Raso VI Sr. van Gavere , Chièvres Liedekerke

18.
RAZO VI. 1217 (St. Bavon, no. 120, p. 97) -1241 (n.s.), March (Ibidem, no. 226, p. 222).
Lord of Gavere (Les Bouteillers, Pr., no. XXI, pp. 23-24 (1219) }, Chievres (Ibidem, no. xxv, p. 27, no. XXVIII, pp. 29-30) and Liedekerke (Cartul. Ninove, CCF. II, no. CLXIX, pp. 872-873).
nob. (ADN. 59 H 97, fo 20 vo, no. 57 (1221, November)).
Butler of Flanders (Bouteillers, Pr., no. XXIX, pp. 30-3r ).
Knight (ADN. 59 H 97, fo 20 ro, no. 52 (1218/19, April)).
Crusade against the Stadingi (Duchesne: Bethune, Pr., p. 128 (1233)) ?
x Sophia (L. Devillers : Cartul. Hainaut, III, pp. 29-30, no. LIX (1232, August)) of Breda (G. de Liedekerke : Gavre, pp. 113-114).
He probably died on November 9, 1241 (Ibidem, pp. 111-112).
Children:
-Razo (VII), lord of Liedekerke and Breda (Cartul. Ninove, CCF. II, no. CLXXIII, pp. 875-876 (circ. 1232) ).
-Arnold of Impegem (Les Bouteillers, Pr., no. XLIII, pp. 48-49 (1248, September 16) ). -John, lord of Eksaarde (G. de l.iedekerke: Gavre, p. 115).
-Mary (Duchesne : Guines, Pr., pp. 532, 533, 537).
-Sophia (Goet§touwers : Rozendaal, r, no. 61, p. 65 (1259, November 30); G. de Liedekerke : Gavre, p. 1 I 5).
-N. (Baud. Avesnes, pp. 584-585).
Warlop, 812-813

https://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174874&tree=LEO
citation: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.).
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Heer van Gavere, Chievres, Liedekerke en Eksaarde. Hij streed met zijn vader en zijn broers in de slag bij Bouvinnes (De Slag bij Bouvines vond op 27 juli 1214 plaats nabij het dorp Bouvines dat tussen Rijsel en Doornik ligt. De plaats behoorde toentertijd tot het graafschap Vlaanderen, maar ligt nu in het Franse Noorderdepartement van de regio Nord-Pas-de-Calais.) en werd gevangengenomen. Na zijn vrijlating was hij een belangrijk vertrouweling van gravin Johanna van Constantinopel.

Curator note: This statement seems to contradict Warlop. History indicated that Raase V fought at the battle of Bouvines on 27 July 1214 with his two oldest sons, both of whom were named Rasse. History indicates that Raase V was captured with one son and both were released, one son died in battle.
Warlop is clear that the oldest son died in battle, he is less clear regarding the younger son and says he “probably” died in battle.
If this statement is true then the younger son survived and died (according to Cawley) in 1241, other sources say Novenber 9, 1941.
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Afhankelijk van de bron lopen de nummeringen uiteen.

• Razo de Gavera (vermeld tussen 1031-1067)
• Raas I, (1062-1096), getrouwd met Katharina van Cysoing
• Raas II (1088-1149), getrouwd met Elisabeth van Gent
• Raas III (1112-1150), heer van Gavere, getrouwd in 1138 met Eva van Chièvres
• Raas IV (1139-1190), heer van Gavere en Chièvres, getrouwd in 1150 met Mathilde van Liedekerke
• Raas V (1145-1218), heer van Gavere, Chièvres en Liedekerke, getrouwd in 1190 met Clara van Herzele

* Raas VI (1185-1241), heer van Gavere, Chièvres, Liedekerke en Eksaarde, getrouwd met Sofia van Breda

• Raas VII (1253-) heer van Gavere, Chièvres, neef van de voorgaande, getrouwd met Jeanne van Wavrin
• Raas VIII (-1300), heer van Gavere, Chièvres, Liedekerke, Breda, Boelaere en Aspelaere, getrouwd in 1273 met Beatrix van Strijen

Huis Laval-Montmorency[bewerken | brontekst bewerken]
in 1286 trouwt Beatrix van Gavere (-1315), dochter van Raas VIII, met Guy IX van Laval (-1333), waarmee de titel heer van Gavere overgaat in het huis Laval.

“Heren van Gavere.” Wikipedia, 20 Feb. 2022. Wikipedia, https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heren_van_Gavere&oldid=6....
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RASO [VIII] van Gavre (-1241). Heer van Gavre: "Razzo dominus de Gavera pincerna Flandriæ et…Sophia uxor eius" founded "capellaniam in castro nostro apud Lidekerke" for Ninove, and confirmed donations made by "bonæ memoriæ Razzo dominus de Gavera pater mei Razzonis", by charter dated Jan 1232[601]. "Razo de Gavera cum filio meo Razone" donated revenue from "Bouchout" to Ninove by charter dated to 1232[602]. “Rasse seigneur de Gavre” donated harvest to Epinlieu abbey, for the souls of himself “[son]...épouse Sophie, de leurs enfants...”, by charter dated Aug 1232[603].

m ([1208?]%29 SOPHIE van Breda, daughter of GODEFRID [II] Heer van Breda & his wife Lutgarde van Cuyk (-after Aug 1232). Europäische Stammtafeln dates her marriage “um 1208”[604]. If that is correct, Sophie was already married when named in the following document: “Lutgardis domina de Scotis” donated “duodecim libras Flandrensis monete...apud Serber et...apud Perke loco...Bukt” to Antwerp St. Michiel, with the consent of “liberis meis...Godefrido, Egidio, Henrico, Sophia et Beatrice”, by charter dated 19 Apr 1219[605]. Sophie’s inclusion in this document suggests that she was not yet married at the time, although the birth date of her oldest son suggests that she married soon afterwards. Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 30 Mar 1257 under which “Raso miles dominus de Liedkerke tutor Henrici legitimi heredis de Breda” granted “terram...Agger” to “Henrico militi dicto Buffel” recording the conditions imposed by “Henricus bone memorie avunculus noster dominus de Breda”[606]. "Razzo dominus de Gavera pincerna Flandriæ et…Sophia uxor eius" founded "capellaniam in castro nostro apud Lidekerke" for Ninove, and confirmed donations made by "bonæ memoriæ Razzo dominus de Gavera pater mei Razzonis", by charter dated Jan 1232[607]. “Rasse seigneur de Gavre” donated harvest to Epinlieu abbey, for the souls of himself “[son]...épouse Sophie, de leurs enfants...”, by charter dated Aug 1232[608]. Raso [VIII] & his wife had children:

[601] De Smet (1841), Tome II, Appendices, CLXIX, p. 872.
[602] De Smet (1841), Tome II, Appendices, CLXXIII, p. 875.
[603] Devillers (1867), Tome III, LIX, p. 29.
[604] ES XXVII 29.
[605] Dillo, M. & Van Synghel, G. A. M. (eds.) (2000) Oorkondonboek van Noord-Brabant tot 1312(The Hague) (“Oorkondenboek Noord-Brabant”), II De heerlijkheden Breda en Bergen op Zoom, Eerste stuk, 950, p. 175.
[606] Oorkondenboek Noord-Brabant, II, Eerste stuk, 1030, p. 330.
[607] De Smet (1841), Tome II, Appendices, CLXIX, p. 872.
[608] Devillers (1867), Tome III, LIX, p. 29.

Fm fmgMedlands @ http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#RasoGavredie...
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He passed away Saturday, Nov. 1241 at Bouvines, 59, F ; not at the battle of Bouvines, Jul 27, 1214! Bouvines is a neighboring municipality of Cysoing, near Lille. Buried in Affligem Abbey. There is a further division of the many domains, with new family branches, especially visible in the next generation: the main branch becomes 'van Liedekerke', next to 'van Gavere-Herinez' and 'Mulaert'. Raas VI 'the old' van Gavere van Liedekerke was a knight; lord of Gavere, Liedekerke Breda, Chièvres and Eksaarde; 'Count of Evergem'; from 1241 'opperschenker' (boutelgier or bottelier) of Flanders; the latter is a hereditary function as personal counselor of the Countess Joanna I of Flanders. Joanna was married to Ferdinand of Portugal, who was imprisoned in Paris for 12 years after Bouvines. Rasse played an important role in redeeming that Ferdinand. He was thus a vassal in three counties. He had the great barony of Gavere in Flanders, the great lordship of Breda in Brabant and Chièvres in Hainaut! After his death, the family assets were divided among his children, creating different family branches: there is the main branch that now becomes 'van Liedekerke', next to 'Gavere-Herinez' and 'Mulaert.'

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Individual Note
Cité 1217, 1241. Seigneur de Gavre, Liedekerke, Chièvres. Echanson de Flandre, chevalier. Participa à la Croisade contre les "Stadingen" ou "Stadingi". Dit le glorieux chevalier, pair de hainaut et grand échansson de Flandres. Il fut fait prisonnier à la bataille de Bouvines en 1214.

Sources :
R Goffin, 1974.
E Warlop, 1976.
L de Herckenrode, 1865.
C Butkens, 1724.
C Stroobant, 1853.
Stokvis, 1888-1893.
Poplimont, 1866.
FV Goethals, 1849.
B d'Ursel, 2010.

Images:
Collection de moulages de sceaux des Archives générales du Royaume.- I 347 - 304.
Warlop E 1975.
Family Note
Marriage with Sophie de BREDA
Vers 1208 selon B d'Ursel, 2010.

Guy van MARCKE de LUMMEN @ https://gw.geneanet.org/gvmdl?lang=en&p=rasse+vi&n=de+gavre
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Il fut prisonnier à la bataille de Bouvines et abandonne le blason au trescheur porté par ses ancêtres pour adopter un nouveau aux 3 lions

2ème fils de Rasse VIII, Seigneur de Gavre, Liedekerke et Chièvres, Bouteiller héréditaire et baron de Flandre, Pair et baron de Hainaut. Il épouse Sophie de Breda en 1208.

A l’issue de la bataille de Bouvines, Ferrand de Portugal est emmené en captivité à Paris. Il y resta 12 années au terme desquelles une ambassade dont faisait partie Rasse de Gavre, apporta l’énorme rançon rassemblée par Jeanne de Flandre.pour libérer son époux.

Translation: He was a prisoner at the battle of Bouvines and abandoned the tressure coat of arms worn by his ancestors to adopt a new one with 3 lions

2nd son of Rasse VIII, Lord of Gavre, Liedekerke and Chièvres, hereditary Bouteiller and Baron of Flanders, Peer and Baron of Hainaut. He married Sophie of Breda in 1208.

After the battle of Bouvines, Ferrand de Portugal was taken captive in Paris. He stayed there for 12 years, at the end of which an embassy, including Rasse de Gavre, brought the enormous ransom collected by Jeanne de Flandre to free her husband.
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In 1208 his father Raso and mother Clarisse, with consent of their children Razo junior, Arnold and Filips transfer goods to the duke of Brabant.[1] Mentioned in 1227, 32.[2]

Sources:
↑ A. Verkooren, Inventaire des chartes et cartulaires des duchés de Brabant et de Limbourg et des pays Outre Meuse. Deuxième partie. Cartulaires. Tome I, 1961, p. 38.
↑ A. Verkooren, Inventaire des chartes et cartulaires des duchés de Brabant et de Limbourg et des pays Outre Meuse. Deuxième partie. Cartulaires. Tome I, 1961, p. 64, 70.
Godfried Croenen, Familie en Macht, de familie Berthout en de Brabantse adel, Leuven, 2003, p. 321.
E. Warlop, The Flemish Nobility before 1300, III, p. 812.

Ceustermans, R. (2020, December 10). Raso (Gavere) of Gavere. WikiTree. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gavere-4

1. RASO [VIII van Gavre] (-1241). Heer van Gavre: "Razzo dominus de Gavera pincerna Flandriæ et…Sophia uxor eius" founded "capellaniam in castro nostro apud Lidekerke" for Ninove, and confirmed donations made by "bonæ memoriæ Razzo dominus de Gavera pater mei Razzonis", by charter dated Jan 1232[602]. "Razo de Gavera cum filio meo Razone" donated revenue from "Bouchout" to Ninove by charter dated to 1232[603]. “Rasse seigneur de Gavre” donated harvest to Epinlieu abbey, for the souls of himself “[son]...épouse Sophie, de leurs enfants...”, by charter dated Aug 1232[604]. m ([1208?]%29 SOPHIE van Breda, daughter of GODEFRID [II] Heer van Breda & his wife Lutgarde van Cuyk (-after Aug 1232). Europäische Stammtafeln dates her marriage “um 1208”[605]. If that is correct, Sophie was already married when named in the following document: “Lutgardis domina de Scotis” donated “duodecim libras Flandrensis monete...apud Serber et...apud Perke loco...Bukt” to Antwerp St. Michiel, with the consent of “liberis meis...Godefrido, Egidio, Henrico, Sophia et Beatrice”, by charter dated 19 Apr 1219[606]. Sophie’s inclusion in this document suggests that she was not yet married at the time, although the birth date of her oldest son suggests that she married soon afterwards. Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 30 Mar 1257 under which “Raso miles dominus de Liedkerke tutor Henrici legitimi heredis de Breda” granted “terram...Agger” to “Henrico militi dicto Buffel” recording the conditions imposed by “Henricus bone memorie avunculus noster dominus de Breda”[607]. "Razzo dominus de Gavera pincerna Flandriæ et…Sophia uxor eius" founded "capellaniam in castro nostro apud Lidekerke" for Ninove, and confirmed donations made by "bonæ memoriæ Razzo dominus de Gavera pater mei Razzonis", by charter dated Jan 1232[608]. “Rasse seigneur de Gavre” donated harvest to Epinlieu abbey, for the souls of himself “[son]...épouse Sophie, de leurs enfants...”, by charter dated Aug 1232[609]. Raso [VIII] & his wife had children: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc103320081

a) RASO [X] (-27 Feb 1291). "Razo de Gavera cum filio meo Razone" donated revenue from "Bouchout" to Ninove by charter dated to 1232[610]. Heer van Liedekerke. “Rasso de Gavera dominus de Liedekercka” named “Arnulphus miles frater meus” in a charter dated mid-May 1244[611]. "Razo dominus de Lidekerka" certified that he had sold land "jacentis contra villam de Iderghem" to Ninove, with the consent of "Margaretæ uxoris meæ", by charter dated 1248[612]. “Raso dominus de Lydekerke tutor Henrici directi heredis Heinrici bone memorie domini de Breda” granted “terram...Nuescakersloc” to “Balduino militi filio Popponis de Stauenisse” by charter dated 25 Jun 1255, sealed by “nobilis Ysabele matris Heinrici predicti domini de Breda”[613]. "Rasso dictus de Gavera dominus de Lidekerka miles et Margareta uxor mea…Rasso primogenitus filius dictorum Rassonis domini de Lidekerka et Margaretæ uxoris eiusdem dominus de Bouler miles" ratified an agreement with Ninove, with the consent of "Arnulpho dicto de Ympenghem militi fratri nostro et Margaretæ uxori suæ…Sophia dicti Arnulphi filia quam de priori uxore sua susceperat cum marito suo Scalkino", by charter dated Mar 1267[614]. “Rasses de Gavre chevaliers sires de Liedekerke” sold property “en le parroche de Lombeke” to Guy Count of Flanders, with the consent of “Margherite femme audit Rasse seigneur de Liedekerke, dame de Liedekerke...Jehans lor fius de Liedekerke chevaliers”, by charter dated May 1286[615]. Heer van Breda (part): Jean I Duke of Brabant confirmed “Gerardus de Wesemale miles” in “dimidietatem totius terræ de Breda”, following the death of “consanguinei nostri Arnoldi de Lovanio domino de Breda”, with “Raso dominus de Lidekerke” holding “oppidum de Breda”, by charter dated end-Jun 1287[616]. The primary source which confirms his date of death has not been identified. m MARGUERITE d’Enghien, daughter of SOHIER Seigneur d’Enghien & his wife Alix van Zotteghem (-[1291]). The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "filiarum…domini Sigeri…secundam" married "dominus de Liedekerke, dominus Rasso de Gavre" and records that they had several children "quorum primogenitus Rasso" who married "filiam Henrici de Boulers juxta Grammont"[617]. "Razo dominus de Lidekerka" certified that he had sold land "jacentis contra villam de Iderghem" to Ninove, with the consent of "Margaretæ uxoris meæ", by charter dated 1248[618]. "Rasso dictus de Gavera dominus de Lidekerka miles et Margareta uxor mea…Rasso primogenitus filius dictorum Rassonis domini de Lidekerka et Margaretæ uxoris eiusdem dominus de Bouler miles" ratified an agreement with Ninove, with the consent of "Arnulpho dicto de Ympenghem militi fratri nostro et Margaretæ uxori suæ…Sophia dicti Arnulphi filia quam de priori uxore sua susceperat cum marito suo Scalkino", by charter dated Mar 1267[619]. “Rasses de Gavre chevaliers sires de Liedekerke” sold property “en le parroche de Lombeke” to Guy Count of Flanders, with the consent of “Margherite femme audit Rasse seigneur de Liedekerke, dame de Liedekerke...Jehans lor fius de Liedekerke chevaliers”, by charter dated May 1286[620]. Raso [X] & his wife had children: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc103320081
b) ARNOUT van Gavre (-after Mar 1267, maybe [1270]). “Rasso de Gavera dominus de Liedekercka” named “Arnulphus miles frater meus” in a charter dated mid-May 1244[644]. Heer van Impeghem: "Rasso dictus de Gavera dominus de Lidekerka miles et Margareta uxor mea…Rasso primogenitus filius dictorum Rassonis domini de Lidekerka et Margaretæ uxoris eiusdem dominus de Bouler miles" ratified an agreement with Ninove, with the consent of "Arnulpho dicto de Ympenghem militi fratri nostro et Margaretæ uxori suæ…Sophia dicti Arnulphi filia quam de priori uxore sua susceperat cum marito suo Scalkino", by charter dated Mar 1267[645]. Ursel suggests that Arnout died “vers 1270”[646]. m firstly SOPHIE Vilain, daughter of ---. Goethals names “Sophie Vilain” as Arnout’s first wife without citing any source on which this information is based[647]. m secondly (before 16 Sep 1248) MARGUERITE, daughter of ---. Goethals names “Marguerite dame de Hérmiez” as Arnout’s second wife without citing any source on which this information is based[648]. Presumably he is attempting to explain the acquisition of Hérimez by her son. "Rasso dictus de Gavera dominus de Lidekerka miles et Margareta uxor mea…Rasso primogenitus filius dictorum Rassonis domini de Lidekerka et Margaretæ uxoris eiusdem dominus de Bouler miles" ratified an agreement with Ninove, with the consent of "Arnulpho dicto de Ympenghem militi fratri nostro et Margaretæ uxori suæ…Sophia dicti Arnulphi filia quam de priori uxore sua susceperat cum marito suo Scalkino", by charter dated Mar 1267[649]. She was presumably related in some way to the Beveren family of châtelains de Dixmude, as shown by the charter dated Aug 1282 which is quoted below. Arnout & his first wife had one child: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc103320081
c) JAN van Gavre . Goethals records that his parentage is confirmed by the blazons which decorate his daughter’s tomb (in order “Bette, Comines, Ghistelles, Lichtervelde, Gavre, Breda, Exarde, van der Moere”)[652]. "Ioannes Mulaert dictus miles dominus de Exaerde" confirmed donations to Bodelo abbey at Gand, with the consent of "Rasonis filii mei primogeniti ætatis iam legitima, per manum...nepotis mei domini Hugonis castellani Gandensis", by charter dated Oct 1274[653]. m ELISABETH van Gavre dite d’Axele Dame d’Exarde, daughter of JAN van Gavre dit Mulaert & his wife Isabelle Vilain dite van der Moere. Goethals records her parentage and marriage without citing the corresponding primary source[654]. Jan & his wife had [four or more] children: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc103320081
d) MARIA van Gavre (-after May 1263). Her parentage is indicated by the charter dated Oct 1274 under which "Ioannes Mulaert dictus miles dominus de Exaerde" confirmed donations to Bodelo abbey at Gand, with the consent of "Rasonis filii mei primogeniti ætatis iam legitima, per manum...nepotis mei domini Hugonis castellani Gandensis"[659]. The primary source which confirms her parentage more precisely has not been identified. "Hugo castellanus Gandensis et Maria uxor mea" donated serfs to the church of Antwerp by charter dated 29 May 1243[660]. “Hugo castellanus Gandensis…Maria uxor dicti castellani” sold "villam de Bornhem cum castro" to "dominæ Margaretæ Flandriæ et Hannoniæ comitissæ" for his marriage to "Machtildis sororis meæ" by charter dated [Mar] 1250[661]. “Hugo unigenitus domini Hugonis castellani Gandensis ac domini de Hosdain et Marie eius uxoris” confirmed the donations of property “in loco...Westehuse” made to Cambron by “patris et matris mee” by charter dated May 1263[662]. m HUGO [III Burggraaf van Gent], son of HUGO [II] Burggraaf van Gent & his wife Eudette de Champlitte (-[Dec 1264/Apr 1265]). https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc103320081