Sir Philip Tilney, III

Biography

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Tilney-92

Sir Philip Tilney was a member of the Commissions of the Peace for the counties of both Suffolk and Norfolk named in State Papers from 1 March 1515/6 (6 Henry VIII). [1]

The Visitation of Suffolk details Philip's three wives and the children he had by them although it does not provide dates: [2]

Margaret, daughter of ... Brewes of Wenham, Suffolk

1. Thomas son and heir
2. Philip 2) Jone (Joan) daughter of Thomas Tey of Layer de la Hay, Essex
3. Edmond

3) Elizabeth daughter of ... Jeffrey of Stansfield, Suffolk and Elizabeth Glenham, daughter of John Glenham and Ellenor Brandon.

1. Katherin married to ... Baker
2. Elizabeth married to Peter Clarke
3. Anne married to John Hubbert of Norfolk. (In her father's will of December 1532 she is named as Agnes).

Philip wrote his will on 8 December "in the xiiij yere ... of Kynge Henrye xiij th" (1532) and the will was proved by his widow Elizabeth on 8 October 1533 ("octavo die mens octobris Anno Dm millimo quingentesimo trecesimo tercio") [3]

A transcription of the will has been made by Nina Green for the Oxford Shakespeare website. [4] The paper also analyses the relationships between the persons mentioned in the will. It gives an (unsourced) death date of 8 January 1532/3.

SUMMARY: The document below is the last will and testament, dated 8 December 1532 and proved 8 October 1533, of Sir Philip Tilney (d. 8 January 1533), whose great- grandson, Philip Tilney (d. 13 March 1602), purchased Oxford’s manor of Aldham, Suffolk (see TNA C 54/1094, Part 24)

http://www.oxford-shakespeare.com/Probate/PROB_11-25-71.pdf

According to Blomefield, supra, Philip Tilney (d.1453), esquire, of Boston, Lincolnshire, had, by his wife, Isabel Thorp (d.1436), one of the daughters and heirs of Sir Edmund Thorp, three sons and three daughters, including:

-Hugh Tilney, esquire, second son, of Skirbeck and Boston, Lincolnshire, who married a daughter of Walter Tailboys, by whom he was the father of:

(1) Sir Philip Tilney (d. 8 January 1533), the testator.

The testator married firstly Margaret Brewes, the daughter of Sir Thomas Brewes (d. 17 June 1482) by his second wife, Elizabeth Debenham (d.1503). See the will of Elizabeth Debenham, in which she leaves a bequest to ‘Elizabeth Tilney, daughter of Sir Philip Tilney’, TNA PROB 11/13/418, and ‘A Who’s Who of Tudor Women’. Married After July 10, 1479.

They had two sons:

• Thomas Tilney of Hadleigh, Suffolk, eldest son, who married Margaret Barrett, by whom he was the father of a son and a daughter mentioned in the will below:
• -Frederick Tilney (d. 26 January 1541) of Kelsale (called ‘Frary’ in the will below), who married Margaret Buck of Long Melford, the daughter of Robert Buck and Jane Heigham, the daughter of Clement Heigham by Joan Cotton. For the Heigham family, see also the will of John Clopton, TNA PROB 11/11/266.

Testator’s second marriage

Although according to the pedigree in Metcalfe, supra, p. 73, the testator married secondly Jane Teye, the daughter of Thomas Teye of Layer de la Haye, Essex, by whom he had a son, Edmund Tilney, it appears the testator’s second wife was the widow of John Fincham (d. 30 April 1499), and the daughter of John Teye of Brightwell Hall, Suffolk, by his wife, Margaret, of Birch, Essex. See Crispe, supra, p. 60, and G.H.D., ‘Fincham - Tey - Tilney’, in Tymms, Samuel, ed., The East Anglian, (London: Whittaker and Co., 1864), Vol. I, pp. 95-6 at: https://books.google.ca/books?id=PMlAAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA95

Son

• Edmund Tilney,

Testator’s third marriage

The testator married thirdly Elizabeth Jeffrey, the daughter of one Jeffrey of Stansfield, Suffolk, by Elizabeth Glemham. Elizabeth Glemham was the daughter of John Glemham (d.1499?) by Eleanor Brandon (d. 30 June 1480), the daughter of Sir William Brandon (c.1425-1491) and Elizabeth Wingfield (d. 28 April 1497). For Elizabeth Wingfield, see the pedigree at: http://www.letheringhamlodge.com/wingfield-of-wingfield-and-letheri...

By his third wife the testator had three daughters:

• Katherine Tilney, who married a husband surnamed Baker. See Metcalfe, supra, p. 73, and ‘A Who’s Who of Tudor Women’ at: http://www.tudorwomen.com/?page_id=709
• Elizabeth Tilney, who married Peter Clarke. See Metcalfe, supra, p. 73, and ‘A Who’s Who of Tudor Women’ at: http://www.tudorwomen.com/?page_id=709
• Agnes Tilney, who married John Hubberd of Norfolk. See Metcalfe, supra, p. 73.

REMARRIAGE OF TESTATOR’S WIDOW

According to Crispe, supra, p. 60, after the testator’s death his widow, Elizabeth (nee Jeffrey) Tilney, married Lionel Talmache, esquire.

Other sources, however, indicate that after the testator’s death Elizabeth married Francis Framlingham (d.1544), esquire, of Crow’s Hall in Debenham, Suffolk. See the pedigrees in Gunn, supra; Francis Framlingham’s will, in which he appoints his wife, Lady Elizabeth Tilney, as one of his executors, TNA PROB 11/31/544; and the pedigrees of Tilney and Framlingham in Metcalfe, supra, pp. 73-4, and 192: https://archive.org/stream/visitationsofsuf00harvuoft#page/72/mode/2up

https://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/tt/tilney1.php

• c. Sir Hugh Tilney or Tylney of Skirbeck and Boston m. Eleanor Tailboys (dau of Walter Tailboys)
  • (1) Sir Philip Tilney of Shelley (d 1532/3) m1. Margaret Brewse (dau of ?? Brewse of Wenham)
    • (A) Thomas Tilney of Shelley - continued below m. Margaret Barett
    • (B) Philip Tilney m. Malyn Chambre
      • (i) Edmund Tilney m. _ Cotton (dau of Sir J. Cotton)
  • m2. Jane (dau of either Thomas Lancelot or John Tey)
  • Sir Philip's 3rd wife was identified as Elizabeth, dau of Geffery Stanfield, but appears to have been ... m3. Elizabeth Jeffrey (dau of ?? Jeffery of Stanfield)
    • (C) Catherine Tilney m. _ Baker
    • (D) Anne Tilney m. _ Hobart
    • (E) Elizabeth Tilney m. Peter Clarkson
  • (2) Agnes Tilney (bur 31.05.1545) m. (17.08.1497) Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk (d 21.05.1524)