John Bird - Who’s his mama?

Erica Howton C

10/24/2023 at 2:26 PM

Private User Is questioning the parent conflict noted by curator Angus Wood-Salomon

The “usual” genealogies seen on the internet have one wife only for his father Thomas Bird, of Hartford Mary Bird For example, http://linton-research-fund-inc.com/bird_family_tree.html

But I see where the reference to Mary Belden as second wife, not the mother of his children, comes from:

Torrey, NE Marriages: BIRD, Thomas (bef 1653, 1662?) & Mary ____ (-ca 1660, 1664+?); by 1635?, by 1637; Hartford/Farmington, CT {Bird (1855) 5; Steele 7; Goodwin-Morgan 11-14; Booth (1910) 43; Flagg Anc. 276; Fulton Anc. 53; Sanborn Anc. 57; Sv. 1:182; Morse (,1) 106-107; Utah Gen. Mag 23:23, Bassett-Preston 33, Hartford Prob. 1:97; Warner-Harrington 60} BIRD, Thomas (-1662?) & 2/wf ____ [BELDEN?]; ?Hartford {Goodwin-Morgan 2:13}

The names in { } are references to articles where the marriage was discussed. So let’s see if they can be tracked down and clarified.

I should be able to find at least something at http://AmericanAncestors.Org using my subscription. They also have an Ask the Genealogist chat, I think I’ll use it to faster locate.

I’m transferring this over to a discussion so I don’t lose the plot, and I’ve unlocked “abouts.” That was from before we had relationship locking and a flock of confused Birds. Ha!

Erica Howton C

10/24/2023 at 2:57 PM

https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Thomas_Bird_%285%29 Shows three wives for Thomas Bird (d 1662)

1) Mary Belton (mother of Mary, Hannah, James and Joseph)
2) Anne Peck
3) Mary Belden in 1625 (mother of John Bird)

His emigration from England date seems to be 1639, so we can see if The Great Migration Begins has him.

Daughter Hannah Scott has been attached to the wrong parents - now fixed.

Erica Howton C

10/24/2023 at 5:24 PM

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bird-45

Origins

The Linton Research Fund, Inc. believes Thomas was the son of Andrew Bird (1572-1642) and Elizabeth Crumpe (1575–1637) of County Dublin, Ireland.

http://linton-research-fund-inc.com/index_1.html

Speculation on Thomas's origins

Possible Profile of Origins of Thomas Bird of Hartford: An unproven theory
Immigration

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Origins_of_Thomas_Bird_of_Hartf...

Thomas Bird was in Hartford, Connecticut by 1 May 1644 when he is mentioned as owning property.[1]

Some authors have claimed that he is the same Thomas Bird who was in Boston in 1639, referred to as Thomas Bird of Monaticott at Mount Woollystone. He was granted acreage. (In 1640, Mount "Woollaston" was given town privileges and was called Braintree. RC Anderson in the Great Migration Directory entry, however, suggests that there is not enough evidence to assume they are the same man.[2]

2. Anderson, Robert Charles. Great Migration Directory (NEHGS, 2015), p ??

Marriage and Children

The name of Thomas Bird's first wife remains unknown. She was the mother of his four, known children.

Thomas Bird later married, in his old age, Mary BELDEN, in 1660. They had no children.

Children by first wife (named in the distribution of their father's estate):

Mary m. John NORTH
Hannah m. Edmund SCOTT
James m1. 31 Mar 1657 Lydia STEELE,[3] m2 by 1663 Rebecca (maiden name unknown)
Joseph m. c 1659-160 Mary CLARKE, the daughter of Joseph CLARKE.

Erica Howton C

10/24/2023 at 5:33 PM

John Bird who married Temperance Bird was not a known son of Thomas Bird, of Hartford Detached 24 October 2023.

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