The mother and 3 children of the immediate family are correct - Rosamanda, Jeneta, and Elizabetha. Missing is Thomas christened 1 Jan 1634 at [Twiston], Downham, Lancashire, England. These records can be found in "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975." I haven't found a John(Johannes) but it would seem reasonable he could exist having been named after his father.
The father in all cases is Johannis Speake, but there are records missing/destroyed between Jun 1629 and1 Jan 1634.
Johannis Speake and Elizabethae Bieseley were married 5/10[?] May 1622, St Mary's Church, Whalley, Lancashire, England. Just above their marriage entry is a baptism for a __s Speake on the same day. If I really stretch my eyes and cross my fingers, I could almost convince myself this could be a Thomas. See: Lancashire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 for Elizawbetha Birsley
Bishop´s Transcripts, Whalley 1620-1629 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/657578949:2478 .
I don't mind telling you that the Speke/Speake family is a real mess. I have spent weeks trying to differentiate Thomas Speak from Colonel Thomas Speake who is related to my wife. Any suggestions would be helpful. There are two transcriptions of the same depostion given in by Thomas Speake in 1653. One says he was about 50 years of age, the other 30 years of age. I haven't been able to located the original written document but suspect someone misread a "3" for a "5" or vis-versa. I the REALLY help to know. See following:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/collaborate/G22X-TTH
See Virginia Colonial Abstracts: Northumberland Co, VA vol 1 (1652-5) by Beverly Fleet; p. 390, for a deposition Thomas gave in Nov 1653, in which he states his age as circa 30. His wife (at that time, named Ann) gave a deposition in that same court session; they both testifying about Henry & Thomas West, 2 young brothers brought to VA in 1648 by one Winter Chapman ---evidently on the same ship that Thomas & Ann had come on. Because Winter had died by Mar 1650 (when his inventory recorded in Northumberland Co records.) is why they, & a couple others who had immigrated together with Winter & the West brothers, are being questioned.
ANOTHER SOURCE THAT APPEARS TO BE FOR SAME PERSON: MR THOMAS SPEKE & COLONEL THOMAS SPEKE.
“Virginia, Colonial Abstracts, 1632-1810,” Westmoreland County, 1653-1657
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/48429/images/VACol...
p.36 “…4th Aprill 1655. The names of the Com’rs appointed by the Governor and Councell for the County of Westmorland in Virginia: Mr Thomas Speke, …. These appointed by the Governor and Councell to be of the Militia for the said County of Westmorland: Colonel Thomas Speke …. 20 July 1655 This Order was Recorded.”
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His wife, Ann, also throws me. Was this Ann Bieseley or Elizabeth Bieseley? Since Col Thomas Speake married Frances Gerard 1642/46 depending on the source, he would have still been married to Elizabeth. People are also confusing Thomas with Johannis/Johannes/
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