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Stamouer Status Tag - SV/PROG [Stamouer Status Etikette]

Project Tags

GENi DUAL South African Founding Ancestor (Stamouer) Status Tag

Project Aim: To aid Discussion

To help clear and resolve and explain the unique GENi DUAL cultural and biological Stamouer status signifying nomenclatures

Definitions:

  • SA = South Africa/Southern African Colony
  • Stam = A Surname line/Clan is 3 generations of descendants carrying the same family name.

Cultural Status Tag (Kulturele Status Etiket)

  • SV = Stamvader: Surname Line/Clan Patriarch ie. founder of a surname line of at least 3 generations in SA.
  • SV = 'n Stamvader is die stigter van 'n familienaam met ten minste 3 generasies se afstammelinge in SA.
  • SM = Stammoeder: Surname Line / Clan Matriarch - the wife of the Stamvader
  • SM = 'n Stammoeder is 'n Stamvader se huweliksmaat

Genetic Status Tag (Genetiese Status Etiket)

  • PROG = Biological Progenitor (Biologiese Stigter ) ie. founder of a bloodline in SA.
  • PROG = 'n Biologiese Stigter. Die groot mederheid stamvaders en stammoeders sal ook biologiese (genetiese) voorouers wees.

NB: A biological progenitor (PROG) will, in certain cases, lack the necessary cultural criteria for Stamvader (SV) status.

Let wel: 'n Biologiese stigter (PROG) sal nie in alle gevalle aan die nodige kulturele kriteria vir Stamvader (SV) status voldoen nie.

  • Y-PROG = Special Male Biological Progenitor (father's father's father..)
  • Y-PROG = Spesiale Manlike Biologiese Stigter
  • mtPROG = Special Female Biological Progenitor (mother's mother's mother...)
  • mtPROG = Spesiale Vroulike Biologiese Stigter

Many of our stamouers will hold both cultural and biological status’s.

Die groot mederheid stamouers sal albei kulturele en biologiese stigter-status behou.

  • SV/PROG
  • SV/Y-PROG
  • SM/PROG
  • SM/mtPROG

Qualifications (Kwalifikasies)

To qualify for a GENi status tag (suffix) one must meet the following criteria:

Om vir een van die volgende GENi stigter-status etikette te kwalifiseer moet 'n voorouer aan die volgende kriteria voldoen:

SV

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  • The Stamvader must have started a family line/clan (Stam) in SA. ie he is Grandfather to descendants carrying his name.
  • Die Stamvader moet die stigter van 'n familienaam in SA wees. bv. 'n Oupa wie se afstammelinge sy familienaam ge-erf het.

SV/PROG

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  • If those descendants were fathered by the SV, ie, carry his DNA he is also a PROG (SV/PROG), this will be the case 99,9% of the time.
  • Wanneer 'n stamvader se afstammelinge albei sy familienaam (SV) en Y-DNS (PROG) ge-erf het. Stamvaders behoort in 99.9% van gevalle ook die biologiese stigter (PROG) te wees.

PROG (biologiese stigter)

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Male (PROG) Biological Progenitor = Manlike (PROG) Biologiese Stigter

  • When is a male a PROG but not a SV
  • Wanneer is 'n man die Biologiese Stigter (PROG) maar nie die Stamvader nie?

1. If the PROG had descendants but he did not produce a family line/clan (Stam), ie. he did not have sons who also had issue. 1. Wanneer die biologiese stigter afstammelinge het wat nie sy familienaam dra nie, bv. hy het geen seuns gehad nie.

2. If the PROG had issue out of wedlock and those descendants did not take his surname. 2. Wanneer die biologiese stigter buite-egtelike afstammelinge het wat nie sy familienaam ge-erf het nie.

3. If the PROG's descendants were given up for adoption. 3. Wanneer die biologiese stigter se afstammelinge aangeneem is en nie sy familienaam dra nie.

4. If the PROG's elder brother had issue too... then the elder brother is the clan Stamvader. 4. Wanneer die biologiese stigter se ouer broer ook afstammelinge het... dan is die ouer broer die oorspronklike familienaam stigter (SV).

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Female (PROG) Biological Progenitor – Biologiese Stigter = Vroulike (PROG) Biologiese Stigter

  • The oldest known, most senior female to arrive in South Africa and to pass on her genes
  • Die eerste (en mees volwasse) vrou in SA wat haar gene (spesifieke mtDNS groep) aan haar afstammelinge oorgedra het

SM (Stammoeder)

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  • The wife of the Stamvader
  • Die huweliksmaat van die Stamvader

SM/PROG

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  • If she was the wife of the Stamvader and is also the oldest known, most senior female to arrive in SA and to pass on her genes, she is SM/PROG
  • Wanneer die Stamvader se huweliksmaat (SM) die heel eerste (en mees volwasse) vrou in SA was wat haar gene (spesifieke mtDNS groep) aan haar afstammelinge oorgedra het, dan is sy SM/PROG

Y-PROG

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  • Y-DNA Progenitor PROG who has living male descendants in a direct line.
  • Y-DNS Stigter is 'n manlike biologiese stigter (PROG) met Y-DNS erfgename (moderne afstammelinge in die manlike lyn).

mtPROG

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  • mtDNA Progenitor PROG who has living female descendants in a direct line.
  • mtDNS Stigter is 'n vroulike biologiese stigter (PROG) met mtDNS erfgename (moderne afstammelinge in die vroulike lyn).

SV/Y-PROG

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  • Y-DNA Progenitor PROG who has living male descendants in a direct line, and who is also the SV.
  • Y-DNS Stigter is 'n Stamvader (SV) en 'n manlike biologiese stigter (PROG) met Y-DNS erfgename (moderne afstammelinge in die manlike lyn).

SM/mtPROG

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  • mtDNA Progenitor PROG who has living female descendants in a direct line, and is also the SM.
  • mtDNS Stigter is 'n Stammoeder (SM) en 'n vroulike biologiese stigter (PROG) met mtDNS erfgename (moderne afstammelinge in die vroulike lyn).