John Price, Jr.

John Price was born about 1628 in Virginia. He died about 1662 at the age of 34. He was the son of John Price, Ancient Planter and wife Ann. It is believed that he married twice. There are numerous proposals as to the identity of these wives. (John’s wife / wives has no proved name at all - not a given name, not a surname.)

John and his brother Daniel sold 150 acres in 1677, land which was originally patented to the first John Price in 1619. Their uncle Matthew patented land on 23 May 1638; land that was on Turkey Island Creek, bounded by Bremo and the lands granted to his late father John Price and in possession of his mother Ann Hallom, widow. This land was due Mathew in right of his father.

A Deed in Henrico Co dated 18 Oct 1681 from Benjamin Hatcher to John Pleasants stated that he was selling a tract of land that had belonged to this father William Hatcher, which William Hatcher had purchased of Daniel & John Price in 1677. This land was known and called by the name of Turkey Island Pointe. A later deed made in Henrico Co in 1691 between John Gundry, son of John Gundry & Ann his wife who was a daughter of Robert Hallum and Ann Price Hallum, reveals Gundry was selling a tract which bounded on Turkey Island Creek, and with the land of John Pleasants, formerly belonging to John Price.

If Daniel and John Price inherited this land belonging to their grandfather, then that also proves that their father, John Price, was a son of the earliest John. The above deeds also make clear that Daniel and John did not inherit the same piece of property patented by their uncle Matthew, but the property that had been the original grant of John Price in 1619. It is not known what happened to the property of Matthew Price, nor if he had descendants.

Children of John Price:

• Daniel Price, born in 1648; died about 1692 at the age of 44, in Henrico County, Virginia
• John Price III, born about 1650 in Henrico County, Virginia.; died in May 1711 at the age of 61 in Henrico County, Virginia.

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Jamestown-South Carolina 1610/11-1784

Our Price Ancestors

A combination of DNA testing and the family ties to Daniel Guinn Price who is documented as a descendent of Daniel Price and Mary Guinn Price does in fact tie us to John Price who immigrated to Virginia around 1611. The physical and DNA ties to Daniel Guinn Price and his documented ties to Daniel and Mary Guinn Price are well established by the North Carolina Genealogical Society. Additionally, our DNA testing ties us to Cuthbert Price, a brother of Daniel making Cuthbert the uncle of our Thomas Price. Cuthbert Price's line through Daniel and Mary Guinn Price is well documented through the Vina Chandler Price book, "John Price, Immigrant to Virginia 1610-1611." [10]

We are in direct contact with the Daniel Guinn Price family and there is little question that the family of Thomas Price, his son Thomas Garland Price, and Daniel Guinn Price's son Thomas Alexander Price were extremely close as late as the early 1920s.

There are two issues between the descendants of the Daniel Price line and the Thomas Garland Price line, both sons of Thomas and Malinda. Those issues are the middle name of Daniel believed to be Darlington/Dardington. There are others that are either adamant or equally undecided he had no middle name. The second is the maiden name of Thomas Price's wife Malinda. The family in Mississippi is firmly convinced that her maiden name was Garland and the Daniel Price descendants are convinced that it was Jaggers. We had a professional researcher look into the Garlands and he found potential candidates in a nearby County. We have to say the jury is out because we can find E. Jaggers in Chester County in the 1830 Census with a daughter just the right age range to be Malinda. In this case we are beginning to believe that Jaggers may well have been her maiden name. However, if her maiden name was Jaggers, where did Garland come from?

In studying the Vina Chandler Price book you will find much of her documentation relies on census reports and on deeds and wills. Tracing our lineage back to John1 (the immigrant) we find that his son, also John2, is reported to have been a mariner and to have died and left his issue as orphans (sons Daniel and John2). When we follow that orphaned John2 Price that was born around 1662 in James City Virginia out to first Henrico then Goochland County we find that the properties associated with them were in almost every case associated with a waterway that subsequently was developed into a canal, the completion of which, saw their departure on to yet other rivers and canals to be built. [11]

In fact, when the family arrived in Chester County South Carolina we found significant canal building efforts underway on the Broad Run Rivers and the Catawba Rivers on the eastern and western borders of the county. At one point some of the family moved to Orangeburg County along the Santee River and Canal construction ensued there as well. [12]

Daniel Price the father of our Thomas Price, was born around 1784 in Chester County South Carolina and remained in Chester County all his life, dying there after 1850 (he appeared on the 1850 census). [13] Daniel's parents were Daniel Price b.1755 in Henrico County Virginia. He died in 1836 in Edgefield County South Carolina. It is interesting that Our Thomas was living there in 1840, already married to Malinda. This Daniel was married to Alice and we do not know her last name. We do have his will and it confirms her name although many researchers believe it was ALCE. She would be our Thomas Price's grandmother and her husband Daniel would be Thomas' grandfather.

Daniel Price's (1755) father was also Daniel Price and he was born around 1717 in Henrico County Virginia and died around 1801, also in Edgefield County South Carolina. His wife was Mary. Her last name is unknown but many researchers contend that it was Williamson. [14] Daniel Price's (1717) father was John Price. He was born about 1689 in Henrico County Virginia and married Hannah Williamson. John died in Goochland Virginia in 1751. [15] John Price's (1689) father was John Price born around 1660 in Henrico County Virginia. He married Jane Pugh (Pew). Interestingly, their son Pugh Price, John's (1689) brother was of the line of General Sterling Price.

John Price's (1660) father was John Price born 1622 in James City Virginia. He died in 1662. There is some controversy about the name of his wife. Some believe it was Jane Rowen and others believe that Jane married a Rowen after John died. [16]

John Price's (1622) father was John Price born 1585 in Brecton Wales. He was noble born and well educated as was his grandfather. Some believe he first married a woman named Mary who may not have been the mother of John (1622). Vina Chandler Price refutes this contention. John first immigrated to America in 1611 and was involved with the original Jamestown settlement. Some believe he returned to the United Kingdom after the death of his wife Mary and remarried a woman named Ann Matthews in 1619. Vina Chandler Price asserts Ann came to America around 1620 and that is where she met and married John. Ann is most likely the mother of John (1622). [17]

By 1840 we find Thomas Price along with others of the family in Edgefield County. Note that Thomas' father Daniel and Thomas’ older brother John remained in Chester County until they died (Daniel after 1850 and John after 1870). It appears the older brother John inherited the land and lived there with his mother and youngest sister until he died. With no land, Thomas pushed on to Edgefield where his grandfather and several uncles were. Thomas’ youngest sister, Mary, lived on the original place in Chester County until some point between 1880 and 1900 when she too apparently died. [18]

Our Aunt Mamie (Mary Jane) Price Parker was the oldest daughter of Thomas Garland Price and told the stories of "the old ones" through the 1930s. Her story about Thomas was that he owned great mules and horses that drew road grading and building equipment. In Edgefield County South Carolina, near Augusta Georgia the Augusta Canal system was actually started in the 1830s but the main canal construction did not begin until 1846 and was completed by 1847. The appearance of Thomas Price in Mississippi in close association with Greers, Gilberts, Westbrooks, and many other families that had also been around the building of the vital canal infrastructure associated with Augusta Georgia leads me to conclude that Thomas in all likelihood, was a canal builder as had been his father and grandfather and possibly more generations before them.

An additionally fascinating piece of work we picked up includes the Southern Claims Commission filing of Robert McDaniel. Robert McDaniel lived within 1/4 mile of Thomas and Malinda along the Houston Road in northern Oktibbeha County. This claim is a narrative of the destruction wrought on the families by the Benjamin H. Grierson Raid through Mississippi during 1863, prior to the fall of Vicksburg. Note that Thomas Price and Robert McDaniel both joined the Confederate Army shortly after these events. I find it incredible that Robert McDaniel's claim included several large mules and horses. Robert's wife Winifred McDaniel was a Westbrook before she was married and she received land from the estate settlement. There may be as yet undiscovered family ties between the Prices and Westbrooks.

[10] Price, Vina Chandler; John Price Immigrant to Virginia: 1610-1611. Published in 1988 for Vina Chandler Price by Gateway Press Inc., 1001 N. Calvert Street, Baltimore, MD 21202. [11] Price, Vina Chandler, John Price Immigrant to Virginia 1610/11, published 1988 by Gateway Press Inc., 1001 N. Calvert Street, Baltimore, MD 21202. Section I and Chapters 1 and 2 pages 1-18. [12] American Canal Society Web Site eg http://www.americancanals.org/South%20Carolina/Santee %20Cooper%20Canal.pdf [13] Price, Vina Chandler, John Price Immigrant to Virginia 1610/11, published 1988 by Gateway Press Inc., 1001 N. Calvert Street, Baltimore, MD 21202. Section IV and Chapters 14 and 15 pages 86 and 103. [14] Price, Vina Chandler, John Price Immigrant to Virginia 1610/11, published 1988 by Gateway Press Inc., 1001 N. Calvert Street, Baltimore, MD 21202, Section IV Chapter 14, pages 71 and 86. [15] Price, Vina Chandler, John Price Immigrant to Virginia 1610/11, published 1988 by Gateway Press Inc., 1001 N. Calvert Street, Baltimore, MD 21202, section IV, chapter 13, page 62-63 [16] Price, Vina Chandler, John Price Immigrant to Virginia 1610/11, published 1988 by Gateway Press Inc., 1001 N. Calvert Street, Baltimore, MD 21202, section 1, chapter 1, page 10. [17] Price, Vina Chandler, John Price Immigrant to Virginia 1610/11, published 1988 by Gateway Press Inc., 1001 N. Calvert Street, Baltimore, MD 21202, section 1, chapter 1, pages 1-10 [18] Galloway, David; Daniel Price Family Genealogy dated July 2005.

sandyn33added this on 11 Apr 2011

nbp12originally submitted this to Thomas Price on 9 Jul 2008

4. JOHN PRICE7,8 was born about 1628 in Virginia. He died about 1662 at the age of 34.

The identity of the wife of the second John Price is unknown. She may have been a sister of John and Henry Rowen as evidenced by the Will of John Rowen, 1662, Henrico Co. Another more likely possibility is that she might have married John Rowen after the death of John Price and he was the stepfather of the young Price boys. In his Will, John Rowen instructed his brother Henry to bring up the two sons of the deceased John Price and to manage their estates. He also made small bequests to the orphans, Daniel and John Price. Other bequests were made to his brother Henry, nephew John [son of Henry] and his own son Henry, as well as to Giles Carter. His brother-in-law Richard Ingram was asked to raise his son Henry.

At least one person has suggested that Giles Carter's wife Hannah was another Rowen and that is why he is mentioned in the will. I doubt that. I'm not sure she was old enough to have been married to Giles by 1662 - most estimate her birth as circa 1650. Of course if the estimate is wrong she could have been older. Then if she was older and married to Giles Carter as early as 1662, it seems her children would have been born earlier.

Here is an abstract of John Rowen's Will: 1 May 1662. Will of John Rowen. To nephew John Rowen, son of my brother, Henry Rowen, a cow. To my brother Henry, items, and he is to have the bringing up of the two sons of John Price, deceased, and the management of their estate. To the two orphans, Daniel and John Price, items. To Giles Carter, a cow and gift of a house and land on this plantation for one year, and then it to my brother Henry. All the rest to my son Henry. I desire he be brought up in the knowledge of letters by my brother-in-law Richard Ingram, whom I appoint as guardian and joint administrator to my estate with Francis Dancy. Said child to be in the care of Richard Ingram and his wife and they to dispose of timber and cattle as to be most advantageous to said child. I give to Mr. James and wife a choice of a yoke of oxen. Wit: Richard Parker, William Fisher, Margaret Crewes. Henrico Co VA Records, p.15.

ADVENTURERS OF PURSE AND PERSON states that John's wife was a daughter of John Wall, but then cites a deed that is for the John in the next generation. They did conclude that John Rowen was her second husband.

These sons of John Price, Daniel and John, sold 150 acres in 1677, land which was originally patented to the first John Price in 1619. Their uncle Matthew patented land on 23 May 1638; land that was on Turkey Island Creek, bounded by Bremo and the lands granted to his late father John Price and in possession of his mother Ann Hallom, widow. This land was due Mathew in right of his father. A Deed in Henrico Co dated 18 Oct 1681 from Benjamin Hatcher to John Pleasants stated that he was selling a tract of land that had belonged to this father William Hatcher, which William Hatcher had purchased of Daniel & John Price in 1677. This land was known and called by the name of Turkey Island Pointe. A later deed made in Henrico Co in 1691 between John Gundry, son of John Gundry & Ann his wife who was a daughter of Robert Hallum and Ann Price Hallum, reveals Gundry was selling a tract which bounded on Turkey Island Creek, and with the land of John Pleasants, formerly belonging to John Price.

If Daniel and John Price inherited this land belonging to their grandfather, then that also proves that their father, John Price, was a son of the earliest John. The above deeds also make clear that Daniel and John did not inherit the same piece of property patented by their uncle Matthew, but the property that had been the original grant of John Price in 1619. It is not known what happened to the property of Matthew Price, nor if he had descendants.

JOHN PRICE had the following children:

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i. DANIEL PRICE.

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ii. John PRICE.

• Reference: FamilySearch Genealogy - SmartCopy: Apr 13 2020, 20:19:51 UTC
• Ancestry.com. A brief visit with the old folks [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Original data:Taylor, George,. A brief visit with the old folks. La Grange, Ill.: unknown, 1975. “Price.” AncestryImage
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