Hannah Carter

Hannah was born about in Varina, Henrico County, Virginia. Hannah, widow of Giles Carter, died 1702 in Varina, Henrico, Virginia.

Biography

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Sewell-1509

Hannah Sewell daughter of William Sewell and his wife Elizabeth was born about 1665. She married Giles Carter Sr. about 1686 after his first wife Hannah Rowen had died. Hannah had one known child Giles Carter Jr. born about 1686. William Sewell gave Giles Carter Jr. a pony mentioned in the will of Giles Carter sr. also was a witness for Giles Carter Sr's will then chosen as his guardian by Giles Carter jr. Elizabeth Sewell died before William and William Sewell made Giles Carter his administrator and gave his entire estate to him and gave nothing to the other children of Giles Carter sr.. Giles and Theodorick are both named as sons by Giles Carter in his 1699 will but one appears to be a step son. Earlier Giles Carter sr had given each some land but clearly favors Giles Carter jr. by splitting his estate into two parts and giving half to Giles Carter jr and half to his mother, Hannah.

Family discussion

Estimated:

“I invite any and all to review and comment on my conclusions concerning the identity of Hannah (born about 1652), the wife of Giles Carter of Turkey Island, Henrico County, Virginia.

“Hannah married Giles in about 1670; and their children were:

• Theodorick (born about 1672),
• Susannah (born about 1674),
• Mary (born about 1676),
• Ann (born about 1678), and
• Giles Jr. (born after September 14, 1681).

Comments

From https://www.geni.com/discussions/190821?msg=1267830 Jan 2019:

“My theory is Giles Carter first married Hannah b. abt 1637 daugher of Henry Rowen of Weyanoake. In about 1660 she was likely a widow with child at the time Giles Carter married her and named the child Theodorick the name of his own father. James Crewes gave both Giles and Hanna the "LIFE" use of a house and 50 acres. This was set up as a lease for a grain of Indian corn per year a legal devise used by James Crewes because he could not give land in fee simple to a non. blood related person. Hannah signed her rights to the life use to William Randolph in 1684 so still living....the first wife of Giles Carter in 1684 but not much longer I think she died about 1685 and Giles Carter remarried to Hannah Sewell a much younger woman daughter of William Sewell and they had a son Giles Carter jr. b. abt 1686. There is also a gap in the ages of Giles Carter's children that suggests 2 wives. Those born before 1676 (James Cruse's will) probably a decade before and Giles Carter jr. born a decade after the will.
I used to believe one wife but a woman born in the early 1630's would have difficulty having a child late in life or about age 50.”

From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Crewes-7

Her parentage is unknown, but it has been widely spread across the internet that she was the daughter of James Crewes who was executed for his involvement in Bacon's Rebellion. In Crewes' will, he left generous bequests to the Carter family which suggests a familial relationship. However, his will names Mary, daughter of Giles Carter; Susan[nah] Carter; Hannah, wife of Giles Carter; Giles Carter; and Theodorick, a son of Hannah. He also left bequests to Daniel Price (who later married Susannah Carter), the balance going to his cousin, Mathew Crewes. There is no mention of a wife or children. Giles Carter is called his "loving friend Giles Carter."

Giles Carter married Hannah about 1668, Henrico, Virginia.

Their Children (all mentioned in father's will)

1. Theodorick Carter. Husband of Elizabeth (Williamson) Carter — married [date unknown] [location unknown]. Husband of Elizabeth Webb (Randolph) Carter
2. Susannah (Carter) (Price) Williamson
3. Mary (Carter) Davis
4. Ann (Carter) Davis (The marriage to Davis is supported by the will of Giles Carter. There are some that claim Ann was married to a James Osborne, however nothing has ever been found that supports this questionable claim.)
5. Giles Carter, Jr. Husband of Mary (Poval) Carter — married 1705 in Virginia

Will of Giles Carter: link

Evidence for Hannah’s parents: link

Disputed ancestry

Daughter of William Sewell ?

See https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Crewes-3 for discussion and also notes below. Said to have been a natural daughter of Capt. James Crewes

There is a recent (approx year 2000) attempt to show her as a daughter of Moriah Bland, {Fictional}

http://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I13958&tree=reynolds1

Although no official record has been found which names the parents of Hannah, wife of Giles Carter, a convincing accumulation of evidence indicates that Hannah was a daughter of James Crewes and a Native American woman. This conclusion is supported by the following evidence:

1. Contemporaneous records indicate that Hannah, wife of Giles Carter, was a daughter of James Crewes.

• a. The ages of James Crewes (born about 1621) and Hannah (born about 1652 are consistent with a father-daughter relationship.
• b. James Crewes was present in the vicinity of Turkey Island, and Henrico Co., Virginia during 1651 - the probably location of and year before, Hannah's birth.
• c. When Giles Carter exhibited James Crewes Will in court, he was exercising the traditional responsibility of a executor's next-of-kin.
• d. James Crewes bequest of a plantation for life to both Giles Carter and Hannah, considered in the contestof an era of limited female property rights, indicates the connection between James Crewes and the Carters centered upon a special relationship between James Crewes and Hannah
• e. James Crewes provided in his will for the Carter family as a father provided for his children and grandchildren, naming and ...

Links

• https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/carter/20101/ “perhaps Hannah Carter’s Mother was Quaker ...”

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Notes

1680/8/2, Crowes, James of Turkey Island, planter. will dated 1676/7/23. Mary Carter, dt of Giles Carter, 1000 lbs of tobacco. Susan Carter, 10,000 lbs tob & bedding “My man” Tom, freedom 3 yrs after my decease, 1 cow, 1 sow, and as much land as he tends for him and mother during life. Hannah Carter, wife of Giles, negro maid Keats. Daniel Prise, best suit & coat. Giles Carter, what he owes me & he to hold plantation I let him have, for life. If Hannah Carter dies, negro wench returned to Theodorick Carter, her son. Couzen Matthew Crews exor. Loving friend Giles Carter to live on my plantation, command my servants, make crops & give an account yearly to my exor. Colonial Wills Henrico Co. VA, 1654-1737, Weisiger, pg 6

From the combined work and analysis of Bill Husler and Shawn Potter, there is no longer any doubt Hannah was the (unlawful) daughter of Capt. James Crew / Crews / Cruse, Merchant.Separately, there is enough evidence to say that Giles Carter of Henrico was married twice:

An unknown manuscript on Josiah Carter of Virginia [now known to be from "Josiah Carter and His Forbearers" by Malone], Grandson of Thomas Carter Sr. appears to answer the confusion over Hannah.After his presumed indenture with William Fry who was on the northern border of Henrico County, Giles would have been eligible for marriage circa 1660 at age twenty-five:

"It is likely that as a young man Giles Carter was married to a daughter of John Rowen, since in a 1662 will he left the use of his house and land on a plantation to Giles for a year.Shortly thereafter Giles was well established in the eastern end of Henrico Co. near the Charles City Co. border.By 1676 he was married to Hannah Crewes, daughter of James Crewes".etc.

Hello Richard;

Thank-you very much for sending me the post-em you've created.I will certainly cull through the information you sent me.Some of it I have in my narratives on this family line which I'm attaching to the correspondence.
1 Jun 1686 Payments to Giles CARTER as his legacy from the estate of James CREWES, dec'd p 146 (Henrico Co. Colonial Records [D&W] 1677-1692, Vol 1, p 369) *** Fred - silrem@comcast.net

From the outstanding RootsWeb of Bill Husler:

December 1, 1652. James Crewes, merchant, now residing at ye house of one Mr. Pratley, a (?) cooper, in Rudolph Lane near little Eastchipp, London, aged 29 years or thereabouts, being produced as a witness on ye part and behalf of ye complainant in this case was showed in person to Mr. Martyn in Mr. Hale's office being ye clerk that deals for ye defendant in this case by William Bamfort one of ye sworn clerks of my office who hath also left a note of ye name, title, and place of abode of ye said deponent which ye said Mr. Martyn and (?). Afterward ye same day and year aforesaid, ye said deponent being sworn and examined deposes and saith: 1. That he about twice had seen ye complainant Mr. Martyn but has no acquaintance with him and does not know any of ye places named in ye title of ye (?) for debts in this case, but saith that he did know and was acquainted with Francis Gyles the reputed son of Mary Gyles, of Boughton Aluph in ye County of Kent in this (?) inquired of, was acquainted and did know him for ye span of a year or thereabouts before he died. 2. That he does very well know that ye said Francis Gyles did live sometime before he died (to whit) for ye span of one year and upwards in Virginia, and that ye said Francis Gyles did about ye month of August or September 1651 die in a place called Jordan's in Virginia [i.e., Jordan's Journey, Charles City County, Virginia] aforesaid and more deposes not (?) (?) (?). James Crewes. (Chancery Records-Town Deposition, Virginia Colonial Records Project, Survey Report Number 10005, Virginia State Library)

[This deposition demonstrates that James Crewes was present in Charles City County, Virginia, before the approximate year of Hannah's birth--1652.???]

December 17, 1655. The whole difference between Capt. David Peibils and James Crewes is referred to the award and final determination of Col. Edward Hill, Esq., Capt. Henry Perry, Esq., Mr. Thomas Drewe, and Mr. Anthony Wyatt, or an umpire by them or the major part of them elected, and to be done the 20th day of January next. (Charles City County, Virginia, Order Book, p. 25)

[James Crewes was a merchant who traded between Native Americans, Virginia colonists, and the markets of London.]

The presumption from the will of John Crewe is that Hannah was his unlawful daughter:

"[When James Crewes wrote his will, he was a leader in Bacon's Rebellion and must have known his life was in danger. Although he did not state his relationship with the Carters, he provided for them in a manner traditionally reserved for children and grand- children. This will is one piece of the whole body of evidence, which points to an unconventional father-daughter relationship between James Crewes and Hannah.]"

Marriage 1 Hannah Crewe b: 1638 ???

Theodrick Carter b: 1676 Suzanna Carter b: ABT 1650 Giles Carter b: 1672 Mary Carter Ann Carter

2 Feb 1701/2 Hannah CARTER was granted probate of the will of her husband, Giles CARTER.

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Excellent presentation:

Giles Carter's Wife, Hannah, b. 1652, VA Posted by: Shawn Potter Date: July 08, 2000 at 17:30:56of 17434on Carter GenForum

I invite any and all to review and comment on my conclusions concerning the identity of Hannah (born about 1652), the wife of Giles Carter of Turkey Island, Henrico County, Virginia. Hannah married Giles in about 1670; and their children were: Theodorick (born about 1672), Susannah (born about 1674), Mary (born about 1676), Ann (born about 1678), and Giles Jr. (born after September 14, 1681). __________________

My Conclusions:

Although no official record has been found which explicitly identifies Hannah's parents, circumstances indicate she was a daughter of James Crews and an unidentified Native American woman. This conclusion is supported by the following:

1. James Crews devoted most of his will to the family of Giles and Hannah Carter, naming and providing for each family member separately. Although he did not state his relationship to the Carters, he provided for them in a manner traditionally reserved for children and grandchildren. Later, when the Carters sold land inherited from James Crews, they both signed a deed which states that James Crews gave the land to "Giles and Hannah Carter." (*** Further details above) This additional information, that James Crews gave the land to Hannah as well as to Giles, considered in the context of an era of limited female property rights, highlights Hannah as the likely child of James Crews. James Crews' reluctance to clearly state that Hannah was his daughter, indicates an unusual aspect to their relationship--which is better understood in light of additional information.

2. James Crews may have married Margaret Llewellyn after August 10, 1654, when Margaret witnessed a deed signing her maiden name, and before February 6, 1664, when Margaret's father wrote his will, leaving his daughter, "Margaret Cruse," and "her husband" money to buy memorial rings. If so, Margaret must have died before James wrote his will on July 23, 1676.

3. The attorney for the executor of James Crews' estate testified that James Crews "left no widow or lawful child." The attorney's inclusion of the word "lawful" implies that James Crews left an "unlawful" child--one who was born outside of wedlock. This, in part, explains why James Crews was reluctant to clearly state in his will that Hannah was his daughter. The other part of the explanation comes from general information about white/non-white relations in Colonial Virginia as well as specific information about James Crews' associations.

4. The social consequences in Colonial Virginia for a white man having a child outside of wedlock depended upon the mother's heritage. Fines and corporal punishment for free white men and white women--whether servant or free, who had a child together outside of wedlock were clearly defined and strictly enforced. In contrast, fines and punishment for free white men and non-white women, who had a child together outside of wedlock were practically non-existent. So, since Hannah probably was a daughter of James Crews, who was born outside of wedlock, yet no court records document the conviction and punishment of James Crews and Hannah's mother for such a transgression, Hannah's mother probably was non-white.

5. Since James Crews willed a "negro maid" to Hannah, it is unlikely that Hannah's mother was African American.

6. Since James Crews "kept an Indian," Hannah's mother could have been Native American. With other alternatives eliminated, this mere possibility becomes a virtual certainty.

7. In summary, circumstances indicate that: (a) Hannah's father probably was James Crews (from his will and the Carter's deed), and (b) James Crews may have married Margaret Llewellyn (from Daniel Llewellyn's will), and (c) Hannah probably was born out of wedlock (from the attorney's testimony that James Crews left no "lawful" child), and (d) Hannah's mother probably was non-white (from strict Virginia statutes and enforcement yet no conviction and punishment), and (e) Hannah's mother probably was not African American (from James Crews' gift to Hannah of a "negro maid"), and (f) Hannah's mother could have been Native American (from James Crews' permit to "keep an Indian").

Taken as a whole, these circumstances indicate that Hannah's parents were James Crews and an unidentified Native American woman. __________________ I will post the evidence in a separate message. If anyone wishes to e-mail me directly, my e-mail address is shpxlcp@home.com

Additional Proof of James Crewes as Father of Hannah

December 10, 1677. Thomas Forehand and Dermot Enroughty depose that the will exhibited in court by Giles Carter is the same of Capt. James Crewes, deceased, that they were witness to. (Henrico County, Virginia, Wills and Administrations, part i, p. 1)

[Bill Husler: Giles Carter's possession and exhibition of the will--traditional responsibilities of the next-of-kin--indicate a unique relationship between James Crewes and the Carters. This record strengthens the case that Hannah was James Crewes' daughter.]

August 24, 1684. William Randolph, of Varina Parish, Henrico County, Gent., from Giles Carter and Hannah x, his wife, of Parish and county aforesaid, 20 pound sterling for 60 acres, which was by the last will and testament of Capt. James Crewes given unto said Giles and Hannah Carter, being part of ye dividend of land or plantation at Turkey Island of which said Crewes died seized, which tract of land or plantation is since purchased by said William Randolph of ye heir and executor of said Crewes, deceased, as by conveyance. Recorded April 1, 1685. (Valentine Papers, vol. iii, Randolph Family, p. 1392)

[Note of Bill Husler supports the identical logic from Shawn Potter in his posting of 8 July 2002 - where Shawn skillfully shows us that the attorney only said there were no lawful heirs and concludes that Hannah was illegitimate! ]

"This deed confirms that James Crewes gave the plantation to both Giles and Hannah. Hannah's inclusion as joint recipient of the land, considered in the context of an era of limited female property rights, supports the conclusion that Hannah was the daughter of James Crewes".]

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