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Reuben Brock, (probably fictitious)

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Holliger, Cheshire, England (Present UK)
Death: 1721 (40-41)
Pittsylvania, Virginia, United States
Immediate Family:

Husband of Christian “She Who Carries the Sun” Brock, (Probably Fictitious)

Occupation: soldier
Managed by: Erica Howton
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About Reuben Brock, (probably fictitious)

Rumored to be the progenitor of our Brock family and the father of Aaron Brock, Sr. (aka Aaron "Totsuwha-Chief Red Bird" Brock ), but no evidence of him has been found, was a Reuben Brock, b. abt 1680, said to be a British soldier. Reuben was not mentioned in the old family histories from various branches of descendants. He left no record, received no Patent. He is on no extant militia list, although militia duty was required of all able-bodied males [though not all county lists have survived]. It is possible he went quickly to live with the Indians, married a Cherokee, and left no record. The parents of Reuben are unknown, if indeed he existed.

family

Not a known child of William Brock

Reuben Brock had five other children with Christian

  • Reuben b. 1720
  • George b. 1725 Virginia
  • David
  • Lloyd
  • Christina

One by his second wife.

Issac b.1744 North Carolina


  • Christian (She Who Carries the Sun) Place 1700 – 1721
  • a. Allegedly they were killed inbattle protecting their furs, and the bodies thrown into the river here.

Married

Reuben Brock 1720 –

Their children

  • Aaron Adron "Totsuwha-Chief Red Bird" Brock 1721 – 1820
  • George Brock 1725 – 1800
  • Joseph Brock 1728 – 1809Name: Aaron "Totsuwha-Chief Red Bird" BROCK Sex: M Birth: 21 AUG 1721 in Cherokee Nation, North Carolina Death: 1820 in Clay County, Kentucky Note:
  • Died in Red Bird River, above the mouth of Hector's Creek in Clay Count y, Kentucky.
  • Burried: Redbird Creek, Clay Co., KY
  • A Cherokee "Chief"
  • ALIA: Cutsawah Brock - Cherokee name for Red Bird

Note: Notes: 1) Married Susannah Carolina Davis, Bef. 1748 in N.C. She w as born 1725 in Cherokee Nation Carolina, and died in Clay Co., Ky. He married 2)Rhoda Sizemore Bef 1801, daughter of George All Sizemore (half or more Cherokee) and Agnes Shephard Cornett. She was born 1783 in Tn., and di ed in Perry Co., Ky.

Father: Reuben BROCK b: Abt. 1680 in England Mother: Cristian PLACE b: in Carolina

Marriage 1 1)Susannah DAVIS b: Abt. 1725 in Cherokee Nation Carolina Children Reuben (relationship unproven) (R.W.S.) BROCK b: Abt. 1754 in Orange Co ., NC or Culpepper Co., Va. Aaron BROCK b: Abt. 1748 in Va. Mahala Susannah BROCK b: Abt. 1749 in Cumberland Co., Va. Jesse James (R.W.S.) BROCK b: 08 Dec 1751 in Cumberland Co., Va George BROCK b: Bet. 1753 & 1762 in Shenandoah Co., Va. Mary "Polly" BROCK b: 28 Oct 1757 in Grayson Co., Va. James BROCK b: Bet. 1759-1760 in Va. or N.C.

Marriage 2 2) Rhoda SIZEMORE b: 1783 in Tn. Children John SIZEMORE b: 1801 in Tn. Russell "Ruck" SIZEMORE b: 1803 in Tn. Harmon SIZEMORE b: 1813

Another family page said: Aaron Brock is better known as Chief Red Bird, Chief of the Cherokee Indian Tribe. His Cherokee name was Cutsawah. After becoming Chief of the tri be Chief Red Bird brought his tribe first to North Carolina and then to Clay County, Kentucky, as the white man was beginning to drive them farth er to the west. The place where Chief Red Bird settled in Clay County was named as Red Bird Creek, and later named as Red Bird. He was a great hunter and was drawn to the area by the game in this remote region of Kentucky. He built his residence on the banks of Red Bird Creek at the mouth of Jack's Creek, which was named from an Indian friend of Chief Red Bi rd whose name was Jack. Chief Red Bird explained to his tribe that the whi te man was their friend, and they should be allowed to maintain peace with the white man. However the Chickamauga tribe also lived in the area and were a much more war-like tribe, and was constantly in battle with t he white settlers who were intruding into their lands. The white settlers did not make any distinction between the Cherokee Tribe and the Chickamuaga Tribe, and in a fierce battle at Yahoo Falls killed in excess of 100 Chickamauga men, women and children, and also killed many of the peaceful Cherokee tribes people. The mass grave where the victims were buried was uncovered during a logging operation in the 1930's. Chief Red Bird was friendly with the early settlers coming into the area, and after the battle signed a peace treaty with Dillion Asher at Harlan County, Kentucky, which permitted them to hunt in the area and ended the war. The treaty was called the Treaty of Holston, and was signed in 1791. There are Cherokee symbols carved into the back wall of a sandstone rock near Chief Red Bird's cabin that depicts the signing of the treaty. After the massacre at Yahoo Falls Chief Red Bird and his friend Jack, were brutally murdered by a band of white men who had also lost their families at the battle of Yahoo Falls. They threw their bodies in a place called Willie's hole and stole all their belongings. Not long after this, John Gilbert, a longtime friend of Chief Red Bird, retrieved the bodies of Chief Red Bird and Jack and buried them in a nearby rock shelter. There is a historical marker located at the site of his home in Red Bird which reads:

"Chief Red Bird was a legendary Cherokee Indian Chief for whom this fork of the Kentucky River is named. He and another Indian, Jack whose name is given to the creek to the south, were friendly with early settlers and permitted them to hunt in the area. Allegedly they were killed in battle, protecting their furs and their bodies thrown into the river here. The ledges bear markings attributed to Chief Red Bird."

The site of the marker is placed in front of Chief Red Bird's home, just south of Spurlock and north of Jack's Creek, in Clay County, and directly across the Red Bird River from his burial site. The Governor of the State of Kentucky dedicated the marker in 1966. The site is on the National Register of Historic Places. After Red Bird's death the tribe disbanded as an official tribe although they still resided in the area.

Father: Great EAGLE b: 1710 Mother: Christain PLACE b: 1700 in cherokee nation, NC

Name: Aaron Brock Sex: M Name: Tsalagi' Ugvwiyuhi Totsu'hwa Red Bird Brock Birth: 21 AUG 1721 in Cherokee Nation, North Carolina/Cherokee Co., NC Death: ABT 1820 in Clay Co., KY Note: REFN: 14950ID: I133989 Name: Aaron 'Chief Red Bird' Brock Sex: M Birth: 21 AUG 1721in Cherokee Nation, North Carolina Death: ABT. 1820 in Clay County, Kentucky Reference Number: 67710 Note: Aaron "Red Bird" BROCK was born on 8 Dec 1720 in VA; died in ABT 1820 in Clay Co., KY. He married Susan (CHEROKEE). Susan(CHEROKEE) was born in NC; died in Clay Co., KY. Aaron's father was a trader of European descent named Reuben Brock. His mother was of Cherokee ancestry, at least in part. Dr. John J. Dickey Diary, Fleming County, Ky. Recorded in the1870's and beyond. Reprinted in Kentucky Explorer, Volume 11, No March, 1997, p. 10 7. By permission. Clay County. RED BIRD The Indian chief for whom Red Bird Creek in Clay County was named was probably a Cherokee from Tennessee or North Carolina. Like others of his race, he was a great hunter and allured by the game in this remote region he finally took up his residence on the creek that bears his name at the mouth of Jack's Creek in this county. He came to his death by the avarice of the "pale face." There lived with him a crippled Indian named Willie. This man dressed the skins which Red Bird brought to their wigwam and looked after the culinary department of their house. Some hunters from North Carolina, greedy and unscrupulous, came to the wigwam and murdered Willie. They then secreted themselves and awaited the return of the brave chief who had long before buried his tomahawk and for years had been living in peace with the white man, and as he approached his crude castle the bullet of an assassin laid him in the dust. They threw his body into a hole of water nearaby which is still called "Willie's Hole," and from which John Gilbert and others took him and buried him. One tradition is that he was sitting on the bank of a creek fishing when he was shot and that he fell into the creek. 2. The Harlan Co, KY Court House has a plaque placed on the square in front of it by the Mountain Trail Chapter of the DAR which says "To the memory, of the Soldiers and Patriots of the American Revolution." The following men are listedon the plaque: Carl Bailey Jr., James Hall, JESSE BROCK, Samuel Howard, Barry Cawood, Stephen Jones,Lewis Green, Ephriam Osbourne Jr, Henry Shackleford and Henry Smith moved to Harlan County before 1800 Rev Soldier Pension 30887 NC Old KY LAND GRANTS VOLI by Jillson (land surveyed) (county) (watercourse) Aaron Brock 50 acres Book 19 page 507 April 4, 1823 Harlan Co. Walli ns Creek Jessie Brock 50 acres Book 19page 510 April 2, 1823 Harlan Co. Wa llins Creek Amon Brock 100 acres Book 19 page 432 April 16, 1822 Harlan C o. Cumberland R.page 101/102 Jesse BROCK Sr toAaron BROCK 25 Oct 1824 f or $100 60 acres Wallens Creek, a part of Jesse BROCK's original survey Wi tnesses: Elijah GREEN, Larkin HOWARD, Terry MELTON page 39Deed Book A of H arlan Co. Jesse BROCK Sr toAmon BROCK 5 Feb 1822 for $100 30 acres on the north side of the Cumberland opposite the mouth of Wallins Crk. Aaron "Red Bird" Brock was associated withthe descendants of Tai Tsuska (Double Head) and related persons who were massacred at Ywahoo Falls (Doublehead was dead in a tavern brawl before this and Aaron Redbird Brock was a leader of this group). I am not quite sure what to make of "Cherokees" circa 1790-1820 who fought on the American side in the Revolution, own deeds to land, are mixed race, of the Christian religion and adopt European clothing (modified I would guess) and housing styles. Nor am I sure what a "band" of Cherokees would be doing in Kentucky in 1800/1810, since this land had been traded away by treaty. Calling Red Bird a Cherokee chief even if he signs a peace treaty in 1807 may be a stretch??? My understanding is that most of the survivors of this group melted into the general population and did not go to Oklahoma. An examination of his descendants shows how by intermarriage this was accomplished in the nexID: I19983 Name: Tsalagi' Ugvwiyuhi Totsu'hwa Red Bird Note: some erroneously spell Cutsawah (not a Cherokee word, does not mean RedBird, but is a Delaware hybrid for Cherokee) Name: Aaron Brock Name: Chief Red Bird Totsu'wha Sex: M Change Date: 10 MAY 2004 Birth: ABT 1732? in VA or TN or SC Note: Cherokee, probably the "unknown son" of Great Eagle and his wife Woman Ani'Wadi, since heriditary chiefs signed treaties, and they had a son whose name was not recorded.His name Aaronis a Strong family history, written ca 1960 by Mrs.J. C. Hurst: "The Strong family of Breathitt and Owsley Cos., KY was established by William, who was born about the year 1768 in VA and died about the year 1848. He was married about the year 1790 to Jennie Callahan (commonly called Jane), who was born about the year 1779 and died about the year 1815. She was a daughter of Edward and Mahalah Brock Callahan. Mahalah was a daughter of AARON BROCK and a sister of JESSE BROCK, who lived in Harlan County. The Brocks were part Indian."A later article states, "Aaron Brock born ca 1721, lived inCumberland Co., VA, 1751,son Jesse settled 1799 in Knox Co., KY (later Harlan Co.). Edward Callahan born 1743 removed 1800 with wife Mahala Brock from Russell Co., VA, to Clay Co.,KY . . ."Some give Aaron's birthdate as 8 Dec 1721, the month and day of Jesse Brock's birth in 1751, which sounds like a mixup. Deputy Chief Arlie Strong,a descendant of Aaron Brock's daughter Mahala who md. Edward "Ned" Callahan, is related to Chief Red Bird through Jim Bowling of the "Bear Creek" Bowlings in Clay Co., KY, and wife Martha "Patsy" Benge, daughter of John Benge. The Bowlings then married into the Wilson family (a Cherokee family through Henson),who married Elizabeth Strong, daughter of John Strong.John Benge was the son of King David Benge, nephew of Wurteh andfirst cousin of Sequoyah and Robert "the Bench" Benge, and probably ofRed Bird.Two known primary references with anti-Indian statements made bydescendants of Aaron Brock refer to Robert Benge.

Red Bird was a treaty signer. One can easily follow the genealogy of treaty signers, descending from Amatoy Moytoy, to Moytoy, to Willenawah (Great Eagle), to Sister of Doublehead (Red Paint Clan), to Red Bird; and Wurteh Watts to Sequoyah. Treaty writers went out of their way to track down the most influential Cherokee leaders and kin of those who had signed previous treaties.In addition to Benge, most of the Clay County Cherokee familieswere ultimately related to the likes of Chief Tassel and Doublehead,Colonel Martin, Hanging Maw, Corn Tassel, Fool Warrior, Long Fellow, and Abram brother of Hanging Maw.A record from the Clay County Historical Society states, "Some of the Cornetts claim Indian ancestors from Edward Callahan who married Mahala the daughter of Aaron or Adrian Brock, who was a Cherokee, born1711 died 1811," but the accuracyof this birthdate is doubtful asCherokee did not record birthdates.

1 2 Immigration: BEF 1799 Red Bird, KY Note:

The first Aaron married an Indian namedSusan, who was from the CherokeeNa tion in the Carolinas, and when son Jesse (Revolutionary soldier) wasgrant ed land, Aaron and Susan moved with him from South Carolina toKentucky; Aa ron and Susan lived in a sycamore tree in what is now knownas Red Bird, Ke ntucky Residence: BEF 1799 KY Note: according toa historical marker which reads, "Chief Red Bird - Was alegen dary Cherokee Indian for whom this fork of the Kentucky River isname d. He and another Indian, Jack, whose name was given the creek to thesout h, were friendly with early settlers and permitted them to hunt inthe are a. Allegedly they were killed inbattle protecting their furs, andthe bodi es thrown into the river here. The ledges bear markingsattributed to Red B



Reuben Brock was born on 1825 in North Carolina, United States to Reuben Brock and Ann Elrod Brock. Reuben married Piety McFee and had 8 children: Franklin Brock, Robert Brock, Thomas Brock, James Brock, Mary Brock, Martha Brock, Pinkney Brock, and Denver R. Brock. He passed away on 1910 in South Carolina, United States.

Reuben Brock is my 4th great uncle.


Not the same as https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/115181466/person/1...

Not the same as Willenawah, "The Great Eagle of Tanasi"

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Reuben Brock, (probably fictitious)'s Timeline

1680
1680
Holliger, Cheshire, England (Present UK)
1721
1721
Age 41
Pittsylvania, Virginia, United States
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