Thomas Rose of Preston

"Thomas Rose was an early settler in the southern part of Preston. His name acquired notariety from the situation of his dwelling house. A large oak tree near the house was a noted boundary-mark between Norwich and New London, standing as a stately warder precisely at the southeast corner of Norwich. It was directly upon the line running east from the head of Poquetannock Cove to the bounds of Stonington, and is referred to in several surveys, acts and patents.

Biography

http://sites.rootsweb.com/~brouwergenealogydata/Freeman/p191.htm#i6293

• Thomas Rose was possibly born between 1650 and 1660.
• He married Hannah Allyn, daughter of Robert Allyn and Sarah, at New London, New London Co., Connecticut.2
• Thomas Rose died on 19 April 1744 at Preston, New London Co., Connecticut.3,4
• Mary Rose is a possible daughter of Thomas Rose. If so, she would not likely have been born until at least 1675, which would have made her a much younger woman than her husband, Robert Parke. Alternatively, she may have been a sister of Thomas Rose of Preston.

Thomas Rose married Hannah, daughter of Robert Allyn. Under the shadow of the great boundary tree they both lived to a good old age. He died in 1743 leaving an estate of £2,498. His wife survived him, and he left also a son Joseph and six daughters. Another son, Thomas, died before his father, in 1733, leaving a family.3

Family: Hannah Allyn b. bt 1650 - 1660, d. 5 Jan 1745/46

Their children include

• Thomas Rose3
• Joseph Rose3
• Joanna Rose+5 b. c 1678

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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/163931553/thomas-rose

Thomas Rose was the son of Joanna Rose and her husband whose name may have also been Thomas. He married c. 1674 Hannah ALLYN, b. say 1655, the daughter of Robert and Sarah Allyn. The marriage date of 16 Sep 1680? given by Torrey is too late to accommodate the calculated birth year of 1679 for the oldest daughter, Joanna. If Torrey's marriage date of 1680 is accurate, then she might be of a different mother, but there is no other basis for making such an assumption.

Thomas served during King Phillips War, and as a result shared in the division of volunteer's land which later became Votuntown, CT. He was Deputy from Preston to the Connecticut General Assembly in October 1695, then again from 1720 to 1724. He is called Sergeant Thomas Rose in some records and Captain Thomas Rose in others, including the Joshua Hempstead Diary. Thomas was not only a member of the CT General Assembly, but also a large landholder and a very wealthy man. His inventory at death was valued at nearly 2500 pounds, per the History of Norwich, CT. His will was dated 20 Nov 1743 and proved in 1744. Children, all born in New London Co., CT, probably in Preston:

• Joanna, b. 1679 (calculated from grave stone), d. Groton, CT 3 Jan 1761 in her 82nd year, and m. Preston, CT 3 June 1699 Edward AVERY, b. Groton, CT 20 Feb 1675 (calculated from tombstone), d. Ledyard, CT 14 March 1759 aged 84y 24d, the son of James Avery and Deborah Stallion of Groton, CT. Edward and Joanna both have grave markers in the Edward Avery Cemetery, Ledyard, CT.
• Thomas, b. 1681, d. May 1733 in 52nd year, and m. c. 1704 Mary GATES, b. Charlestown, Mass. 10 March 1767, d. Preston, CT 7 June 1737, the daughter of Thomas Gates and Elizabeth Freeman. The will of Thomas Rose was dated 13 April 1733, and proved shortly thereafter on 28 May. Thomas and Mary are buried in the Geer Cemetery in Griswold, CT. They both have surviving grave markers, but both are very difficult to read.
• Hannah, b. c. 1683, d. Preston, CT 19 July 1724, m. Preston, CT 22 Feb 1703 Samuel STERRY, b. Stonington, CT 1674, d. Preston 15 April 1734, aged 59, the son of Roger Sterry and Hannah (Palmer) Hewitt. Following Hannah's death, Samuel m. 6 Feb 1724/5 Mehetable Starkweather, with whom he had two children born in Preston, CT. Samuel held the title of Captain. He at one time had a grave marker in the little Brown Cemetery in Preston, and if Hannah is also buried there, no record has been found.
• Dorcas, b. c. 1685, m. Groton, CT 11 Nov 1704 Nathaniel BELLOWS, b. Concord, Mass. 3 April 1676, still living (in Groton, CT) 22 Feb 1759 when named in a deed, the son of John Bellows and Mary Wood of Marlboro, Mass. Dorcas and Nathaniel had eight known children, born 1705 to 1722 (see History of Ledyard, CT).
• Deborah, b. c. 1687, d. Preston, CT 3 Jan 1770, m. Preston, CT 15 May 1710 Samuel PARTRIDGE, b. Duxbury, Mass 10 March 1687, d. Preston, CT 19 Oct 1774, the son of John Partridge and Hannah Seabury of Duxbury, Mass. Deborah and Samuel had eight known children born from 1716 to 1730. Find-a-grave memorials have been created for Samuel and Deborah, though their burial locations are unknown.
• Damaris, b. c. 1689, d. 1754, m. Preston, CT 12 Dec 1711 Joseph GATES, b. Sudbury, Mass. 16 March 1679/80, d. Preston, CT 24 Oct 1742, the son of Thomas Gates and Elizabeth Freeman of Sudbury, Mass. and Preston, CT. Joseph's will, dated 14 Oct 1742, was probated the following month, on 4 November. His estate was very large, valued at over 4000 pounds. The will of Damaris, widow, was dated 22 June 1754, and probated six months later on 28 December. Damaris and Joseph had seven known children, born 1712/3 to 1732.
• Mary, b. c. 1691, m. Groton, CT 29 April 1712 Henry PELTON, b. Bristol, Mass. (now RI) 10 Dec 1690 (VRRI), d. Groton, CT 1763 (web source only), the son of Samuel Pelton and Mary Smith of Bristol. Mary and Samuel had ten known children, born 1714 to 1732.
• Joseph, b. 3 April 1693, d. Preston, CT 14 Jan 1770, aged 76y 9m 11d, m. Preston 15 Sep 1715 Sarah PELTON, b. Bristol, Mass. (now Rhode Island) 23 March 1692/3, d. Preston, CT 30 Jan 1770, aged 76y 10m 4d, daughter of Samuel Pelton and Mary Smith of Bristol. The death dates and ages for Joseph and Sarah come from the Barbour collection of Connecticut vital records. The Preston vital records give dates that differ only very slightly: his death date as 15 Jan 1770, and her death date as 2 Feb 1770. Joseph and Sarah had six known children, born 1717 to 1732.
• Elizabeth, b. c. 1695, m. Preston, CT 11 Nov 1711 (I question this record, since their first known child wasn't born until 1717; some web accounts give the year as 1714, which, to me, is much more reasonable) Samuel KILLAM, b. c. 1691, d. Preston 13 Feb 1744/5 (per web sources, but I find no record of this). Samuel was the son of John Killam and Hannah Pickford of Wenham, Mass. and Preston, CT according to a PDF found on the web. Elizabeth and Samuel had nine known children born 1717 to 1733.
• Sarah, b. c. 1697, d. 5 Nov or 5 Dec 1729 (web records only, but either of these dates is consistent with the date of his remarriage), m. Preston, CT 5 March 1718 John KILLAM, b. Wenham, Mass. 7 Sep 1698, d. 1753, the son of Samuel Killam and Deborah Dorn of Wenham, Mass. Following Sarah's death, John m. (2) Preston, CT 13 Feb 1729/30 Abigail Kimball, b. Preston 11 Oct 1709, d. c. 1734, daughter of John Kimball and Sarah Goodhue; and he m. (3) c. 1735 Hepsibah Parke, who is the wife named in his will. He was called of Preston in his will, dated 9 Feb 1753 and proved in October of the same year.

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• ROSE, Thomas
• b. 10 SEP 1666 Scituate, Plymouth, Mass.
• d. 19 APR 1744 Stonington, New London, CT.
• Parents:
• Father: ROSE, Thomas
• Mother: HATCH, Alice
• Family:
• Marriage: 16 SEP 1680 Stonington, New London, CT.
• Spouse: ALLYN, Hannah
• b. 1650 New London, New London, CT.
• d. 5 JAN 1745/6 Stonington, New London, CT.
• Parents:
• Father: ALLYN, Robert
• Mother: Sarah,
• Children:
  • ROSE, Joanna
  • ROSE, Hannah
  • ROSE, Dorcas
  • ROSE, Thomas
  • ROSE, Deborah
  • ROSE, Damaris
  • ROSE, Mary
  • ROSE, Elizabeth
  • ROSE, Joseph
  • ROSE, Sarah
• From: http://www.genealogyofnewengland.com/f_235.htm#36 ________________
• The New England historical and genealogical register, Volume 70 By Henry Fitz-Gilbert Waters, New England Historic Genealogical Society
• http://books.google.com/books?id=rAcivEotaG0C&pg=PA257&lpg=PA257&dq...
• Pg.256
• .... etc.
• 10. THOMAS HATCH (William, Thomas, John the Younger, Thomas, Thomas, John), of Wye, co. Kent, and Scituate, Mass., born, probably about 1596, died in New England before 14 June 1646, when his widow brought her daughter Hannah to be baptized.* He married, probably about 1622 LYDIA —— . He lived for a while at Wye, where in 1626 and 1628 two of his children were baptized. .... The date of his emigration to New England is not known; but he may have come with his brother William, on his second trip to New England, in the Castle, in 1638. He settled at Scituate, and was proposed as a freeman 5 Mar. 1638/9.
• His widow, Lydia, married secondly, abot 1654, John Spring of Watertown, Mass., but continued to live in Scituate. About her the Plymouth Colony Records, uner date of 6 Oct. 1659, have the following: "Conserning a certaine woman, viz", the wife of John Spring, of Watertowne, which was somtimes the wife of Thomas Hatch, of Scittuate, which said woman hath lived about three or foure yeares att Sicttuate from her husband, the Court have ordered, that shee either repaire to her husband with all convenient speed, or to repaire to Duxburrow to the house of Mr Alden, on the twentyeth of this p'sent month of Octobert, to give a reason why shee doth not; and incase shee shall refuse to attend this order, the Court will take a speedy course to send her to her said husband."† Evidently she satisfied the authorities as to her reasons for living apart from her husband, for in 1665 she was still living in Scituate, when, as Lydia Spring, she took oath to the statements which her son-in-law, Jonas Pickles, made to her as to his wishes regarding the disposition of his property after his death.
  • Children:
  • i. .... etc.
• Pg.257
  • v. ALICE, bapt. at Tenterden, co. Kent, 25 Sept. 1636; emigrated with her parents to New England; m. (1) at Scituate, 23 Dec. 1657, JONAS PICKLES, who d. between 15 Dec. 1664, when he made his nuncupative will, and 27 Sept. 1665, when his mother-in-law, Lydia ( —— ) (Hatch) Spring, took oath about the satements that he had made to her as to the disposition of his property; m. (2) at Scituate, in Dec. 1665, THOMAS ROOSE. Children by first husband, b. at Scituate: 1. Jonas, b. 5 Feb. 1658/9; d young. 2. Mercy, b. 28 Dec. 1660. 3. Nathan, b. 28 Jan. 1661/2. 4 Jonas, b. 10 Mar. 1663/4. 5. Lydia, b. 10 Apr. 1665. Children by second husband, b. at Scituate: 6. Thomas, b. 10 Sept. 1666. 7. Patient, b. 31 Mar. 1668/9 [sic]. 8 Hannah, b. 23 May 1669 [sic].
  • vi. .... etc. ____________________

http://ntgen.tripod.com/bw/rose_index.html

Descendants of Widow Joanna (_?_) Rose

1   Joanna 1630 -

.. +[Thomas?] Rose 1630 - 1674

     ........ 2   Thomas Rose 1660 - 1743

     ............  +Hannah Allyn 1658 - 1746

     These children all named in Thomas Rose's will:

     .................. 3   Joanna Rose 1681 - 1761

     ......................  +Edward Avery 1676 - 1759

     .................. 3   Thomas Rose 1683 - 1733

     ......................  +Mary Gates 1676 - 1737

     .................. 3   Dorcas Rose 1685 -

     ......................  +Nathaniel Bellows 1676 - 1759

     .................. 3   Hannah Rose 1687 - 1724

     ......................  +Samuel Sterry 1674 - 1734

     .................. 3   Deborah Rose 1689 - 1770

     ......................  +Samuel Partridge 1687 - 1744

     .................. 3   Mary Rose 1691 -

     ......................  +Henry Pelton 1694 -

     .................. 3   Joseph Rose 1693 - 1770

     ......................  +Sarah Pelton 1693 -

     .................. 3   Damaris Rose 1695 -

     ......................  +Gates 1695 -

     .................. 3   Elizabeth Rose 1697 -

     ......................  +Killam 1697 -

     .................. 3   Sarah Rose 1699 - 1743

     ......................  +John Killam 1692 -

Thomas Rose

     Born:  Prob about 1660. Oldest known marriage or child of the children of Thomas of which I am aware was the marriage of his daughter, Joanna, to Edward Avery on June 03, 1699. This should mean he was born, at the latest, 1699 less 36 years, at 18 years per generation, or 1663. He died in 1643, which would make him 80, if born at that time. Round to about 1660. Torrey estimates 1653, Sterry Genealogy 1655.

Immigration: Unknown.

Spouse: Hannah Allyn, daughter of immigrant and neighbor, Robert Allyn of New London and Norwich, Conn. Probably by 1680, Torrey gives "Sep 16, 1680?". I don't know the source for that date. Torrey shows first child born 1681? Earliest grandkids born probably about 1705, which easily fits a 1680 marriage date.

The proof for this relationship is reported to be in Robert Allyn's will or estate papers, of September 20, 1683, where he referred to her as Hannah Rose, but I have not yet seen a transcription or copy of that will. She survived Thomas and died three years later on January 05, 1746. History of New London, Connecticut, by Frances Manwaring Caulkins, 1895

Occupation: Unknown, probably a farmer, possibly with livestock. He seems to have had a fairly large estate for the times, which raises the question of whether he dabbled in real estate.

Death: April 19, 1744 from the Sterry Genealogy, reported by others to be November 20, 1743, New London Co, Conn, but I have not find that date or event in the Barbour Collection. These dates may be coming from dates in his estate packet.

Estate/Will: Per Caulkins, History of Norwich, "he died in 1743, leaving an estate valued at 2,498 pounds."

     See the Will of Thomas Rose

Children: He named eight daughters (two deceased, apparently both with heirs) and two sons (one deceased, with heirs) in his will.

Thomas Rose was included in list of sketches of "others having original home-lots and all the privileges of first proprietors" in History of Norwich, Connecticut, by Frances Manwaring Caulkins, 1874.

     "Rose. Thomas Rose was an early settler in the southern part of Preston. His name acquired notoriety from the situation of his dwelling house. A large oak tree near the house was a noted boundary mark between Norwich and New London, standing as a stately warder precisely at the southeast corner of Norwich. It was directly upon the line running east from the head of Poquetannock Cove to the bounds of Stonington, and is referred to in several surveys, acts, and patents."

The History of Norwich goes on to add:

     Pg 261, "(in a description of property being added to New London)... "thence upon a direct line to an oak tree marked and standing near the dwelling house of Thomas ROSE."

     Pg 354, "Zacharia Maynard, or Mayner, purchased a farm in 1697, near Robert ALLYN and Thomas ROSE, (in Ledyard). His wife was a daughter of Robert Geer."

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References

• http://sites.rootsweb.com/~brouwergenealogydata/Freeman/p191.htm#i6293 cites
• [S165] Frank Sylvester Parks, Genealogy of the Parke Families of Connecticut (Washington, D.C.: S. F. Parks, 1906), p.36. Calls him Thomas Rose of Norwich. Hereinafter cited as Parke of Conn.. Https://archive.org/details/genealogyofparke00inpark.
• [S140] Frances Manwaring Caulkins, History of Norwich, Connecticut: From Its Possession by the Indians to the Year 1866 (New London?: The Friends of the Author, 1874), page 156. Hereinafter cited as History of Norwich, Conn.
• [S140] Frances Manwaring Caulkins, History of Norwich, Conn., page 250.
• [S2033] Jacquelyn Ladd Ricker, The Ricker Compilation of Vital Records of Early Connecticut (Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Corp., 2006), page 10939. Preston VR. Hereinafter cited as Ricker Compliation.
• [S156] Elroy McKendree Avery and Catherine Hitchcock (Tilden) Avery, The Groton Avery Clan (Cleveland: n.pub., 1912). Hereinafter cited as Groton Avery Clan. http://archive.org/details/grotonaveryclan01aver