John Harding, Sr., of Eastham - John Harding and Unknown Hurst???????

Disputed origins

John Harding, {Fictional} was not a known son of Martha Harding Their only known child was Joseph Harding, Jr., of Duxbury

See https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Doane-85, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Harding-358, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Harding-357

It looks like this whole tree needs to be taken apart.

From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Harding-357

This is the profile for John Harding, son of Joseph Harding and Martha (Doane) Harding, who was described in Wilbur J. Harding's Hardings in America. As discussed in Hardings in America Debunked, many of the claims made by Wilbur J. Harding in the book regarding earliest Hardings in New England have proven to have been fabrications. The claims with respect to this profile's John Harding are discussed below.

Disputed Claims

According to Wilbur Harding's claims: (1) Joseph Harding and Martha (Doane) Harding had a son named John who was born about 1625. (2) John's mother, Martha, had committed him to the care of John Doane previously to committing son Joseph to John Doane's care at the time of her death. (3) John completed his minority in Duxbury and Eastham before returning to Braintree to occupy his patrimonial estate. (4) John married _____ Hurst. (5) John had a daughter named Sarah, who married John Tower, and a son named John, who moved to Bridgewater about 1707.[1]

Problems with Disputed Claims

The problems with Wilbur Harding's claims regarding John Harding are:

As discussed in the profile for Joseph Harding and in Hardings in America Debunked, John's claimed father, Joseph Harding, appears to be a complete fabrication.
As discussed in Martha (Doane Harding's profile, evidence indicates that Martha only had one child and that child was Joseph Harding of Eastham. There is no evidence that Martha (Doane) Harding had a son named John.
There was a John Harding on a list of men 16-60 at Duxbury able to bear arms in 1643,[2] but no evidence connects him to Martha (Doane) Harding, John Doane or to Braintree. There is no evidence that John Doane (John Harding's supposed custodian while he was a minor) ever lived in Duxbury.[3][4] John Doane himself was on the 1643 list of men at Plymouth (not Duxbury) able to bear arms.[5]
No evidence has been found of the presence of a John Harding in Eastham prior to Joseph Harding of Eastham's son John.
No evidence has been found of the marriage in New England in 1640-1660 of a John Harding (or variant thereof) and a woman whose surname was Hurst.
As discussed in the profile for John Hardman, John Hardman of Braintree was probably the father of Sarah who married John Tower and John Harding who moved to Bridgewater in 1707.
Sources

↑ 1.0 1.1 Harding, Wilbur J. The Hardings in America. The Harding Printing Co., 1925. pp 21-22. Link to pages at hathitrust.org.
↑ 2.0 2.1 Shurtleff, Nathaniel B. Records of the Colony of New Plymouth in New England. Vo. VIII. Miscellaneous Records 1633-1689. p. 190. Link to page at archive.org.
↑ 3.0 3.1 Anderson, Robert Charles. The Great Migration Begins. Immigrants to New England 1620-1633. Volume I A-F. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1955. pp. 558-563. Link to pages at ancestry.com.
↑ 4.0 4.1 Morrison, Steven W. Unearthing John Done - A Plymouth Colony Late Comer. 2012. Link to paper at doanefamilyassociation.org.
↑ 5.0 5.1 Shurtleff, Nathaniel B. Records of the Colony of New Plymouth in New England. Vo. VIII. Miscellaneous Records 1633-1689. p. 188. Link to page at archive.org.

Dean Richard Hobart

Could I enlist your help with this family?

Have to start with the kids.

So we we should start by fixing this.

https://www.geni.com/path/Michael-McDonald+is+related+to+John-Harding-Fictional?from=5413844596620104639&path_type=blood&to=6000000000560164929

I think the parents of Sarah Tower are not Hannah Harding, {Fictional} & John Harding, {Fictional}

What do we have for sources on the family of John Tower, Jr.

“As discussed in the profile for John Hardman, John Hardman of Braintree was probably the father of Sarah who married John Tower and John Harding who moved to Bridgewater in 1707.”

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Harding-1281

As discussed in the profile for John Harding, however, the John Harding described in Hardings in America is almost a complete fabrication. Instead, as discussed in detail in the profile for John Hardman, it is likely that Margaret and her sister Sarah were daughters of John Hardman of Braintree and his wife Sarah (Pray) Hardman.
Sarah the daughter of John Hardin was born in Braintree.
She married John Tower 14 May 1669.
She died 16 Oct 1729.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hardman-1776

Children

John's estate records establish that John and Sarah had four children, who were all minors at the time of his death in April 1667. The births of two of their children -- Mary in 1652 and John in 1654 -- are recorded in the Braintree vital records. No record of daughter Mary has been found other than her birth record. As discussed is his profile, son John was probably the John Hardman/Harding/Hardin of Braintree who removed to Bridgewater about 1708. The other two children were probably Margaret and and Sarah, daughters of John Hardin, who were married in Hingham in 1668 and 1669, respectively.

The assertion that Margaret Hardin and and Sarah Hardin, daughters of John Hardin, who were married in Hingham in 1668 and 1669, were the daughters of this profile's John Hardman is based on the following facts: (1) According to Tower Genealogy, Margaret and Sarah and their father John Hardin were from Braintree.[14] (2) Margaret was the name of John Hardman's mother and Sarah was the name of John Hardman's wife. (3) There is no evidence of a different John Harding/Hardin of Braintree who could have been Margaret and Sarah's father. (4) Unless Margaret and Sarah were John Hardman's children, two of his children are otherwise unaccounted for. (5) The evidence discussed in "Change in Last Name" in the profile for John Hardman's son John suggests that the family name gradually changed from from Hardman to Harding/Hardin/Harden after the death of this profile's John Hardman. (6) Since the marriage records were recorded in Hingham, it is not surprising that a different spelling of their last name would have been used than the one that had been used in Braintree. (7) The fact that Margaret and Sarah were married in 1668 and 1669 is highly consistent with the fact that John Hardman died in 1665, as it was common for children to marry relatively quickly after their parents' deaths.

Based on the foregoing, John Hardman's and Sarah (Pray) Hardman's four children very probably were:

1. Sarah, b. probably about 1648-9 in Lynn, Massachusetts, m. May 14, 1669 John Tower in Hingham,[15][14] d. October 16, 1729[14]
2. Margaret, b. probably about 1650-1 in Lynn, Massachusetts, m. April 24, 1668 Ibrook Tower in Hingham,[16][14] d. November 19, 1705 in Hingham[14]
3. Mary, b. December 9, 1652 in Braintree.[17] No further record. Presumably alive as one of John Hardman's four living children at the time of his death in 1667.
4. John, b. November 9, 1654 in Braintree,[17] m. about 1672 Hannah/Anna _______,[18] d. 1718 in Bridgewater[18]

Sarah Tower

The children attached to the fictional John Harding, {Fictional}

I re located Sarah Tower already.

So who are all the others attached at John Harding, {Fictional}?

John Harding, {Fictional} This profile, as of 4 September 2023, shows as attached the same as

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Harding-117

Father of

1. John Harding, Died 1650 at about age 59 in Weymouth, Suffolk, Massachusetts Bay Colony
2. Lemuel Harding, no info
3. Amos Harding, This person was created through the import of Bishop Family Tree.ged on 18 February 2011. The following data was included in the gedcom. You may wish to edit it for readability.
4. Oliver Harding, This person was created through the import of Bishop Family Tree.ged on 18 February 2011. The following data was included in the gedcom. You may wish to edit it for readability.
5. Joseph Harding, Born about 1600 in Northampton, Northamptonshire, England, Died about 1630 at about age 30 in New England

None of those make any sense.

I’ve isolated the entire tree.