Exciting Gottheimer Family project!

Started by Malka Mysels on Wednesday, December 9, 2015
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12/9/2015 at 2:30 PM

A week or so ago in response to the launching of Hamilton Jordan, Chief of Staff to President Carter's biography "A Boy from Georgia" a few of us teamed up to search for the progenitors of his enigmatic Jewish "Gottheimer" grandmother.

. . . "Jordan wrote about 90% of the work, with Kathleen, a TV/film comedy executive, penning the balance. Jordan's original title for the memoir was Meet the Gottheimers, a reference to the fact that he had discovered, not until he was in college, that his maternal grandmother had been Jewish." Wikipedia

"A Boy From Georgia": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CiwyLqbnmo
http://www.geni.com/people/Hamilton-Jordan-Chief-of-Staff/600000003...

Since then our research has transported us back through the portals of time to sixteenth century feudal German from where the Gottheimer Family hurtles on to the world stage as immigrant peddlers in the UK to titans in business, scatter all over the world---even ending up in Parliament, foreshadowing Hamilton Jordan's access to the Oval office.

Along the way this amazing family even manages to end up as media bylines in the notorious Leo Frank Trial, Jack-the-Ripper Murder Mystery, debunking the Hitler Diaries, plus now we are tangentially investigating a direct descent from Pocahontas to descendant Hamilton Jordan.

Any ideas, leads or help to work these family branches, extending any direction, would be greatly appreciated.

QUESTION

1. Is there possibly a chance that Dr. Elisabeth Altmann-Gottheiner's husband Fritz Friedrich Altmann is connected to Randy's "Woman of Gold" Maria Altmann's family?
Fritz (Friedrich, Frederick) Altmann

List of Gottheimer Family heads
(earliest known ancestor, chronologically listed)
http://www.geni.com/projects/Meet-the-Gottheimers/30310

Etymology of Jewish Name Origins: GOTTHEIMER] (G) from Gottenheim, Baden

Some Notables

1. [Dr. phil. Bethel Henry (Bartel Heinrich) Strousberg Barthel Heinrich Strausberg]

2. Baron Albert Grant

3. Arthur Clarence Smadbeck

4. Dr. Julius Grant

5. Prof. Dr. Elisabeth Altmann-Gottheiner

6. Hamilton Jordan, Chief of Staff

12/9/2015 at 3:46 PM

Filehne Jewish Community
Circumcision registers (1812-1864)

Catalog of the Archival Collections
 By Leo Baeck Institute, Fred Grubel

Does anyone know how to retrieve this?

https://books.google.com/books?id=hqzCTJ6DODIC&pg=PA239&lpg...

12/9/2015 at 4:44 PM

Judith Berlowitz Some of the Gottheimers stem from Filehne and Schlonlanke. According to the Jewish Encyclopedia Filehne belongs to Posen of your Philippsborn Family.

http://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Philippsborn-Philipsborn-Family...

Do you have any suggestions as to how we should proceed re our Gottheimer Family?

12/9/2015 at 5:07 PM

Adam Robert Brown, Private User Any chance you could use your contacts or easy access to help get a copy of the Filehne Circumcision registers located at the Leo Baeck Institute. Not sure which one, in New York, or Berlin?
http://www.geni.com/projects/Leo-Baeck-Institute/18263

Filehne Jewish Community
Circumcision registers (1812-1864)
Catalog of the Archival Collections
 By Leo Baeck Institute, Fred Grubel

https://books.google.com/books?id=hqzCTJ6DODIC&pg=PA239&lpg...

12/9/2015 at 10:38 PM

Malka, can you point to a specific connection between Filehne and Bentschen/Zbaszyn? If I see that I may be able to help.

12/10/2015 at 6:49 AM

Judith Berlowitz We are seeking Gottheimers from the
Poznań , Wieleń, Schönlanke, Schoenlange, Preußen Czarnków / Filehne. This area does not seem to include Bentschen/Zbaszyn.

However we have found quite a few resources to explore, but do not have experience with this area. eg.

Filehne:
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~community~-534946
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Maps/posen2.gif
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~community~-533257 Schönlanke [Ger], Schoenlanke, Kreisstadt

Posen Resources: JewishGen
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/PosenResources.html

Avotaynu:
www.avotaynu.net/backissues/issues/1991-1-10-19.pdf
Jacob Jacobson. .... . . . in Poznan (see "Jewish Genealogical Research in Poland,". Vol. V, No.2) ..... "Gottheimer", Green, Gubbay, Geudalla, Guedelia, Guggenheim,.


USHMM ARCHIVES:
http://collections.ushmm.org
Contact reference@ushmm.org for further information about this collection

Rejencja Pograniczna Poznań‐Prusy Zachodnie w Pile (Sygn. 307), 1871‐1945

Regierung Posen‐Westpreussen in Schneidemuehl
http://collections.ushmm.org/findingaids/RG-15.122M_01_fnd_en.pdf
File 347 - 48 - 51

Accounting of the Jewish congregation of the district of Filehne, 1899‐1912. Finances – accounting and budget control.

Debt department of the Jewish congregation in the district of Filehne (Wielen), 1989‐1915W XIX and XX w. The Jewish congregation in Filehne was not in debt.

Administration of the Jewish community and election of representatives in the Schoenlanke Trzcianka Corporation, 1871‐ 1935.
among others the by‐laws of the Jewish congregation of 1871.

Publishing house: M.L. Bamberger, History of the Jews in Schoenlanke. Berlin 1912.
Assessment of Jews in Schoenlange Trzcianka, 1896‐1928. Finances of the Jewish congregation (synagogue congregatio) w Trzcianka. Synagogue's debts.

Election and confirmation of the Jewish Eldest and Rabbi in the town of Schoenlanke, 1830‐1928. among others, list of candidates for election of rabbi on 16. August 1925.(name, surname, signature).

Also would love information on
Rabbiner Jacob Gottheimer from Schönlanke/Schneidemühl?

ie. http://www.litdok.de/cgi-bin/litdok?lang=sk&t_idn=c0080749m

Názov:Gottheimer, J. from

Biographisches Handbuch der Rabbiner - Teil 1, Band 1. Die Rabbiner der Emanzipationszeit in den deutschen, böhmischen und großpolnischen Ländern 1781-1871. Band 1: Aach - Juspa : München 2004, 380

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Has anyone read this book?

Udi Cain's book on Posen including Filehne & website:
http://www.dankazez.com/udi/books.html
"From Prussia With Love To Berlin And Eretz Yisrae"

Jewish families and communities from Posen province, Prussia. Facts about the history and life of the Jews in Poland, Prussia--and the migration to Berlin and Eretz Yisrael.

The book was compiled with the help of many friends, including professor Werner S. Zimmt, Dr. Irene Newhouse, professor Yoav Gelber, and others. 544 pages, hard cover, with more than 150 documents and photos.

. . . This extremely valuable history was assemble at the end of the 19th century and updated several time before WWI. To my knowledge, it has never been fully translated, and even here, only articles about some of the town histories are translated.

These include: Filehne, Graetz, Jaratschewo, Kempen, Kurnik, Obornik, Rawitsch, Rogasen,Schneidemuehl, Schocken, Schrimm, Zerkow.

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