Fracked trees - NO thanks to "Genesis of the White Family"!

Maven - which direction are you going in - up the tree or down the tree?

I show the "common ancestor" of my (current 10th cousin x something) and me to be

Maurice FitzGerald, 2nd Lord of Offaly

I can "walk that path" to document.

Or I can chase the "down the tree" target.

Up, down, all around....

The separation - and the problems - both start here: Thomas Le White of Somerset

He's the first definite "White of Somerset" - but he's had Yorkshire sons grafted on to him who probably don't belong.

His (probable) grandson, Thomas White of Martock, was assessed for taxes at Martock in 1333.

Thomas' (probable) son, John White of Martock, went off to fight in Aquitaine in 1371 and had a king's writ to protect his lands and possessions during his absence.

Two, maybe three, generations are obscure or have been obscured.

Then we finally start to get a clear series (and more trouble):

John White of Somerset

Robert? White of Somerset

Thomas White of Somerset and his wife Agnes Richards White, of Somerset (just common Somerset folk; they do NOT belong to the high-flying Swanborne/Farnham/London crowd).

George White of Somerset, John White of Somerset, Richard White of Somerset, Alice Coles, of Somerset, and Thomas White, Jr. of Somerset belong here, not in Hampshire or Surrey or London.

Richard White of Somerset's wife, Helen White, was a Somerset commoner just as he was.

So also their eight children, of whom only Robert White "the elder" matters much, and that because his grandson John White of Lancaster emigrated to Massachusetts and hatched a brood of little Americans.

I should say "matters much to the LDS", with their Americentrism.

I'm ever so thankful that John White of Martock John White of Martock *did* get into the Gascon Rolls - he was the tipoff that there really was a very, very distantly connected line of Whites who were just plain Somerset farmers.

Emma Siggins White tried *so* very hard to destroy all traces of this line of "commoners" so that she could "prove" that her husband was closely connected to nobility and royalty. But she missed this guy - and he undoes all her work.

Just reading this now, wow, I see Ellen still has Messing as her death place.....

Just to be clear.

Emma Siggins White was a genealogist working born in 1857. She is not a current Geni user. Unfortunately her book on the White family is a source in the Family History library and there are LDS based records / trees built from that book.

See https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.a...

I think we need to Bump this periodically - there is still vestigial damage from the crazy mismerging that went on, and every so often somebody tries to re-enter the same old Bad Information.

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I am sure Erica and other curators must have mentioned that if you need us to Master any profiles to help you here just post it and we would do it.

Mastering helps but isn't foolproof - a bad marge can still mess up relationships. And bad information can be locked in before someone realizes it's wrong.

Erica Howton i did not know that thanks.. Private User and erica you can ignore the message i sent you about it.. I assumed falsely it was another member causing the greif..

Bad birthplace information locked in on Margaret White - she was born in Surrey, NOT Somerset.
There are some really fishy profiles connected:
Thomas White of Pernix - unless he was a cleric, he would totally screw the succession.
William Wright, of Kelvedon - born in Essex, not Hampshire, and has a clerical cut to his jib (no wife, no children, lived to 90).
Edmund White - born in Norfolk?!?!

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I changed the birthplace of Margaret White

Thank you, Angus!

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As I mentioned if you need anything changed message one of us..and also post what needs to be done in here..so we will get it one way or the other..