Sir Alexander Webb, Jr., Kt. - Debunking Alexander Webb’s Parentage

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Debunking

The story of Sir Alexander Webb II and his four immigrant sons is similar to the genealogical myths adopted by other surnames in America which say that all the great branches of the surname in America descend from the immigrant sons of a single common noble ancestor. (See, for example, The Legend of the Ashley Brothers.) The story of Sir Alexander Webb II and his four immigrant sons has the further advantage of making the Webbs of America related to William Shakespeare. Unfortunately, virtually nothing about the story is based on fact.

Debunking of Sir Alexander Webb II's Parentage

Since Alexander Webb and his wife Margaret (Arden) Webb were related to William Shakespeare, their lives have been researched by a multitude of Shakespeare experts. Contrary to many of the modern online family genealogies, Alexander Webb (the putative father) was not a knight, was never called "Sir" and was not even a "gentleman." Both his will and other records related to his life show that he was a humble "husbandman."[7] More critically, the evidence is fairly clear that he did not have a son named Alexander. Alexander (the putative father) left a 1573 will, which included bequests to his six children: Robert, Edward, Anne, Elizabeth, Mary and Sara.[8] The failure of the will to mention a son named Alexander is strong evidence that he did not have one. None of the profiles of Alexander (the putative father) in articles about Shakespeare's relatives mention a son named Alexander. The only record that could be read to mean that Alexander (the putative father) had a son named Alexander is a receipt by Agnes Arden of Wilmcote, widow (the sister of Alexander, the putative father), for 40s from Alexander Webbe for two messuages that she rented to him in 1560. Since the description of the receipt says it is dated 1580 and Alexander (the putative father) died in 1573, that record seems to suggest that he had a son named Alexander.[7] However, based on Alexander's (the putative father's) will and the absence of any other evidence supporting the proposition that Alexander (the putative father) had a son named Alexander, it is more likely that either the date on the description is wrong or the description incorrectly states that Alexander Webb paid the rent, when in fact it was his son Robert.

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Marriage

Sir Thomas Wilson, Private Secretary of Queen Elizabeth I, did, in fact, have a daughter named Mary. However, it is well established that Sir Thomas Wilson's daughter Mary Wilson married Robert Burdett of Bramcote, Warwickshire, who was a Member of Parliament.[9] No record or other reliable evidence has been found for the marriage between this profile's Alexander Webb and a Mary Wilson or an other woman.

Debunking of Sir Alexander Webb II's Parentage of the Four Webb Immigrants

The fact that the older unsourced printed family genealogies and modern online family genealogy pages for this profile's Alexander Webb all provide precise dates of birth for his sons suggests that there are birth records that establish those dates. No birth or baptismal record for any of the four Webb immigrants (Richard, William, Christopher or Henry) has, however, ever been cited, provided or discovered. In fact, no reliable evidence of any kind has been found that indicates that any of the four Webb immigrants were the sons of an Alexander Webb of Warwickshire. Robert Charles Anderson's Great Migration Begins contains a profile of Richard Webb of Norwalk. If there were reliable evidence of his origin or parentage, Anderson would have included it in his profile. However, Anderson states that Richard's origin is unknown and does not mention his parentage.[10] The origin of Christopher Webb of Braintree has now been established with a reasonably high degree of confidence. He lived in Crediton, Devonshire. There is no reason to believe that he somehow moved there from the Stratford-on-Avon area of Warwickshire. No reliable evidence has been found that connects any of the four Webb immigrants to each other. In fact, YDNA evidence to date finds no connection between any of the 20+ unrelated Webb branches that originated in the South and the descendants of Christopher Webb or any of the other 10+ unrelated Webb branches that originated in the North.[11] As is the case with most other surnames in the United States, the evidence indicates that the various Webb branches are descended from dozens of different unrelated immigrants.

Debunking of Sir Alexander Webb II's Immigration

No reliable evidence has been found of anyone meeting the description of Sir Alexander Webb II having immigrated to New England. The lack of any such evidence is confirmed by the fact that there is no entry for anyone close to his description in Robert Charles Anderson's 2015 The Great Migration Directory, which lists every person for which Anderson found evidence that they immigrated to New England in or before 1640.[12]

Debunking of Sir Alexander Webb II's Existence

In addition to the fact that, as discussed above, most of the information relating to Alexander is demonstrably false, there appears to be no reliable evidence that he existed at all. If he had existed, one would expect to find some shards of reliable evidence of this existence, such as parish records, court records, tax records, deeds or contracts, or estate records. However, no such reliable evidence of his existence has been cited, produced or discovered. Moreover, it he had existed, it is highly likely that he would have been mentioned by one of the many reputable Shakespeare researchers who have studied Shakespeare's relatives, since he would have been one of William Shakespeare's cousins; but he is not.[13][14][15][16][17][18] It therefore seems highly probable that he never existed and was instead created to serve as a link between the very real Alexander Webb of Bearley/Snitterfield and the four Webb immigrants (Richard, William, Christopher and Henry.) A nice story, but fictional.

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The four Webb immigrants - Richard, William, Christopher & Henry.

Richard Webb, of Norwalk

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The fraudulent pedigree is written out here:

  • Norwalk. By Charles Melbourne Selleck. Page 403. < GoogleBooks > Spurious pedigree.
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Pretty sure none of the following is true. Lordy!


WEBB-INTERPAGE.

Sir Alexander Webb, born 1484, was an officer of rank in the army of King Henry Eighth and had Henry, Mary and Abigail. His oldest son, Sir Henry Webb, born May 11, 1510, was an usher of the Court of Catharine Parr, Queen of Henry Eighth. He was a gentleman of Worship and married Grace Arden, sister of Robert Arden. These lived at Hampton Court after 1544 and had Alexander2nd and Agnes. Alexander2nd, born in Warwickshire, England, December 24, 1534, was the oldest son of Sir Henry Webb of Hampton Court by his wife Grace Arden. He married his cousin Margaret Arden and settled in Birmingham, England, his children being Robert, born in Warwickshire March 5, 1556, Margaret, born June 9, 1558, and Alexanderård, born August 20, 1559.

Alexander Webberd, born August 20, 1559, was the youngest son of Alexander Webb2nd and Margaret Arden. He married Mary, daughter of Sir Thomas Wilson, Private Secretary of Queen Elizabeth of England.

Their children were:

Richardus, born in Warwickshire May 5, 1580, came to Norwalk;
William, born in Warwickshire January 9, 1588;
John, born in Warwickshire October 23, 1597 ;
Christopher, born in Warwickshire April 15, 1599;
Henry, born in Warwickshire October 12, 1601.

Richard Webb, Sr., born in Warwickshire May 8, 1580, married, first, May, 1610, Grace, daughter of John Wilson, and had one son, Richard Webb, Jr., who may have Norwalk dwelt for a short time, but who went early to Stamford. The mother of Richard Webb, Jr., and first wife of Richard Webb, Sr., died soon after the birth of her son, Richard Webb, Jr., and with his brothers William, Christopher and Henry, Richard Webblat came to America in 1626. He married, second, in America, Elizabeth, daughter of Henry Gregory, Esq., a prominent citizen of Boston, and a sister of John Gregorylst of Norwalk. He went in 1636 to Hartford, Conn., with Rev. Thomas Hooker, where he was a leading man in the church and well known in the state.

He died at Norwalk, having accumulated a good property. Richard, Jr., born in Birmingham, England, January 9, 1611, came to America in 1626 with his father. He settled first in Massachusetts. He possibly joined his father at Norwalk, but moved on at once to Stamford, Conn.

The family in England resided mostly in Warwickshire before coming to America. Alexanderård, settled at Birmingham, while Robert, his older brother, remained on the estate near Stratford-on-Avon in Warwickshire. This estate was also the home of their father, Alexander2ud, and grandfather Sir Henry Webb of Hampton Court from 1544, after his marriage to Grace, sister of Robert Arden, who married, first, Mary, sister of Sir Henry Webb.

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Richard Webb, of Norwalk profile was updated 30 July 2022. Changes included:

Hatte Anne Blejer you curate Elizabeth Webb - please take a look.

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