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Thimo II the Brave von Wettin

German: Thimo Graf von Brehna und Wettin
Also Known As: "der Brave / the Courageous", "«der Tapfere»"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Wettin, Wettin-Löbejün, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany
Death: March 09, 1091 (71-80)
Meissen, Saxony, Germany
Place of Burial: Naumburg, Germany
Immediate Family:

Son of Dietric II von Wettin, margrave of the Saxon Ostmark and Mathilde of Meissen
Husband of Ida Gräfin von Brehna und Wettin
Father of Dedo IV von Groitzsch, Markgraf von Groitzsch und von Wettin; Konrad I "the Pious, Great," Margrave of Meißen and Maud von Kistritz
Brother of Friedrich von Munster, bishop; Konrad Landgraf von Landsberg / Wettin Camburg; Rikdag von Eilenburg Wettin; herzog von Brehna Gero von Wettin, greve af Brehna; Hidda (Ida) von Wettin, Duchess of Bohemia and 1 other

Occupation: Graf von Wettin 1034 in Köstritz
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About Thiemo II, Graf von Wettin

DIETRICH [Theoderic], son of --- (-before 976). [Graf im Hassegau]. The Annalista Saxo calls him "Theodericus egregie libertatis vir" and names his two sons[248]. "Otto…rex" confirmed previous grants to Kloster Gandersheim including property "in pago Suththuringa in comitatu Uuillihelmi…[et] in pago Nordthuringa…in comitatu Theoderici in loco…Uuanzleua…[et] in Hliuthirithi in comitatu Irmenfridi" by charter dated 21 Apr 956[249]. "Otto…imperator augustus" donated property "in pagis Derlingon et Nortduringen in comitatu ipsius Mamaconi" to "nostro fideli Mamaconi" at the request of "Theoderici comitis" by charter dated 23 Apr 966[250].

m IMMA, daughter of ---. 976. "Otto…imperator augustus" confirmed donations of property "in Livbedinga in pago Gurketal et in comitatu Ratoldi comitis" by "Theoderici comitis cuidam viduæ Imma" for the foundation of a monastery by charter dated 11 Jun 975[251], although it is not known whether this refers to the same Graf Dietrich. Thietmar records that Dedo "went so far as to capture his own mother" when leading "the rebellious Bohemians against us at the church of Zeitz"[252].

Graf Dietrich & his wife had two children:

1. DEDO [I] (-killed in battle near Mose bei Wolmirstedt 13 Nov 1009). He is named as son of Dietrich in the Annalista Saxo, which records that he served Markgraf Ricdag and his son Karl[253]. Thietmar records that he was appointed Graf von Merseburg in succession to Count Bio[254]. m (before 985) THIETBURGA [von Haldensleben], daughter of DIETRICH Markgraf über den Gau der Heveller [Nordmark] & his wife ---. The parentage of the wife of Graf Dedo is deduced from her brother Bernhard being described as avunculus of her son, although she is not named in this passage[255]. Thietmar is more explicit, stating that Dedo married "Markgraf Dietrich's daughter, Thiedburga"[256]. Graf Dedo [I] & his wife had one child:

a) DIETRICH (-murdered 19 Nov 1034). "Theoderico, Dedonis occisi filio" is named in the Annalista Saxo, when recording that the king installed him in his father's Grafschaft[257]. Graf in Eilenburg 1017. Graf im Hassegau und Siusli 1021.
m MATHILDE von Meissen, daughter of EKKEHARD I Markgraf von Meissen & his wife Schwanehild [Billung]. The Chronicon Montis Serreni names "Machtildem" as daughter of "Ekkehardo marchioni" & his wife and names her husband "Tidericus comes"[266].
Graf Dietrich & his wife had seven children:

1. FRIEDRICH (-Münster 18 Apr 1084, bur Münster Cathedral). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "filios: Fridericum, Dedonem, Thiemonem, Geronem, Conradum, Riddagum, et filiam Hiddam" as children of "comes Tidericus", specifying that "primus filius Fridericus fuit prepositus maioris Magdeburgensis ecclesie, postea Monasteriensis episcopus"[267]. Provost at Magdeburg cathedral before 1063. Elected Bishop of Magdeburg 1063. Provost of Münster cathedral 1063. Imperial chancellor. Bishop of Münster 1064.
2. DEDO [II] (-Oct 1075). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "filios: Fridericum, Dedonem, Thiemonem, Geronem, Conradum, Riddagum, et filiam Hiddam" as children of "comes Tidericus", specifying that "secundus filius Dedo obtinuit marchiam Hodonis marchionis, qui heredem non habuit"[268]. Graf im Gau Siusli 1043. Markgraf der Niederlausitz 1046. Graf im südliche Schwabengau [1046/68].
3. THIMO (-after [1099/1101]). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "filios: Fridericum, Dedonem, Thiemonem, Geronem, Conradum, Riddagum, et filiam Hiddam" as children of "comes Tidericus"[269].
4. GERO (-after 1089). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "filios: Fridericum, Dedonem, Thiemonem, Geronem, Conradum, Riddagum, et filiam Hiddam" as children of "comes Tidericus"[270]. Graf von Brehna. m as her second husband, BERTA ---, widow of POPPO von Wippra, daughter of --- (-17 Sep, 1089 or before). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Bertam viduam cuiusdam Popponis" as wife of "quartus filius [comitis Tiderici] Gero comes", specifying that "huius Popponis frater fuit Cuno senior de Wippera"[271]. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmed a donation to the church of Naumburg by "domne Berthe fuit uxoris…comitis Geronis" to Naumburg church by charter dated 12 Dec 1089, which names "fidelium nostrorum Geronis comitis, Guntheri episcopi, Theoderici et Willihelmi filiorum suorum"[272], the charter being marked spurious in the compilation although the genealogical information in the document is corroborated by other sources. Graf Gero & his wife had five children:

a) DIETRICH (-14 Oct [1089/1115], bur Naumburg Cathedral). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Tidericum comitem et Willehelmum comitem de Canburch et Guntherum Cicensem episcopum" as the three sons of "quartus filius [comitis Tiderici] Gero comes" & his wife[273]. Graf von Brehna. m GERBURG, daughter of --- (-21 Oct -, bur Naumburg Cathedral). The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified.
b) WILHELM (-7 Mar [1089/1115], bur Naumburg Cathedral). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Tidericum comitem et Willehelmum comitem de Canburch et Guntherum Cicensem episcopum" as the three sons of "quartus filius [comitis Tiderici] Gero comes" & his wife[274]. The Liber de Bello Saxonico records that "Willehelmus, Geronis comitis filius" was captured "ab Everhardo"[275]. Graf von Camburg. m GEVA Gräfin von Seeburg, daughter of --- (-14 Mar -, bur Naumburg Cathedral). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Wilhelm & his wife had two children:

i) GEVA . The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified.
ii) BERTA ([1075]-before [1152/56]). The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. Her name is confirmed by the charter dated to [1149] under which her daughter Hedwig Abbess of Gernrode donated part of her inheritance from "matris…eius Berchte et fratris eius comitis Geronis" to Gernrode[276]. m ([1096]%29 as his second wife, WICHMANN [I] Graf von Seeburg, son of Graf CRISTIN [Querfurt] & his wife Oda von Haldensleben (-[1115]).

c) GÜNTHER (-1 Apr 1089, bur Naumburg Cathedral). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Tidericum comitem et Willehelmum comitem de Canburch et Guntherum Cicensem episcopum" as the three sons of "quartus filius [comitis Tiderici] Gero comes" & his wife[277]. Bishop of Naumburg 1079. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" granted property "quod Gero pater…Gunteri episcopi dederat in comitatu Hasgethe Friderici palatini comiti et in pago Helfethe et in Scafestede" to Naumburg church by charter dated 10 Aug 1088, at the request of "Ekkeberti marchionis, Heinrici marchionis…Gunteri Nuienburgensis sedis episcopi"[278].
d) WILLA . The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Willam abbatissam de Gerbestide et Thieburgam prepositam de Gernrode" as the daughters of "quartus filius [comitis Tiderici] Gero comes" & his wife[279]. Abbess of Gerbstedt.
e) THIETBURG . The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Willam abbatissam de Gerbestide et Thieburgam prepositam de Gernrode" as the daughters of "quartus filius [comitis Tiderici] Gero comes" & his wife[280]. Nun at Gernrode.

5. KONRAD (-17 Jan or 14 Feb after 1040). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "filios: Fridericum, Dedonem, Thiemonem, Geronem, Conradum, Riddagum, et filiam Hiddam" as children of "comes Tidericus"[281]. Graf von Wettin. m OTHILDIS von Katlenburg, daughter of DIETRICH [I] Graf von Katlenburg [Stade] & his wife Bertrada of Holland. The Annalista Saxo names "Theodericus et…Othilhildis" as children of Graf Dietrich [I] & his wife, specifying that the latter married "Conrado fratri Dedonis marchionis"[282]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "sororem Tiderici senioris de Kathelenburc…Othilhildis" as wife of "quintus filius [comitis Tiderici] Conradus comes"[283]. Konrad & his wife had one child:

a) BERTRADA (-1145). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Bertradam" as the daughter of "quintus filius [comitis Tiderici] Conradus comes" & his wife, naming her husband "Beringerus comes frater Ludowici comitis senioris de Thuringia"[284]. “Comes Ludowicus cum nepote suo Conrado comitis...Berngeri filio...cum uxore eiusdem domini Ludowici Adilheida ac filiis eorundem Hermanno, Ludowico, Heinrico, Conrado, dominaque Berchtrada comitis Conradi matre” donated “ecclesiam...Sangershusen” to Reinhardsbrunn by charter dated 25 Jul 1110[285]. m BERENGAR Graf von Sangerhausen, son of LUDWIG "mit dem Barten" Graf in Thuringia & his wife Caecilie von Sangerhausen (-before 25 Jul 1110).

6. RIKDAG . The Genealogica Wettinensis names "filios: Fridericum, Dedonem, Thiemonem, Geronem, Conradum, Riddagum, et filiam Hiddam" as children of "comes Tidericus", specifying that "Riddagus sextus filius" died childless[286].
7. HIDDA von Eilenburg . The Genealogica Wettinensis names "filios: Fridericum, Dedonem, Thiemonem, Geronem, Conradum, Riddagum, et filiam Hiddam" as children of "comes Tidericus", specifying that Hidda married "duci Boemico"[287]. m SPYTIHNĔV II Duke of the Bohemians, son of BŘETISLAV Duke of the Bohemians & his wife Judith von Schweinfurt (1031-28 Jan 1061).

2. FRIEDRICH von Eilenburg (-Eilenburg 6 Jan 1017). "Dedonem et Fridericum" are named as sons of Dietrich in the Annalista Saxo[258]. Burggraf von Meissen. Herr von Eilenburg. Thietmar records the death of "Count Friedrich…in his burg Eilenburg", stating that he transferred Eilenburg to "his brother's son Dietrich" before he died while it was agreed that his remaining lands "would pass to his three daughters"[259]. The Genealogica Wettinensis records his death "in eadem civitate [=Hileburc civitatem suam] in sacra nocte epiphanie Domini"[260]. m ---. The name of Friedrich's wife is not known. Graf Friedrich & his wife had three daughters.

https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Dietrichdied1034


Thimo von Wettin

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Thimo, Graf von Wettin, (* vor 1034; † 1091 oder 1118) war der Sohn des Markgrafen Dietrich, und der Mathilde von Meißen, Tochter des Markgrafen Ekkehard I. von Meißen und der Swanhild Billung von Sachsen, Tochter von Herzog Hermann Billung von Sachsen. Graf Thimo starb nach den Naumburger Annalen am 9. März 1091, nach anderen Quellen erst im Jahre 1118. Nach Pätzold, 1997 wird das Todesjahr mit nach ca. 1101 angegeben. Verheiratet war er mit Ida, der Tochter Ottos von Northeim, zeitweise Herzog von Bayern. Er war der erste, der sich nach der Burg Wettin benannte.

Leben

Thimo gehörte zu Anfang der sächsischen Adelsrevolte zu der Gruppe der Königsgegner. Er bekleidete das Amt des Hochstiftsvogts von Naumburg. Zugleich war er Vogt des wettinischen Hausklosters Gerbstedt. Der Wettiner geriet in Konflikte mit den königsfreundlichen Bischöfen von Münster, bei denen es um Nutzungsrechte am Kloster und die verhinderten Erzbischofswahlen zweier Wettiner ging, und zwar seines Bruders Friedrich, der Bischof von Münster wurde sowie seines Neffen Günther, der dann Bischof von Naumburg wurde. Im Jahre 1088 war er gemeinsam mit anderen Wettinern auf dem Quedlinburger Hoftag anwesend, auf dem Ekbert II. die Mark Meißen entzogen wurde. Thimo näherte sich um diese Zeit Kaiser Heinrich IV. an. Gemeinsam mit Dedo IV., seinem Sohn, und Heinrich I., seinem Neffen, nahm er im Jahre 1101 an der feierlichen Einführung der Hirsauer Observanz im Kloster Lippoldsberg teil. Die bisher angenommene Identität Thimos von Wettin mit dem unter den Stifterfiguren des Naumburger Domes vertretenen Timo von Kistritz ist neuen Forschungen zufolge unwahrscheinlich.

Nachkommen

-1. Dedo IV., († 1124) Graf von Wettin und Stiftsvogt zu Naumburg

-2. Konrad der Große, Markgraf von Meißen

-3. Mathilde, († 1125) verehelicht mit Graf Gero von Seeburg und danach mit Graf Ludwig von Wippra

Forrás / Source

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thimo_von_Wettin

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In Engkish version:

Thimo II the Brave, Count of Wettin

Thimo

Count of Wettin

Count of Brehna

Spouse Ida of Nordheim

House House of Wettin

Father Dietrich II of Wettin

Mother Mathilde of Meissen

Born c. 1010

Died 9 March 1090/1091 or c. 1100

Thimo (born c. 1010, died 9 March 1090/1091 or c. 1100), was count of Wettin and Brehna. He was the son of Dietrich II, Margrave of Lower Lusatia, and Mathilde, daughter of Eckard I, Margrave of Meissen, and married Ida, daughter of Otto of Northeim.[1][2] Thimo is buried at Niemegk Monastery, which he had founded.

The exact year of Thimo's death is unclear; since his son Conrad was born in approximately 1098, Thiemo cannot have died long before this year. Alternatively, some researchers assume that Thimo was in fact Conrad's grandfather, and that Conrad's father was an unknown son of Thimo's with the same name, making a death year of 1090/91 possible, as given in a chronicle. However, since Thimo II is not otherwise attested, this is considered unlikely.

[edit] Children

Dedi IV (died 16 December 1124), oldest son, died without son

Conrad (c. 1098 – 1157)

Mathilde, married Gero I, Count of Seeburg in 1115, and Louis II, Count of Wippra in 1123

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thimo_II_the_Brave,_Count_of_Wettin

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Thimo Markgraf von Kistritz

M, #8887, d. 9 March 1104

Last Edited=9 Feb 2003

    Thimo Markgraf von Kistritz was the son of Dietrich II Markgraf von Ostmark and Mathilde von Meißen. He died on 9 March 1104.

Thimo Markgraf von Kistritz gained the title of Graf von Brehna. He gained the title of Graf von Wettin. He gained the title of Margraf von Kistritz.
Children of Thimo Markgraf von Kistritz and Ida von Nordheim

-1. Dedo IV Graf von Brehna+ b. c 1086, d. 16 Dec 1124

-2. Conrad Markgraf von Meißen+ b. c 1098, d. 5 Feb 1157

-3. Maud von Kistritz b. c 1100, d. c 1125

Forrás / Source:

http://www.thepeerage.com/p889.htm#i8887



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thimo_II_the_Brave,_Count_of_Wettin

Thimo (born c. 1010, died 9 March 1090/1091 or c. 1100), was count of Wettin and Brehna. He was the son of Dietrich II, Margrave of Lower Lusatia, and Mathilde, daughter of Eckard I, Margrave of Meissen, and married Ida, daughter of Otto of Northeim.[1][2] Thimo is buried at Niemegk Monastery, which he had founded.

The exact year of Thimo's death is unclear; since his son Conrad was born in approximately 1098, Thiemo cannot have died long before this year. Alternatively, some researchers assume that Thimo was in fact Conrad's grandfather, and that Conrad's father was an unknown son of Thimo's with the same name, making a death year of 1090/91 possible, as given in a chronicle. However, since Thimo II is not otherwise attested, this is considered unlikely.

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Thiemo II, Graf von Wettin's Timeline

1015
1015
Wettin, Wettin-Löbejün, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany
1086
1086
Wettin, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany
1091
March 9, 1091
Age 76
Meissen, Saxony, Germany
1091
probably Wettin, Neletize, Mark Lusiza (March of Lusatia), Herzogtum Sachsen (Duchy of Saxony), Heiliges Römisches Reich (Holy Roman Empire)
1100
1100
????
Naumburg, Germany