Robert Dethick of Dethick, Esq.

Not a known husband of Isabel Tuchet, Baroness

Biography

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/DeThick-18

Robert Dethick (dvp. abt. 1403), was the eldest son of Sir William Dethick of Dethick and Radbourne, Derby & Mattersey, Notts. (d. 1408/10) and Alice.[1] He died in battle.[2]

A comparison of Roskell, Clark & Rawcliffe's (1993) research,[1] to Blomefield's (1807),[2] suggests that his mother Alice,[1] may have been a Frankville,[2] but this is not certain because various pedigrees for the Dethick family do not agree.[3]

For instance, "Dethick of Newhall," in Vis. of Derby, 1569 & 1611, asserts that Robert was the son of Geoffrey.

Children

1. Thomas (dsp) ... died in battle with father.[2]
2. Isabel (d. c. 1435).[4][5] m. Thomas Babington (b. c. 1376 - d. 04 Jan 1464).[6][7]
3. Alice.[8] m. Henry Poole.[8]

Death

Roskell, Clark & Rawcliffe's (1993) state, that Robert dvp, so he died bef. 1408 or '10. Wikipedia asserts that he died in 1403,[9] while Blomefield (1807), states that he died in 1460 at Towton with his son Thomas, but this appears to be an error.[10]

Robert's daughter Isabel, brought Dethick Hall into the Babington family.[2] Stephen & Lee (1885) state, her husband Thomas Babington, was fifth in descent from John de Babington (living Hen III).[11]

Dethick of Newhall (Vis. 1569 & 1611)

Source: "Dethick of Newhall," in Derbyshire Vis. Pedigrees 159 & 1611. < Hathitrust.org > The first Geoffrey in the chart is prob. an error. The father of Robert, Reginald and John was SIr William Dethick (d. 1408/10) of Dethick and Radbourne, Derbys & Mattersey, Notts. < click here to see the full-size original image >

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Poole of Whittington, (Vis. of Derby 1569 & 1611)

Source: "Poole of Whittington," in Derbyshire Pedigrees 1569 & 1611. < Hathitrust >. < click here to see full-sized image >

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Shrewsbury

The Battle of Shrewsbury was a battle fought on 21 July 1403, waged between an army led by the Lancastrian King Henry IV and a rebel army led by Henry "Harry Hotspur" Percy from Northumberland. The battle, the first in which English archers fought each other on English soil, reaffirmed the effectiveness of the longbow and ended the Percy challenge to King Henry IV of England.[1]

Part of the fighting is believed to have taken place at what is now Battlefield, Shropshire, England, three miles north of the centre of Shrewsbury.[1] It is marked today by Battlefield Church and Battlefield Heritage Park.

Battle of Shrewsbury 1403

Source: An image from a set of 8 extra-illustrated volumes of A tour in Wales by Thomas Pennant (1726-1798) that chronicle the three journeys he made through Wales between 1773 and 1776. The volumes include a number of original drawings by Moses Griffiths, Ingleby and other well known artists of the period. < Wikimedia Commons >. Public domain.

Sources

1. Roskell, J.S., Clark, L. & Rawcliffe, C. (1993). "Dethick, Sir William (d.1408/10), of Dethick and Radbourne, Derbys. and Mattersey, Notts.," in The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1386-1421. HOP. Web.
2. Blomefield, F. (1807). "Dethick's pedigree," in An Essay Towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk: Gallow and Brothercross. Google Books.
3. see G2G discussion: "Have I found the right Geoffrey De Thick?" G2G. WikiTree.com
4. Burke, J. (1847). "Babington of Rothley Temple," in Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry, 1, p. 41. Google Books.
5. (302) Babington of Dethick and Rothley Temple, (2017, July 24). Landed families of Britain and Ireland. Weblog.
6. "VI. Thomas Babington," in Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica, 1843, 8, p. 322-323. Google Books.
7. Thomas Babington of Dethick (c.1376-1464).
8. Wikipedia: Babington family
9. "Poole of Whittington," in Derbyshire Pedigrees 1569 & 1611. Hathitrust.org. eBook.
10. Robert Dethick (d. 1403)
11. Wikipedia: Dethick Manor v. 20:48, 28 September 2019.[1]
12. Wikipedia: Babington family
13. see Dethick-27
14. Stephen, L. & Lee, S. (1885). "Babington, Anthony (1561-1586)," in DNB, 2, p. 308. Google Books.