John Rhoads, of Winegreaves & Darby

Erica Howton C

7/21/2023 at 12:47 PM

What is the evidence supporting John Rhodes, of Darby as son of Sir Francis Rodes, 1st Baronet & Elizabeth Rodes

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Rhodes-2091 Has several citations that parents are **not** known, and comments:

The 1919 Rhodes Family in America contains no documentation for its assertions regarding this man and contains ancestry known to be in error. It should be disregarded. The image of this page has been removed from the profile. < Archive.Org >

3. JOHN RHOADS OF WINEGREAVES, ENGLAND, AND DARBY,
PENNSYLVANIA

This is the representative Quaker branch of the family.

John of Winegreaves was born in Darbyshlre, England, and came to Darby, Pennsylvania, before 1700.

The family orig:inates from Baron Gerard de Rodes, who came from France to England in about 1140, during the reign of Henry II. Seventeen generations thereafter John of Winegreaves, a representative member, became a Quaker and removed to the nejv world. A large number of celebrated estates remain in possession of the British descendants of the family in England, and have been frequently visited by American members of that lineage.

It appears that at about the time Baron Gerard went to Britain, one brother went to Germany and another to Spain. Of the Spanish branch a representative member is now a Minister in the King's Cabinet. Descendants of the German branch came later to America and are found in the State of Wisconsin.

Excellent histories of certain branches of the American descendants of this family have been published in the "Maulsby Family" by Ella K. Barnard, Baltimore, 1909, and the "Clovercroft Chronicles," by Mary Rhoads Haines, published by J. B. Llppincott Company.

This Is one of the most notable families in the country. Through all the generations of their American life they have held with unvarying constancy to those high ideals of living, social intercourse and patriotism which inspired their early progenitors. Many of the enterprises established by the early branches of the family still remain, in highly developed and modern condition, in the possession of their descendants of this generation.

Erica Howton C

7/21/2023 at 12:55 PM

He was not the son of Sir Francis and has been detached.

“The Rodes Family.” The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography 6, no. 4 (1899): 418–20. http://www.jstor.org/stable/4242206.

Erica Howton C

7/21/2023 at 5:34 PM

We want to look at Elizabeth Jessop better. Burke’s has her as wife of John Rodes, of Sturton

And therefore the same as Elizabeth Rodes if Jason is a typo or alternate name (likely)

https://books.google.com/books?id=LKIKAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA449&lpg=PA449&d...

I think the wife of John Rhodes, of Darby is unknown altogether.

From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jessop-10

See husband profile for the information given by Quaker historian Gilbert Cope. Cope gives no maiden name for the wife of John Rhodes though states the family was of Derbyshire. The births of the children are recorded Chesterfield Monthly meeting. Many of the citations presently on this profile are for Notts. It is unknown if Elizabeth came to the colony. The transfer of membership minute reads simply John “and family.” There is no notation he was a widower nor indication of a second wife.

Also see https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/756956/who-are-the-parents-of-john-rho... for efforts to source & disambiguate this family

Erica Howton C

7/21/2023 at 5:50 PM

Separated Elizabeth Rhodes from parents. Her dates & locations need work & she’s missing children, I think.

Erica Howton C

7/21/2023 at 5:53 PM

An aside. It looks like Simon Jessup, Esq., of Colton really is part of the Puritan pilgrim Jessup family as a son of Francis Jessop but we should look further.

John Jessup Emigrated to Connecticut.

Private

7/23/2023 at 9:06 AM

I'll look around American Ancestors and the genealogical associations in Maryland and VA is see if anything has been written up that needs to be uploaded. Sounds from the Wikitree profile that there will be a lot of mix ups from people using those sources from the early 1900s since proven wrong. But, then, what's new!!??

Erica Howton C

7/23/2023 at 1:25 PM

I detached Simon Jessup, Esq., of Colton from the Jessup tree, his location does not fit. Boyd gives his daughter’s name as Elizabeth Jason, Burke’s as Elizabeth Jessup.

https://www.geni.com/people/Simon-Jessup-Esq-of-Colton/600000002165000117

See document attached

https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000196588133822

Erica Howton C

7/23/2023 at 3:10 PM

A Rodes genealogy which goes down to Kentucky & up to the time of the Conqueror.

“History and genealogy of the family of John Calvin Davis : including allied branches of the families of Tolliver, Connelly” ,... < FamilySearch > …Eng,, who married Elizabeth, dau. of Simon Jessop of Colton in Strat fordshire. John Rodes was the son of Clifton Rodes,... page 38. < link >; (document attached)

John Rhoads, of Winegreaves & Darby - Disputed origins

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