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Oda von Sachsen

Nicknames: "Hathumoda /Oda of Metz/", "Ida - Hidda van Ezzo"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Südthüringau (within present Thuringia), Ostfrankenreich (Present Germany)
Death: Died in Ostfrankenreich (Present Germany)
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Otto I the Illustrious, Duke of Saxony and Hedwig of Babenberg
Wife of Gerhard II Graf im Metzgau, Herzog von Lothringen; Zwentibold, king of Lorraine; Gérard II, duke of Lorraine and Eberhard, Graf im Oberlahngau
Mother of Bertha de Metz; Benedetta Abbey of Susteren -; Cecilia Abbey of Susteren -; Relenda; Godfrey, count of Lorraine and 7 others
Sister of Thankmar von Sachsen (870-912); Heinrich I 'der Vogler' von Sachsen; Mechtild von Sachsen; Liudolf von Sachsen; Irminburga and 2 others
Half sister of (No Name)

Occupation: First Abbess of Brunshausen Nunnery ca 852, Abadesa del monasterio de Gandersheim, Abbedissa i Gandersheim, Queen Consort to King Zwentibold Carolingian of Lotharingia, (Oda de Saxe)(Uda (Liudolfing)), married King Zwentibold of Lotharinga
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About Oda von Sachsen

Ben M. Angel's summary:

Relationships:

Parents:

  • Otto "der Erlauchte" ("the Illustrious") von Sachsen (d. 912)
  • Hedwig/Hathui von Babenberg (850/855 - 903)

Siblings:

  • 1. Wife of Ekkehard I von Schwaben
  • 2. Thankmar (d. before 912)
  • 3. Liudolf (d. before 912), father of Ekkehard (von Meissen, d. 936)
  • 4. Heinrich I "der Vogelsteller/the Fowler" (c876-936), King of Germany (919-936)
  • 6. Liutgard/Dodica (d. 923), Abbess of Gandersheim
  • 7. Irminburg (d. before 936), wife of Siegfried, Procurator in Saxony

Spouses and children:

First Husband: Zwentibold, King of Lotharingia (870/871 - 900) deposed and killed in battle.

  • Possible 1. Benedicta (b. 897/901), Abbess at Süsteren
  • Possible 2. Cacilie (b. 897/901) Abbess at Süsteren
  • Possible 3. Relendis (b. 897/901)

Second Husband: Gerhard (870/875 - 910, from the Matfride family of Metz), Graf im Metzgau

  • 1. Wicfrid (d. 953), Archbishop of Köln (924-953), Arch-chancellor (950).
  • 2. Uda (d. 963), wife of Gozlin/Gozelon, Comte d'Ardenne
  • 3 Unknown daughter, wife of a Bavarian
  • 4. Gottfried (905/910 - 949), Graf im Jülichgau, husband of Ermentrude (speculated as daughter of Charles III "le Simple" of the West Franks and Frederuna)

Possible Third Husband: Eberhard (d. 939), Pfalzgraf im Oberlahngau

  • Possible 1. Ingeltrud, wife of Robert, Vicomte de Dijon (according to Jackman)

Basic information and justifications:

Birth: c884 - Südthüringau, Ostfrankenreich - according to FMG, her father was Graf in Südthüringen or South Thuringia (a Gau is a region) during the period in which she was estimated to have been born. (Ostfrankenreich and Francie occidentale first separated in 843 under the Partition of Trier - and then in 870 both these split Lotharingia under the Partition of Meersen, and remained separate nations ever after. Ostfrankenreich evolved into the entity that would become the Holy Roman Empire/Heiliges Römisches Reich with the coronation of Otto I in 962, while Francie occidentale/Western Francia became France with the coronation of Hugues Capet in 987.)

Marriages: Two are reasonably certain to have taken place:

  • First wedding: 27 March or 13 June 897 in Worms with Zwentibold, King of Lotharingia (at first under his father, Arnulf von Kärnten, König des Ostfrankenreichs, then independently until deposed).
  • Second wedding: After 13 August 900 (day that her first husband was killed in battle) with Gerhard, Graf im Metzgau (apparently she served as a prize for having defeated her husband - her attitude to this turn of events wasn't recorded).

A third is speculated by Jackman:

  • Third wedding: After 22 June 910 (day that her second husband was killed in battle) with Eberhard, Pfalzgraf im Oberlahngau

Death: 2 July, after 952 (FMG). No location given.

Burial: Unknown (her last possible husband died in 939 - her disposition after that event is unrecorded)

Occupation: Queen of Lotharingia (897-900), Gräfin im Metzgau (900-910), and possibly Pfalzgräfin im Oberlahngau (after 910 - 939).

Alternate names: Oda von Sachsen is the only name I've been able to find for her. Users have called her Uda and Ida, but this appears to be unsupported by any substantiated sources. Where Hathumoda came from is likewise a mystery - it is unsupported by any source.

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Saxony (covering her birth family):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#OttoErlauchtedied912

OTTO "der Erlauchte", son of Graf LIUDOLF & his wife Oda [Billung] (-30 Nov 912, bur Gandersheim Stiftskirche).

  • The Annalista Saxo records "Otto" as "filius Liudolfi ducis"[142]. "Hludowicus…rex" granted immunities to Kloster Gandersheim, naming "Brun et Otto nostri fideles comites…[et] Liutolf genitor eorum…[et]…Gerbirg soror eorundem comitum" by charter dated 26 Jan 877[143].
  • Graf im Südthüringau. "Hludowicus…rex" donated property "Tennisteti et Heriki in pago Suththuringa in comitatu Ottonis" to Kloster Gandersheim by charter dated 26 Jan 877[144]. "Rihdahc" denoted property to Kloster St Maria an der Rosel, in the castle of Coblenz, by undated charter, placed in the compilation with other charters dated [981/89], subscribed by "domini Ottonis Liutolfi filius…"[145].
  • Graf im Eichsfeld. Emperor Arnulf confirmed an exchange including property "in pago Eichesfelden in comitatu Ottonis" between the abbot of Fulda and "Chunrado comite" on the intervention of "Ottonis…marchionis" by charter dated 28 Jan 897[146].
  • Lay Abbot of Hersfeld 908.
  • He was chosen to succeed Ludwig "das Kind" [Carolingian] as king of Germany in 911, but declined on the grounds of his advanced age and recommended the election of Konrad ex-Duke of the Franconians[147].
  • "Chuonradus…rex" confirmed privileges to Kloster Murbach by charter dated 12 Mar 913 with the consent of "fidelium nostrorum Hathonis, Salomonis, Thiodolfi, Hildini, Einhardi, Erchangarii, Chuonradi, Hugonis, Ottonis, Heinrici, Bopponis, Udalrici, Eberhardi"[148].
  • Thietmar records the death of Otto on 30 Nov but does not give the year[149]. The necrology of Merseburg records the death "30 Nov" of "Oddo comes pater Heinrici regis Saxonum"[150].

m HEDWIG [Hathui], daughter of HEINRICH dux [Babenberg] & his wife Engeltrudis --- ([850/55]-24 Dec 903).

  • "Hathwiga" is named as wife of Otto in the Annalista Saxo, which in an earlier passage records that the mother of Heinrich was the son of the sister of Adalbert [Babenberg][151]. Her birth date is estimated from the birth of her third son in 876.
  • The necrology of Fulda records the death in 903 of "Hadwih com"[152]. The necrology of Merseburg records the death "24 Dec" of "Hathuui mater Heinrici regis"[153].

Mistress (1): ---. The name of Otto's mistress is not known.

Graf Otto & his wife had [seven] children:

1. [daughter ([865/70][154]-).

  • "Wundilgartam Henrici regis de filia neptim" is named in the Chronicle of St Gall, which also names her husband[155]. The commentary in the printed text interprets this as "granddaughter of Heinrich I King of Germany", but this is chronologically impossible assuming that the approximate death date of Wundelgart's husband is correct.
  • If there is any truth in the text, it is more likely that Wundelgart was the niece of King Heinrich by his sister, although this is far from certain considering the broad range of interpretation possible for the word "neptis". However, the chronology is tight even for this interpretation, as shown by the estimated birth date range of this daughter, which must mean that she was one of her parents' older children.
  • Another possibility is that she was illegitimate. The same source in a later passage names "Ekkehardo…diacono et Purchardo puero post abate consobrinis suis"[156]. As Wundelgart was the mother of abbot Burkhard, this gives the essential clue about the name of this daughter's husband, who in the same source is named as the father of the sisters who were mothers of the younger Ekkehard and abbot Burkhard.
  • m as his first wife, EKKEHARD [I], son of ---.]

2. THANKMAR (-before 30 Nov 912).

  • "Thancmarus et Liudolfus", sons of Otto & Hathwiga, died before their father according to the Annalista Saxo, which implies they were older than their brother Heinrich who "ecce fratribus defunctis, tota hereditas in ipsum iam ducem derivatur"[157].

3. LIUDOLF (-before 30 Nov 912).

  • "Thancmarus et Liudolfus", sons of Otto & Hathwiga, died before their father according to the Annalista Saxo, which implies they were older than their brother Heinrich who "ecce fratribus defunctis, tota hereditas in ipsum iam ducem derivatur"[158].
  • m ---. The name of Liudolf's wife is not known. Liudolf & his wife had one child: Ekkehard (von Meissen, d. 936)

4. HEINRICH ([876]-Memleben 2 Jul 936, bur Quedlinburg Stiftskirche).

  • Thietmar records that Heinrich was "born of the noble lineage of Otto and Hadwig"[161]. According to the Annalista Saxo, he was son of the unnamed sister of Adalbert [Babenberg], with whom he and his brothers fought against the Konradiner family, his complete parentage being recorded in a later passage[162].
  • He was elected as HEINRICH I King of Germany at Fritzlar 6 May 919.

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5. ODA ([884][163]-[2 Jul] after 952).

Regino records the marriage in 897 of "Ottonem comitem…filiam Odam" and King Zwentibold[164]. Regino records that "Gerhard comes" married "Odam uxorem Zuendiboldi regis" after killing her first husband in battle in 900[165].

"Otto…rex" confirmed the donation of property " in loco Dauindre…in pago…Hamalant in comitatu Vuigmanni" to St Moritz at Magdeburg by "nostra amita…Uota" by charter dated 30 Dec 952[166].

Jackman speculates[167] that Graf Eberhard married Oda as her third husband, Oda von Sachsen, for onomastic reasons as the name of Eberhard's supposed daughter (her affiliation also being based only on his own separate onomastic hypothesis) was that of Oda's maternal grandmother. This is an interesting theory but it accumulates one onomastic hypothesis on another and must be considered highly speculative.

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m firstly ([Worms] [27 Mar/13 Jun] 897) ZWENTIBOLD King of Lotharingia [Carolingian], illegitimate son of Emperor ARNULF King of Germany & his mistress --- ([870/71]-killed in battle 13 Aug 900, bur [Süsteren or Echternach]).

m secondly (900) Graf GERHARD [Matfride], son of --- (-killed in battle 22 Jun 910).

[m thirdly (after Jun 910) EBERHARD Graf im Oberlahngau Pfalzgraf, son of KONRAD Graf in der Wetterau und im Wormsgau [Konradiner] & his wife Glismod --- (-killed in battle near Andernach 23 Oct 939).]

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6. LIUTGARD [Dodica] (-21 Jan 923).

  • Europäische Stammtafeln[168] names Liutgard as daughter of Otto & his wife, but the primary source which confirms this has not so far been identified.
  • Abbess of Gandersheim 919/923.

7. [IRMINBURG (-before 936).

  • Europäische Stammtafeln[169] names Irminburg as daughter of Otto & his wife, and records her marriage, but the primary source which confirms this has not so far been identified.
  • m as his first wife, SIEGFRIED, son of THIETMAR [Ostmark] & his wife --- (-[3 Dec 936/941]).]

Graf Otto had one illegitimate daughter by Mistress (1):

8. daughter. 932.

  • Widukind names "sorore regis quæ nupserat Widoni Thuringo…ex concubina nata"[170].
  • m WIDO, from Thuringia.

References:

  • [142] Annalista Saxo 907.
  • [143] D LJ 3, p. 335.
  • [144] D LJ 4, p. 337.
  • [145] Beyer, H. (ed.) (1860) Urkundenbuch zur Geschichte der, jetzt die Preussischen Regierungsbezirke Coblenz und Trier bildenden Mittelrheinischen Territorien (Coblenz), Vol. I, (“Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch, I”), 257, p. 314, consulted at <http:/www.rlb.de/mrHist/> (12 Dec 2007).
  • [146] D Arn 149, p. 226, marked "verunechtet" in the compilation.
  • [147] Widukind 1.16, pp. 26-27, quoted in Thietmar, p. 71, footnote 20. Reuter (1991), p. 135, suggests that this "should be taken as panegyric rather than history".
  • [148] D K I 13, p. 13.
  • [149] Thietmar 1.7, p. 71.
  • [150] Althoff, G. (ed.) (1983) Die Totenbücher von Merseburg, Magdeburg und Lüneburg (Hannover), Merseburg.
  • [151] Annalista Saxo 902 and 907.
  • [152] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
  • [153] Althoff, G. (ed.) (1983) Die Totenbücher von Merseburg, Magdeburg und Lüneburg (Hannover), Merseburg.
  • [154] Estimated birth date range based on the likely birth date range of her daughter.
  • [155] Ekkehardi IV Casus S. Galli, MGH SS II, p. 119.
  • [156] Casuum Sancti Galli, Continuatio I, Ekkehardo IV 10, MGH SS II, p. 124.
  • [157] Annalista Saxo 907.
  • [158] Annalista Saxo 907.
  • [162] Annalista Saxo 902 and 907.
  • [163] Speculative birth date suggested by Jackman (1997), p. 88, apparently to fit with his theory about Oda's supposed third marriage.
  • [164] Reginonis Chronicon 897, MGH SS I, p. 607.
  • [165] Reginonis Chronicon 900, MGH SS I, p. 609.
  • [166] D O I 159, p. 240
  • [167] Jackman, D. C. (1997) Criticism and Critique, sidelights on the Konradiner (Oxford Unit for Prosopographical Research), p. 88.
  • [168] ES I.1 10.
  • [169] ES I.1 10.
  • [170] Widukind I.38, MGH SS III, p. 434.

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Germany (covering her first marriage):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GERMANY,%20Kings.htm#Zwentibolddied900

ZWENTIBOLD ([870/71]-killed in battle 13 Aug 900, bur Abbey of Echternach).

  • "Filiumque suum rex Arnulfus…nomine Tuendebolebum" in named in the Annales Vedastini [105]. Regino records that, when Arnulf King of the East Franks granted "ducatum Behemensium" to "Zuendiboldo Marabensium Sclavorum regi", his son was baptised with "nomine suo Zuendibold"[106].
  • Regino records that "Arnolfi Zvendiboldo filio" was given the honours of "Megingaudi comitis" in 892[107].
  • He was installed as ZWENTIBOLD King of Lotharingia in May 895 by his father, crowned [14/30] May. "Zendeboldus…rex" signed 28 charters between 895 and 900[108].
  • His position in Lotharingia was seriously weakened after 898 when he quarrelled with Graf Reginar who was one of his main supporters[109].
  • He was deposed on the death of his father in 899 and replaced by his legitimate half-brother.
  • He was killed trying to recapture his kingdom[110]. Regino specifies that "Zuantibold" was killed in battle "900 Id Aug" by "comitibus Stephano, Gerardo et Matfriedo circa Mosam"[111]. The necrology of Prüm records the death "901 Id Aug" of "Zuindibolt in prælio interficitur"[112].

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m ([Worms] [27 Mar/13 Jun] 897) as her first husband, ODA, daughter of OTTO “des Erlauchten” [Duke of Saxony] & his wife Hedwig ([884]-[2 Jul] after 952).

Regino records the marriage in 897 of "Ottonem comitem…filiam Odam" and King Zwentibold[113]. Jackman speculates that Oda must have been born in [884], although this appears to be to fit with his theory about Oda's supposed third marriage[114].

"Zuendeboldus…rex" granted immunities to Kloster St Maximin at Trier by charter dated 13 Jun 897 which names "coniugis nostræ Uodæ"[115].

Regino records that "Gerhard comes" married "Odam uxorem Zuendiboldi regis" after killing her first husband in battle in 900[116]. She married secondly (900) Graf Gerhard [Matfriede] (-killed in battle 22 Jun 910), her first husband’s enemy, and [maybe thirdly Eberhard Graf im Oberlahngau, Pfalzgraf].

Jackman speculates on this possible third marriage for onomastic reasons, the name of Eberhard's supposed daughter Ingeltrud being that of Oda's maternal grandmother[117].

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[King Zwentibold & [his wife] had three (possible) children:]

a) [BENEDICTA .

  • The Gesta Episcoporum Leodensium names "filie…Ceindeboldi Regis Benedicta et Cecilia" and records their burial at Süsteren[118].
  • Abbess at Süsteren.
  • This is the only reference to any children of King Zwentibold. Their existence is improbable, especially given the speculative birth date (shown above) of Oda wife of Zwentibold, although it is possible that they were illegitimate. Their names are not, however, typical of the late 9th century in Germany and their absence from any contemporaneous primary sources is surprising if they did exist, considering the number of references to King Zwentibold himself.]

b) [CÄCILIE .

  • The Gesta Episcoporum Leodensium names "filie…Ceindeboldi Regis Benedicta et Cecilia" and records their burial at Süsteren[119].
  • Abbess at Süsteren.]

c) [RELENDIS .

  • The Gesta Episcoporum Leodensium names "sancto virgo Relendis filia…dicit regis [=Xeindeboldi regis]"[120]. The same comments about to this daughter as the alleged daughters Benedicta and Cäcilie.]

References:

  • [105] Annales Vedastini 895, MGH SS II, p. 207.
  • [106] Reginonis Chronicon 890, MGH SS I, p. 601.
  • [107] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605.
  • [108] MGH Diplomata IV, pp. 1-68.
  • [109] Reuter (1991), p. 125.
  • [110] Settipani (1993), pp. 293-4.
  • [111] Reginonis Chronicon 900, MGH SS I, p. 609.
  • [112] Annales Necrologici Prumienses, MGH SS XIII, p. 219.
  • [113] Reginonis Chronicon 897, MGH SS I, p. 607.
  • [114] Jackman, D. C. (1997) Criticism and Critique, sidelights on the Konradiner (Oxford Unit for Prosopographical Research), p. 88.
  • [115] D Zw 14, p. 42.
  • [116] Reginonis Chronicon 900, MGH SS I, p. 609.
  • [117] Jackman (1997), p. 88.
  • [118] Ægidii Aureævallensis Gesta episcoporum Leodiensium 38, MGH, SS, XXV, 50, supposed addition marked *.
  • [119] Ægidii Aureævallensis Gesta episcoporum Leodiensium 38, MGH, SS, XXV, 50, supposed addition marked *.
  • [120] Ægidii Aureævallensis Gesta episcoporum Leodiensium 38, MGH, SS, XXV, 51, supposed addition marked *.

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Upper Lotharingia, Nobility (covering her second marriage):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#Gerharddied910

GERHARD ([870/75][445]-killed in battle 22 Jun 910).

  • The De Rebus Treverensibus sæculi VIII-X Libellus names two brothers "Gerardus et Meffridus" specifying that Gerhard married Oda, widow of King Zwentibold[446].
  • Regino records that in 897 "Stephanus, Odacar, Gerardus et Matfridus comites" had their honours confiscated, and the reconciliation of "Stephanus, Gerhardus et Matfridus" with King Zwentibold soon after[447]. Regino records that "Chuonradus comes" sent "filium suum Chuonradum" against "Gerardum et fratrem eius Matfridum" in 906[448].
  • The Annales Laubecenses record that "Gebehardum ducem et Liutfredum" were killed in battle against the Bavarians in 910[449].

m (after 13 Aug 900) as her second husband, ODA, widow of ZWENTIBOLD King of Lotharingia [Carolingian], daughter of OTTO "des Erlauchten" Duke of Saxony & his wife Hedwig ([884][450]-[2 Jul] after 952).

Regino records that "Gerhard comes" married "Odam uxorem Zuendiboldi regis" after killing her first husband in battle in 900[451]. "Otto…rex" confirmed the donation of property "in pago…Hamalant in comitatu Vuigmanni" to St Moritz at Magdeburg by "nostra amita…Uota" by charter dated 30 Dec 952[452].

Jackman speculates[453] that she married thirdly Eberhard Graf im Oberlahngau, Pfalzgraf].

Gerhard & his wife had four children:

a) WICFRID (-9 Jul 953).

  • The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Property "in pago Juliacense in comitatu Godefridi comitis" is referred to in a charter dated 2 Aug 945, signed by "Wichfridi archiepiscopi…fratris eius Godefridi comitis"[454].
  • Abbot of St Ursula at Köln.
  • Deacon 922.
  • Archbishop of Köln 924-953.
  • Arch chancellor 950.

b) UDA (-after 18 May 963).

  • The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. A charter dated 943 refers to "Gozlines…miles…ex nobilissimis regni Chlotarii ducens prosapia" (the wording implying that he was then deceased) and the donation by "uxor eius Uda et filius eius…Regingerus" to St Maximin at Trier of property "Hunzelinesdorph", subscribed by "Ogonis abbatis, Friderici, Gisilberti, Sigeberti fratrum predicti Gozlini"[455]. "Otto…rex" confirmed a donation of property "Dauantri in pago…Hamalant in comitatu Wichmanni comitis…" inherited by "Uda nostra nepta" by charter dated 28 Aug 960[456]. "Uda…comitissa" donated property "in pago Rizzigowi cui Egylolfus comes" to St Maximin at Trier "pro remedio…seniorique mei Gozlini necnon filiorum meorum Henrici…et Reginheri, Godefridi quoque et Adalberonis" by charter dated 18 May 963 witnessed by "Sigefrido comite, Richwino comite"[457].
  • m GOZLIN [Gozelon] Comte, son of WIGERICH [III] Graf im Bidgau & his wife Cunegundis --- ([before 915]-[12 Oct 942/16 Feb 943]).

c) daughter.

  • The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.
  • m ---, a Bavarian.

d) GOTTFRIED ([905/10]-26 Mar after 949).

  • The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. his birth date range is estimated from the likely marriage date of his parents and the date his father died. Property "in pago Juliacense in comitatu Godefridi comitis" is referred to in a charter dated 2 Aug 945, signed by "Wichfridi archiepiscopi…fratris eius Godefridi comitis"[458]. "Otto…rex" confirmed the possession of Süsteren abbey for Kloster Prüm by charter dated 1 Jun 949, which names "Wicfridus episcopus…Godefridus comes…"[459].
  • Graf im Jülichgau.
  • The Liber Memorialis of Remiremont records the death "4 Kal Apr" of "Godefridus comes"[460].
  • m (before [934]) ERMENTRUDE, daughter of ---.
  • The Liber Memorialis of Remiremont: lists (1) "Dumnus Gislibertus dux…Dumna Girberga, Ainricus, Haduidis…", which is followed by (2) "Gottefridus comes cum infantibus…suis, Ermentridis comitissa"[461], and (3) "Gotefridus, Ermendrudis, Gotefridus, Gebardus, Gerardus, Adelardus, Girberga" assumed to be Gottfried, his wife, four sons and daughter[462]. , and (4) "…Caroli imperatoris…Hludowici imperatoris, Hlotarii, Caroli, Ermentrudis"[463], which may represent an abbreviated attempt to set out the ancestry of Ermentrude wife of Graf Gottfried.
  • Hlawitschka suggests[464] that Ermentrude was Ermentrude of the Franks, daughter of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks & his first wife Frederuna. He appears to base this on another name list in the Liber Memorialis naming the Carolingian kings and emperors (in order) "…Caroli imperatoris…Hludowici imperatoris, Hlotarii, Caroli, Ermentrudis"[465], suggesting that this represents an abbreviated attempt to set out the ancestry of Ermentrude wife of Graf Gottfried. However, the connection between entries (1) to (3) and entry (4) appears to be speculation.

Gottfried & his wife had five children: Gottfried (d. 964 of fever in Italy), Gerberga (d. after 934, wife of Megingoz), Gebhard, Gerhard (930/935 - after 963, Graf von Metz), and Adelhard.

References:

  • [445] Birth date range estimated on the basis of his known career.
  • [446] De Rebus Treverensibus sæculi VIII-X Libellus 14, MGH SS XIV, p. 104.
  • [447] Reginonis Chronicon 897, MGH SS I, p. 607.
  • [448] Reginonis Chronicon 906, MGH SS I, p. 611.
  • [449] Annales Laubecenses 910, MGH SS I, p. 55.
  • [450] Speculative birth date suggested by Jackman, D. C. (1997) Criticism and Critique, sidelights on the Konradiner (Oxford Unit for Prosopographical Research), p. 88, apparently to fit with his theory about Oda's supposed third marriage.
  • [451] Reginonis Chronicon 900, MGH SS I, p. 609.
  • [452] MGH Diplomata, D O I 216, p. 299.
  • [453] Jackman, p. 88, speculates on this possible third marriage for onomastic reasons, the name of Eberhard's supposed daughter Ingeltrud being that of Oda's maternal grandmother.
  • [454] Lacomblet, T. J. (ed.) (1858) Urkundenbuch für die Geschichte des Niederrheins IV 604, p. 761, and Oediger, F. W. Registen I, 335, quoted in Hlawitschka 1969, p. 56.
  • [455] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch 179, p. 241.
  • [456] MGH Diplomata, D O I 216, p. 298.
  • [457] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch 212, p. 272.
  • [458] Lacomblet, T. J. (ed.) (1858) Urkundenbuch für die Geschichte des Niederrheins IV 604, p. 761, and Oediger, F. W. Registen I, 335, quoted in Hlawitschka 1969, p. 56.
  • [459] MGH Diplomata, D O I 111, p. 194.
  • [460] Liber Memorialis de Remiremont, quoted in Hlawitschka 1969, p. 72.
  • [461] Liber Memorialis de Remiremont, p. 9, Hlawitschka 1969, p. 57, suggesting the estimated date.
  • [462] Liber Memorialis de Remiremont, p. 9, Hlawitschka 1969, p. 57, suggesting the estimated date.
  • [463] Liber Memorialis de Remiremont, p. 2.
  • [464] Die Anfänge des Hauses Habsburg-Lothringen. Genealogische Untersuchungen zur Geschichte Lothringens und des Reiches im 9., 10. und 11. Jahrhundert., 1969, pp. 68-9.
  • [465] Liber Memorialis de Remiremont, p. 2.
 

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Franconia Nobility (covering her possible third marriage):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA.htm#Eberharddied939

EBERHARD (-killed in battle near Andernach 23 Oct 939).

  • The Chronicon Laureshamense records a declaration of "Chuonradus rex" dated "914 VII Id Iun apud Franchonfort" relating to the freedom of election of abbots in which he names "Eberhardi marchionis fratris nostri"[190]. Widukind names "Evurhardus frater regis"[191]. Thietmar also names Eberhard as brother of King Konrad, when recording that the latter recommended that he support the election of the future King Heinrich I on his deathbed[192].
  • Lay Abbot of St Maximin at Trier 909. "Hludowicus…rex" granted property to "presbitero Gozbold" at the request of "Chuonradi et Eberhardi comitum" by charter dated 16 Jun 911[193]. "Chuonradus…rex" donated property "in Turgeuue cirtem…Vuihare et in Alpegeuue locum…Sueininga…et in pago Para curtem…Oberendorf" to Kloster St Gallen on the intervention of "Eburhardique germani fratris nostri" by charter dated 14 Mar 912[194]. "Chuonradus…rex" confirmed privileges to Kloster Murbach by charter dated 12 Mar 913 with the consent of "fidelium nostrorum…Erchangarii, Chuonradi, Hugonis, Ottonis, Heinrici, Bopponis, Udalrici, Eberhardi"[195].
  • Graf im Hessen und Perfgau 913.
  • Graf im Oberlahngau 913 and 928.
  • Markgraf 914: "Chuonradus…rex" granted property "villa Bercheim in comitatu Eberhardi in pago Tuonahgouue" to "capellano Reginolf" by charter dated 4 May 916[196]. "Chuonradus…rex" granted rights to Kloster Lorsch by charter dated 7 Jun 914 which names "coniugis nostre Chunigunde regine"[197].
  • Duke of Franconia. "Chuonradus…rex" granted property to Udalfrid Bishop of Eichstätt by charter dated 9 Sep 918 at the request of "Eberhardo et Heinricho comitibus"[198].
  • He submitted to Heinrich I King of Germany, elected in 919 to succeed his deceased brother[199]. "Heinricus…rex" granted property to "in pago Hegouue in eodem comitatu…in loco Siginga" to "Baboni…comitis Burchardi vassallo" after consultation with "Burchardi, Ebarhardi, Chuonradi, Heinrici atque Utonis…comitum" by charter dated 30 Nov 920[200]. A document dated 7 Nov 921 recording a meeting between Charles III "le Simple" King of France and Heinrich I King of Germany names "Evrardus, Chonradus, Herimannus, Hato, Godefredus, Otto, Herimannus, Cobbo, Magenhardus, Fridericus, Foldac" as representatives of the latter[201].
  • Truchsess 936.
  • Pfalzgraf 938. He rebelled against Otto I "der Große" King of Germany in 938, seized Hellmern, and captured Heinrich, the king's brother, for which he was imprisoned at Hildesheim[202].
  • He was killed by his cousins, the brothers Hermann I Duke of Swabia and Udo[203]. Regino records that "Eberhardus" was sent into exile in 939 and killed[204]. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 939 of "Eburhart dux"[205].

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Jackman speculates[206] that Eberhard married (after Jun 910), as her third husband, Oda von Sachsen, widow firstly of Zwentibold King of Lotharingia [Carolingian] and secondly of Graf Gerhard [Matfriede], daughter of Otto “des Erlauchten” Duke [of Saxony] & his wife Hedwig (-2 Jul after 952), for onomastic reasons as the name of Eberhard's supposed daughter (her affiliation also being based only on his own separate onomastic hypothesis) was that of Oda's maternal grandmother.

This is an interesting theory but it accumulates one onomastic hypothesis on another and must be considered highly speculative.]

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Eberhard [& his wife had one possible daughter]:

i) [INGELTRUD.

  • Jackman[207] suggests, for onomastic reasons only, that the wife of Vicomte Robert may have been the daughter of Graf Eberhard. However, this appears unlikely from a geographical perspective. In addition, no strikingly typical Konradiner names feature among this couple's descendants.
  • Settipani suggests that Ingeltrud may have been the daughter of Eberhard's younger brother Otto[208].
  • m ROBERT Vicomte de Dijon, son of ---.]

References:

  • [190] Chronicon Laureshamense, MGH SS XXI, p. 386.
  • [191] Widukindi Res Gestæ Saxonicæ I.24, MGH SS III, p. 428.
  • [192] Thietmar 1.8, pp. 72-3.
  • [193] D LK 77, p. 214.
  • [194] D K I 5, p. 5.
  • [195] D K I 17, p. 16.
  • [196] D K I 23, p. 22.
  • [197] D K I 28, p. 26.
  • [198] D K I 36, p. 33.
  • [199] Reuter, T. (1991) Germany in the early middle ages c.800-1056 (Longman), p. 139.
  • [200] D H I 2, p. 40.
  • [201] Karoli III et Heinrici I pactum ad Bonnam castrum, MGH LL 1, p. 567.
  • [202] Hill, B. H. (1972) Medieval Monarchy in Action: The German Empire from Henry I to Henry IV (London, George Allen and Unwin), p. 29.
  • [203] Jackman, D. C. (1997) Criticism and Critique, sidelights on the Konradiner (Oxford Unit for Prosopographical Research), p. 55, and Thietmar 2.34, p. 117.
  • [204] Reginonis Chronicon, Continuator Reginonis Trevirensis 939, MGH SS I, p. 618.
  • [205] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
  • [206] Jackman (1997), p. 88.
  • [207] Jackman (1997), p. 87.
  • [208] Settipani, C. 'Les origines maternelles du comte de Bourgogne Otte-Guillaume. Nouvelle synthèse', Annales de Bourgogne, 66 (1994) 5-62, cited in Jackman (1997), p. 87.

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Ida von Grabfeld

  • female
  • Spouse of family
  • Gebhard, Duke of Lorraine and Ida von Grabfeld (1)
  • Birth c. 0850
  • Death c. 0910

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Father Otto De Saxony, b. Abt 851, Saxony, Germany Mother Hedwige, b. Abt 856 Group Sheet F1041 Default Tree

 

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853
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convent founded by father Liudoif von Sachsen
875
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Südthüringau (within present Thuringia), Ostfrankenreich (Present Germany)
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