In return, Factory accepted two arpents of ground which Morin had, today ground of Citadel of Quebec. As of next 4 July, one specified market rates. Two arpents were worth 180 books. As this sum, 100 pounds will serve to defray pension of the Germain son, raises with Seminar.

Louis Sédilot and Noël Morin, June 5, 1658, committed themselves building each one half of a beautiful fence of line between their property of Saint-Geneviève. However, Sédilot delayed execution of its promise more than 4 years.

Guillaume Fournier had married Francoise Hébert, daughter-in-law of Noël Morin, November 20, 1651. September12, 1663, Guillaume was made give a receipt for 1000 pounds tournaments, which he had provided to Morin in 10 years space, and that without damage of the inheritancees tax death had by his wife.

At same time, via his/her father, Nicolas Morin had obtained a concession of Jesuits with Sillery. This one will décédera a few years later. Then, August 3, 1664, lord of Saint-Luc attended election of syndic Claude Charron.

The arms of ancestor fell from tiredness. May 23, 1666, it conceded 30 arpents of ground in Jean Pannier, for price and summons of 60 books. Purchaser probably returned to France. Jean Poitras on August 2 of same summer, bought other half. In census 1666, Marie-Charlotte Poitiers, widow of Joseph Hébert, killed by Iroquois in 1661, live under roof of her mother-in-law Helene Desportes. Jean Ballié gains his bread ascommitted servant of Christmas. The following year, Jean still worked for account of Morin. Moreover, ZacharieJolliet, 17 years, learned its trade from cartwright withits Master Noël Morin. Farm then has 40 arpents in culture and 12 heads of cattle. Since June 20, 1667, one drew up a report about way which goes to Sainte-Geneviève. It was time to improve it.

Situation of last years

In 1668, dice were thrown. Dwelling of Michaelmas road, obtained fathers Jesuits on February 24,1663 in seigniory of Sillery, 2 arpents of face on 25, initially allotted to Nicolas, passed definitively to his brother Jean-baptiste, sior of Rochebelle. Farm was worth 450 pounds. Nicolas had a debt of 75 pounds.Jean-baptiste accepted this ground for 375 pounds, value of heritage. The same day, February 25, 1668, Noël Morin appoints Rochebelle his prosecutor or administrator.

Noël Morin, en 1664, avait été élu tuteur de Charles-AmadorMartin, fils d'Abraham. Le 16 avril 1669, il signe unequittance aux Ursulines de Québec pour une somme de 240 livres, portion d'héritage en faveur de son protégé, quisera ordonné prêtre le 14 mars 1671.

C'est le 4 mai 1670 seulement que nous apprenons que lapartie de terre vendue à Pannier fut rachetée pour la sommede 90 livres par Charles Aubert, sieur de La Chesnay.

Au début de 1671, le 4 janvier, Hélène et Noël précisentleurs intentions: tous leurs biens meubles et immeubles aujour de leur décès seront partagés entre leurs fils Charleset Alphonse, à condition qu'ils les entretiennent dèsmaintenant et jusqu'à leur mort. De plus, les filsdonneront à leur sœur Marie-Madeleine 300 livres,lorsqu'elle se mariera. Puis, le 12 novembre suivant, lesieur de Saint-Luc rend foi et hommage à Louis Couillard,sieur de L'Espinay.

Le maître charron, 64 ans, ne se résigne pas facilement àchômer. Le 15 juin 1673, il accepte de "faire et parfaire"24 montures de canon et d'en fournir le bois nécessaire. Jeconnais, dit-il, ces canons de la haute et basse ville.Charles Legardeur, premier conseiller du roi et commandantdu Château Saint-Louis, promet de rémunérer ce travail deconfiance en donnant à l'ancêtre Morin 40 livres lamonture, c'est-à-dire 960 livres.

Noël Morin et Louis Bossé, le 30 octobre 1674, s'entendentà l'amiable. Boss, avait obtenu une habitation à Montmagny.Sans nous expliquer les causes exactes de ce litige, Bossremet sa terre à son seigneur Morin et exige même unecompensation de 60 livres. L'on sait qu'entre 1672 et 1676,le fief de Saint-Luc fut morcelé au profit de GuillaumeFournier, Jean Proulx, Alphonse Morin, Pierre Jolliet, JeanBallié, Michel Isabel, David Corbin, Charles Bazire et JeanRollandeau.

Les choses en étaient ainsi lorsque la généreuse etbrillante Hélène Desportes, épouse fidèle, mère dépareilléeet sage-femme appréciée, s'éteignit au coteauSainte-Geneviève, à la Saint-Jean 1675. Hélas! son acte desépulture n'est pas inscrit dans le registre de Québec.Mais son nom y paraît plus de 20 fois comme marraine.

La Morinerie

La troisième génération Morin atteignit le nombre de 56 sujets. Tous les enfants de Noël et Hélène naquirent àQuébec, où ils furent baptisés entre 1641 et 1656. Ce sontAgnès, Germain, Louise, Nicolas, Jean-Baptiste, Marguerite,Hélène, Marie, Alphonse, Noël, Charles et Marie-Madeleine.Marguerite décéda au berceau. Hélène et 2 garçons moururentdurant leur adolescence. Nicolas, lui, avait 23 anslorsqu'il dut démissionner devant la vie.

Nicolas Gaudry et Ignace Bonhomme, Charles Cloutier,Charles Rageot, notaire, devinrent les maris d'Agnès, deLouise et de Marie-Madeleine, Jean-Baptiste épousaCatherine Belleau; Alphonse, Marie-Madeleine Normand etAngélique Destroismaisons. Ce dernier mourut à Montmagny etfut le seul avec ses 15 enfants à propager le patronymeMorin et Valcourt, une fraction de la grande morineriecanadienne d'aujourd'hui. Quant à Jean-Baptiste, il fitmême parti du Conseil Souverain de la Nouvelle-France.

Les deux gloires de cette famille fondatrice Morin sontGermain et Marie. Germain, baptisé le 15 janvier 1642,fréquenta le Petit Séminaire de Québec et reçut le premierl'onction sacerdotale comme enfant du pays, le 29 septembre1665. D'abord secrétaire de Mgr de Laval, il desservitcomme missionnaire et curé plusieurs paroisses dontChâteau-Richer et Sainte-Anne-de-Beaupré. Il s'éteignit àl'Hôtel-Dieu de Québec, le 20 août 1702.

Marie Morin, filleule de Louis d'Ailleboust, sieur deCoulonges, à l'âge de 13 ans et à la demande de l'évêque deQuébec, entra chez les Hospitalières venues de la Flèche àVille-Marie. Elle fut la première canadienne à prendre lesaint habit à Montréal en 1663. Plus tard, Sœur Morindevint supérieure de son couvent. A l'intention des sœursHospitalières de Saint-Joseph de France, elle rédigea lesAnnales de l'Hôtel-Dieu de Montréal, trésor précieux pourcomprendre l'histoire. Cette femme héroïque entra dans lagloire le 8 avril 1730.

Si les enfants Morin ont pu faire leur marque dans lasociété d'alors, c'est parce qu'ils avaient étudié chez lesUrsulines ou chez les Jésuites.

Le 30 octobre 1675, après la mort d'Hélène Desportes, lefils Jean-Baptiste s'engagea à soutenir son vieux père àcondition que celui-ci lui verse la somme de 1500 livres etla moitié des revenus du fief de Saint-Luc. Le joursuivant, tous les membres de la famille consentirent àvendre à Charles Bazire la totalité de la propriété deSainte-Geneviève pour la somme de 3000 livres.

Noël Morin, probablement en visite chez son fils Alphonse,mourut à Saint-Pierre-du-Sud le 10 février 1680, en pleinhiver. Le corps du défunt fut mis en terre ou dans un petitcharnier, à Saint-Thomas. On célébra les funérailles 5jours plus tard, à Québec. Alphonse et Jean-Baptiste,Gilles Rageot signèrent le registre de Notre-Dame.

Nos ancêtres furent les architectes de la construction denotre peuple. Nous en sommes les maçons. Suivons les plans.

Ces renseignements sont tirés de la "CollectionGénéalogique" de Saint-Anne-de-Beaupré.

François Grimard, Chicoutimi, QC

Occupation: Charron Born: 1609 about Parish/City: St-Étienne, Paris Country: France Bapt./Source Naissance : vers 1609 st-etienne, v. brie-comte-robert, archev. paris, brie (ar. melun, seine-et-marne) PRDH Death: 10 February 1680 - Age: 71 Parish/City: Québec Country: Canada Burial / Source Décès : 1680-02-10 Sépulture : 1680-02-15 Québec PRDH Information, Other Kids, Notes etc. Concession du fief Morin le 15/11/1653 reconcede en arriere-fief de St-Luc dans la Riviere-du-Sud le 15/11/1663, reuni au domaine apres le 15/10/1683

(CT 27-12-1639 Piraube) avec Helene Desportes

Père : CLAUDE MORIN Mère : JEANNE MOREAU PRDH Concession du fief Morin le 15/11/1653 reconcede en arriere-fief de St-Luc dans la Riviere-du-Sud le 15/11/1663, reuni au domaine apres le 15/10/1683

(CT 27-12-1639 Piraube) avec Helene Desportes Morin & Lareau Family History Dedicated to my cousin Sharon DellaVecchia and her father, "Uncle Billy", for sharing their precious Morin family memories and photographs.

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WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 5, 2007 Noel Morin & Helen Desportes

During the French Regime, at least 16 immigrants bearing the Morin surname appeared in Canadian registries: the first of them was a priest, then a baker, a colonist, three soldiers and a resident of Saint-Malo who died at the Hotel-Dieu of Quebec on 4 September 1727.

In the region of Montmagny, Eloi-Gerard Talbot (a Marist and tireless researcher), discovered descendants from five different Morin families: Pierre Morin dit Boucher, the Acadian; Robert Morin, sacristan of Sainte-Anne-de-la Pocatiere, of unknown origin, husband of Francoise Mignier dit Lagace; Andre Morin, the Poitevin, husband of Marguerite Moreau; Jacques Morin, from Saint-Etienne-de-Brelay, husband of Hilaire Guery; and Noel Morin, a cartwright. Other founders were the families of Angevin Jacques Morin, Poitevin Charles, the Breton Pierre and Moise Morin dit Chesevert.


Noel Morin was born about 1616 in Brie, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France, a region of the Paris Basin. Today, the town is the arrondissement of Melun and department of Seine-et-Marne. Noel was baptized at Saint-Etienne which was built in part in the 13th century. During Noel's time, la Brie had a bishop whose episcopal seat was at Meaux.

We know almost nothing about the life in France of the son of Claude Morin and Jeanne Moreau. The boy learned to write his name, to count and to make wheels and carriages. Did he practice his trade with his father? There is no way to find out. Noel's mother died before he came to New France.


Noel immigrated from La Brie to Canada about 1637. He made his first official appearance in its national history on Tuesday, 27 December 1639 at the home of notary Martial Piraude (secretary of the governor Hault de Montmagny and clerk with the clerk's office and tabellionnage of Quebec) where he signed a marriage contract with Helene Desportes, daughter of Pierre Desportes and Francois Langlois, niece of Abraham Martin.

All the important people of the capital gathered to celebrate the signing of Noel's marriage contract: from Jean Bourdon to Jean Jolliet, including Robert Giffard, Guillaume and Louis Couillard, Father Jean Lesueur and, of course, their great ladies!

Why such a formal ceremony? According to Rene Jette, the bride was none other than the first white child born alive in the Saint Lawrence region, baptized at Notre Dame des Roucources, Quebec on 16 July 1620. Her godmother was Helene Boulle, the wife of Samuel de Champlain who named Helene as a beneficiary in his will of 1635.

Helene followed her parents back to France in 1629 and returned to Canada in 1634. At 14 years of age, she had married Guillaume Hebert, son of the first colonist Louis and his wife Marie Rollet. Widowed in September 1639, her uncle Guillaume Couillard undertook the guardianship of her three children, two who survived: son Joseph and daughter Francois. Three months later she chose to become the wife of Noel Morin.

On Monday, 9 January 1640, the Jesuit Nicolas Adam blessed this union in the presence of witnesses Nicolas Pivert and Robert Giffard, surgeon and seigneur in New France. Noel Morin gave his bride for "good friendship" a dowry of 200 livres guaranteed by:

"a house at Brie-Comte-Robert where hangs a sign with the blue horse in the parish of St-Etienne on rue des fontaines near the gate of the town which the said groom received from the succession of his mother."

Therefore, Noel was not a vagabond. On her part, Helene brought to the newly-formed marriage the ownership of a house located near the church of Notre Dame, with "2 arpents of land near Mont-Carmel and a garden measuring 40 perches belonging to the said house."

The 40 perches in area, which were found north of the storehouse of the One Hundred Associates, in the Upper Town, were officially ceded to the Morin couple on 4 September 1640.

Helene continued to be the wife and mother in her house which measured 24 by 18 feet. Noel also lived there until 1645 while practicing his trade of cartwright.

SAINTE GENEVIEVE COAST On 26 April 1645, Governor Montmagny gave Noel Morin 50 arpents of land on the Sainte Genevieve coast for 90 livres. He moved his household there and, in a period of 20 years, he built "three frame dwellings, two of which had a heated room each, cellar and attic, the third serving as a shop and attic above, with a barn and two-and-a-half arpents enclosed with stakes and serving as a yard."

It seems very likely that the move to the Sainte Genevieve coast was carried out before 9 September 1648, the day on which Jean Guyon and Michel Leneuf were to examine the first Morin house and its lot located on the tip of Cap-aux-Diamants. Later, the Fabrique de Quebec would purchase it all for 800 livres.

At the same time, Morin requested the recruiter Noel Belanger to find him a hired man in France. On 4 Jun 1649, at La Rochelle, Pierre Paillereau, a laborer from Villedoux, canton of Marans, was hired to work for Noel Morin. On 6 February 1650, Antoine Rouillard and Thomas Touchet promised to build on Noel Morin's land the framework of a house "which will be thirty feet long and twenty feet wide ... six feet under beams." Noel paid 250 livres for this work, in addition to 20 minots of peas to be given to the two carpenters.

Thus, we see that Helene, Noel and their children established their residence on the Sainte Genevieve coast for a long time to come.


The head of the Morin family was a man of responsibility and judgment. For example, in 1652 Marie d'Abancourt, widow of Jean Jolliet, called on his services to appraise the cartwright tools left at the home of Jean Bourdon.

On 15 November 1653, Jean de Lauzon, Governor of New France, ceded to Noel Morin a quarter-league of frontal property by a league deep, beginning an arpent below the La Caille River and going up the Saint Lawrence towards the south side. The Ile-aux-Oies were included in this concession. Thus, Seigneur Morin became the owner of a portion of the seigneury of la Riviere-du-Sud, today part of the town of Montmagny.

This acquisition as a fief entailed rights and duties. The new recipient must render faith and homage to the West Indies Company. Noel named his domain Saint Luc, and thereafter bore the title of Sieur de Saint Luc. Why this evangelist rather than another one? Nobody knows. Did the seigneur and seigneuresse intend to leave Quebec, the town where their growing children could be educated? It seems unlikely. This property which fell from the sky would later be divided among their sons, relatives and son-in-law Guillaume Fornier.


The years covering the period from 1653 to 1668 were marked by progress and expansion for both the children and the parents of this family.

On 17 May 1655, Noel and Helene were granted a pew by the Fabrique of Quebec. It was located on the north side, in the nave, near that of Charles Sevestre. In return, the Fabrique received 2 arpents of land which the Morins owned, today the land on which stands the citadel of Quebec. On the following 4th of July, the terms of the transaction were drawn up. The two arpents were appraised at 180 livres. Of this amount, 100 livres were used to pay the tuition of son Germain, a student at the Seminary.

On 5 June 1658, Louis Selillot and Noel Morin agreed to each build their half of a boundary fence between their property at Saint Genevieve. However, Sedillot delayed carrying out his promise for more than four years.

Guillaume Fornier married Francois Hebert, stepdaughter of Noel Morin, on 20 November 1651. On 12 September 1663, Guillaume was given a receipt for the 1,000 livres tournois that he had provided to the Morins over a 10-year period, and without prejudicing the rights of succession owned by his wife.

During the same era, through the intervention of his father, Nicolas Morin obtained a concession from the Jesuits at Sillery. Nicholas died a few years later at age 23. Then, on 3 August 1664, the Seigneur de Saint-Luc took part in the election of the mayor Claude Charron.

On 23 May 1666, Noel Morin ceded 30 arpents of land to Jean Pannier for the price of 60 livres. The buyer probably returned to France. On 2 August of the same summer, Jean Poitras bought the other half. In the census of 1666, Marie Charlotte Poitiers (widow of Helene's son Joseph Hebert who was killed by the Iroquois in 1661) lived under the roof of her mother-in-law.

Jean Ballie earned his bread as Noel's hired hand. The following year, Jean was still working for Morin. In addition, Zacharie Jolliet, 17 years old, learned the trade of cartwright from his master, Noel Morin. At that time, the farm had 40 arpents under cultivation and 12 head of cattle. On 20 June 1667, an official report concerning the road which went to Sainte Genevieve was drawn up. It was time to improve it.


In 1668, the die was cast. The homestead on the Saint Michel route, obtained from the Jesuit Fathers on 24 February 1663 in the seigneury of Sillery, 2 arpents of frontage by 25, first assigned to his son Nicholas, passed to his brother Jean-Baptiste Sieur de Rochebelle. The farm was worth 450 livres. Nicholas had died leaving a debt of 75 livres. Jean-Baptiste accepted this land for 475 livres, the value of the inheritance. On the same day, 25 February 1668, Noel Morin named Jean-Baptiste his administrator.

In 1664, Noel Morin had been chosen guardian of Charles Amador Martin, son of Abraham. On 16 April 1669, he gave a signed receipt to the Ursulines of Quebec for 240 livres, a portion of the inheritance in favor of his protege, who would be ordained a priest on 14 March 1671.

On 4 May 1670, the part of the land sold to Pannier was resold for 90 livres by Charles Aubert, Sieur de LaChesnaye.

On 4 January 1671, Helene and Noel indicated their intentions: On the day of their death all their furniture and real estate would be divided between their sons Charles and Alphonse on the condition that they support their parents. Furthermore, the sons would give their young sister, Marie Madeleine, 300 livres when she married. Then on the following 12 November, the Sieur de Saint Luc rendered faith and homage to Louis Couillard, Sier de L'Espinay.

The master cartwright, 64 years old, did not easily resign himself to idleness. On 15 June 1673, he agreed to "make and perfect" 24 canon mountings and to furnish the necessary wood. "I am familiar," he said, "with these cannons in the Upper and Lower Town." Charles Legardeur, first counsellor to the king and commandant of Chateau Saint Louis, promised to pay for this special work by giving Morin 40 livres per mounting ... in other words 960 livres. On 30 October 1674, Noel Morin and Louis Bosse agreed to settle a suit amicably. Bosse had obtained a homestead at Montmagny. Without knowing the exact cause of the litigation, Bosse gave his land to his Seigneur Morin and even required compensation of 60 livres. We know that between 1672 and 1676, the Fief of Saint-Luc was divided to the benefit of Guillaume Fournier, Jean Proulx, Alphonse Morin, Pierre Jolliet, Jean Baillie, Michel Isabel, David Corbin, Charles Bazire and Jean Rollandeau.

This is the way things were when Helene Desportes died on the Sainte Genevieve coast on Saint Jean's Day, 24 June 1675. Her burial act was not recorded in the registry, but her name appears there more than 20 times as godmother! Posted by Judi Heit at 8:21 PM 8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Bonjour à vous,

I just finished reading your blog "Noël Morin & Helen Desportes". (My grand-mother was a Morin, which explain the fact that I came upon your site.)

Super and interesting stories ! :-)

The mention of "Sainte Genevieve Coast" caugth my attention and I immediatly suspected an error in the translation. You see, I live myself on what is still known as the "Coteau Sainte-Geneviève". The word "Côteau" means slope or little hill. The Côteau Sainte-Geneviève is a gentle downhill slope which stop at the edge of the Cap-Diamant. It is now part of the faubourg St-Jean-Baptiste, Québec City.

Best regards,

Réal St-Pierre Québec June 28, 2008 at 2:41 PM

4Thomas said...

Réal St-Pierre Québec Interesting... Do you by any chance know the street address for the Seigneur Charles Aubert de la Chesnaye house which was built on Sainte Genevieve Coast? I understand that it still exists. Please post you comment here. Merci beaucoup. 4Thomas July 23, 2008 at 12:00 PM

Fred said...

I was drawn to your blog on Noel Morin and Helen Desportes by a reference to Thomas Touchet having framed a house for them. Thomas was my first Touchet ancestor to emigrate to the new world. I'm guessing that this reference resulted from the viewing of some form of contract or agreement from the time and am wondering if you can tell me how I might obtain a photocopy, if this is true. I am just beginning to work on my own family history, and this would be a wonderful visual representation of his life. You can email me at If you need an address or fax number, I can supply it via email.


Fred Geiger June 26, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Anonymous said...

I was delighted to come across the blog on Noel Morin and Helene Desportes as Noel is my eleventh great grandfather. I was wondering if you knew anything about Noel's parents? March 1, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Anonymous said...

Message is for anonymous said: re the morin family. Noel's parents were claude morin & Jeanne Moreau I am a decendant of the morins as well. I have lots of info on the morins. You can email me at April 8, 2011 at 3:44 PM

canadaed said...

I am a decendant of Noel Morin and only knew of him by name. Reading the story in your blog was very interesting.

I am a Valcourt living in western Canada. My great Grandfather left Quebec with his family by ox and cart, to start a new life as a farmer.

Thank you for sharing this history.

Winnipeg, Manitoba April 22, 2011 at 2:40 PM

Anonymous said...

OMG im only 14 and im a morin and its exciting about noel but our family also has some bad history and romeo morin is my great grandpa does anyone know him? January 12, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Anonymous said...

Hello from the United States!

I've just completed reading your blog regarding Noël Morin & Helen Desportes as I too am a descendant through Alphonse (by his first marriage). I appreciate very much reading these great bits of information and trivia about my ancestry. Thank you! :)

However throughout my investigation into this portion of my ancestry, I have noticed that others (using resources such an have been tripped up by a bit of information that have lead them down the wrong path....much as I was. I wanted to take this opportunity to clarify:

You mention that Noël Morin was born in Brie, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France. While the town of Brie is correct, it is not located in Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France. Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne (or 'Upper Brittany') is roughly 370 km/450 mi from Brie. Therefore, anyone searching databases for Bretagne (or Upper Brittany) are reviewing records for the wrong people. You correctly state that the town is the arrondissement of Seine-et-Marne. The correct location for his birthplace should be Brie, Seine-et-Marne, Île-de-France, France.

I hope this helps everyone on their quest to find out about their ancestors.


Melissa Beaudoin Charlotte, NC USA

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A friend once asked why I study my family's history. The simple truth is that I love my family very much and will miss those who have passed away until it's my time to join them. To honor their memory in this way ... keeping it alive for those who come after me ... is such a small tribute to the happy years we shared together. My (only) regret is that I did not get "hooked" on genealogy in time to ask my grandparents all the questions I am chasing now.

On the other hand, it's like a good book, isn't it? You turn each page slowly and savor every chapter because you don't want the story to end!!! ~Judi (Grala) Heit

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Noël Morin's Timeline

Brie-Comte-Robert, Brie française, Isle de France, France
January 21, 1641
Age 26
Québec, Quebec, Canada
January 14, 1642
Age 27
Québec, Québec, Canada
April 27, 1643
Age 28
Québec, Québec, Canada
April 25, 1644
Age 29
Québec, Quebec, Canada
May 22, 1645
Age 30
Québec, Québec, Canada
September 29, 1646
Age 31
Quebec, Quebec, Canada
September 30, 1647
Age 32
Quebec, Quebec, Canada