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Thomas Besbeech

Also Known As: "Thomas Besbedge", "Thomas Bisbee", "Thomas Besbeech"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Biddenden, Kent, England (United Kingdom)
Death: March 09, 1674
Sudbury, Middlesex County, Massachusetts Bay Colony, Colonial America
Place of Burial: Wayland, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, USA
Immediate Family:

Son of John Bisbee, Sr. and Dorothy Besbeech
Husband of Ann Bisbee
Father of Sarah Besbeech; Elizabeth Bisbee; Mary Browne and Alice Bourne
Brother of John Besbeech, Jr. and Sarah Bisbee
Half brother of Richard Foster, of Biddenden

Occupation: Representative
Immigration: Spring of 1635 on the Hercules
Managed by: Private User
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About Thomas Besbeech

Biography

From Savage:

THOMAS, Scituate, came in the Hercules 1634, with six ch. and three serv. emb. at Sandwich, Co. Kent, was deac. of the first ch. of S. that he join. 30 Apr. 1637, but rem. to Duxbury, prob. for the relig. quarrels at S. was rep. for D. 1643. He was, by Deane, suppos. to d. early, but he had rem. again, and d. at Sudbury, 9 Mar. 1674. His will, of 20 Nov. 1672, pro. 7 Apr. 1674, is copious in geneal. inform. tho. begin. with order. for bur. his body at E. end of the ch. gives gr.s. Thomas, eldest s. of d. Mary, w. of William Brown of Sudbury, all the ho. and lds. in the parishes of Hedcorn, and Frittenden, Co. Kent, in O. E. names gr.-gr.childr. Mary, Thankful, and Patience, ds. of said Thomas Brown, also other ch. of his d. Mary, seven in num. viz. William, Edmund, Hopestill, Susanna, Eliz. Sarah, beside the eldest Mary, w. of Benjamin Rice of S. and her s. Ebenezer, his gr.-gr.ch. also d. Alice, w. of John Bourne of Marshfield, m. 18 July 1645, and her s. Thomas, the oldest ch. and Sarah, the youngest, and the other sis. without more exact designat. also Experience, s. of Joseph and Eliz. Bent; made William and Edmund, s. of his d. Mary, excors. and Capt. Hopestill Foster of Dorchester, overseer. His d. Alice d. May 1686. In rec. of O. E. this name is very common. Besbeech, but in N. E. is become Bisby or Bisbee.

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Of all such persons as embarked themselves in the good ship called the "Hercules", of Sandwich of the burthen of 200 tons, John Witherley, master, and therein transported from Sandwich to the plantation called New England in America; with the certificates from the ministers where they last dwelt of their conversation, and conformity to the orders and discipline of the church, and that they had taken the oath of allegiance and supremacy. (The certificates, all dated February and March, 1634, are here omitted.) Masters of Families Nathanl. Tilden of Tenterden yeoman and Lydia his wife - 7 children - 7 servants Jonas Austen of Tenterden and Constance his wife - 4 children Rob. Brook of Maidstone mercer and Anne his wife - 7 childern Tho. Heyward of Aylesford taylor and Susannah his wife - 5 children Will. Witherell of Maidstone schoolmaster and Mary his wife - 3 children - 1 servant Fannet ....... of Asford hemp-dresser Tho Boney and Hen. Ewell of Sandwich, shoemakers Will. Hatch of Sandwich merchant and Jane his wife - 5 children - 6 servants Sam. Hinkley of Tenterden and Sarah his wife - 1 child Isaac Cole of Sandwich carpenter and Joan his wife - 2 children A Servant Tho. Champion of Ashford Tho. Besbeech of Sandwich - 6 children - 3 servants Jno Lewis of Tenterden and Sarah his wife - 1 child Parnel Harris of Bow London James Sayers of Northbourn taylor Comfort Starre of Ashford chirurgion 3 children - 3 servants Jos. Rottes of Great Chart Em. Mason of Eastwell wid. Margt. wife of Will. Johnes late of Sandwich, now of New England, painter Jno. Best of the said parish taylor Tho. Bridgen of Faversham husbandman and ....... his wife ("Original Lists of Persons of Quality 1600-1700", John Camden Hotten, Reprinted 1980, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc, Baltimore. Library of Congress Catalogue Card Number 63-530(History of Sandwich, by W. Boys, 1792, pp.750-1.)

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Thomas, of Sandwich, Eng, came in the Hercules in March 1634. Settled at Cambridge, gent., propr 1636. Rem to Scituate, frm Feb 7, 1636-7. Rec'd chh 1637. Propr at Barnstable 1638-9. Rem to Duxbury 1639. Sold land in D. 1647, having removed to Sudbury in 1645. Rem to Marshfield and sold land at S. 13 Oct 1664. Ret to Sudbury. He d March 9, 1673-4. Will dated 25 Nov 1672, prob 7 (2) 1674, [delivered by him to Edmund Browne to keep, as the latter attests]; beq to gr ch and adopted son Thomas Besbeech alias Browne, son of his dau Mary, wife to William B. of Sudbury, lands in Hetcorne and Frittenden, C. Kent, Eng.; to dau Mary; to dau Alice, wife of John Bourne of Marshfield; to gr ch William, Edmund and Hopestill, sons of dau Mary, and to her daus Susanna, Elizabeth, Sarah and Mary, wife of John Rice; to Thomas and Sarah ch of dau Alice Bourne; to Mary dau of Thos. Besbeech alias Browne; to Experience son of Elizabeth, wife of Joseph Bent.

Pioneers of Massachusetts

Family

More About Thomas Bisbee:

Immigration: 1635, Hercules

     

Children of Thomas Bisbee and Anne Basenden are:

  • NOT Elisha Bisbee, Sr. “ The will of Thomas Besbeech and the chronology make this impossible.”
  • ii. NOT Sarah Stevens. Sarah Bisbee, born January 06, 1620/21 in Frittenden, Kent, England; buried Frittenden 16 June 1628
  • iii. Elizabeth Bisbee, born Abt. 1622 in Frittenden, Kent, England; died Unknown.
  • iv. Mary Bisbee, born Abt. 1623 in Frittendon, Kent, England; died Unknown; married William Brown November 15, 1641 in Sudbury, MA; born Abt. 1620; died Unknown. Notes for William Brown: WILLIAM, Sudbury, an orig. propr. m. 15 Nov. 1641, Mary, d. of Thomas Besbeech or Bisby, had Mary, b. 18 May 1643, wh. m. a. 1662, Benjamin Rice; Thomas, 22 May 1644, bef. ment.; William; Edmund, 27 Nov. 1653, bef: ment.; Hopestill, 8 July 1656, bef. ment.; Susanna; and Eliz. 23 July 1659. He was a deac. perhaps br. of Rev. Edmund, freem. 2 June 1641, a capt. and rep. under the new chart. 1692. William, gentleman, Sudbury, propr 1639; frm June 2, 1641. He petitioned the Gen Court in 1649 for 200 acres of land due for 25 li. put into joint stock by his aunt Mrs Ann Harvey, who authorized his application. Land laid out to him in Sudbury. Sold land in 1653. He m 15 (9) 1641 "Mary Bisby of Duxbury"; ch Mary b 18 (3) 1643, Thomas b 22 (3) 1645, Edmund b 27 (9) 1648, [printed as 3?], Susanna b 4 (12) 1646. Will dated 20 May, prob 25 Oct 1676, beq to his wife Mary his whole interest in the lands given to her by her father Beesbech at Hetcorne and Frittingden in Co. Kent, Eng.; to sons Thomas, William, Edmund, and Hopestill; to dau Mary, wife of Benjamin Rice and her son Ebenezer; to daus Elizabeth and Sarah B.; to gr ch Mary, Thankful, Patience, and Sarah B.

Source: familytreemaker Ancestors of Charles Alfred Cook Jr


Immigration: From Sandwich, Eng. on ship "Hercules" in 1634

http://www.packrat-pro.com/ships/hercules2.htm

The 'Good ship Hercules of Sandwich' left Sandwich, England in1634 with her master, John Witherley. Hercules of Dover

From Hotten:s Original Persons: "Of all such persons as embarked themselves in the good ship called the Hercules, of Sandwicxh, of the burthen of 200 tons, John Witherley, master, and therein transported from Sandwich to the plantation called New England in America; with the cerificates from the ministers where they last dwelt of their conversation, and conformity to the orders and discipline of the church, and that they had taken the oath of allegiance and supremacy. (The certificates, all dated February and March, 1634, are here omitted.)"

Alphabetical roll:

  • Austen Jonas of Tenterden (From Staplehurst, Kent, bound for Cambridge, Hingham and Taunton. Ref: NEGR 67/166. 36 pg 83)
  • Austen Constance, wife
  • Austen Jonas, son
  • Aysten Lidia, daughter
  • Austen Mary, daughter
  • Austen child
  • Bennet James, Tilden servant (From Tenterden, Kent, bound for Scituate, Cambridge. Ref: NEGR 75/218 & 79/108. 36 pg 85)
  • Besbeech Thomas of Sandwich
  • Besbeech Mary, daughter
  • Besbeech Alice, daughter
  • Besbeech Elizabeth, daughter

Comments

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The 19th century historians always suggested Thomas as a likely/probable ancestor of Elisha and his descendants but without certainty. The six children often attributed to Thomas on the Hercules were only two of his own, while the others were not his children: one Jane (widow of Ambrose) Egelden, and her 3 children. Hence the “6” claimed Bisbee children were instead: Mary Bisbee, Alice Bisbee+ Jane + 3 Egelden children = 6. A Masters Thesis document has recently collected and reexamined documents relative to people on the Hercules, and states that Jane Egelden and her children were under the protection of Thomas Bisbee, and not his servants, as claimed in a column in the Frank J. Bisbee book. Granted, he listed only children Mary and Alice, but then picks up Sarah as marrying Francis Stevens as if she was d/o Thomas. If Sarah Stevens was a Bisbee she was not d/o Thomas, but possibly s/o Elisha. No immigration record has been found for any Elisha nor Sarah, but many were lost.

References

  • Genealogy of the Bisbee family : descendants of Thomas Besbeech (Bisbee) of Scituate, Duxbury and Sudbury, Massachusetts / by Frank J. Bisbee. (1956) page 11. Archive.org
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Thomas Besbeech's Timeline

1589
March 3, 1589
Biddenden, Kent, England
March 3, 1589
Biddenen, Kent, England
March 3, 1589
Biddenden, Kent, England
1621
January 6, 1621
Age 31
Frittenden, Kent, England, United Kingdom
1622
1622
Age 32
Frittenden, Kent, England
1623
January 23, 1623
Age 33
Frittenden, Kent, , England
1624
June 29, 1624
Age 35
Frittenden, Kent, England
1664
October 13, 1664
Age 75