William Smith

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Parent marriage possibilities

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William Smith
Mary Williams
Both otp
15 Jun 1807
Lambeth St Mary
By Banns

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William Smith
Mary Palmer
Both otp
20 Sep 1813
Lambeth St Mary
By Banns

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William Smith
Mary Fisher
09 May 1815
Married in Lambeth
Residence Lambeth, Surrey
Both otp
By Licence
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William Smith
Mary Williams
15 Jun 1807
Married in Lambeth
Residence Lambeth, Surrey

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Possible siblings

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(many more listed)
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Joseph Smith
Baptism = 21 Sep 1823
Residence = Lambeth, Surrey
Parents = William & Mary Smith
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David Smith
Baptism = 04 Sep 1825
Residence = Lambeth, Surrey
Parents = William & Mary Smith
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Mary Smith
Baptism = 26 Feb 1826
Residence = Lambeth, Surrey, England
Father = William Smith
Mother = Mary
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1819 - Christening possibilities

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All at St Mary's, Lambeth
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27 June 1819 William Smith parents : William Smith & Mary <<<< this one
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11 July 1819 William Smith parents : Benjamin Smith & Rose
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7 Nov 1819 William John Smith parents : William Smith & Sarah
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William John Smith got married in Lambeth in 1845 to Mary Ann Tombs.
Looks like he is off the list. Leaves Benjamin & Rose or William & Mary.
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1819 - Birth

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St Mary Lambeth 27th June 1819 baptism William Smith

• parents William and Mary
• address Grays Walk
• fathers occ. Brewers servant.

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Newspaper possibility

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..... lhe lady of William Smith, esq. of a son and heir. ....
20 October 1819 - London Moderator and National Adviser - London, London, En
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....I he lady of William Smith, mg. of a son and heir. ....
24 October 1819 - National Register (London) - London, London, England
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1819/20 - Deaths of alternates

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(FMP - Burials 1777 - 1838 Surrey, England)
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• Smith William 1819 1823 St Mary, Lambeth
• Smith William 1820 1821 St Mary, Lambeth

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WILLIAM SMITH
Birth = 1819
Death = 1823
Burial = 1823, Jan 31
AAD = 4 [implies birth range = Jan 1818..Jan 1819]
Place LAMBETH
Church St Mary
Residence Stockwell County
Surrey Record set St Mary, Lambeth burials 1777 - 1838
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WILLIAM SMITH
Birth = 1820
Death = 1821
Burial = 1821, Oct 18
Place LAMBETH
Church St Mary
Residence Lambeth Walk
County Surrey
Record set St Mary, Lambeth burials 1777 - 1838
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Assume the stated birth year of 1820 is derived from an AAD = 1.
This would mean true birth range = Oct 1819...Oct 1820. Doesn't help us!
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1837 - Prison?

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Name: William Smith
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Date of Trial: 26 Jun 1837
Trial Year: 1837
Location of Trial: Surrey , England
Sentence: Imprisonment - "Larceny", "@ months" [some number, illegible]
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This appears to be an alternate as he eventually gets transported to Australia.

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Two couples!

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There are two couples named William & Martha Smith in Shoreditch 1850s.
She is formerly Mary Searle.
They have children Martha 1838 and William 1840 just like our family!
Father is a brass finisher. Boh parents come from MSX.
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There is also a Smith/May couple in Shoreditch that had Isabella Minnie Smith 1854.
Seem to be no siblings for this child
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1838 - Marriage

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23rd September 1838 <

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[he would have to be 19 for this to be correct]
St John Paddington
FreeBMD calls this Kensington
The district Kensington spans the boundaries of the counties of London and Middlesex
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William Smith

• minor [fits, see above]
• shoemaker
• 40 Praed St

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father

• William Smith
• a painter

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Martha May

• minor <

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  [implies birth year later than 1818]
• 28 Praed St.

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Father

• (no forename given) May
• a Sawyer

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Witnesses

• James Bott - James Bott was a regular witness.
• Sarah Smith
• Jane Smith - marked with cross rather than signed. <

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  [how are the witnesses related to William?]

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William signed his name, Martha made a cross.
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1839 - Birth of daughter Martha

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Baptisms at St James Westminster
24 Feb 1839,

• born Jan 31 Martha,
• parents William + Martha Smith,
• Litt. Windmill St,
• father a Shoemaker,

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(GRO)
SMITH, MARTHA
MMN = MAY
1839 Jan-March
SAINT JAMES WESTMINSTER
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1840 - Birth of son William

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Baptisms at St James Westminster
Baptism: 31 May 1840,
born April 25
William,

• parents William + Martha Smith,
• Upper Rupert St,
• Servant,

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(GRO)
SMITH, WILLIAM
mmn = MAY
1840 Apr-Jun
SAINT JAMES WESTMINSTER
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1841 - acquittal??

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Not guilty on Larceny charge
Sentence a few days earlier was for 10 years transportation
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1841 - Death of young Martha? (No)

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Probably wrong person as inconsistent with 1841 census entry
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Martha Smith

• buried 8 Feb 1841
• age 2 [implies birth before 8 Feb 1839 - out by two weeks]
• at St Margaret Westminster
• address was Gardeners Lane.

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Children from GRO:

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SMITH, MARTHA MMN = MAY 1839 M Quarter SAINT JAMES WESTMINSTER
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SMITH, WILLIAM MMN = MAY 1840 J Quarter SAINT JAMES WESTMINSTER
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SMITH, MARY ANN MMN = RAY 1843 M Quarter WESTMINSTER - NO!
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SMITH, JOHN MMN = RAY 1846 M Quarter WESTMINSTER - NO!
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1841 - Pretty certain now

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Middlesex
St James Clerkenwell
Amwell
Finsbury
Margaret Street
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William Smith 20 [1816-1820] born MSX Last Maker
Martha Smith 17 [1823] born MSX
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A 'last' is a mechanical form shaped like a human foot.
It is used by shoemakers and cordwainers in the manufacture and repair of shoes.
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1843 - Transportation????

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Name: William Smith [William Gee]
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Date of Trial: 11 Sep 1843
Trial Year: 1843
Location of Trial: Surrey , England
Sentence: Transportation
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"Larceny before court of felony" 7 years
[the word Transportation does not appear on page]
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1844 - Prison?

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5 Feb 1844 Surrey, England Central Criminal Court
William Smith born 1819 Surrey
sentenced to one year for "house stealing"
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1851 - William - first certain data

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82 Regent Street, St James Westminster, London & Middlesex
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Smith, William Head Mar 31 1820 Lambeth, Surrey Billiard Table Keeper
Smith, Maria Wife Mar 31 1820 Berkshire,
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O'Hard, Edward Srv Unm 17 1834 Lambeth, Surrey, Errand Boy
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Children dead by this time.
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William's business - From PO Directories re 82 Regent Street:

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1851

• Parkyn Mrs Caroline, Milliner
• Smith, William, billiard rooms

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1856

• Fossett & Wenkheim tailors & outfitters
• Smith, William, billiard rooms

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1859

• Fossett & Wenkheim tailors & outfitters
• Smith, William, billiard rooms

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1869

• Fossett & Wenkheim tailors & outfitters
• Smith, William, billiard rooms

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1852 Oct

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- claimed adulterous relationship starts  

- claimed EM Younger moves in with William Smith, 82 Regent St 

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1854 - more children to first wife May

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GRO
SMITH, HENRY JAMES
mmn = MAY
1854 Sep Quarter
THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT
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ANCESTRY
Henry James Smith
BIRTH DATE: 8 Jun 1854
BAPTISM PLACE: Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London
FATHER: William Smith
MOTHER: Martha
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NO! Proven to be child of other couple.
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SMITH, ISABELLA MINNIE
mmn = MAY
1854 S Quarter
THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT
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1861 - William & Eliza

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12, Greek Street, St Anne, Strand, London & Middlesex
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SV = Servant
WestM = Westminster
MSX = Middlesex
SUR = Surrey
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Smith, William Head Mar 41 1820 SUR, Lambeth, Proprieter Of Billiard Room
Smith, E M Wife Mar 34 1827 MSX, Hackney,
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Smith, B G Son Unm 3 1858 MSX, St James, WestM,
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Bean, M A Visitor Unm 4 1857 MSX, St James, WestM,
Watkins, Elza SV Unm 19 1842 MSX House Servant
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1861 - William & Martha

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7, Picket Street, St Clement Danes, Strand, London & Middlesex
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Smith, William Head Mar 41 1820 Lambeth, Surrey Billiard table keeper
Smith, Martha Wife Mar 38 1823 Brimpton, Berkshire
Smith, Henry Jas Son Unm 6 1855 Dalston, Middlesex
Smith, Charlotte ... Unm 48 1813 Middlesex Domestic servant
Stewartson, Margaret Servant Unm 14 1847 Greenwich, Kent Nursemaid
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1871

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SV = servant
MSX = Middlesex
SUR = Surrey
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Thames Street, Sunbury, Staines, Middlesex & Surrey
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Smith, William Head 51 1820 SUR, Lambeth Licensed victualler
Smith, Elizabeth Wife 42 1829 MSX, Hackney,
Smith, Benton Gooch Son 13 1858 MSX, St James, Westminster,
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Mehew, William SV 29 1842 Oxfordshire, Coachman
Fox, Mary Ann SV 19 1852 Huntingdonshire General servant
Wells, Richard SV 10 1861 Kent,
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1871 - Martha ***** with grandson

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St Mary, Newington, London, Cooks Road, Lambeth
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BRK = Berkshire
MSX = Middlesex
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Smith, Martha wife 47 1824 BRK, Brimpton, occ Annuitant
Smith, Henry son 16 1854 MSX, Dalston no occupation
Richards, William grandson 9 1861 Islington
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From Rootschat
Couple of baptisms in Islington St Mary
[1]
William bap 18 Oct 1863 parents William and Elizabeth
Possible birth reg Sep 1863 Islington MMN Giles
[2]
William John bap 3 Feb 1861
parents William and Jane
Possible birth reg Mar 1861 Islington MMN Brookes
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1881

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Windsor Villas, Twickenham, Brentford, Middlesex
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MSX = Middlesex
SUR = Surrey
ESX = Essex
OXF = Oxfordshire
WDW = Widow
SG = single
ADS = adopted son
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Smith, William Head Mar 61 1820 SUR, Lambeth, - Club Manager
Smith, Elizabeth Martha Wife Mar 51 1830 ESX, Shackawell
Smith, Herbert Herbert ADS Sg 7 1874 SUR, Thames Ditton,
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Manstone, Rose Domestic Sg 18 1863 Dorset, Dorchester, - General Servant
Bennett, John Lodger Sg 34 1847 MSX, Hampton, - Merchants City
Hadland, Elizabeth Visitor WDW 74 1807 OXF, Heston, - Retired Bakers Wife
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1891

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Grosvenor Terrace, Twickenham, Brentford, Middlesex, ST MARYS Brentford
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MSX = Middlesex
SUR = Surrey
Grd-Dgtr = Granddaughter
Wdwr = Widower
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Smith, William Head Mar 71 1820 MSX, London, Clerk Plume Club London
Smith, Elizabeth Wife Mar 63 1828 Hackney, Shackelwell
Smith, Elizabeth Grd-Dgtr 7 1884 SUR, Camberwell
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Brown, Sarah Servant Sg 21 1870 MSX, Twickenham, Domestic Servant
Barton, Thomas Lodger Wdwr 73 1818 MSX, London, Retired Journalist
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The Plume Club was at 11 Leicester Place, Leicester Square. (from rootschat)
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Not found in 1901.
Presume both husband and wife died in the intervening decade.
The date of death I have assigned simply indicates which two censuses he died between.

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Possible deaths - must match Mar 1819 - Mar 1820

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[] new possibilities
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[] Hanover Square:
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SMITH, WILLIAM 71 [1820]
1891 J Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 358
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SMITH, WILLIAM 79
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 339
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SMITH, WILLIAM 80
GRO Reference: 1899 D Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 335
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SMITH, WILLIAM 75
GRO Reference: 1894 J Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 269
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[] others
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SMITH, WILLIAM 72
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 501
SMITH, WILLIAM 72
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 675
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SMITH, WILLIAM 73
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D
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SMITH, WILLIAM 74
GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 414
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SMITH, WILLIAM 78
GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in WANDSWORTH
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SMITH, WILLIAM 73
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 331
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dismissed

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SMITH, WILLIAM AAD = 71 [April 1819 - June1820]
1891 J Quarter in BRENTFORD

NO! Purchased death cert shows other person

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SMITH, WILLIAM AAD = 77 [Sept 1818 - Dec 1819]
1896 D Quarter in BRENTFORD

NO! Purchased death cert shows other person

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SMITH, WILLIAM AAD = 75 [April 1820 - June1821] Incorrect birth date
1896 J Quarter in BRENTFORD
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1863 coach incident

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Some say he is the William Smith that drove the coach for Queen Victoria
and injured her when he tipped the coach over while driving drunk!
But this story is totally inconsistent with what else we know about William Smith.
Ours was a pub owner with a wife and child before and after the Queen incident.
I don't believe he could change jobs so radically back and forth to make this happen.

• ** I found a record for a William Smith, coachman, separate from our family line.

October 7th 1863, about 7pm. Country road near Balmoral.
(I have the story in a separate document)

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LOOKALIKE FAMILY

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1841 - Lookalike family????

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Pitt Street, St Mary Lambeth, Lambeth, London & Surrey
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Mary Lacey 50 1791 Surrey
Eliza Lacey 20 1821 Surrey
Henny Lacey 15 1826 Surrey
Samuel Lacey 11 1830 Surrey
Mary Paul 20 1821 Surrey
John Neal 25 1816 -
Elizabeth Neal 25 1816 -
John Neal 4 1837 Surrey
William Neal 2 1839 Surrey
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Martha Smith 22 1819 - "Ind"
Martha Smith 2 1839 -
William Smith 1 1840 -
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All not born in county
Ind = 'independent means'
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1851 - Lookalike family !!!!!!!

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Birth places and birth dates for parents wrong.
But children MMN = May.
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Saint John The Evangelist, Middlesex Westminster 5 Romney Street
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WestM = Westminster
MSX = Middlesex
SUR = Surrey
Mar = Married
Dgtr = Daughter
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Smith, William Head, Mar 36 [1814] MSX, WestM, St John Brass Finisher
Smith, Martha Wife 33 [1817] MSX, WestM, St Martins
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Smith, Martha Dgtr 12 [1838] MSX, WestM, Saint John <<<<<<<<
Smith, William Son 10 [1840] MSX, WestM, Saint John <<<<<<<<
Smith, Mary Dgtr 8 [1842] MSX, WestM, Saint John
Smith, John Son 5 [1845] MSX, WestM, St Anns
Smith, Edward Son 2 [1848] SUR, Lambeth
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Possible significant weddings

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marriage: 6 June 1841 Lambeth, Surrey,

• William Jr. Smith
• Hannah Jennings

father: William Smith
other: John Jennings
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marriage: 10 August 1842 St. Mary'S, Lambeth, Surrey,

• William Smith
• Sophia Maria Wastell

father: William Smith
other: Peter Wastell
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1860 - Red Herring match with grandson,

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1871 shows family father = Frederick Smith (son William Smith present)
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SMITH, WILLIAM MMN = RICHARDSON 1860 J Quarter ISLINGTON
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William Richards [sic] appears with Martha May in 1871 (b. 1861/62)
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ALSO
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SMITH, THOMAS MARRIOTT MMN = RICHARDSON 1862 D Quarter ISLINGTON
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SMITH, ESTHER MMN = RICHARDSON 1858 J Quarter ISLINGTON
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SMITH, SARAH ANN MMN = RICHARDSON 1862 S Quarter ISLINGTON
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Possible connection (grandson and adopted son investigation)

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1864 S Quarter RICHARDS, HERBERT WILLIAMS MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
1866 M Quarter RICHARDS, FLORENCE ELIZABETH MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
1868 S Quarter RICHARDS, ETHEL MAY WARD MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
1870 M Quarter RICHARDS, ALICE MAUD WILLIAMS MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
1871 D Quarter RICHARDS, SYBIL EMILY MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
1874 M Quarter RICHARDS, MABEL MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
1877 M Quarter RICHARDS, HENRY WILLIAM MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
1878 S Quarter RICHARDS, KATE MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
1879 J Quarter RICHARDS, GERALD JOHNSON MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
1881 M Quarter RICHARDS, MAUD MAY MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
1888 D Quarter RICHARDS, LOUISA LEA JESSIE MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
1899 D Quarter RICHARDS, WILLIAM JOSEPH MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
1901 J Quarter RICHARDS, SIDNEY CHARLES MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
1901 M Quarter RICHARDS, VICTORIA ALEXANDRA CLARA MMN = SMITH ISLINGTON
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