Query on John PAYNE

Started by Private User on Tuesday, November 21, 2017
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There are 2 John PAYNE's that appear to have become confused in a few trees.

FAMILY 1
Father John Payne, Free "Victory" 1855 1833-1919
Mother Sarah Payne, Free "Ramillies" 1850 1844-1900
Children
- 1861 Emily Jane Sykes
- 1864 Ernest William Payne
- 1867 Beatrice Gertrude Payne
- 1869 Annie Payne
- 1871 John Sutton Payne

FAMILY 2
Father - John Payne, Convict "Claudine" 1829 1808
Mother -Sarah Morris - Payne, Free ”Augusta Jessie “1837
Children
- 1860 Frances E Payne
- 1860 John Payne
- 1861 Emily Jane Sykes
- 1864 Ernest William Payne
- 1865 David Payne
- 1867 Beatrice Gertrude Payne
- 1869 Annie Payne
- 1871 John Sutton Payne

It appears as if the following children have been entered as the children of both sets
- 1861 Emily Jane PAYNE
- 1864 Ernest William PAYNE
- 1867 Beatrice Gertrude PAYNE
- 1869 Annie PAYNE
- 1871 John Sutton PAYNE

Can anyone add any information on these children?

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVIC... has John PAYNE - Convict "Claudine" as the father of
1) John PAYNE born 1860 Mt Pleasant
2) David PAYME born 1865 Patricks Plains

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-20507891-12-500149/joh... has John PAYNE born 1808 as the father of
- Emily Jane 1861 Wellington, NSW
- Ernest William 1864 Wellington, NSW
- Beatrice Gertrude 1867 Wellington, NSW
- Annie 1869 Wellington, NSW
- John Sutton 1871 Dubbo, NSW

Ancestry.com records have

* Sarah WATERS (convict on "Asia") married William MORRIS (convict "Augusta")
* John PAYNE married Sarah MORRIS in 1860 at Maitland

* John PAYNE married Sarah SUTTON in Wellington

* Emily J PAYNE born 1861 Wellington to JOHN PAYNE and Sarah
* Earnest W PAYNE born 1864 Wellington to John PAYNE and Sarah
* Annie PAYNE born 1869 Wellington to John PAYNE and Sarah
* Frances E PAYNE born 1860 Sydney to John PAYNE and Sarah
* John Sutton PAYNE born 1871 Dubbo to John PAYNE and Sarah
* David PAYNE born 1865 Patricks Plain to John PAYNE and Sarah
* John PAYNE born 1860 Maitland to John PAYNE and Sarah
* Beatrice G PAYNE for 1867 Wellington to John PAYNE and Sarah

The children born in Wellington and Dubbo are
* Emily J 1861
* Earnest W 1864
* Beatrice G 1867
* Annie 1869
* John Sutton 1871

The children NOT born in Wellington are
* John 1860 Maitland
* Frances E 1860 Sydney
* David 1865 Patricks Plains

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