Sir Henry Johns

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• JONES, Henry I (?1532-86), of Abermarlais, Carm.
• Family and Education
• b. ?1532, 1st. s. of Sir Thomas Jones† of Abermarlais by his 2nd w. Mary, da. of James Berkeley of Thornbury, Glos., wid. of Thomas Perrot of Haverfordwest, Pemb.; bro. of Richard Jones and half-bro. of Sir John Perrot. m. (1) by 1553, Elizabeth (d. 10 Aug. 1571), da. of Matthew Herbert of Cogan Pill, Glam., at least 1s. Sir Thomas; (2) Eleanor, da. of Henry, 2nd Earl of Worcester, wid. of Sir Roger Vaughan of Porthaml, Brec.; (3) 31 Aug. 1584, Elizabeth, da. of Sir John Salusbury of Lleweni, Denb., wid. of John Salesbury of Rûg, Merion. At least 1s. illegit, Kntd. 1553; suc. fa. 1558/9.2
• Offices Held
• Commr. goods of churches and fraternities, Carm. 1553, armour 1569, musters 1570, victuals 1574, tanneries 1574, piracy 1579; sheriff, Card. 1553-4, 1559-60, Carm. 1573-4, 1583-4, Brec. 1581-2; jt. constable, Llandovery castle, Glam. 1554; j.p. Carm. 1559, q. 1561-d., Card. 1561; custos rot. Carm. from c.1561.3
• Biography
• Jones held a commanding position, both socially and politically, in Carmarthenshire and Cardiganshire. From 1569 he was on every commission set up by the council in the marches of Wales to deal with Carmarthenshire affairs, and in 1581 he was one of seven commissioners appointed by the Privy Council to inquire into irregularities in the diocese of St. David’s.4
• On 5 Feb. 1563 Jones complained in the House that six of his servants had been arrested, but his privilege protected him only to the extent of obtaining them bail until the end of the session. Browne Willis’s error in ascribing a Carmarthenshire seat in 1571 to John Vaughan, allows the assumption that Jones sat again. No speeches by him are known for this Parliament but he was appointed to two committees: one for the bill against priests disguised as servants (1 May 1571), the other for the bill concerning the 12 shires of Wales (25 May). His appointment as sheriff in 1573 was unsuccessfully challenged by the Earl of Essex on the ground that he was a murderer and an ‘earnest papist’. As to the latter it is true that he is mentioned on a list of sympathizers drawn up by an adherent of Mary Stuart in 1574, but his having held office through so many religious changes suggests that he had no strong views of any kind. When he came to make his will on 22 Sept. 1586, two days before his death, he left money for St. David’s cathedral and for the repair of Llansadwrn parish church. His household servants received small bequests, his widow an annuity of £100 and his base son, John, an annuity of £6 13s.4d. The will was proved 27 Oct. by his eldest son, heir and sole executor, Sir Thomas Jones.5
• Ref Volumes: 1558-1603
• Authors: A.H.D. / P. S. Edwards
• Notes
• 1. Sat for Old Sarum or Cardiganshire.
• 2. Dwnn, Vis. Wales , i. 189-90; Trans. Carm. Antiq. Soc. xxiv. 45-6; Lansd. 146, f. 20; PCC 30 Chaynay.
• 3. CPR, 1553, p. 419; 1554-5, p. 62; 1560-3, pp. 445-6; Lansd. 146, f. 20; 1218, ff. 37, 85, 86; C66/985; APC, xiii. 142; SP12/93/9, 12/21.
• 4. Flenley, Cal. Reg. Council, Marches of Wales, 60, 69, 74, 109, 126, 132, 270; APC, xiii. 142.
• 5. CJ, i. 64-5, 87, 92; D’Ewes, 84, 180, 188; SP12/90/8 trans. Bull. Bd. Celtic Studies, vi. 167-8; Cath. Rec. Soc. viii. 93; PCC 52 Windsor; C142/213/69
• From: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/jo...
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  • Politics and law
• Henry Jones (lawyer) (died 1592), Welsh lawyer and clergyman
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• Sir Henry Haydn Jones (1863–1950), Welsh Liberal Party politician, MP 1910–1945
• Henry Jones (MP) (died 1792), British Member of Parliament for Devizes, 1780–1784
• Henry Cox Jones (1821–1913), prominent Alabama politician
• Sir Henry Jones (MP for Carmarthenshire) (?1532–1586), Welsh MP for Carmarthenshire, Cardiganshire and Old Sarum
• From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Jones
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• JONES, Thomas (by 1492-1558/59), of Abermarlais, Carm. and Haroldston, Pemb.
• b. by 1492, 1st s. of John ap Thomas ap Gruffydd of Abermarlais by Eleanor, da. of Thomas Vaughan of Brodorddyn, Carm. m. (1) Elizabeth, da. of Sir Edward Done of Kidwelly, Carm., 2da.; (2) by 1532, Mary, da. of James Berkeley of Thornbury, Glos., wid. of Thomas Perrot (d.1531) of Haroldston, Pemb., at least 3s. inc. Henry Jones I and Richard 2da. Kntd. ?16 Jan. 1542.1
• From: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/jo...
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• JONES, Sir Thomas (1554-1604), of Abermarlais, Carm.
• b. Feb./Apr. 1554, 1st s. of Sir Henry Jones by his 1st w. Elizabeth, da. of Matthew Herbert of Cogan Pill, Glam. educ. ?Shrewsbury 1562; G. Inn 1568. m. Jane, da. and h. of Rowland Puleston of Caernarvon, 5s. 2da.2 suc. fa. 1586. Kntd. 1584.3
• From: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/jo...
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• Elizabeth HERBERT
• Born: ABT 1545
• Father: Matthew HERBERT
• Mother: Mary GAMAGE
• Married: Henry JONES (b. ABT 1534) (son of Sir Thomas Jones and Mary Berkeley) (m.2 Catherine Morgan) ABT 1565
• Children:
  • 1. Thomas JONES (Sir) (b. ABT 1565) (m. Jane Pulleston)
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/HERBERT4.htm#Elizabeth HERBERT1
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• Mary BERKELEY
• Born: ABT 1480
• Father: James BERKELEY
• Mother: Susan FITZALAN
• Associated with: HENRY VIII TUDOR (King of England)
• Children:
  • 1. Thomas STUKELY
  • 2. John PERROT (Capt. Sir Knight)
• Married 1: Thomas PERROT (Sir Knight) ABT 1527
• Children:
  • 3. Jane PERROT
  • 4. Elizabeth PERROT
• Married 2: Thomas JONES of Llanegwad (Sir) (b. ABT 1492 - d. BEF 26 Jun 1559) (son of John Ap Thomas and Elizabeth Vaughn) (w. of Elizabeth Dunn) ABT 1532
• Children:
  • 5. James JONES (b. ABT 1532) (m. Anne Thomas)
  • 6. Henry JONES (Sir) (b. ABT 1534 - d. 1586) (m.1 Elizabeth Herbert - m.2 Catherine Morgan)
  • 7. Catherine JONES (b. ABT 1535) (m. Thomas Vaughan)
  • 8. Son JONES
  • 9. Son JONES
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/BERKELEY1.htm#Mary BERKELEY1
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• Catherine MORGAN
• Born: ABT 1548, Llanrhymny, Monmouth, England
• Father: Rowland MORGAN (Sir Knight)
• Mother: Blanche JONES
• Married 1: Thomas MATHEW (Sir) (b. ABT 1537)
• Married 2: Henry JONES (b. ABT 1534) (son of Sir Thomas Jones and Mary Berkeley) (w. of Elizabeth Herbert) ABT 1570
• Children:
  • 6. William JONES (b. ABT 1570)
• Married 3: Miles MORGAN ABT 1571, Machen, Glamorgan, Wales
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Catherine MORGAN1
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• A history of the family of Morgan, from the year 1089 to present times ([1902?])
• https://archive.org/details/historyoffamilyo00morg
• https://archive.org/stream/historyoffamilyo00morg#page/15/mode/1up
• Pg.15
• XIV. ROWLAND MORGAN of Machen, 1517-77, married Blanch, daughter of John Thomas of Llanarth. Settlement 11 Nov. 1517; sheriff 1557. Issue: 1. Thomas, 2. Henry, whence MORGAN OF ST. MELLON'S. 3. Catherine, married 1st Thomas Mathew, 2d Miles Morgan, 3d Henry Jones. 4. Ann, married Philip Morgan of Gwern-y-Cieppa. 5. Mary, married Thomas Lewis of Rhiwperra. 6. Elizabeth, married Edward Kemeys of Cefn Mably.
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Henry Johns Compact Disc #94 Pin #324916 Pedigree

Sex:  M  

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Event(s)

Birth:   abt 1535 

Abermarlais, Llangadog Parish, Carmarthenshire, Wales
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Parents

Father:  Thomas Johns     Disc #94     Pin #324919   

Mother: Mary Berkeley Disc #94 Pin #324921
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Marriage(s)

Spouse:  Elizabeth Herbert     Disc #94     Pin #324918  

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Henry Johns Compact Disc #94 Pin #324916 Pedigree

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Birth: abt 1535

Abermarlais, Llangadog Parish, Carmarthenshire, Wales

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Father: Thomas Johns Disc #94 Pin #324919

Mother: Mary Berkeley Disc #94 Pin #324921

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Spouse: Elizabeth Herbert Disc #94 Pin #324918

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Henricus Johnes, knight1 and Elizabeth Herbert1 we married January 26, 1553. Henricus was the eldest son of Sir Thomas Joanes of Haroldston and Mary Berkeley. Elizabeth Herbert1 was the daughter of Mathew Herbert of Swansea and Mary Gamage. Henricus1 was knighted and a knight of war before 1574. In 1574 and 1584 he, Knight of Abermarlais, was the High Sheriff of Carmathen. In 1580 “Sir Henry Johnes”, knight of Abermarlais, was Sheriff of Breckonshire. He married second, Eleanor Somerset and third, Elizabeth Salusbury. He resided in Abermarlais and Castlell Newydd (New Castle Emlyn ).

Henricus Johnes1 and Elizabeth Herbert1 had the following children: 1. Thomas Johnes2, Esquire and knight 2 married Jane Pauleston. Thomas2 died Marchh 7, 1604. He was the elder and ‘only’ son of Henricus Johnes1 and Elizabeth Herbert1. Thomas Johnes, Esquire, of Harroldston, afterwards of Abermarlais was the High Sheriff of Pembroke in 1588 , High Sheriff of Carmarthen in 1589 and 1603 , High Sheriff of Cardigan in 1602 and a Member of Parliament for Carmarthen. He resided at Camlyn Castle, Abermarlais, Castlell Newydd Emlyn, and Haroldston.

References:

Nicholas, Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, vol. 1 p. 181

Bradney, History of Monmouthshire, vol. 1 p. 408

Rowland, Pedigree of the Ancient Family of Dolau Cothi, p. 16

Nicholas, Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, vol. 2 p. 882

Nicholas, Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, vol. 1 p. 274

Nicholas, Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, vol. 1 p. 181

Rowland, Pedigree of the Ancient Family of Dolau Cothi, p. 16

Johnes Genealogy - Descendants of Henry Johnes, Burgess of Bergen 1611. In St. John Genealogy by Suzanne St. John (forthcomming 2014).

Further sources:

1.[S2410] #1105 Genealogies of the Carmarthenshire Sheriffs from 1539-1913 (1910-1913), Buckley, James, (2 volumes. Carmarthen: W. Spurrell, 1910-1913), FHL book 942.98 D2b., p. 6, 34.

2.[S2436] #4569 Welsh Genealogies AD 1400-1500 (1983), Bartrum, Peter C. (Peter Clement), (18 volumes, with supplements containing additions and corrections. Aberystwyth: National Library of Wales, 1983), FHL book 942.9 D2bw., vol. 1 p. 58; vol. 4 p. 639, 647*, 648; vol. 7 p. 1193; vol. 9 p. 1455; vol. 10 p. 1615.

3.[S2434] #2105 Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between the Years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn (1846), Dwnn, Lewys; transcribed and edited with notes by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, (2 volumes. Llandovery: William Rees, 1846), FHL book 942.9 D23d; FHL microfilm 176,668., vol. 1 p. 20, 89, 98*, 134, 165, 189*, 191, 211, 222, 333; vol. 2 p. 26*, 27, 30, 58*, 151.

4.[S2411] #11915 British Genealogy (filmed 1950), Evans, Alcwyn Caryni, (Books A to H. National Library of Wales MSS 12359-12360D. Manuscript filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1950), FHL microfilms 104,355 and 104,390 item 2., book 1 p. 4a, 7a*, 13, 37, 46*, 49, 86, 107, 156*, 261; book 2 p. B3, 23*; book 3 p. C118; book 4 p. D62; book 6 p. F10; book 8 p. H67.

5.[S2420] #11886 The Golden Grove books of pedigrees (filmed 1970), (Manuscript, National Library of Wales manuscript number Castell Gorfod 7. Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1950), FHL microfilms 104,349-104,351., book 2 p. A140, 142*, 175; book 5 p. C662; book 6 p. D778; book 9 p. G1163; book 20 p. 92, 101*, 102*; book 21 p. 124, 161, 180.

6.[S2435] #1875 Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales: Containig a Record of All Ranks of the Gentry, Their Lineage, Alliances ... (1875), Nicholas, Thomas, (2 volumes. London: Longmans, Green, Reeder, 1875.), FHL microfilm 454,040 item 1., vol. 1 p. 180, 273; vol. 2 p. 882.

7.[S4923] Pedigree of the Ancient Family of Dolau Cothi, Rowland, John, (Microreproduction of original published: Carermarthen : William Spurrell, 1877. vi. 23 p. Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1982), FHL BRITISH Fiche [6024300]., p. 14*, 15, 18, 19.

8.[S2420] #11886 The Golden Grove books of pedigrees (filmed 1970), (Manuscript, National Library of Wales manuscript number Castell Gorfod 7. Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1950), FHL microfilms 104,349-104,351., book 5 p. C662.

9.[S2434] #2105 Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between the Years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn (1846), Dwnn, Lewys; transcribed and edited with notes by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, (2 volumes. Llandovery: William Rees, 1846), FHL book 942.9 D23d; FHL microfilm 176,668., vol. 2 p. 30.

10.[S2434] #2105 Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between the Years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn (1846), Dwnn, Lewys; transcribed and edited with notes by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, (2 volumes. Llandovery: William Rees, 1846), FHL book 942.9 D23d; FHL microfilm 176,668., vol. 2 p. 26.

11.[S2434] #2105 Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between the Years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn (1846), Dwnn, Lewys; transcribed and edited with notes by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, (2 volumes. Llandovery: William Rees, 1846), FHL book 942.9 D23d; FHL microfilm 176,668., vol. 2 p. 58.

12.[S2436] #4569 Welsh Genealogies AD 1400-1500 (1983), Bartrum, Peter C. (Peter Clement), (18 volumes, with supplements containing additions and corrections. Aberystwyth: National Library of Wales, 1983), FHL book 942.9 D2bw., vol. 4 p. 647.

13.[S2411] #11915 British Genealogy (filmed 1950), Evans, Alcwyn Caryni, (Books A to H. National Library of Wales MSS 12359-12360D. Manuscript filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1950), FHL microfilms 104,355 and 104,390 item 2., book 1 p. 13, 49, 96; book 2 p. B23; book 8 p. H67.

14.[S2420] #11886 The Golden Grove books of pedigrees (filmed 1970), (Manuscript, National Library of Wales manuscript number Castell Gorfod 7. Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1950), FHL microfilms 104,349-104,351., book 21 p. 180.

15.[S2434] #2105 Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between the Years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn (1846), Dwnn, Lewys; transcribed and edited with notes by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, (2 volumes. Llandovery: William Rees, 1846), FHL book 942.9 D23d; FHL microfilm 176,668., vol. 2 p. 27.

16.[S2434] #2105 Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between the Years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn (1846), Dwnn, Lewys; transcribed and edited with notes by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, (2 volumes. Llandovery: William Rees, 1846), FHL book 942.9 D23d; FHL microfilm 176,668., vol. 1 p. 333.

17.[S2420] #11886 The Golden Grove books of pedigrees (filmed 1970), (Manuscript, National Library of Wales manuscript number Castell Gorfod 7. Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1950), FHL microfilms 104,349-104,351., book 2 p. A175; book 9 p. G1163.

18.[S2410] #1105 Genealogies of the Carmarthenshire Sheriffs from 1539-1913 (1910-1913), Buckley, James, (2 volumes. Carmarthen: W. Spurrell, 1910-1913), FHL book 942.98 D2b., p. 6.

19.[S2420] #11886 The Golden Grove books of pedigrees (filmed 1970), (Manuscript, National Library of Wales manuscript number Castell Gorfod 7. Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1950), FHL microfilms 104,349-104,351., book 2 p. A140, 142.

20.[S2434] #2105 Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between the Years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn (1846), Dwnn, Lewys; transcribed and edited with notes by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, (2 volumes. Llandovery: William Rees, 1846), FHL book 942.9 D23d; FHL microfilm 176,668., vol. 1 p. 89, 98, 134, 165, 189, 191, 211, 222.

21.[S2436] #4569 Welsh Genealogies AD 1400-1500 (1983), Bartrum, Peter C. (Peter Clement), (18 volumes, with supplements containing additions and corrections. Aberystwyth: National Library of Wales, 1983), FHL book 942.9 D2bw., vol. 4 p. 647.

22. There are (by August 2016) Five confirming AutosomalDNA matches for Jan Kyrre Berg Olsen Friis through paternal line of Norwegian descendants of Welsh ancestors Henry Johnes/Jones and Elisabeth Herbert1 to Jan Kyrre Berg Olsen Friis:

1. Elizabeth Herbert1 (wife of Sir Henry Johnes1, mother of Sir Thomas Johnes2)

2. Elizabeth Herbert1 (wife of Sir Henry Johnes1, mother of Sir Thomas Johnes2)

3. Elisabeth Herbert2 (wife of Henry “Henricus” Johnes2 (Henrick Joennssenn, Engelst.)), mother of John Johnes)

4. Jane Pauleston (Wife of Sir Thomas Johnes2, mother of Henry “Henricus” Johnes2 ("Henrick Joennssenn, Engelst."))

5. Barbra Justsdatter (wife of Hans Jonssen, mother of Jon Hansen (b. 1697), Jon is the grandson of John Johnes).