Richard I, 'The Fearless', Duke of Normandy - Record of Alternative Data After Merges

Sorry to be in one of my more pedantic moods.

But if Guischard I (surely a man's name) and Emma Warren existed and had children by Richard I it was surely as partners ("concubines") rather than wives. I see both profiles are managed only by one person, which I find extraordinary if they are historical fact 1,100 years ago. If you look at Emma Warren's tree it goes nowhere. If you look at Guischard I's tree it does go somewhere (to the Sackvilles) and after two or three generations you find that the profiles are managed by lots of people (including Justin Swanstrom) so at that point the tree becomes historical reality; before that point it looks like imaginative construction. (Sorry if I offend the manager of the profile).

If the managers of these two alleged people can produce sources, even dubious ones, for their existence, then I'd keep them as possible concubines.

Don't apologize for being pedantic, Mark. Our secret agenda here is to lure you deeper and deeper into these medieval profiles ;)

I looked at Guischard and Emma when I was doing some of the preliminary merging in this area. Decided they need more research. My guess is that they belong somewhere else on the tree. This probably represents someone's attempt to construct a genealogy without access to good sources.

Mark, you are right for Guischard being a male's name. But add and E at the end and it becomes a female's name (in French). Anyway I don't think there used to be sch at that time. It would most probably have been Guiscarde. CH is a later form like the transformation from castel (castle in English) to modern French château.

Justin,

Dammit, your secret agenda seems to be working.

But the big gap (in England) seems to me to be between the 1530s and the 1700s, when records were supposed to be kept but obviously weren't in a lot of places.

And as for the earlier comment on the "Dark Ages" we have some copies of Anglo-Saxon wills (including wills by women, who legally didn't hold property in their own right between 1066 and the mid-nineteenth century). The horrible old William the Conqueror and the horrible old Henry VIII have drastically reduced genealogical possibilities.

Is anyone doing serious work on the Balkans (where I currently live)/

Anyway, "Warren" is impossible as early French, surely. Warine, OK.

And related to rabbits, apparently intoduced to England by the Normans.

Is there a Celtic family name equivalent to "Dormouse", introduced as a food source by the Romans?

I love this conversation from a historical and linguistic standpoint. And all the clever comments! Mea culpa Sharon :)

Well that lowers the tone, Mark :-) I had always thought the British relationship to the Dormouse was through gorgeously illustrated children's stories - now you say they ate them!!! The horror The horror :-)

:-) Hatte.

i think rabbits are all over the world.

Post script - the dormouse is sometimes even called 'the edible dormouse'. Of course now they are protected (although they can be a nuisance if they get into your attic) and can only be handled by those with a specific license.

Eish! Alice in Wonderland's TeaParty is looking soooo different from here :-)

Ah but edible or not they are very sweet and called dormouse because they mostly just sleep - Dormer

I doubt that Geni.com can trace the ancestry of dormice (or, for example, fruit-flies) unless we have a completely manic and extremely busy curator, who would die on the job very quickly.

But I do wonder whether they might not find a marketplace for the pedigrees of horses, dogs, and cats; if the betting shops haven't beaten them to it

woodman there is a horse pedigree tree on geni with thousands of horses in it, just trying to locate it now...

Herod here we go

Be careful someone doesn't merge him with King Herod ;)

ROFL. Maybe we should MP him?? :-) :-)

Horses do have pedigrees and so do cats and gogs but my cats are just plain old reg. ones.( joke)
They probably could get DNA out the cat mummy's that are out there!

Richard the I 'The Fearless', Duke of Normandy is my 27th Great Grandfather.