Philippus Snyman - Sources?

Johannes Marthinus Snyman do you have any we can use?

The MOOC https://media.geni.com/p13/d9/f0/10/7a/5344484427ba8e35/aa_original... mentions

Philippus Snijman
Elsie Potgieter
Cornelia Snijman
Johanna Margarita Snijman

Johanna remarries 17 April 1735, http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g6/p6251.htm

Will have a look !

Hi, I think baptism records for some of this family might be in an unindexed batch of Tulbach records (from pg 182 onwards) on family search

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-WTT9?i=184&am...

I have uploaded Baptism Records for his sons Philippus and Jacobys Snijman / Snyman under their Sources. Still searching for records of the other children mentioned.

Thank you

Johanna Margaretha van Deventer
Born about 1703
Deceased after 1743

Parents
Gerrit Jansz van Deventer 1653-1728
Ariaantje Jacobs 1673-1713/

Spouses and children
Married 14 April 1726 to Philippus Snyman 1701-1732..1735
M Christoffel Snyman 1727-1783
M Philippus Snyman 1728-
M Gerrit Snyman 1730-1784/
M Jacobus Snyman 1732-1771/

Married 7 April 1735, Paarl, to Johann Heinrich Debes 1678-1743/ with
F Adriana Debes 1740-1766/
F Johanna Dorothea Debes 1743-1769

https://gw.geneanet.org/donmac?lang=en&pz=nicholas&nz=mcart...

Looking for primary sources, Cecilia. Are those anywhere on that site?

I have uploaded Baptism Records for Johanna Dorothea (van Rooyen). But her surname is actually "Debitz" on her Baptism Records (Debes).

The date is 5 October 1743 (although it looks like a 1793 but is not.

Father is : Johan Hendrik Debitsz as per Baptism Record (Profile under Johann Heinrich Debitz / Debes)
Mother : Johanna Margrita van Deventer (Profile Johanna Margaretha van Deventer)
Witnesess : Jacob van Deventer and Dorothea Coetzer

I don't know if someone must change the fathers profile from Philippus Snyman or delete his profile as her father, and connect her to the profile for "Johan Hendrik Debitsz" (Johann Heinrich Debitz / Debes).

I will check on the other children van Rooyen as well for sources.

The Baptism Records for Johanna Dorothea, seems to be for the sister of Johanna Margaretha van Deventer and not (JD van Rooyen).

Have removed the upload under her Profile, and added the records under Johanna Dorothea Debes van der Vyver. (b. 1743)

I found this on MyHeritage. I know it is not Primary Sources, but it gives a different set of parents for the van Rooyen children under Philippus Snyman, which look very similar to the names listed as the van Rooyen children of Philippus Snyman.

Not sure if that might shed some light on their parentage.

Adriana Muller (born van Rooyen)
MyHeritage Family TreesMuller Web Site, managed by Johanna Muller

BirthSep 28 1721 - Drakenstein, Cape Province, South Africa
Death1789 - Tulbagh, Swellendam, South Africa, Cape
ParentsCornelis Johannes Van Rooyen (Van Rooijen), Jacomina Aletta Van Rooyen (Svprog 1, A1) (born Van Deventer)
SiblingsSophia Emerentia Botha (born Van Rooyen), Aletta Jacomina Potgieter (born Van Rooyen), Reijnier Van Rooijen, Johanna (Jannetje Van Rooijen) Kock (born Van Rooyen), Albertha Maria Catharina Janse Van Rensburg (born Van Rooyen), Johanna Margaretha (Anna Margaretha Snyman Grietje Van Rooijen) Snyman (born Van Rooyen), Gerrit Van Rooyen (Van Rooijen), Johannes Van Rooyen, Cornelis (Van Rooijen Van Roijen) Van Rooyen
HusbandAntonie Michael Muller
ChildrenHillegard (Hilgard) Muller, Cornelius Johannes Muller, Jacomina Aletta Ferreira (born Muller), Margaretha Alberta Meyer, B4 (born Muller), Margaretha Albertha Meyer (born Muller), Sara Elizabeth Muller, Susanna Elisabeth Muller, Elizabeth Sophia Adriana Janse(N) Van Rensburg (born Muller), Maria Catharina Botha, b7 (born Muller), Martha Johanna Ferreira (born Muller), Hester Agnessa Holtzhausen (born Muller), Hester Angenessa Holtshausen (born Muller), Josina Adriana Muller, Michael Arnoldus Muller, Hillegaard Muller, Unknown

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Adriana Muller (born van Rooyen)
In MyHeritage Family Trees

Name Adriana Muller (born van Rooyen)
Birth Sep 28 1721
Drakenstein, Cape Province, South Africa
Death 1789
Tulbagh, Swellendam, South Africa, Cape
Burial Western Cape, South Africa
Family members
Parents
Cornelis Johannes Van Rooyen (Van Rooijen)
1695 - 1768
Jacomina Aletta Van Rooyen (Smprog 1, A1) (born Van Deventer)
1692 - 1737
Husband
Antonie Michael Muller
1716 - 1768
Siblings
Sophia Emerentia Botha (born Van Rooyen)
1723 - 1751
Reijnier Van Rooijen
1726 - 1770
Albertha Maria Catharina Janse Van Rensburg (born Van Rooyen)
1728 - 1779
Gerrit Van Rooyen (Van Rooijen)
1732 - 1790
Cornelis (Van Rooijen Van Roijen) Van Rooyen
1737 - 1780
Aletta Jacomina Potgieter (born Van Rooyen)
1724 - ?
Johanna (Jannetje van Rooijen) Kock (born Van Rooyen)
1727 - 1782
Johanna Margaretha (Anna Margaretha Snyman Grietje van Rooijen) Snyman (born Van Rooyen)
1730 - 1782
Johannes Van Rooyen
1733 - ?
Children
Kmdt Hillegard (Hilgard) Muller
1747 - 1834
Jacomina Aletta Ferreira (born Muller)
1750 - 1816
MARGARETHA ALBERTHA Meyer (born Muller)
1752 - 1820
Susanna Elisabeth Muller
1754 - 1772
Maria Catharina Botha, b7 (born Muller)
1758 - 1836
Hester Agnessa Holtzhausen (born Muller)
1762 - 1824
Josina Adriana Muller
1764 - 1766
Hillegaard Muller
Cornelius Johannes Muller, B2
1748 - 1818
Margaretha Alberta Meyer, B4 (born Muller)
1752 - 1820
Sara Elizabeth Muller
1754 - ?
Elizabeth Sophia Adriana Janse(N) Van Rensburg (born Muller)
1756 - ?
Martha Johanna Ferreira (born Muller)
1760 - 1815
Hester Angenessa Holtshausen (born Muller)
1762 - 1824
Michael Arnoldus Muller
? - 1844
Unknown

Careful with MyHeritage.
Can give a lead but too often just postbox red herrings!

Yes I know. I thought it may just help to identify a possible different set of parents than Philippus Snyman.

I have been searching for sources for these van Rooyen children to see if they are connected to Philippus as his children, but as yet have not found Primary Source Documents for them.

Will continue keeping an eye out, that they may appear on other pages of records along the way.

In the meantime, I am uploading records as I find them. I start from the top of the page and work myself down, until I have uploaded all those records, then continue on to the next set of records.

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Hard work but worth it

Yes. And Fun.

Much appreciated

I see under Reynier van Rooijen / Rooyen's Sources, there are Baptism Record for him. His link is below.

Reijnier van Rooyen

It shows that his father is Cornelis van Rooijen, and mother Jacomijn van Deventer. Witnesses : Willem Nel and Johanna Margaretha van Deventer.

So parents are not Philippus Snijman / Snyman and Johanna Margaretha van Deventer.

Sure his van Rooijen / Rooyen siblings parents will also be Cornelis and Jacomijn (Jacomina).

Reijnier van Rooijen's Baptism date : 2 June 1726.

Will do.

Sharon, i have found a lot of sources on Reijnier van Rooijen's profile on FamilySearch.

It shows his wife is Hester Gouts (Gouws), and their children as well with Sources.

Cornelis van Rooijen and Jacomijn / Jacomina van Deventer's profiles you added, already exist. I remember seeing them.

Jacomijn /Jacomina van Deventer was also married to Johan Heinrich Debes (Delitch), who was also married to Johanna Margaretha van Deventer, (married to Philippus Snijman / Snyman)

I think that's where the confusion with the van Rooyen children's parentage came in.

Before I upload any Sources, I think we must get the new profiles for Cornelis van Rooijen (full name : Cornelis Johannes van Rooijen b. 1659, d. 17 July 1768), and Jacomijn / Jacomina van Deventer b. 9 March 1692, d. 24 March 1737) that you added as parents for Reijnier van Rooijen, merged into the existing profiles for them.