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Rhys Gryg ap Rhys

Also Known As: "Rhys Wendon", "Wendot", "Gryg", "Rhys "the Hoarse", "" Rhys Fychan", "Rhys ap Rhys"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Carmarthenshire, Wales
Death: 1233 (63-72)
Llandello, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Place of Burial: Pebidiog, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom
Immediate Family:

Son of Rhys ap Gruffudd, Prince of South Wales and Gwenllian verch Madog
Husband of Ellyw verch Trahaearn; Gwenllian ferch Elidyr and Mathilde de Clare, Lady Bramber
Father of Iorwerth ap Rhys; Ellyw verch Rhys Gryg; Alis ferch Rhys Gryg; Arddun ferch Rhys Gryg; Gwenllian Gethin verch Rhys Gryg and 10 others
Brother of Maelgwn Hen ap Rhys; Gruffydd ap Rhys; Margred 1 ferch Rhys; Maredudd Gethin ap Rhys and Gwenllian verch Rhys
Half brother of Catrin verch Rhys; N.N. verch Rhys; N.N. verch Rhys; Cadwaladr Lwgr ap Rhys; Owain ap Rhys and 16 others

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About Rhys Gryg ap Rhys

See Peter Bartrum, https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5266/bleddyn... (August 13, 2017; Anne Brannen, curator)

See Darrell Wolcott, http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id187.html, "The Children of Lord Rhys," for untangling of these lines. (April 21, 2016, Anne Brannen, curator)

Please see Darrell Wolcott :Bartrum's "Pedigrees of the Welsh Tribal Patriarchs" #10 Iarddur ap Cynddelw, footnote 6; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id178.html. (Steven Ferry, September 10, 2019.)

Please see Darrell Wolcott: The Welsh Ancestry of the Tudor Dynasty; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id217.html. (Steven Ferry, April 8, 2020.)

Please see Darrell Wolcott: The Floruit of Einion ap Seisyllt; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id48.html. (Steven Ferry, August 10, 2020.)

Please see Darrell Wolcott: The Ancestry of Owain Glyndwr; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id200.html. (Steven Ferry, September 13, 2020.)

Please see Darrell Wolcott: The Children of Lord Rhys; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id187.html. (Steven Ferry, September 15, 2020.)

Please see Darrell Wolcott: Maredudd Gethin ap Lord Rhys; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id213.html. (Steven Ferry, September 17, 2020.)

Please see Darrell Wolcott: Pedigree of Madog ap Idnerth; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id267.html; [#17;50]. (Steven Ferry, June 12, 2021.)

Please see Darrell Wolcott: Ifor Bach, Lord of Senghenydd; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id316.html (Steven Ferry, August 4, 2023.)

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RHYS Gryg/the Hoarse (-Llandeilo 1234, bur St David´s). The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "Rhys and Maredudd the sons of the lord Rhys subjected the castle of Dinevwr and the castle of Cantrev Bychan" in 1195[472]. The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "Rhys the Hoarse died at Llandeilo the Great and was buried in Menevia near the grave of his father" in 1233[473].

m firstly ---.

m secondly (1219) as her second husband, MATILDA [Joan] de Clare, widow of WILLIAM de Briouse, daughter of RICHARD de Clare Earl of Hertford & his wife Amicie of Gloucester ([1185/90]-). The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "Rhys the Hoarse married the daughter of the earl of Clare" in 1219[474]. Her birth date range is estimated from her having had at least one child by her first marriage and at least three by her second.

Rhys & his first wife had one child:

a) RHYS Mechyll (-1244). The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "Rhys the Hoarse was captured at Llanarthneu by his son Rhys the little, and for the castle of Llanymddyvri was liberated" in 1227[475]. If this event is correctly dated, Rhys must have been too old to have born from his father´s marriage to Matilda de Clare. Lord of Dinefwr. The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "Rhys Mechyll son of Rhys the Hoarse, son of the lord Rhys" died in 1244[476]. m MATILDA de Briouse, daughter of ---. Rhys & his wife had two children:

i) RHYS Fychan/junior [Ieuanc] (-Dinevwr Feb 1271, bur Tal y Llychau). The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "young Rhys son of Rhys Mechyll son of Rhys the Hoarse" died in 1271 "on the octave of the feast of St Laurence in the castle of Dinevwr and was buried at Tal y Llychau"[477]. m GWLADUS of Gwynedd, daughter of GRUFFYD ap Llywelyn Prince of Gwynedd & his wife --- (-1261). The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "Gwladus the daughter of Gruffudd son of Llywelyn, the wife of the lord Rhys, son of Rhys Mechyll" died in 1261[478]. Rhys & his wife had three children:

(a) RHYS Wyndod (-after 1283). The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "Rhys son of Maredudd son of Owain son of Gruffudd son of the lord Rhys, and Rhys Wyndod son of young Rhys son of Rhys Mechell son of Rhys the Hoarse son of the lord Rhys, nephew sister´s son to the prince, became reconciled to Pain son of Patrick" in 1276[479].
(b) GRUFFYDD .
(c) LLYWELYN (-after 1276). The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "…Rhys Wyndod son of young Rhys son of Rhys Mechell son of Rhys the Hoarse son of the lord Rhys, nephew sister´s son to the prince…Llywelyn his brother and Howel and Rhys the Hoarse quitted their territory and went to Gwynedd to Llywelyn" in 1276[480].

ii) GWENLLIAN . m GILBERT Talbot, son of [RICHARD Talbot of Linton & his wife Aline Basset] (-before 8 Sep 1274, bur Wormesley Priory, Herefordshire).

Rhys & his [first/second] wife had two children:

b) MAREDUDD (-Dyryslwyn 6 Aug 1271, bur Whitland). The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "Maredudd son of Rhys the Hoarse" died 6 Aug 1271 "in the castle of Dyryslwyn and was buried at Whitland"[481]. m ---. The name of Maredudd´s wife is not known. Maredudd & his wife had five childen:

i) RHYS (-1292). m (1285) AUDA Hastings, daughter of HENRY Hastings & his wife ---.

c) HYWEL .



Son of Rhys ap Gruffydd and Gwenllian ferch Madog of Powys
Husband of Ellyw verch Thomas; Gwerfyl verch Maelgwn and Mathilde de Clare Father of Llywelyn Dhiriaid ap Rhys Gryg; Madog ap Rhys; Rhys Mechyll ap Rhys Gryg; Maredudd "Goch" ap Rhys Prince of Deheubarth and 2 others Brother of Gryffydd Ap Rhys Madog; Maelgwn "Hen" ap Rhys; Annest Agnes verch Rhys; Gwenllian Verch Rhys Cynwrig and 2 others Half brother of Elinor verch Rhys; Gruffydd ap Rhys; Cadwgan ap Rhys; Margred verch Rhys; Angharad verch Rhys; Maredudd Gethin ap Gruffydd; Gwenllian #1 verch Rhys; Nest verch Rhys; Gwenllian verch Rhys; Hywel Sais ap Rhys, arglwydd of Sanclêr; Morgan ap Rhys; Cynwrig ap Rhys; Maredudd Ddall ap Rhys; Maredudd ap Rhys and Maelgwyn "Fawr" ap Rhys



Rhys Gryg (English "Rhys the Hoarse") (died 1234), real name Rhys ap Rhys, also known as Rhys Fychan(i.e. "The Younger") was a Welsh Prince who ruled part of the Kingdom of Deheubarth.

Rhys was the fourth son of Rhys ap Gruffydd (The Lord Rhys) and his wife Gwenllian, daughter of Madog ap Maredudd of Powys.

He married Mathilde, the daughter of Richard de Clare, 3rd Earl of Hertford. In Rhys ap Gruffydd's old age he had a great deal of trouble keeping control of his sons, and a bitter feud broke out between Gruffydd ap Rhys II and Maelgwn ap Rhys. Rhys Gryg formed an alliance with Gruffydd against Maelgwn, then in 1195 joined with another brother, Maredudd, in a conspiracy against their father and captured Dinefwr Castle. Their father however retaliated by capturing both of them and imprisoning them in Ystrad Meurig Castle.

Rhys Gryg reappears in 1204. Rhys ap Gruffydd had died in 1197 and Rhys Gryg's ally Gruffydd in 1201 and Maelgwn had taken possession of most of Deheubarth. In 1204 Rhys made an alliance with Gruffydd's sons, Rhys and Owain, and drove Maelgwn out of Ystrad Tywi which was then shared between them, with Rhys Gryg getting the Cantref Mawr. By 1211 Rhys had fallen out with his nephews, who were supporters of Llywelyn the Great and intervened on behalf of King John of England, attacking and capturing Llandovery from them with the help of English Royal troops. After John has forced Llywelyn to give up all his conquests outside the core area of Gwynedd, Rhys joined with Maelgwn to eject his nephews from the remainder of their lands. However when King John built a castle at Aberystwyth, Rhys and Maelgwn changed sides, attacked the castle and burnt it. In 1212 Rhys attacked and burnt Swansea.

The sons of Gruffydd ap Rhys, Rhys and Owain, had now made their peace with King John and gone over to the English Royal side. In 1213 and English army led by Falkes of Breauté was sent to strip Rhys Gryg of his lands and give them to his nephews. Rhys was defeated in a battle at Llandeilo and was forced to flee to Ceredigion to seek the protection of his brother Maelgwn. Later in the year he was captured by the English and imprisoned at Carmarthen.

In 1215 however the sons of Gruffydd ap Rhys turned against the king and made an alliance with their uncle Maelgwn. The English released Rhys Gryg in the hope that he would start a civil war but instead Rhys joined forces with Llywelyn the Great, and he, along with Maelgwn and the sons of Gruffydd ap Rhys were with Llywelyn in the attack which captured many castles in South Wales in December that year. At the parliament held by Llywelyn at Aberdovey in 1216, Rhys Gryg was allocated Cantref Mawr and Cantref Bychan and other lands.

Rhys supported Llywelyn during the remainder of his career. In the war of 1231 he joined with his brother Maelgwn's son, Maelgwn the Younger, to burn Cardigan and then capture the castle for Llywelyn. In 1234 he joined with Maelgwn Fychan again to attack Carmarthen, but received wounds of which he died at Llandeilo Fawr shortly afterwards.

He was buried in St. David's Cathedral and was succeeded by his son Maredudd. He left another son known as Rhys Mechyll(d.1244), who had a son named Rhys Fychan ap Rhys Mechyll and a daughter named Gwenllian Mechyll, who eventually became his heiress and married Gilbert Talbot(d.1274), grandfather of Gilbert Talbot, 1st Baron Talbot(d.1345/6).[2][3] The ancient arms of the House of Dinefwr Gules, a lion rampant or within a bordure or were inherited and assumed in lieu of the Talbot paternal arms as "arms of alliance" on marriage to a great princess.



See Peter Bartrum, http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5266/bleddyn%... (August 13, 2017; Anne Brannen, curator)

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