Van Valkenburgh and Van Alen

11/12/2011 at 11:18 PM

In tracing the roots of the poet Richard Wilbur, I found that there were many Wilburs in Chatham, Columbia County, New York. One of them, Samuel b. 1809 married an Elsie Maria Van Valkenburgh b. 1815.

John Jay Van Valkenburgh is her father. Her mother is a Van Alen.

Do they fit somewhere here?

11/13/2011 at 12:01 AM

Hey, Hatte, we're never shy of challenges :-)

11/13/2011 at 12:05 AM

I think this is her ancestor, a New Amsterdam immigrant. I'll check and compare sources.
Jochem Lambertse Van Valkenburgh

11/13/2011 at 12:12 AM

There are a lot of Van Valkenburgh wills online on various sites from Columbia County, so there's loads of names to look at, likely all related to John Jay.

11/13/2011 at 12:17 AM

Actually, perhaps your question is more about the van Alen? Because, there are no ancestors here for her van Alen mother? (The Valkenburgh line is totally correct)

11/13/2011 at 1:40 AM

There are a lot of Van Valkenburgh and I thought they would be represented in your New Amsterdam project and I'm glad to see that they are.

Maybe we need to look for the van Alens?

11/13/2011 at 1:52 AM

http://dunhamwilcox.net/ny/ny_rev_levies_albany2.htm Nice source for Albany listing several van Alens, including Gilbert van Alen, the father of Catherine. Lots and lots of names that likely connect to your work.

http://otal.umd.edu/~walt/gen/htmfile/1928.htm

11/13/2011 at 1:58 AM

Perhaps this family since it's the same town (Kinderkook, Columbia County, New York)?

11/13/2011 at 1:59 AM

Yeps, I have them almost connected :-)

11/13/2011 at 2:04 AM

Done! :-)

11/13/2011 at 2:09 AM

You work fast. I was researching it and suddenly he had a father and grandfather and so on. Excellent. I finally connected (indirectly) to New Amsterdam!

11/13/2011 at 2:50 AM

Before you know it, you may even have an immigrant forefather there :-)

11/13/2011 at 3:16 AM

I am connected to the Van Alens and Van Valkenburghs, but only because Elsie van Valkenburgh married Samuel Wilbor (Wilbur) born 1809. Samuel and I both are descendants of the first Samuel Wildbore, me through Shadrach and Samuel born 1809 through William.

Still haven't connected Richard Wilbur the poet to the Wilburs, but his ancestors and these Wilbor/Wilburs were living in the same small town at the same time.

http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/genhistcolco/chapt5_...

11/13/2011 at 2:18 PM

I don't know if this will help, but thought you might want to look at it, if you haven't seen it already.....It doesn't have Wilburs in it, but it does list Van Valkenburghs and Van Alens.

11/13/2011 at 2:58 PM

Thanks Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c)! I had seen it but not yet had time to really study it. There are good Columbia County sources online and they will be useful. Are you an expert on Columbia County? I want to link the Wilbor project to a project on that era of Columbia County at some point. I've been working in MA, CT, and RI so far but this family has pulled me into NY and NE.

11/13/2011 at 3:06 PM

I'm certainly no expert....just working on my family of Van Ness' and when I saw that you mentioned Kinderhook, I looked at his document I found last week. I am related to the Van Alens and, I think the, VanValkenburghs...

11/13/2011 at 3:10 PM

Some families seem to move around a lot.....others, like my Payne ancestors have lived in the same state since they came to this country in the 1600s. The ones that move all the time seem to be the most difficult.....but not always.

http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/genhistcolco/chapt5_...

11/13/2011 at 3:27 PM

Here is something that mentions Wilbors and Van Valkenburghs.

11/13/2011 at 3:30 PM

Hatte Blejer
Sorry wrong link. Here it is.
http://www.archive.org/stream/AmericanAncestryGivingTheNameAndDesce...

11/13/2011 at 4:22 PM

Thanks! I got a couple of new Wilbors and saw a second Wilbor Van Valkenburgh marriage (Eveline Wilbor and James G. Van Valkenburgh).