Oliver de Dinham, lord of Hertland

Sir Oliver de Dinham, Knight

• Born: 1234, Hartland, Bideford, Devonshire, England 141
• Died: 26 Feb 1299, Nutwell Manor, Woodbury, Devonshire, England at age 65 141,1283
• Buried: Church of Black Friars, Exeter, Devonshire, England 141
• Marriage (1): unknown
• Marriage (2): Isabel de Vere - before 24 January 1276/7 (royal lic. 18 or 19 May 1280 for a fine of £100),

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Primary Sources

Inquisitions Post Mortem for Oliver Dynham, Writ, 2 March, 27 Edw. I [1299].
His death date is not recorded. He died before 2 March 1299 (date of writ). Joyce his son, aged 24 and more, was his next heir.

Biography

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dinham-13

Knight, of Hartland, Ilsington, etc., Devon, Corton Dinham and Sandford Orcas, Somerset, Constable of Exeter and Taunton Castles, Keeper of Lundy Isle, son and heir of Geoffrey de Dynham, Knt., of Hartland, Devon. He was born about 1234 (aged 24 in 1258). They had two sons, Josce, Knt., and Geoffrey. Oliver was pardoned for non-observance of the Provisions of Oxford 28 March 1264. In 1265 he supported the King’s cause in the West against the adherents of Simon de Montfort. The same year he presented to the church of Corton Dinham, Somerset. He took possession of Hartland Abbey during a voidance about 1272, when the Bishop of Exeter was absent abroad, and extorted large sums of money from the canons. He bought the manors of Nutwell and Harpwell, Devon from Marmoutier Abbey in 1272/3. He was in the army of Wales in 1277 and 1282. He presented to the church of Waddesdon, Buckinghamshire 13 March 1277. He was summoned to attend the king at Shrewsbury 28 June 1283. In 1286 he was granted a fair at Hartland, Devon. His wife, Isabel, died testate 11 August, year uncertain, sometime before 7 Jan. 1290/1. He was summoned to Parliament from 24 June 1295 to 26 August 1296, by writs directed Olivero de Dynham or Dynaunt, whereby he is held to have become Lord Dinham. SIR OLIVER DE DINHAM, Lord Dinham, died 26 Feb. 1298/9. At the time of his death, he held four manors in Devon, three in Cornwall, and one in Somerset. He and his wife, Isabel, were buried in the Church of the Black Friars, Exeter, Devon.

Comments

Wives of Oliver Dinham

If Joanna, wife of Roger Carminow, was indeed the daughter of Oliver Dinham (see discussion on her profile), then Oliver had a first wife in the 1260s, as we would expect for an adult lord of a manor.

< soc.genealogy.medieval > C.P. Addition: Parentage of Josce de Dynham. Nov 18, 2004

In summary, I find no evidence that Sir Oliver de Dynham had an earlier marriage than his documented marriage to Isabel de Vere. I find that Sir Oliver de Dynham's grandson, John Dynham, was styled kinsman by Isabel de Vere's grandson, Hugh de Courtenay. I conclude therefore that Sir Oliver de Dynham's son, Josce, was the child of Isabel de Vere. Had another relationship existed between these parties existed, then Sir Oliver de Dynham and Isabel de Vere would themselves likely have had to obtain a dispensation for marriage, they being related through affinity, rather than kindred.

References

• http://cybergata.com/roots/21598.htm Cites
  • 141. Cokayne's Complete Peerage, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, pp. 369-371
  • 1283. The History and Antiquities of Somersetshire, Vol. I, Parts 3-6, p. 338 < GoogleBooks > “… Geoffrey Dinant his son inherited the manors of Corton and Buckland, and had a summons with other persons of consequence, 41 Henry III. 1257, to repair to the King at Bristol well accoutered with horse and arms, in order to march against the Welsh. He died 43 Henry III. 1259, leaving issue two sons, Oliver and Geoffrey. Oliver, upon his doing homage 48 Henry III. 1264, had livery of his lands, and married Isabel, widow of John de Courtenay, without license, for which he paid a fine of 1001. to the King. In 14 Edward I. 1286, he procured a charter of free warren in all his demesne lands in the counties of Somerset, Devon, and Cornwall, and was summoned to parliament as a Baron from 1295 to 1299. He died the following year, and was succeeded by his son Josce Dinant, second Baron, who married Margaret, daughter and heiress of Sir Richard Hydon, and by her had two sons, John and Oliver. …”
• Whetter James. Cornwall in the 13th Century : A Study in Social and Economic History. Lyfrow Trelyspen 1998. Page 151. Oliver de Dinham held the lands of Roger de Carminow senior and the wardship of his heir in 1277. Joan, wife of Roger junior, was a Dinham.

1. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dinham-13 cites
   1. Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson Vol. II. page 320
   2. Magna Carta Ancestry 2011 2nd ed. Vol. I p. 535-536
   3. Ancestral Roots 8th ed. Line 214-30
   4. CCHR, 1257-1300, p. 253
   5. The Complete Peerage, IV:369-71, transcribed at the Celtic Casimir family tree.
   6. Magna Britannia, Vol. 3: Cornwall.
   7. Discussion in soc.genealogy.medieval forum, 2002, continued here
   8. per a 2004 post at the gen.medieval archive, citing Monasticon Anglicanum V:379, Num. 1: Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia
   9. Discussion by Douglas Richardson at the gen-medieval archive.
   10. per a 2004 post at the gen.medieval archive, citing Monasticon Anglicanum V:379, Num. 1: Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia
   11. Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd edition, p. 536.