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John Dalton, Kt.

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Dalton, Lancashire, England
Death: circa 1369 (44-53)
Bispham, Lancashire, England
Immediate Family:

Son of Sir Robert Dalton, Knight and Mary de Lathom
Husband of Alice Dalton; Jane Bispham; Margery de Poynings and Isnania de Hackensaw
Father of Sir John Dalton, II, Knight; Maud Dalton; Thomas Dalton; Robert Dalton; Nichelas Dalton and 2 others
Brother of Jennet Dalton and William Dalton

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About Sir John Dalton, Kt.

  • Sir John de Dalton1,2,3
  • M, #155006, d. 1369
  • Father Robert de Dalton2 b. c 1285
  • Sir John de Dalton married Margery Poynings, daughter of Sir Michael de Poynings and Margery Bardolf, on 30 March 1347; Forcibly carried off [from Beaumes Manor, Shinfield, Berkshire, England in a raid] and married.1,2,3 Sir John de Dalton died in 1369 at of Bispham, Lancashire, England.1,2
  • Family Margery Poynings d. 20 Mar 1349
  • Citations
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 59-60.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 105-106.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 420.
  • From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p5161.htm#... __________
  • Sir John Dalton1
  • M, #146872, b. circa 1315
  • Father Sir Robert Dalton1 b. c 1290
  • Sir John Dalton was born circa 1315 at of Apthorp, Northamptonshire, England.1
  • Family
  • Child
    • Sir John Dalton+1 b. c 1340
  • Citations
  • [S61] Unknown author, Family Group Sheets, Family History Archives, SLC.
  • From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p4891.htm#... ______________
  • John Dalton1
  • M, #161416, b. circa 1305, d. 1370
  • Father Robert Dalton1 b. c 1279, d. 1354
  • Mother Mary de Latham1 b. c 1282
  • John Dalton was born circa 1305 at Durham, England.1 He married Alice Hussey circa 1327 at England.1 John Dalton died in 1370 at Durham, England.1
  • Family Alice Hussey b. c 1306
  • Child
    • John Dalton+1 b. c 1329, d. 1389
  • Citations
  • [S11597] Ancestry.com, Submitted by robertluther1963.
  • From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p5374.htm#... ___________
  • The Visitations of Yorkshire in the Years 1563 and 1564: Made by William ... By William Flower
  • https://books.google.com/books?id=pjMEAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA394&lpg=PA394&d...
  • https://archive.org/details/visitationsyork00britgoog
  • https://archive.org/stream/visitationsyork00britgoog#page/n97/mode/1up
  • Pg.85
    • Dalton.
  • Sir Rychard Dalton of Byspam in Lancashyre, Knight. = ; ch: Sir Robert (m. . . . Latham), Sir John (2 son.) Dalton
    • Sir John Dalton Knight 2 son. ; ch: B (Pg.86 Sir Pyter Dalton Knight. = . . . . doughter of . . . . ; ch: John Dalton.)
    • Sir Robert Dalton son & heyre of Sir Rychard Dalton Knight. = . . . . doughter of Sir Thomas Latham. ; ch: A (Pg.86 Sir John (m. . . . . Hussey) Dalton)
      • https://archive.org/stream/visitationsyork00britgoog#page/n98/mode/1up
      • Sir John Dalton Knight. = . . . . doughter of Sir Henry Hussey Knight. ; ch: Sir John (m. . . . . Pylkyngton.) Dalton
        • Sir John Dalton Knight son & heyre to Sir John. = . . . . doughter of Sir Rychard Pylkngton. ; ch: Sir Rychard (m. Kateren Venables), Robert (m. Margaret . . . . ) Dalton.
          • Sir Rychard Dalton Knight son & heyr to Sir John. = Kateren doughter of Sir Thomas Venables, Knight. ; ch: Ales (m. William Gryffyth), other doters Dalton
            • Ales doter of Sir Rychard Dalton. = William Gryffyth of Penryn in Carmarthenshyre. ; ch: Sir William, Jennet Gryffyth.
          • Robert Dalton of Bispayne, 2nd son. = Margaret doughter of . . . . ; ch: William (m. Elsabeth Beaconsall), John (3rd son.), Rychard (m. doughter of Fleming) Dalton
            • .... etc. _________________
  • Margery De POYNINGS
  • Born: ABT 1298
  • Died: AFT 30 Mar 1347
  • Father: Michael De POYNINGS (Sir Knight)
  • Mother: Margery De AGUILLON
  • Married 1: Edmund BACON (Sir)
  • Children:
    • 1. Margery BACON
  • Married 2: John De DALTON (Sir Knight)
  • From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/POYNINGS.htm#Margery De POYNINGS1 _______________
  • URSWYK, Sir Robert (c.1336-1402), of Tatham, Lancs. and Badsworth, Yorks.
  • b.c.1336, s. and h. of Adam Urswyk (d.1361) of Strickland Ketel, Westmld. by Sarah, da. and h. of Robert Tatham of Tatham and Over Kellet, Lancs. m. (1) by 1367, Margaret, da. and h. of Thomas Southworth of Upper Rawcliffe, wid. of Robert Hornby† (d.c.1363) of Middleton, 1s.; (2) by 1372, Ellen (fl. 1394), wid. of Sir John Dalton† (d.1369) of Dalton, Yorks., and Bispham, Lancs., at least 1s. Thomas*, 2da.; (3) by July 1398, Joan. Kntd. by 28 Oct. 1386.1
  • Offices Held
    • Master forester of Amounderness, Quernmore and Wyresdale, and forester of Myerscough, Lancs. for John of Gaunt, duke of Lancaster, 5 Sept. 1374-c. Feb. 1399, then for Hen. IV c. Oct. 1399-d.; chief steward of Lanes. for Gaunt 1392-3.2
    • Commr. of oyer and terminer, Lancs. Feb. 1382, Mar. 1383, 1384 (trespasses in Gaunt’s forests); array Feb. 1384, Mar. 1400; to recruit archers to fight with Gaunt in Spain Mar. 1386;3 of inquiry, Yorks., Cumb., Westmld., Lanes. May 1388 (wastes at St. Leonard’s hospital, York), Lancs. July 1391 (trespass);4 to make arrests Aug. 1396; prevent the spread of treasonous rumours May 1402.
    • Escheator, Lancs. 8 Apr. 1383-bef. 6 Oct. 1388, by 22 Mar. 1389-1 Dec. 1391.5
    • J.p. Lancs. 18 Mar. 1384, 15 Aug. 1393-July 1394, 16 Mar. 1400-d.6
    • Collector of pontage for the repair of Preston bridge, Lanes. 12 Mar. 1400-d.
  • .... etc.
  • Robert’s growing influence at Court is evident from the regularity with which, from 1370 onwards, he intervened as a member of the royal household to secure pardons for Lancashire men convicted of murder. At least six such documents were issued at his behest, for as an esquire of the body to Edward III (being, moreover, from 1371 onwards in receipt of a second annuity of £20, payable for life) he commanded considerable reserves of patronage on his own account.8 The death of his first wife left Robert free to contract an even more advantageous marriage with Ellen, the widow of Sir John Dalton, whose murder, in 1369, had left her seised of the widow’s customary third of substantial estates in Bispham and Dalton. Later, in 1377, she and Urswyk obtained a grant of the farm of the rest of Sir John’s property, for which they agreed to pay £20 a year until his young son came of age; and it appears, too, that Ellen enjoyed a life interest in the manor of Little Hoole, settling it on feoffees about then in return for an annual rent of ten marks. This buoyant stage in Urswyk’s career marks the beginning of a close association with another of King Edward’s sons, John of Gaunt, duke of Lancaster, which was to last until the latter’s death over 20 years later. It is, indeed, worth noting that both his first wife, Margaret Southworth, and her successor came from families closely attached to the duke, who must already have known Robert for some time. .... etc.
  • .... etc.
  • .... Although well advanced in years, Sir Robert still possessed considerable energy, for in addition to his administrative duties he was also preoccupied with three important lawsuits. One concerned the render of debts owed to the late Richard Molyneux, who had made him his executor, but the others were for the recovery of sums claimed by him personally from John Radcliffe of Ordsall and his own stepson, John Dalton. The latter, who had reputedly failed to honour a bond in £100, outstanding for the previous 16 years, claimed that both the sheriff, Sir John Boteler, and the coroner, Robert Laurence*, were partial to Sir Robert because he was their kinsman, and that it was thus impossible for him to obtain a fair trial at the Lancaster assizes. In the event, however, Sir Robert’s death, in the late September of 1402, brought an end to litigation and Dalton escaped a reckoning.12
  • Sir Robert left two sons — Robert (d.1420), who succeeded him not only in his estates but also in the master forestership of Amounderness, Quernmore and Wyresdale, and Thomas, another devoted servant of the Lancastrian regime. His widow, Joan, survived him to enjoy possession of the jointure which had been conveyed to her four years earlier.13
  • From: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/ur... ____________________
  • Margery Poynings
  • (c.1310-1349)
  • 'Lady De La Beche of Aldworth'
  • Born: circa 1310
  • Died: 1349
  • Margery was the daughter of Michael, Lord De Poynings. She was first married to Edmund Bacon, of Essex, who was descended from Sir John Bacon of Ewelme (Oxfordshire). She held the Manor of Hatfield Peverall, which Edward II had granted to Edmund Bacon in fee in 1310, for the term of her life, 'partly of the King and partly of the Earl of Hereford by homage, and the third part of a knight's fee and two pairs of gilt spurs of twelve pence price.' And she also held Cressing Hall or Cressinges, Essex.
  • By her first husband, Margery had one daughter, Margery Bacon, born 1337, who married, in 1352, William De Molynes, son of Sir John De Molynes, and she had also a step-daughter Margaret Bacon - daughter of Edmund Bacon, by his first wife Joan De Braose - who married William, 2nd Baron Kerdeston, of Norfolk.
  • As her second husband, Margery married Nicholas, Lord De La Beche of Aldworth (Berkshire) in 1339. They had no children and Nicholas died in 1345. To Margery, he left his castle of Beaumys, in Swallowfield, amongst other lands. Margery must have been still quite young and she was still a great heiress. Consequently, she was exposed to the designs of many suitors and, the following year, we find her mentioned as the wife of both Thomas D'Arderne and Gerard De L'Isle. And again, that same year, Lady Margery De La Beche was carried off and forcibly married to Sir John De Dalton. Very possibly the black death, which was raging this year, may have cut off Thomas D'Arderne and Gerard de L'Isle within a few months of each other.
  • John De Dalton was son of Robert De Dalton, a large landowner in Lancashire. Accompanied by many lawless friends, amongst whom were Henry De Tildersley, Hugh Fazakerley, Sir Thomas Dutton, Sir Edmund De Mauncestre and William Trussell (the latter had the Manor of Wokefield, Berkshire, so that he was a near neighbour of Beaumys), on Good Friday, 7th April 1347, before dawn, John De Dalton and his companions broke into the Castle of Beaumys and carried off Margery, Lady De La Beche, and many other prisoners. They killed Michael Poynings, uncle to Lady Margery, as also Thomas the Clerk of Shipton, and frightened Roger Hunt, the domestic chaplain, to death. Goods and chattels were also stolen to the value of £1,000. In consequence of this assault, a writ was directed to the Sheriff of Lancashire to arrest John De Dalton and all his accomplices and commit them to the Tower of London. On the same day, John D'Arcy, Keeper of the Tower, was commanded to receive Sir John De Dalton, his companions and Robert, his father. A precept was also issued to the Sheriffs of Berkshire and other counties to seize, into the King's hands, all the lands, goods and chattels of the said Margery. Thomas De Litherland, the Prior of Buscogh, Tildersleigh and Dutton, were tried and convicted at the summer assizes for Wiltshire, holden before William De Thorpe, Chief Justice of England, and others, but were pardoned on 28th November following.
  • At the same time, we read, in 1347, of John, 3rd Baron De St. John, upon the death of his mother, 'being so infirm that he could not come to the King to do his homage, had respite thereof and livery of those she held in dower.' He died on 8th April 1349, leaving, by his wife Katherine, daughter of Geoffrey De Say, who succeeded him and who was then twenty years of age. In a roll of 1348, we find an order for the sale of woods "pertaining to Margery who was wife of Nicholas De La Beche, ore la femme Johan, son of Robert De Dalton, by reason of the forfeiture of the said John for treasons and felonies." The said Lady Margery died this same year, 'seised of Swallowfield.'
  • From: http://www.britannia.com/bios/ladies/mpoynings.html ______________
  • Beaumys Castle, also known as Beams Castle, was a 14th-century fortified manor house in the parish of Swallowfield in the English county of Berkshire.
  • Beaumys Castle was a manor in the parish of Swallowfied, given to Sir Nicholas de la Beche in 1335.[1] De la Beche received a licence to crenellate in 1338 and produced a fortified manor house.[2] The castle was rectangular, protected by earthworks approximately 130m by 110m across, surrounded by a water-filled moat, with the castle accessed from an entrance to the north-west.[3]
  • De la Beche died, leaving the manor to his wife Margery, who in turn remarried,[2] to Thomas Arderne.[4] On Arderne's death in 1347, however, John de Dalton and a small group of followers broke into the castle, where they killed Michael de Poynings, an important nobleman; terrified Lionel, the son of Edward III who was staying there at the time; stole £1,000 worth of goods, and seized Margaret, whom, as a wealthy widow, was forced to marry John.[4][5]
  • The surrounding manor was broken up in 1420; the surviving earthworks are a scheduled monument.[6]
  • From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumys_Castle ______________
  • The Paston Family in the Fifteenth Century: Volume 1, The First Phase By Colin Richmond
  • https://books.google.com/books?id=okEq7Lj1sloC&pg=PA47&lpg=PA47&dq=...
    • 118 John de Dalton 'raped' and married her: CIPM Edward III,X. p. 77. For this reference and for many more which follow I am indebted to Terry Simmons, 'Paston v. Moleyns: the Case of Gresham', unpublished BA dissertation, Keele University, 1980. For the Moleynses of the fourteenth century, see CP. IX, pp. 36ff.
    • 119 CIPM Edward III, X. pp. 77-8 (the government was obliged to make an example of him: pp. 262-7); CCR 1349-1354, p. 450; H.A. Napier, Historical Notices of the Prishes of Swyncombe and Ewelme (London, 1858), pp. 21-4. This seems to have been an 'inside job': royal officers making a raid on a royal ward. Margery Poynings was Sir Edmund Bacon's second wife and the mother of Margery who married William Moleyns (CIPM Edward III, XI, pp. 11, 13); for the escheator Michael Poynings' marriage to William Moleyns' elder brother John's widow, see CCR 1369-74, pp. 47, 60, 175. .... etc. _________________
  • Memoranda concerning the family of Bispham in Great Britain and the United States of America by Bispham, William, 1838- comp
  • https://archive.org/details/memorandaconcern00inbisp
  • https://archive.org/stream/memorandaconcern00inbisp#page/n70/mode/1up
  • The Genealogie and descent of the worshipfull Samuel Bispham of Billinge, in the County of Lancaster, Esq.: Colected out of evidence and other Authentick matter of record, by Sr. Henry St. George, Kt. Norroy Kinge of Armes, A'no 1640.
  • .... etc.
  • Sir Henry Bispham Lo. of Bispham Kt. t. E. 2. ; ch: Jane (m. Sr. John Dalton) Bispham
    • Jane, da. & heyre married Sr. John Dalton Kt. 40 E. 3. ; ch: Sir John (m. Agnes Radclife) Dalton
      • Sir John Dalton of Bispham, Kt., mar. Agnes dau. to Rob't de Radclife. ; ch: (Pg.n71 John Dalton, Esquier)
        • https://archive.org/stream/memorandaconcern00inbisp#page/n71/mode/1up
        • John Dalton of Bispham Esquire, had yssue. ; ch: Sir Richard (m. Isabell Stanley) Dalton
          • Sir Richard Dalton of Bispham Kt. mar. Isabell dau. to Jo. de Stanley Kt. ; ch: Alice (m. William Griffith) Dalton
            • Alice d. & heyre mar. William Griffith of Pentryn in the County of Carnarvon.
  • .... etc.
  • https://archive.org/stream/memorandaconcern00inbisp#page/55/mode/1up
  • [The Sir John Dalton, Knight, mentioned in the Pedigree as having married Jane the daughter and heir of Sir Henry Bispham, Lord of Bispham in the 40th year of Edward III. was according to "Burke's Commoners" the "son of Sir Robert de Dalton, living in the reign of Edward III. and died in 1369, seised of the manors of Bispham, Dalton Hall, and other lands in the County of Lancaster. He was direct ancestor of Robert Dalton Esq. of Bispham and Billinge, who acquired by purchase in 1556 the Manor and Estate of Thurnham. This family is now known as Dalton of Thurnham." — Ed.]
  • F. Sir William Molineux of Sefton by deed dated 40 E. 3. [1366] gave to Jo. de Dalton, a yearly rent of XX Marks out of his land in Ellhall dated at Bispham. This sheweth the sayd Sr. Jo. Dalton who married Bispham's heyre then to live at the Manor of Bispham, the heyre generall of
  • https://archive.org/stream/memorandaconcern00inbisp#page/56/mode/1up
  • this family of Dalton married to Griffith of Pentryn as by Dalton and Griffith's Pedigreys appereth.
  • .... etc.
  • https://archive.org/stream/memorandaconcern00inbisp#page/72/mode/1up
  • .... or till the reign of King Edward the 3d. when Jane the daughter and heir of Sir
  • https://archive.org/stream/memorandaconcern00inbisp#page/73/mode/1up
  • Henry Bispham Lord of Bispham was married to Sir John Dalton Knt. who in a deed dated at Bispham in the 40th year of Edward the 3d levied as "Lord of Bispham jure uxoris."
  • .... etc. ________________
  • The John Dalton book of genealogy by Dalton, Mark Ardath
  • https://archive.org/details/johndaltonbookof00dalt
  • https://archive.org/stream/johndaltonbookof00dalt#page/25/mode/1up
    • PEDIGREE OF DALTON FAMILY
    • compiled by JOHN LUCHER DALTON 1889
  • https://archive.org/stream/johndaltonbookof00dalt#page/26/mode/1up ______________
  • Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, 2nd Edition ...
  • https://books.google.com/books?id=kjme027UeagC&pg=PA161&lpg=PA161&d...
  • Pg.65
  • Pg.258 ______________
  • Notes and Queries
  • https://books.google.com/books?id=EJtDAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA46&lpg=PA46&dq=...
  • Pg.46 ______________
  • Edward III and the English Peerage: Royal Patronage, Social Mobility, and ... By James Bothwell
  • https://books.google.com/books?id=-NV_UXqVRakC&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=...
  • Pg.59 ____________________
  • 'Dalton01'
  • Sir Richard Dalton of Bypsam, Lancashire
    • 1. Sir Robert Dalton
    • m. _Latham (dau of Sir Thomas Latham)
      • A. Sir John Dalton
      • m. _ Hussey (dau of Sir Henry Hussey)
        • i. Sir John Dalton
        • m. _ Pilkington (dau of Sir Richard Pylkyngton)
          • a. Sir Richard Dalton 'of Apethorpe'
          • m. Katherine Venables (dau of Sir Thomas Venables)
            • (1) Ales Dalton
            • m. William Gryffyth of Penryn
            • (2)+ other daughters
          • b. Robert Dalton of Bispayne
          • m. Margaret
            • (1) Richard Dalton of Croston
            • m. _ Fleming (dau of Sir William Fleming of Wath, Yorkshire)
              • (A) Roger Dalton of Dalton Hall
              • m1. _ Ratclyff (dau of Sir John Ratclyff of Lancashire)
                • (i) William Dalton of Bispam
                • m1. Margaret Terboke (dau of Sir William Terboke of Terboke Hall)
                  • (a) Margery Dalton (dsp)
                  • m1. _ Wenloke
                  • m2. Gylbert Moreton
                  • (b)+ other issue (dsp) - Robert, Roger, Jane, 8 others
                • m2. Jane (natural daughter of Sir John Towneley of Lancashire)
                  • (m) Robert Dalton of Bispham, Pillin and Thurnham (dsp 1580)
                  • m. Anne Kechyn (dau of John Kechyn)
                  • Visitation ends with this generation, identifying Robert as "of Thurnham". This is presumed to be the Robert who is the first mentioned by Commoners, being described therein as "of Bishpam and Pilling, who acquired by purchase, in 1556, the manor and estate of Thurnham" and who was succeeeded by his nephew.
                  • (n) Thomas Dalton
                  • m. Anne Molyneux (dau of Sir Richard Molyneux of Sefton)
                    • ((1)) Robert Dalton of Thurnham (d 1626)
                    • This is probably the Robert who married Elizabeth Hulton.
                      • ((A)) Thomas Dalton of Thurnham (d after Newbury 1643)
                        • ((i)) Robert Dalton of Thurnham
                        • m. Elizabeth Horner (dau of Thomas Horner of Middleham)
                          • ((a)) Elizabeth Dalton of Thurnham (d 1710)
                          • m. William Hoghton of Park Hall
                          • Their eldest son inherited Thurnham and took the name Dalton.
                          • ((b)) Dorothy Dalton of Faton and Aldcliffe who apparently married ...
                          • m. Edward Riddell of Swinburne Castle (b 1660, d 1731)
                  • (o) Anne Dalton
                  • m. _ Westmer
                  • (p)+ other issue - Roger, Richard
                • (ii) Roger Dalton (dsp)
                • (iii) Sybell Dalton
                • m. William Wolberd Draper
                  • (a)+ issue (dsp)
              • m2. (sp) _ Standyche
              • m3. (sp) _ Farnygton
              • m4. Jane Jakes (dau of Roger Jakes of Barkemsted and Mawde Shordyche)
                • (iv) Larence Dalton (d 1561)
                • m. Anne Breme (dau of Richard Breme of London)
                • (v) Margaret Dalton
                • m1/2. Richard Fawley of London (fishmonger)
                  • (a)+ issue - Walter, Dorothy
                • m2/1. Thomas Weston of London (taylor)
                  • (c) Jane Weston
                  • m. Andro Roo of London (fat maker)
                  • (d) Margaret Weston
                  • m. Nicholas Collet of London (shoemaker)
                • (vi) Anne Dalton
                • m. Thomas Baker of Barkensted
                  • (a)+ issue - Astwyn, Raff, Ales, Ellyn, Cyssely
                • (vii) Elsabeth Dalton
                • m. Francis Colbarne
                  • (a)+ issue - Jane, Elsabeth
                • (viii) Jane Dalton
                • m1. Richard Not of London ("ale bruer")
                • m2. Robert Vady
                • (ix)+ other issue (dsp) - Henry, Thomas, Thomas, Richard, 3 others
              • (B) Ellen Dalton
            • (2) William Dalton
            • m. Elsabeth Beaconsall of Lancashire
              • (A) Richard Dalton (priest)
              • (B) Anne Dalton
              • m. Seth Worsley of Croston
                • (i)+ issue - John, Anne
            • (3) John Dalton
    • 2. .... etc.
  • Main source(s): Visitation (Yorkshire, 1563-4, Dalton), Commoners (vol i, Dalton of Thurnham)
  • From: Stirnet.com
  • http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/dd/dalton01.php _________________
  • 'Poynings1'
  • .... etc.
  • (i) Sir Michael de Poynings (probably d Bannockburn 24.06.1314)
  • m. (before 08.06.1298) Margery (a 02.1333, possibly a Bardolf)
    • (a) .... etc.
    • (c) Margery de Poynings (b c1310, d 1349) probably of this generation
    • www.berkshire.history.com contains an article on Margery reporting her marriages as follows ...
    • m1. Sir Edmund Bacon of Ewelme
    • m2. (1339, sp) Nicholas, Lord De La Beche of Aldworth (d 1345)
    • m3. (1346) Thomas D'Arderne (d 1346?)
    • m4. (1347) John de Dalton (son of Robert)
  • (ii) .... etc.
  • Main source(s): TCP (Poynings - various), BE1883 (Poynings - various)
  • From: Stirnet.com
  • http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/pp/poynings1.php _______________

http://www.joepayne.org/dalton.htm

THE DALTONS OF LANCASHIRE: A lecture/talk given by Dr. Lucy Joan Slater, Editor and Secretary, Dalton Genealogical Society, Cambridge, England

...The Flower's Visitation of Yorkshire in 1563-4 gave the main pedigree of the Dalton family. It started with Sir Rychard of Byspham born about 1230 and holding the manors of Byspham in Lancashire and Kirkby Misperton in Yorkshire. He had two sons, Sir Robert and Sir John. Sir John held the manor of Kirkby in 1332 and founded the Yorkshire line of Daltons. Sir Robert was born in 1284 and died in 1350.

About 1320, he married Mary, the daughter of Sir Thomas Lathom and she bore him a son, Sir John Dalton. Sir Robert had sided with the Earl of Lancaster who was beheaded in 1322 and Sir Robert was confined to Pontifract Castle for a time. However, his friends raised a ransom for him, so he was released and allowed to go back to his home at Byspham Manor. In 1327, when Edward II came to the throne, the fine was returned to Sir Robert and he was made Keeper of the Royal Forests and then the Constable of the Tower of London.

In the spring of 1346, King Edward prepared to invade France. He assembled the greatest army seen in England up to that date. With the King were his son, Richard the Black Prince, 12 Earls, over 1000 Knights, 4000 esquires, 20,000 archers and an unnumbered host of yeomen, blacksmiths, messengers, masons, cooks, minstrels and other camp followers.

So we can imagine Sir Robert riding from his home in Byspham, clad in his best armour, wearing his plumed helm and carrying his great broad sword, his lance and with his shield in azure blue with the silver lion on his chest. He would be riding his great war horse which would be clad in armour. By his side was his son, Sir John, also in his best armour and behind them an esquire carrying a banner with the full coat of arms embroidered on it, complete with the green Griffen. They were also accompanied by a priest who bore a portable altar and some new winding sheets, just in case things did not go too well. [Winding sheets were burial sheets or palls.] The party rode down through Lancashire gathering more men of arms at every town and joined the Earl of Manchester. Then they brought the French to face them at Crecy, one of the most historical battles of all time. The English had the new technology of the day, bows and arrows, and of course easily won the battle.

All went well with Sir Robert and his son and there must have been many prayers of thankfulness raised when they rode back to Byspham. No doubt their war horses were not so frisky and their coats of arms a bit sullied, but they were alive.

Now we come to one of the wildest deeds ever committed, even by such wild men as the Daltons. After his return from Crecy, Sir John thought it was time he took a wife. He fancied Margery, wife of Gerard de Lisle. She was said to be one of the most beautiful women in England at the time and was rumored to be the mistress of the King's second son, Lionel, who was about 20. She had been married twice before and had inherited a manor near Reading, so she was a rich woman in her own right. On Good Friday, March 31, 1347, John Dalton and six companions attacked the Manor House, killed Margery's uncle and one of her man servants, stole 1000 pounds in gold and other goods, seized her and carried her off to the North. These facts are all recorded in the Court Rolls. One translation of the document says that John Dalton married her that same day. Another version says that ...he had his way with her.... In any case, Lionel was not pleased and his father issued writs against the seven men to be apprehended and put into the Tower. When they could not be caught, old Sir Robert Dalton was taken and imprisoned in their place, in the Tower, where he had once been the Constable. The hue and cry was raised throughout the land, but John and his friends took refuge with friends in Lancashire and were not caught. After a few months, Sir Robert was released.

Six months later, the dreaded Black Death swept through England and the doings of John Dalton were forgotten. Half the population died during the next two years and there were not enough strong men even to bury the dead.

Margery died in 1349 and John went on to do such good service in the wars in France, that he petitioned the King who then pardoned him for the ravishment of Margery. His father, Sir Robert, died in 1350 and John returned home to Byspham Hall where he married a daughter of Sir Henry Hussey, had two sons and died in 1369.

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The History of Sir John Dalton 1st, Knight, born in Byspham, Lancashire Co. England. Compiled and edited by Rodney Dalton.

Sir John Dalton I, was the first son of Sir Robert Dalton, and was of Pykerying and Bispham and was born before 1300 and to whom Sir William de Lacy gave lands called Minister and Bentley Row in 2 Edward III.

Sir John married at least 4 wives;

1 - Margery de Poynings.

2 - Ismania de Hackensall, daughter of William de Hackensall.

3 - Alice or Ellen Hussey, daughter of Sir Henry Hussey, Knight.

4 – Ellen Southworth

When he died in 1369, seized of the Manors of Byspham, Dalton Hall, etc. Sir John and Alice Hussey had three children:

1.John II

2.Jane

3.Robert

Below is the story of how Sir John de Dalton received his land in Lancashire County England.

In the Doomesday Book, Pressoude (Preesall) was listed as one of the manors situated in Amounderness. At that time it contained 6 carucates or about 720 acres of land that could be usefully used for agriculture. Hackensall was not included in the Doomesday Book, although later documents divided the 6 carucates into 5 carucates in Preesall and 1 carucate in Hackensall. In 1094, Roger de Poicterin granted the tithes of Preesall and Stalmine to the church of Saint Martins of See in Normandy for the purpose of sustaining the monks of the monastry of Saint Mary’s at Lancaster.

The next recorded mention of Preesall was in the year 1168 when it was included as one of 25 manors that made up the crown estates in Lancashire which combined to raise £10 upon the marriage of Henry the 2nd’s daughter Matilda. A further collection was made in 1176 when Preesall contributed 1 mark for Henry’s expedition in Normandy. It was then one of 25 manors which had a total of 58 plough teams and a breeding stock of cattle to maintain them; also pigs and sheep sufficient to provide sustenance for the population engaged in tilling the land.

As part of Amounderness, it would appear that Preesall remained part of the crown estates until the death of Henry the 2nd. in 1189. But after Henry’s death, his son John, Count of Mortain, held Amounderness, until he forfeited it in 1194 by rebelling against his brother, Richard the Lionheart, who was then the king.

In 1254 John de Hackensall and five other knights in Lancashire were designated those who held property to the value of £20, but upon the death of John in 1262 the manor of Preesall and Hackensall passed to his son Geoffrey. The manor then consisted of what was described as 6 plough lands rather than 6 carucates and we find that this Geoffrey continued the tradition of granting land in the manor to religious establishments. However, between 1278 and 1284, laws were enacted to stop the barons granting their land to monastries; for this was a practice too often carried out so that the lord of the manor could avoid his feudal obligations.

When Geoffrey died in 1284, his wife Amery survived him and the manor passed to his son John who paid a rent of two crossbows to the Earl of Lancaster in 1297.

By the year 1299 it was Richard the son of John who was the lord of the manor and who gave permission to the monks of Furness Abbey the right of common pasture in Preesall and Hackensall ‘at all times of the year for their cattle at Stalmine Grange after corn and hay had been carried’ and also on the 1st. of August 1325, Richard released to the Abbot of Furness all claims to 10 acres in Preesall.

When Richard died in 1331 he was succeeded by his son John for the service of two crossbows and the payment of 40 shillings and in 1335 was alleged to hold the manor and 4 oxgang of land in Preesall. However, this 4 oxgang was presumably the land owned by the descendents of Hugh the Sergeant and one can only assume the document was in error; although the possibility exists of the lords of the manor having started to pay rent for it by then.

This 1335 document also revealed how John settled land on his son William and William’s wife Alice, but this was possibly a marriage settlement; William having married Alice Bradkirk, daughter of John Bradkirk, in that year. It is interesting to discover that the document also recorded another William de Hackensall whose wife was called Ellen and who held 20 acres of land in the manor. One can assume this second William was a descendant of Hugh the Sergeant.

John de Hackensall died in 1346 and in 1357 William granted the manor to John son of Robert Dalton. This also seems to have been a marriage settlement; Ismania, the daughter of William de Hackensall, having married John Dalton in that year. As William and Alice did not have surviving male issue, in 1402 it was Joan the daughter of John Dalton and Ismania his wife, along with Joan’s husband James Pickering, who together inherited the manor.

Thus the manor of Preesall and Hackensall had passed from the de Hackensall family to the Dalton family at some time between 1346 and 1402 and then from the Dalton family to the Pickering family in 1402. When James Pickering died in 1437, it was his son James who inherited the manor. But when this second James Pickering died in 1479, the manor was left to his four daughters and their husbands.

More about Hackensall Manor:

John de Hackensall died in 1346 and in 1357 William granted the manor to John son of Robert Dalton. This also seems to have been a marriage settlement; Ismania, the daughter of William de Hackensall, having married John Dalton in that year. As William and Alice did not have surviving male issue, in 1402 it was Joan the daughter of John Dalton and Ismania his wife, along with Joan's husband James Pickering, who together inherited the manor.

Thus the manor of Preesall and Hackensall had passed from the de-Hackensall family to the Dalton family at some time between 1346 and 1402 and then from the Dalton family to the Pickering family in 1402.

FEUDAL LORDS OF THE MANOR of Preesall with Hackensall

GEOFFREY the ARBALESTIER

Was commonly referred to as Geoffrey the Crossbowman but also known as Sir Geoffrey de Hackensall. He was granted the manor of Preesall and Hackensall at some time between 1191 and 1194. Married twice to Alice and to Eva and died about 1246.

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Sir John de Hackensall married to Amabil

John died about 1262 and was probably buried at Cockersand Abbey.

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Geoffrey de Hackensall married Amery

Geoffrey died about 1284.

John de Hackensall married Maud. John died about 1299.

Richard de Hackensall. Date of death uncertain.

John de Hackensall was alive in 1346.

William de Hackensall married Alice Bradkirk in 1335.

Ismania de Hackensall married John Dalton about 1357.

Joan Dalton married James Pickering of Layton. Inherited the manor in 1402.

(their son) James Pickering inherited the manor, he died in 1479.

Among the possessions of Sir John’s had been the “farm revenue of the town of Apethorp in Northamptonshire, given to him by charter, and was worth £39.19.3d yearly. At the inquest post-mortem upon the death of his father, it is stated that “Sir John Dalton, Knight, his son, aged thirty years or more, is the heir” Sir John by right of inheritance held the Manor of Bispham that has been described as “Dalton Manor” Sir John also held lands in Whittington of the Lord de Coucy, by Knight’s service, and Sir John also added to his possessions by receiving a grant for life of the Manor of Hackinsall in 1357 and the same of Halewood in 1367.

By this time Sir John Dalton has married again and had two little sons, John and Robert. John would grow up an inherited all of his father’s property.

In Sept. of 1369, Sir John Dalton died and his creditors claimed various sums for debt in Wrightington and Billings. His widow was remarried to Robert de Urswick of Upper Rawcliffe. His son, John was only six years old at this time and therefore was not given the rights to Bispham Manor until 1381 when he become 18 years old.

Lets now look at one of the most dramatic incidents in the Dalton annals. It occupies quite a number of entries in the Patent Rolls for March 31 1347. We can obtain a rather complete picture of what happened, and the unhappy consequences to all concerned.

Sir John Dalton’s story starts with what is known as “Sir John’s Raid” This event took place because of something that happened some twenty years in the past. It must be remembered that the constant border forays with the Scots, and the war in France, had accustomed the whole body of English men-at-arms to violent and savage deeds.

This wild and wicked escaped that happened had a precedent some twenty years earlier, when the Earl Warenne of Surrey had abducted the Duke of Lancaster’s bride, Alicia de Lacy and in revenge the Duke burned down his Castle.

Deeds of blood were in the air, but nothing of quite such a scale as Sir John’s affair was

expected to happen in England, and particularly at the time and place concerned.

Mrs. Leaning writes:

"Inasmuch as a scandalous outcry prevails everywhere among the people and very grievous complaint has been made to the king that John de Dalton, "chevaler"; Robert de Holand, "chevaler"; Thomas de Ardern "chivaler"; Matthew de Haydok, "chevaler"; Edmund de Marncestre, "chevaler"; and others by force ravished Margery de la Beche, united in lawful matrimony to Gerard del Isle, on the holy day of Good Friday, before the dawn, at her manor at Beaumes by Redying, where the king's son, Lionel, was then staying, within the verge of the Marshalsea of the household of the said keeper, and abducted her against her will whither they would, without reverence for God, Holy Church, or the king, and to the terror of the said keeper and the rest of the king's children then with him there, and all in those parts, and are now running to and fro that they may not be brought to justice for the felony; the king has appointed the said Gerard to arrest the said persons and all others who shall be indicted of the felony wherever found and bring them before the Council, and because Gerard fears bodily harm in the execution of the appointment from the said evil-doers, who are plotting to do him all the evil which

they can, he has granted special license for him all those of his company to go armed for their self defense. Further, he has taken him and his men and servants into his special protection and safe conduct while executing the premises"

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It is evident here that the six rampaging knights, all from the North of England and under the leadership of John de Dalton had planned this rain upon Beaumes. Of them all, only John de Dalton and Gerard del Isle (or de I'isle) had been in France together. From the expression "plotting to do him all the evil which they can" it looks as though there had been some sort of quarrel between them which, Sir John had determined to revenge.

A careful study of each of the family names concerned shows it was probably only younger sons involved in the kidnapping. For instance, Sir Thomas de Holand had been in France but not (the younger) Sir Robert; three of the Ardernes, but not (the younger) Thomas; two of the Haydoks, but not (the younger) Matthew. As for William Trussel, son of John Trussel, it is difficult to believe, but he was the Judge who had been elected to deal with the great Dispencers, however, it is possible that these are two separate men. De Mamcestre is not heard of except in this raid.

Margery de la Beche is the central figure. If a quarrel abroad were not the key to the concern, we might surmise that John had at some time seen her and wished to make her his own bride. But there is a difficulty here, for Margery had been born a Poynyngs; she had been married first to an Edmund Bacoun or Bacon, who died in 1336. In the year following, she married, secondly, Nicholas de la Beche. He was the youngest of three brothers, two of who figure among the knights of Edward 1, and had very honorable records. One of them, Philip, had been a prisoner at Pontefract with Robert de Dalton, and transferred to Scarborough. He had been Sheriff of Berkshire, Oxfordshire, and Whiltshire, and keeper of Old Sarum Castle. His brother John had been Sheriff of Hants, Notts, and Derby, and Constable of Nottingham Castle; but both being executed in 1329, Nicholas was left heir. He had been Constable of the Tower of London before Sir Robert de Dalton in 1339; and although I have not the date of his death, he must have died in or before 1347, when the raid took place, since Margery is now said to be the lawful wife of Gerard de I'isle. This Gerard was son of Warine de Lisle, governor of Windsor Castle and Keeper of the Forest, summoned to Parliament as Baron de Lisle in this same year.

It was a daring thing, therefore, to seize Margery like this. We can picture that wild ride down into the Midlands, through the night; the attack on the sleeping Manor house; the screams, the clash of arms, the shouting of the retainers and the trampling of the horses, the bloodshed and groans; and as the day broke, the misery and desolation throughout the domain. For not only was Margery gone, but old Michael le Ponyngs uncle lay dead; sodid Thomas le Clerk; and Robert le Hunte, chaplain to Margery, "then lying sick there, for fear of the assault and evil deed presently died." Many another was wounded, also, for "they assaulted her men there, mutilated some so that their life was despaired of, and imprisoned others and took them with them from the county whither so ever they would, taking on themselves the royal power." A further account refers to the breaking of the houses, and adds that the marauders "carried away goods to the value of one thousand pounds." So it was not surprising that Gerard "feared bodily harm" and that the wrong-doers were "running to and fro that they might not be brought to justice."

So to continue we find Sir John Dalton I, with the aid of Baron Robert de Holland and four other Knights, abducting Margery de la Beche from her home, killing her Uncle, a Priest and various servants, terrified some of the Royal children who were staying there and stole valuables worth £1,000. Sir John married the lady the same day and fled northwards to take refuge with the Holland’s at up-Holland.

Now here are the Conspirators:

There were six Knights, all from the north of England and were under the leadership

of Sir John Dalton, Knight, who staged this raid upon Beaumes.

We might surmise that Sir John had at one time, seen Margery de la Beche and wished to make her, his own. It was a daring thing, therefore to abduct Margery like this. There was the wild ride down into the Midlands through the night. The attack on the sleeping Manor house, the clash of arms, the bloodshed as the day broke, for not only was Margery gone but old Michael Ie Ponyings, her uncle was dead, as was many others.

While Sir John was on the run back in Northern England, he hid out in friends Manor’s and farms. Most of these people were arrested and sent off to jail, including his own father, Sir Robert.

The hunt for Sir John failed and also none of his co-conspirators was ever caught. Eventually the hunt for these criminals was dropped, as the King had become extremely busy. He had the war with France to deal with and he couldn’t spare any men to continue

the chase. A second reason may have been because of the onset of the “Black Death” which swept over England as well as the continent and disorganized every thing.

The fate of Margery, Lady de la Beche was not so lucky. After the raid, Sir John married

the lady, and as the wife of an outlaw, the King confiscated her lands. Under the date of Oct. 5th, 1348 we find from the “Patent Rolls: All the great wood in the parks, out-woods, hays, orchards and elsewhere in the Manors and lands, late of Margery, late wife of Nicholas de la Beche, now wife of John Dalton, Knight, were given an assurance that they should not be impeached or disturbed by their heir’s of such sale, in spite of the out-lawery of John Dalton.”

Margery Poynings, born about 1310, died 1349. Also known as 'Lady De La Beche of Aldworth'

Margery was the daughter of Michael, Lord De Poynings. She was first married to Edmund Bacon, of Essex, who was descended from Sir John Bacon of Ewelme (Oxfordshire). She held the Manor of Hatfield Peverall, which Edward II had granted to Edmund Bacon in fee in 1310, for the term of her life, 'partly of the King and partly of the Earl of Hereford by homage, and the third part of a knight's fee and two pairs of gilt spurs of twelve pence price.' And she also held Cressing Hall or Cressinges, Essex.

By her first husband, Margery had one daughter, Margery Bacon, born 1337, who married, in 1352, William De Molynes, son of Sir John De Molynes, and she had also a step-daughter Margaret Bacon - daughter of Edmund Bacon, by his first wife Joan De Braose - who married William, 2nd Baron Kerdeston, of Norfolk.

As her second husband, Margery married Nicholas, Lord De La Beche of Aldworth (Berkshire) in 1339. They had no children and Nicholas died in 1345. To Margery, he left his castle of Beaumys, in Swallowfield, amongst other lands. Margery must have been still quite young and she was still a great heiress. Consequently, she was exposed to the designs of many suitors and, the following year, we find her mentioned as the wife of both Thomas D'Arderne and Gerard De L'Isle. And again, that same year, Lady Margery De La Beche was carried off and forcibly married to Sir John De Dalton. Very possibly the Black Death, which was raging this year, may have cut off Thomas D'Arderne and Gerard de L'Isle within a few months of each other.

After the raid was done, the King ordered for Sir John’s arrest:

His Indictment reads: “In as much as a very grievous complaint has been made to the King that John de Dalton, Robert de Holland, Thomas de Ardern, Matthew de Haydok, William Trussel, Edward de Mamcestre and others, by force, ravished Margery de la Beche, on the Holy day of Good Friday, before dawn, at the Manor of Beaumes, where the King’s son, Lional, Keeper of England was staying, and to the terror of said keeper and the rest of the King’s children, then with him there and all in those parts and are running to and fro, and that they be brought to justice for the felony. The King has appointed the said Gerard to arrest the said persons and all others who shall be indicted of the felony wherever found and bring them before the Kings Council”. The date of the King’s writ was March 31st, 1347 and it is followed on May 10th by a commission to certain Justices of Oyer and Terminer to place in outlawry in the county of Wiltshire, but the hunt being fairly up, John had evidently fled north.

There was meanwhile a rather premature warrant to John Darcy, Constable of the Tower, dated May 1st to receive Sir John de Dalton and 17 other prisoners. Before any of these domestic matters could be attended to, however, the Earl of Lancaster and many others received an urgent summons to join the king as soon as possible, as "the French king is preparing to give battle before Whitsuntide" and the Mayor of London was to have ships and all manner of supplies ready.

In the commission of May 10", the name of Richard de Holand is omitted. The County History comments that in his flight north, Sir John (de Dalton) implicated various entirely innocent persons, by taking refuge temporarily, and without their knowledge, in property belonging to them. Thus, Dame Maud de Holand had a manor in the Hundred of West Derby, which was adjacent to Bispham Manor itself. Gilbert de Haydok's name is now added to the commission, but on June 19th and again on July 7th, he is pardoned, "at the request of divers magnates and others in attendance on the king, testifying that he is wholly innocent of the premises." This is dated from Calais (France), where Edward was busy replacing the French with Englishmen. Another whose name was added was Thomas de Charnels, also pardoned "on testimony by Henry, Earl of Lancaster," and because he was "wholly innocent." The Prior of Burscough, Thomas de Litheriond, had more difficulty in getting free, as it was not until November 28, 1347, that he obtained "six persons of repute" to appear in the Chancery and assert his innocence.

Worst of all, Sir John's father, Sir Robert fell under suspicion, and was actually sent to the Tower, as the following entry informs us:

"July 31. Appointment of Adam de Bispeham to have the custody of the lands and goods of Robert de Dalton, 'chevaler,' now imprisoned in the Tower of London for felony, for such time as these remain in the king's hands on condition that he find sustenance for Robert, his wife and children, out of the said goods during that time. Mandate in pursuance to the Sheriff of Northampton and the escheator there. The like to the sheriff of Lancaster."

The escheator was the official receiver of all forfeited lands in whatever area he was appointed over. Sir Robert owned land in Northamptonshire as well as Lancashire. It must have been exceedingly hard on him in his old age, to come as a prisoner to the Tower, when he had previously been keeper of it. And he was there until May 28th of the following year (1348), as the entry in the Patent Rolls shows:

"May 28th, 1348. Pardon to Robert de Dalton, knight for felonies and trespasses at the Manor of Beaumes by Redying, County Wilts... granted because of his good service to the king for a long time, and because it has been proved that he is guiltless of the principal perpetration of the felonies ... The like to Mary, wife of Robert de Dalton, mutatis mutandis ... By Privy Seal."

It is from the inclusion of his wife's name, extraordinary as that seems that we know that she was called Mary. The name is not given in the pedigree; only the fact that she was of the house of Lathom. The "pardon" was of course followed by the restitution of Sir Robert's lands.

The commission of May 10th, exhaustive as it seemed, had failed to catch the principal offenders, and was followed by another, the third, on June 25th. In this, seven magistrates are ordered to arrest, wherever found, in the County of Lancaster or elsewhere, our seven knights - John de Dalton, always first, William Trussell, Thomas Dardern, Haydok, de Mauncestre, de Charnels, de Dutton, Robert de Dalton 'le cosyn,' Robert, father of John, Sarah Baillop, mother of Robert de Dalton 'le cosyn,' and others. Here was a fine mix-up of the guilty with the guiltless, and a curious reason emerges for the failure to arrest hitherto, for the wrongdoers "are now, as the king is credibly informed, staying in the said County (Wilts), and this by the maintenance and assent of the said commissioners." The justice "William de Thorpe and his fellows" who is named in the commission of May 10 is now omitted; and it is possible that he was either terrorized or bribed by the band, who had the men and the plunder which they had taken from Beaumes, and had found the north too hot for them to stay in.

On July 7th yet another group of justices was appointed, but the list of those indicted has now grown to thirty-one names additional to the earlier, and some of these are clearly "of the baser sort." There is a William Lyndraper, a 'mercer,' a tailor of Loundres, and several of Lancashire places Halewod and Whritthynton. "All these are now staying and are received in divers parts of the realm," and the king orders his commissioners "to follow and arrest all the persons indicted, on pain of forfeiture of all they can forfeit, to do this with all the diligence and solicitude which they can, and charges all sheriffs, mayors, bailiffs, and others to be assisting, obeying, and attending unto them." Even so, the end had not come, for on October 4, quite six months from the commission of the felony, the principal outlaws were still at large, as shown by the further appointment of two justices "to attack the bodies of John de Dalton" and the rest, but there are now included his mother, Mary, two brothers named de Hoicroft, Randolf, parson of the church of Bastelden, and some twelve others. They are no longer to be brought to the Tower, but committed to the custody of the keeper of the Marshalsea prison of the King's Bench.

Whether any of them were ever actually caught the records do not say; for when, after eagerly following entry after entry by means of the excellent index with which all these printed and edited volumes are provided, I found no more reference to the Raid; it

seemed unbelievable. Perhaps the explanation is in the circumstances of the time. The king was extremely busy, and there is a note that the Roll was "made in parts beyond the

seas of the chancery of King Edward III to wit of England the twenty- first and of France the eighth (year) of the time when the same king stood in the siege of the town of Calais." A second reason for the dropping of the pursuit may have been the rapid increase of the terrible scourge of the Black Death, which swept over England as well as the Continent, and disorganized many things.

It already has been noted that Robert de Dalton, after some months imprisonment in the Tower, was restored to freedom; and in the year following he received commission of Oyer and Terminer, together with several others (one of them Henry Haydok) to hear the complaint of Robert de Shirbourn that the Abbot of Cockersand and several others had assaulted him and his servants at Cockerham "whereby he lost the service of the latter for a great time." A fine of forty shillings was the penalty.

On May 4, 1350 an interesting item relating to John appears:

"Pardon to John de Dalton, knight, for good service and because he has humbly submitted himself to the king's grace of the king's suit for the ravishment of Margery" etc. Good service in the wars, it has been remarked, was almost always a sufficient reason for overlooking any crime. Not only was John pardoned, but in June of this same year he received a grant "that he may the better maintain himself in the king's service and for his fee by reason of his stay with the king," of £50 annually.

Among the possessions of Robert de Dalton had been the "farm revenue of the town" of Apethorp in Northamptonshire, given him by charter, and worth £39. 19. 3d. yearly. At the Inquisition post mortem (which was always held after an owner's death), it is stated that John de Dalton, knight, his son, aged thirty years and more, is the heir. The Manor of Bispham has been valued at £22. 8. 4d. a year; and 40 acres in Dalton itself (the Manor) were held of Roger la Warr, Lord of Manchester, in socage, by the rent of 9d. yearly. Bispham was held of Sir William Ferrers by the rent of 3s 4d. Sir John also held lands in Whittington of the Lord de Coucy by knight's service, where the free tenants rendered 43s. 4d. and the tenants at will, for 60 acres, 40s. The Ferrers were one of the most noted families in England, allied to the Despencers, the Poynings, and the Greys, and the villages of Woodham Ferrers in Essex, near Chelmsford, still bear their name. John added to his possessions by receiving or perhaps only renewing, a grant for life of the Manor of Hackinsall, in 1357, and the same of Halewood, in 1367. There were there a house and garden, and 40 acres of land, held of Sir Robert de Holand in socage by 7s. yearly.

John was continuing his fighting career, for there is mention of safe-conducts granted to three men, one of whom, James Penquadyk, was a prisoner of Sir John de Dalton, in July 1359; and in December of the same year is a treaty between Robert Lord Fiennes, Constable of France, and Sir John de Dalton; and a capitulation of him and two others to the Lord of Fiennes, dated from Auxerre.

Another version of “Sir John’s Raid”

Source: Found on the Internet while searching for Sir John Dalton in England.

Moated Beaumys Castle in Berkshire stands next to the A33, just within the bounds of the parish. The original 13th century house was owned by Geoffrey Le Despencer, Lord of Martley in Worcestershire. The moat was dug for his nephew, Hugh Le Despencer, the favourite of Edward II. When disgraced by Queen Isabella in 1322, Hugh fled the court and Mortimer, her lover, raided many Despencer lands including Beaumys. It was later the home of the De La Beche Family. Sir Nicholas rose to the rank of Lord De la Beche and was made Constable of the Tower & Seneschal of Gascony. He oversaw the education of the Black Prince, but died childless in 1345. His widow, Margery, remarried twice in short succession and her husbands are believed to have died of the Black Death. It was while staying at Beaumys with Prince Lionel, and several other children of King Edward III, that this widowed lady was abducted by her lover. Sir John Dalton broke in with sixty-four Berkshire and Lincolnshire squires and made off with, the not so reluctant, Margery to Scotland.

In the year of 1350, on May 3rd, a “Pardon was given to Sir John Dalton, Knight, for good service to the King and because he has humbly submitted himself to the King’s grace for the ravishment of said Margery”. This pardon was for the same reason that Sir John’s father was pardoned. Good service in the war was almost always a sufficient reason for overlooking a crime. In June of the same year, Sir John received a grant, “that he may better maintain himself in the King’s service” and was given 50 pounds annually.

The below story of Sir John de Dalton 1st was copied from a book I found at the LDS

Family History in SLC Utah. Book 942.7 B4lc Vol. 70. This is the book where the original story of this abduction of Margery de la Beche comes from.

Title; Lancashire Inquests, Extents and Feudal Aids.

PART lll. A.D. 1313 – 1355.

JOHN de DALTON, KNIGHT.

August, 1341 - Before William Basset, Thomas de Seton and Roger de Blaykeston, justices, bv the oath of John Flemmyng, chivaler, William de Lee, chivaler, John de Molyneux, chivaler, Alan de Eccleston, John de Dytton, Thomas de Syngleton, Richard de Adburgham, John del Clogh, Robert de Prestecote, Adam de Bredkirk, Robert de Hurleton and William de Heton, who say that on Sunday in the Octaves of Easter, 21 Edward III. John de Dalton, chivaler, Matthew de Havdok, Thomas D'Ardern, chivaler and others unknown, wiih Margery, late the wife of Nicholas de la Beche, came to the manor of Holland, then vacant, which is the manor of dame Matilda de Holand, she being ignorant of their coming, and on Monday next following [9 April] the said John de Dalton married the said dame Margery and they dwelt there until Roger le Archer, sergeant at arms, came into Co. Lancashire, bringing the King's writ to the sheriff to take the said John de Dalton and others and proclaiming that nobody should assist the said John under pain of forfeiture to the King, by virtue whereof John Cokayn sheriff and the said Roger le Archer went to the said manor of Holland to take the said John de Dalton; that the said John and others then left Lancashire and went to Yorkshire where they remained some time; they then returned to Lancashire, but afterwards went away in the night into northern parts where they still live, but in what place or county they are is not known. That on the 29th day of March in the said year, Robert de Dalton, father of the said John de Dalton, had goods and chattels to the value of 40, which immediately after the octave of Easter he took away privately, except the corn growing in the towns of Bispham and Hale, to the value of 100s. He also had lands and tenements in Bispham, Hale and Dalton to the value of 10 marks yearly.

25 June, 1347 - Commission to Gilbert de Suthworth, Matthew de Suthworth, Thomas de Suthworth, Robert de Prestwych, John de Holme, Adam de Wodbury and Richard de Lynales to arrest whenever found in Co. Lancashire or elsewhere the above-named evil-doers.

31 March, 1347 - Order to John de Dalton knt. to have Margery de la Beche, without injury to her person, before Lionel, keeper of England, and the king's council at Westminster, before the quinzaine of Easter at latest.

1 May, 1347 - Order to John Darcy, constable of the Tower of London to receive the above-named evildoers.

19 July, 1347 - Pardon for Gilbert de Haydok, of Co. Lancashire and to Thomas de Charneles, Knt., because of innocent of the said abduction.

31 July, 1347 - Order to supersede the exigent against Robert de Dalton, father of John de Dalton, as he has now come to the king in parts beyond the sea.

The below was copied from the Calendar of the Fine Rolls: Part II extracted by Michael Cayley, DGS Archivist.

Vol VI, Edward III, 1347-1356, pub. HMSO 1921;

2 April 1347, Reading. Order to the sheriff of Lancaster to take into the king’s hands John de Dalton’s lands following the abduction of Margery de la Beche. (Other sheriffs were ordered to seize Margery’s own lands.)

Vol. 8 page 170 - 1358 John son of Robert de Dalton had custody of lands at Borwick belonging to John (son and heir of Ralph de Berwick) who was a minor.

1369 - Sir John de Dalton, who abducted Margery de la Beche, died holding 40 acres in Dalton from Roger la Warr at a rent of 9d a year. Ellen wife of Robert de Urswick was executrix.

1369 - Sir John de Dalton died, holding Bispham from Sir William de Ferrers and others at a rent of 3s 4d: his heir John, a son by a later wife, was then 6. In his settlement he names his wife Ellen (who later married Robert de Urswick of Upper Rawcliffe) and his younger son Robert

1369- Sir John de Dalton held lands in Whittington from the Lords de Coucy for knight's service. The free tenants paid a rent of 43s 4d. The tenants at will paid 40s for 60 acres.

Vol VIII, Edward III, 1368-1377, pub. HMSO 1924: Calendar of the Fine Rolls.

20 Nov 1369, Westminster. Commitment to Ellen late the wife of John de Dalton, ‘chivaler’, of the wardship of two parts of all the lands late of the said John, who held in chief, to hold the same, with the issues thereof since the death of John, until the lawful age of the heir, together wth the marriage of the said heir, rendering at the Exchequer 20l. yearly by equal portions at Easter and Michaelmas for the wardship, and paying 100l in half-yearly installments of 25 marks at Easter and Michaelmas for the marriage; and so from heir to heir.

20 Oct 1369, the escheators of Northampton and Lancaster were ordered to take into the king’s hands the lands of the late John de Dalton, pending an inquisition.

Vol. IX, Richard II, 1377-1383, pub. HMSO 1926: Calendar of the Fine Rolls.

14 Nov 1377, Commitment to Robert de Ursewyk and Ellen, his wife …. of the keeping of two-thirds of all the lands late of John de Dalton, ‘chivaler’, who held in chief, to hold the same from 21 June last until the lawful age of John’s heir, rendering 20l yearly at the exchequer by equal portions at Michaelmas and Easter, maintaining the houses and buildings pertaining to the said two-thirds, and doing all charges incumbent thereon.

Sir John Dalton 1st, to whom Sir William de Lacy gave lands called Minister and Bentley Row in 2 Edward III.

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The John Dalton Book of Genealogy, by Mark Aldath Dalton, p. 26 -- His son Sir John married Alice Hussey 1327 AD, daughter of Sir Henry Hussey of Lancashire. Received lands in 1327.

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See attached PDF for very important information about him and his raid upon Beaume Manor to abduct Margery de Poynting as his wife in 1347.

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Sir John Dalton, Kt.'s Timeline

1320
1320
Dalton, Lancashire, England
1334
1334
Bispham, Lancashire, England
1369
1369
Age 49
Bispham, Lancashire, England
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