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Dear Linda Zimmerman (Sibley),
In response to your inquiry in the ATTENTION Curators, please assist discussion, I have extricated what I think are two different Graham families from David Graham.
This includes James Graham, 9th of Fintry, which was clearly incorrect as he was a Scottish lord and had nothing to do with colonial U.S.
I also unmerged David Graham, who as an Irish immigrant to South Carolina and married a Janet.
This leaves David Graham (1742-1768) and as the husband of Jane with three children: Judge John Graham, Joseph R Graham and Florence (Graham) Patton.
Please take a look at the family as it currently stands. There is probably still work to do in David's tree.
Sincerely, Tamas
https://www.geni.com/discussions/201500?msg=1327304
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LSZ
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From Michael (Graham) Moser:
I have spent years researching this family and don't "own" their information. My Graham line actually follows Christopher's brother-James Sr. who arrived in America in 1720. In researching my Graham line, I have found that descendants of these two brothers married each other decades down the line. One marriage was in Louisville in the mid-1860's. The other was after 1870 in Nebraska.
I have determined that James had at least six children in his two marriages. The hardest to track down historically was his son ROBERT whom Dr. CC Graham refers to in his biographical sketch. I believe I have him identified through circumstantial evidence and review of history.
Actual lineage of Florence Graham and her brother Judge John Graham. They both do descend from American Patriarch Christopher Graham but through his son John Sr. NOT his son William as has been surmised by the 1899 author David Graham; repeated by historian Dr. Willard Rouse Jillson, and then copied by family descendant and historian-Karen Salisbury.
As you know, John Sr. moved to Virginia in the early 1740's and took up 696-acres of land on the Calf Pasture River. He there raised his children and grandchildren. His second son-John Jr. and third son-James each had sons (their eldest) they named JOHN for their father-John Sr. Both of these sons were born c. 1750 and are named in John Sr.'s will with an inheritance. James is not given an inheritance in John Sr.'s will. He was a Knox (1769-1774) Kentucky Long Hunter and was probably in Kentucky when his father died. John Sr.'s will mention's Rebecca (Robinson) who almost assuredly was James' wife and John Sr.'s daughter-in-law. Joseph Robinson as a teste to the will was there to make sure Rebecca's interest in the will were maintained. James's son John is mentioned twice in John Sr.'s will: 1) for a cash inheritance, 2) for a cow (with Rebecca) indicating there are other minor children who will need milk. Only three of John Sr.'s many grandchildren are mentioned in his 1771 will indicating they only had reached the age of majority (21) and could accept an inheritance. This would have put their births by or before 1750. (*Florence was born in 1755 and is not mentioned in the will.)
When John Sr.'s brother-William died, John Sr. was granted guardianship of William's two youngest sons: COL James and David (born to his second marriage to Jane Mays). These two young men would have been raised alongside their first cousins (children of John Sr.) almost as siblings. COL James (b. 1740) and David (b. 1741-birth year proven) were about 10-15 years younger than their cousins John Jr. and James. COL James later married his cousin Florence and also became the "in-law" of these same cousins.
William's son David served in Preston's Rangers with is first cousin-John Jr. and his Uncle Robert Graham during the French and Indian War. David married his cousin Jane Walkup, a daughter of Joseph Walkup who was married to one of Christopher's daughters. David and Jane had only ONE SON (Joseph) who was named for his maternal grandfather-Joseph Walkup. When David died, John Graham Jr. obtained guardianship of his younger second cousin-Joseph Graham. Joseph, like his father, was raised amongst his cousins on the original Calf Pasture homesite. John Graham Jr. later petitioned for Joseph Graham to obtain land for his father-David Graham's War service. (See page 310 of Virginia's Colonial Soldiers. Spells this out and states clearly that Joseph was David's ONLY SON.)
The author David Graham wrote his book as part of quest to both seek and capture information about his family. When David was born, his father was elderly. David didn't write his book until he was in the sunset of his life and first-hand sources were probably few if any. He knew a family member of his father's, named John Graham, had moved to Kentucky. Joseph had later gone to Kentucky to visit this John Graham. David Graham mistakenly believed this John Graham could have been his father's older brother without realizing instead he was an older cousin. He noted this in his 1899 book. Later, Dr. Willard Rouse Jillson took David Graham's book to be accurate in his portrayal that John Graham (Judge) was Joseph's older brother. He was not.
Jillson wrote an article for the Filson Club claiming Judge John Graham was the son of David Graham despite much of his evidence and history he cited in his article reinforced that it could not be true. Later, Karen Salisbury used David Graham's book and Jillson errant article to support her family genealogy placing William Graham as an ancestor of Judge John Graham.
James Graham was a significant figure, but has been overlooked by history for the most part. He floated down the Ohio River with George Rogers Clark in May of 1782 wit his new bride-Mary Ann Worthington. They would later have at least four children in Kentucky. James fought in the Western Campaigns during the Revolutionary War. James was at the Battle of Blue Licks (1782) where he was captured by Indians. The British held him captive until after the Revolutionary War. He moved his family to Nelson County, Kentucky and lived alongside other Graham family members descended from both John Sr. and William. He died there in June 1799. James' son Dr. Christopher Columbus Graham was a historical figure larger than life. In his 1872 biographical sketch in William B. Allen's book: History of Kentucky, he notes he had a brother named John who was prominent in his community and cited his wealth. It is easy to see that this was Judge John Graham by his description.
If you have any questions, please let me know.
Best regards,
Michael (Graham) Moser
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ctual lineage of Florence Graham and her brother Judge John Graham. They both do descend from American Patriarch Christopher Graham but through his son John Sr. NOT his son William as has been surmised by the 1899 author David Graham; repeated by historian Dr. Willard Rouse Jillson, and then copied by family descendant and historian-Karen Salisbury.
As you know, John Sr. moved to Virginia in the early 1740's and took up 696-acres of land on the Calf Pasture River. He there raised his children and grandchildren. His second son-John Jr. and third son-James each had sons (their eldest) they named JOHN for their father-John Sr. Both of these sons were born c. 1750 and are named in John Sr.'s will with an inheritance. James is not given an inheritance in John Sr.'s will. He was a Knox (1769-1774) Kentucky Long Hunter and was probably in Kentucky when his father died. John Sr.'s will mention's Rebecca (Robinson) who almost assuredly was James' wife and John Sr.'s daughter-in-law. Joseph Robinson as a teste to the will was there to make sure Rebecca's interest in the will were maintained. James's son John is mentioned twice in John Sr.'s will: 1) for a cash inheritance, 2) for a cow (with Rebecca) indicating there are other minor children who will need milk. Only three of John Sr.'s many grandchildren are mentioned in his 1771 will indicating they only had reached the age of majority (21) and could accept an inheritance. This would have put their births by or before 1750. (*Florence was born in 1755 and is not mentioned in the will.)
When John Sr.'s brother-William died, John Sr. was granted guardianship of William's two youngest sons: COL James and David (born to his second marriage to Jane Mays). These two young men would have been raised alongside their first cousins (children of John Sr.) almost as siblings. COL James (b. 1740) and David (b. 1741-birth year proven) were about 10-15 years younger than their cousins John Jr. and James. COL James later married his cousin Florence and also became the "in-law" of these same cousins.
William's son David served in Preston's Rangers with is first cousin-John Jr. and his Uncle Robert Graham during the French and Indian War. David married his cousin Jane Walkup, a daughter of Joseph Walkup who was married to one of Christopher's daughters. David and Jane had only ONE SON (Joseph) who was named for his maternal grandfather-Joseph Walkup. When David died, John Graham Jr. obtained guardianship of his younger second cousin-Joseph Graham. Joseph, like his father, was raised amongst his cousins on the original Calf Pasture homesite. John Graham Jr. later petitioned for Joseph Graham to obtain land for his father-David Graham's War service. (See page 310 of Virginia's Colonial Soldiers. Spells this out and states clearly that Joseph was David's ONLY SON.)
The author David Graham wrote his book as part of quest to both seek and capture information about his family. When David was born, his father was elderly. David didn't write his book until he was in the sunset of his life and first-hand sources were probably few if any. He knew a family member of his father's, named John Graham, had moved to Kentucky. Joseph had later gone to Kentucky to visit this John Graham. David Graham mistakenly believed this John Graham could have been his father's older brother without realizing instead he was an older cousin. He noted this in his 1899 book. Later, Dr. Willard Rouse Jillson took David Graham's book to be accurate in his portrayal that John Graham (Judge) was Joseph's older brother. He was not.
Jillson wrote an article for the Filson Club claiming Judge John Graham was the son of David Graham despite much of his evidence and history he cited in his article reinforced that it could not be true. Later, Karen Salisbury used David Graham's book and Jillson errant article to support her family genealogy placing William Graham as an ancestor of Judge John Graham.
James Graham was a significant figure, but has been overlooked by history for the most part. He floated down the Ohio River with George Rogers Clark in May of 1782 wit his new bride-Mary Ann Worthington. They would later have at least four children in Kentucky. James fought in the Western Campaigns during the Revolutionary War. James was at the Battle of Blue Licks (1782) where he was captured by Indians. The British held him captive until after the Revolutionary War. He moved his family to Nelson County, Kentucky and lived alongside other Graham family members descended from both John Sr. and William. He died there in June 1799. James' son Dr. Christopher Columbus Graham was a historical figure larger than life. In his 1872 biographical sketch in William B. Allen's book: History of Kentucky, he notes he had a brother named John who was prominent in his community and cited his wealth. It is easy to see that this was Judge John Graham by his description.
If you have any questions, please let me know.
Best regards,
Michael (Graham) Moser
Thank you! Although I descend from Christopher's brother James Sr.'s line, I have been fascinated with my research of Christopher's line. I've had this information about Judge John and his sister Florence for some time and had tried to provide it to researchers in Floyd Co., KY, but never could find the "right place" to give the information.
Do you know if anyone has found James (the long hunter) Graham's missing son Robert? Dr. CC Graham named him in his biographical sketch but seems to disappear from history. I believe I have found him, but I would love to compare notes with someone who has an interest in this line.
Also, for other researchers possibly in Kentucky (I live in Idaho): Many, many of the Grahams moved to Nelson Co., KY where they settled. These included descendants of two of Patriarch Christopher's sons: John Sr. and William. This area (Nelson/Green Counties) was settled heavily by the early famous 1769-1774 Knox Long Hunters. Including two known Grahams (James and William) (and I think a third-the man misnamed with the surname of "STOPHER" who was probably ChriSTOPHER Graham and had gone on the hunt with his Uncle James Graham), the famous Skaggs, and others. There they lived on land adjoining the Lincoln family. Both Dr. CC Graham and Mentor Graham note their experiences with the Lincoln's son-Abraham.
Until he retired in 1931, author - COL Benjamin Le Bree was the caretaker of the Judge Rowan Plantation (AKA: "My Old Kentucky Home") in Bardstown, Nelson County, KY. COL LeBree apparently kept papers on the various Graham families in Nelson County and the surrounding area. He apparently noted their relationships.
In Dr. Willard Rouse Jillson's 1939 paper to the Filson Club about Judge John Graham of Virginia and Kentucky, he repeatedly cited COL LeBree as a source for the Grahams. Jillson obviously had access to Le Bree's GRAHAM PAPERS to cite them as a primary source.
I called the Filson Club. They said the papers should be there (Louisville) at the Filson Club. They checked but could not find them. They said they could still be there, but they may be held with their loose papers. They invited me to come and look for them. Unfortunately, I live in Idaho and will probably never make it to Kentucky again (I went to basic training at Fort Knox during the Vietnam War). Le Bree's "Graham Papers" would be a gold mine of Graham family information that could probably answer many questions for the Grahams in Kentucky; especially in that region.
I offer this to any serious Graham researcher. These Le Bree papers would be invaluable for researchers. James Graham (father of Dr. CC, Judge John, Florence, and three others lived there). (William) Mentor Graham (The Man Who Taught Lincoln) lived there with his family and notes several encounters with his cousin Dr. CC Graham. Ensign Christopher (Stopher) Graham (a nephew of James Graham, the Long Hunter) moved there in 1791. Christopher was a son of John Sr.'s second son-John Graham Jr. Two of ENS Christopher's brother also moved there (William and James). There were numerous Grahams there but their relationships remain murky. It sounds like COL LeBree, as a noted, educated historian and author had these relationships figured out and documented.
Best regards,
Mike
Cemeteries of Augusta County,
graves are selected based on a birth possibly prior to 1840, any births after that will show up in the 1850 federal census.
- Old Lebanon Cemetery
- Mount Tabor Lutheran Church Cemetery
- Bethel Presbyterian Church Cemetery
- Mossy Creek Presbyterian Church Cemetery
Christopher Graham, of Bullpasture
1810 United States Federal Census
- Wm Grimes Augusta, Virginia 0 10, 45 and over. Page: 342, Ln-9
- Thomas Graham Augusta, Virginia 0 10, 45 and over. Page: 342, Ln-10
- Besey Grimes Augusta, Virginia 0 3, 16 thru 25. Page: 342, Ln-18 (Bottom of page)
- Philip Grimes Augusta, Virginia 0 3, 26 thru 44. Page: 343, Ln-1 (Top of page)
- John Graham Augusta, Virginia 0 2, 45 and over. Page: 344, Ln-15
- Robt Graham Augusta, Virginia 0 4, 26 thru 44. Page: 344, Ln-16
- James Graham Augusta, Virginia 1 7, 26 thru 44. Page: 344, Ln-17
- John Graham Augusta, Virginia 2 12, 26 thru 44. Page: 344, Ln-18
1840 United States Federal Census
- William Mcgraham Staunton, Augusta, Virginia 1 3, 20 thru 29, (1811-1820), Page: 8
- Benjamin Franklin Graham Augusta, Virginia 9 15, 20 thru 29, (1811-1820), Page: 55
1850 United States Federal Census
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Year: 1850; Census Place: District 2 and A Half, Augusta, Virginia; Roll: 934; Page: 321b
Family Number: 22
- Household Members Age
- Sarah Crouse 38
- Polly Ellinger 29
- Hannah Ellinger 27
- James W Graham 9
- Mary E Trager 9
- Margt W Elick 4
- Winfield S Graham 3
- Mary F Shirey 23
Year: 1850; Census Place: District 2, Augusta, Virginia; Roll: 934; Page: 242b
Family Number: 461
- Household Members Age
- William Graham 45
- James Graham 10
- Renia Graham 6
- Scott Graham 1
- Mary Graham 40
- Martha E Graham 11
- Mary J Graham 8
- Julian Graham 2
Year: 1850; Census Place: District 2, Augusta, Virginia; Roll: 934; Page: 286b
Family Number: 1080
- Household Members Age
- James W Furr 28
- James W Furr 3
- John E Furr 0
- Jane Furr 23
- Johnathan Graham 20
Year: 1850; Census Place: District 2 and A Half, Augusta, Virginia; Roll: 934; Page: 416b
Family Number: 1375
- Household Members Age
- Benjamin Franklin Graham 44
- Susan C Graham 38
- Margaret J F Graham 15
- Alice H Graham 7
- James W T Graham 5
- Elizabeth Graham 2
- Thomas L Hagsheau 22
- James B Smith 20
- Vincent L Churchman 25
- Joseph Layton 20
Year: 1850; Census Place: District 2, Augusta, Virginia; Roll: 934; Page: 310b
Family Number: 1404
- Household Members Age
- James Graham 9, Germany
- Winfield S Graham 3, Virginia
- Hannah Alinger 37, Virginia
- Mary Alinger 29, Virginia
- Sarah Alinger 39, Virginia
- Mary E Trage 9, Virginia
- Margaret A Click 4, Virginia
- Mary Shirey 23 , Virginia
Year: 1850; Census Place: District 2, Augusta, Virginia; Roll: 934; Page: 313a
Family Number: 1434
- Household Members Age
- George Eskridge 64
- Occupation: Steward D and D and Blind
- Alexander Eskridge 13
- Margaret Eskridge 59
- Anna E Eskridge 29
- Mary Eskridge 21
- John C Merrilet 38
- William C Merrilet 9
- Anna M Merrilet 42
- Job Turner 30
- Charles S Turner 1
- Mary Turner 39
- William C Graham 32
- H J Gray 27
Year: 1850; Census Place: District 2 and A Half, Augusta, Virginia; Roll: 934; Page: 425b
Family Number: 1507
- Household Members Age
- George Crobarger 75, Pennsylvania
- Occupation: Miller
- Elizabeth Crobarger 56, Virginia
- Henry H Crobarger 6, Virginia
- George M Page 26, Virginia
- Mary Graham 13, Virginia
- John Graham 8 , Virginia
Year: 1850; Census Place: District 2 and A Half, Augusta, Virginia; Roll: 934; Page: 436b
Family Number: 1669
Household Members Age
- Thomas Graham 33. Maryland
- Mary Graham 23. Maryland
- James M Graham 5. Maryland
- Mary J Graham 3, Virginia
- Susan J Graham 0, Virginia
- Jonathan Graham 31, Maryland
Dear Linda Zimmerman (Sibley),
In response to your inquiry in the ATTENTION Curators, please assist discussion, I have extricated what I think are two different Graham families from David Graham.
This includes James Graham, 9th of Fintry, which was clearly incorrect as he was a Scottish lord and had nothing to do with colonial U.S.
I also unmerged David Graham, who as an Irish immigrant to South Carolina and married a Janet.
This leaves David Graham (1742-1768) and as the husband of Jane with three children: Judge John Graham, Joseph R Graham and Florence (Graham) Patton.
Please take a look at the family as it currently stands. There is probably still work to do in David's tree.
Sincerely, Tamas