Easter Sunday First Generation Fixes - Question

Started by Hatte Blejer (absent until Nov 1) on Sunday, April 24, 2011
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4/24/2011 at 8:34 AM

Hancock Lee of Ditchley

Jacqueli and MEZ - do you want me to work on this profile? I can easily make him show up as the child of Ann Constable as well and also make any other data field, About Me, or sourcing fixes. Lizzie and Jacqueli do show up as managers on him by the way.

4/24/2011 at 8:37 AM

Captain William Lee, Esq. I added this profile to the project last night. It was not an MP (and is still not) and was not in the project. It does however have Lizzie, Jacqueli, and James as managers. It has far too few managers, so I assume this is one of the mangled profiles?

Do you want me / MEZ to do something with this profile? is this the lost William?

Private User
4/24/2011 at 8:41 AM

If you look in the "about" section of Hancock Lee he seems to have info that was in the original profile of william constable lee.
Hancock Lee of Ditchley

Private User
4/24/2011 at 8:45 AM

don't know what happened to the original copy of william constable lee's profile but this one is now in its place...

Captain William Lee, Esq.

it seems to be missing some of the original managers and the "about" info that was in the original william constable lee profile.

Private User
4/24/2011 at 8:47 AM

if you click on the link for william constable lee on the main page of the Lees of Virginia project it takes you to this profile instead...

Hancock Lee of Ditchley

Private User
4/24/2011 at 8:57 AM

Hatte, yes, take that one.

I am currently looking at child #2, Richard Henry Lee II, currently curated by KR Anderson. There is a small discrepancy between the date of death in data entry and notes on overview. Which is correct?

Data entry says March 12, 1714
Overview says Col. Richard Henry Lee II, Esq. (1647-1715) was a Colonel, planter, member of the Upper House and the King's Council.

Private User
4/24/2011 at 9:08 AM

Same profile, tree view, http://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000002238523936.

I will orphan the "do not merge" profiles descending from him.

There is an Arthur Fernley Lee as descendant and I don't see his name in the resource materials. Should I disconnect him, as well?

4/24/2011 at 9:12 AM

Wow, this is crazy Lizzie. How did someone mix up Hancock Lee and William Constable Lee?

I will take Hancock Lee to start with, since William Constable Lee has more issues. I'll take a look at the the About Me carefully.

I don't know what to do about managers being lost.

Private User
4/24/2011 at 9:14 AM

I just found Arthur at the very bottom of the overview notes on Richard II. If I am reading correctly, Arthur is the son of Richard II, not Richard I? Please confirm.

4/24/2011 at 9:23 AM

Jacqueli should weigh in. If you look at the first discussion in the project, I copied a copious genealogy she had posted. Perhaps Arthur is in there.

Private User
4/24/2011 at 9:34 AM

Hatte,
I don't know what to do about lost management either. We can add people back if they notice and complain, but that is unpleasant and creates other hurt feelings in need of soothing.

Rather than having Help Desk restore profiles, perhaps they can help us restore managers on profiles? I don't know if this is possible, just thinking out loud.

4/24/2011 at 9:42 AM

Maybe we could just make all the managers on Hancock Lee's profile also managers on William Constable Lee's profile? People probably wouldn't remember if they were managers on one and not the other.

Private User
4/24/2011 at 9:44 AM

Thanks, Hatte, I'll look for that discussion. As a late-comer to the project, I haven't found where everything is yet.

4/24/2011 at 9:45 AM

MEZ - I looked and it went upward from "the Immigrant" and not downward.

Jacqueli has notes however for all the members of the family, so just ask her.

Private User
4/24/2011 at 9:53 AM

@Lizzie (If you look in the "about" section of Hancock Lee he seems to have info that was in the original profile of william constable lee.)

THAT is EXACTLY what I was talking about last night...profiles were erroneously merged, overriding everything that may have been in the About Me, and when I went in to "fix" things yesterday morning, I got flack for "ruining" things.

From now on, I am going to LOG everything that is done in error that I catch (I make mistakes too), but this tree was full of people changing names after wrongfully merging profiles, KNOWING full-well they were wrongfully merged, and that the names become "NO NAME" in Revision-view to even prove otherwise.

http://s1091.photobucket.com/albums/i383/genierrors/April23Havoc/
This is my log of errors I "tried" to work through.

4/24/2011 at 9:55 AM

Private User
I would prefer it if you stayed away from this project and lineage for now - and please stop trying to justify your bad behavior.

4/24/2011 at 9:58 AM

Hatte Blejer (absent until Nov 1), Lizzie, MEZ,
highlight the profiles here and I will look them up and give you their specs. Thanks for the updates. I really appreciate the help out.

4/24/2011 at 9:59 AM

Oh - Happy Easter :)

Private User
4/24/2011 at 9:59 AM

I don't have a behavior problem, I just respond. I can stay out of the tree, per your request, but I -also- put profiles in and/or manage profiles that lead up to it, or around that area. Just saying.

4/24/2011 at 10:05 AM

Private User - please do leave the Lees of Virginia to the people dedicated to the project. Thank you in advance for complying.

There are 4 curators in this project so you can focus elsewhere -- theres' plenty to do -- and rest assured that between the Lee family experts and a high number of curators, it will be fine.

4/24/2011 at 10:07 AM

Captain William Lee, Esq.

Hancock Lee of Ditchley

Jacqueli Charlene Finley I was going to work on reattaching these two to both parents and getting their data fields and About Mes correct.

Private User
4/24/2011 at 10:10 AM

Col. Richard “the scholar” Lee, II
1. Confirm date of birth
2. Confirm Arthur is his son and not his brother. Arthur's profile is not MP yet but I can make one.

Private User
4/24/2011 at 10:30 AM

Ann Youell
1. I have put Anne Constable back as the mother.
2. There is a Lister showing as her husband. Is this a valid husband?Edmund Lister. He only shows in tree-view, not profile view. I can restore if he is valid or remove completely if not. Profile is managed by David Prins. We have great working relationship.

4/24/2011 at 11:02 AM

MEZ, here is Mister Lister's info - this morning was a 3 cup w/ sugar morning :) - now back to work !

Edward Lister - 2nd husband to Anne Constable (after Richard Lee I death)

Ancestors of Edward Lister

Generation No. 1

1. Edward Lister1,2, born 1608 in Northumberland, Virginia, USA3. He married (1) Anne Constable3,4 24 Sep 1666 in Virginia, USA5. She was born 1615 in London, England5, and died 06 Oct 1706 in Dividing Creek, Northumberland, Co, Va. She was the daughter of Francis Constable and Alice Owen.

More About Edward Lister:
Arrival: 1622, Virginia6
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

Notes for Anne Constable:
ca 1240

Ward, Francis, Wyatt Govenor, Virginia

More About Anne Constable:
Christening: 21 Feb 1622, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 06 Nov 2005

Endnotes

1. Ancestry.com, One World Tree (sm), Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., n.d., Online publication - Ancestry.com. OneWorldTree [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc.
2. Gale Research, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s, Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006, Online publication - Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006.Original data - Filby, P. William, ed.. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2006.Données d’origine : Filby, P. William, édit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2005.
3. Ancestry.com, One World Tree (sm), Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., n.d., Online publication - Ancestry.com. OneWorldTree [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc.
4. Heritage Consulting, Millennium File, Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2003, Online publication - Heritage Consulting. Millennium File [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2003.Original data - Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Heritage Consulting, Données d’origine : Consultation du patrimoine. Le Fichier du millénaire. Salt Lake City : Consultation du patrimoine, 19--.
5. Ancestry.com, One World Tree (sm), Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., n.d., Online publication - Ancestry.com. OneWorldTree [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc.
6. Gale Research, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s, Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006, Online publication - Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006.Original data - Filby, P. William, ed.. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2006.Données d’origine : Filby, P. William, édit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2005.

4/24/2011 at 11:06 AM

Hatte Blejer (absent until Nov 1), MEZ,

Richard Henry Lee II - Scholar info:

Ancestors of Richard Lee

Generation No. 1

1. Richard Lee, born 1647 in Paradise, Gloucester, Virginia, USA; died 12 Mar 1714 in Mt Pleasant, Westmoreland, Virginia, USA. He was the son of 2. Richard Lee Colonel and 3. Anne Constable. He married (1) Laetitia Corbin. She was born 1657 in Stratfordshire, England, and died 06 Oct 1706 in Mt Pleasant, Westmoreland, Virginia, USA. She was the daughter of Henry CORBIN third son and Alice Eltonhead.

More About Richard Lee:
Christening: 1658, school at Oxford, England
Record Change: 15 Jul 2003

More About Laetitia Corbin:
Burial: Mt Pleasant
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Generation No. 2

2. Richard Lee Colonel, born 22 Mar 1618 in Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, England; died 01 Mar 1664 in Virginia, Northumberland, Co, Va. He was the son of 4. John Lee or Lyes Clothier and 5. Jane HANCOCK. He married 3. Anne Constable 1641 in Jamestown, Virginia, USA.
3. Anne Constable, born 1615 in London, England; died 06 Oct 1706 in Dividing Creek, Northumberland, Co, Va. She was the daughter of 6. Francis Constable and 7. Alice Owen.

More About Richard Lee Colonel:
Burial: Jan 1665, will probate, London, , England
Christening: 1640, to, Va, from, Straford-Langston, Co Essex, England
Record Change: 29 Jun 2005

More About Anne Constable:
Christening: 21 Feb 1622, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 06 Nov 2005

Children of Richard Colonel and Anne Constable are:
i. John Lee, born 1642 in , , Virginia, Colony; died 1673 in not married, no children, Virginia, Colony.

More About John Lee:
Christening: returned to England
Record Change: 06 Jun 1999

ii. Francis Lee, born 1648 in , , Virginia, Colony; died 1714 in London, , , England; married Tamak or Tamar; born Abt. 1650 in of, Virginia, Colony; died 1694 in removed, to, London, England.

More About Francis Lee:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About Tamak or Tamar:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

iii. William Lee, born Abt. 1650 in Charles City, Co, Virginia, Colony; died Abt. 1696 in 1696/1703 estate suit, King and Queen, Va; married Alice Mrs FELTON; born Abt. 1644 in of, Richmond, Co, Va; died Abt. 1703 in St Stephen Parsh, King and Queen, Co, Va.

More About William Lee:
Christening: of, Surry, King and Queen, Co Va
Record Change: 29 Sep 2003

More About Alice Mrs FELTON:
Christening: widow, Thomas, FELTON, Charles City
Record Change: 16 Jun 2003

iv. Elizabeth Betsey Lee, born 1653 in , , Virginia, Colony; died 1693 in Wicomico, Northumberland, Virginia, USA; married LEONARD Howson; born Abt. 1652 in of, Virginia, Colony.

More About Elizabeth Betsey Lee:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About LEONARD Howson:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

v. Anne Lee, born 1653 in twins, , Virginia, Colony; died 1701 in Westmoreland, Virginia, USA; married Thomas Youell; born Abt. 1650 in of, Virginia, Colony.

More About Anne Lee:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About Thomas Youell:
Christening: returned to England
Record Change: 06 Nov 2005

vi. Charles Lee, born 21 May 1656 in Cobbs Hall, Northampton, Virginia, Colony; died 17 Dec 1701 in of, Cobbs Hill, Northampton, Va; married Elizabeth Metstand MEDSTAND 1676 in Cobbs Hall, Northampton, Virginia, USA; born Abt. 1657 in dau, Thomas, Northampton, Va; died Aft. 13 Jul 1700 in Cobbs Hill, Northampton, Va.

More About Charles Lee:
Burial: 1701, will probate, Northampton, County, Va
Christening: Cobbs Hill, line
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About Elizabeth Metstand MEDSTAND:
Record Change: 06 Jun 2003

vii. Hancock Lee, born 1645 in Northumberland, Virginia, USA; died 1714 in Isle Wight, Virginia, USA; married (1) Mary Kendall; born 1651 in of, Northumberland, Co, Va; died 24 Dec 1694 in Ditchley, Northumberland, Co, Va age 33; married (2) Sarah ALLERTON; born Abt. 1669 in of, Northumberland, Co, Va; died in Ditchley, Northumberland, Co, Va; married (3) Mary Kimball; born Abt. 1652 in Prince George, Virginia, USA; died 08 Jan 1734 in Charles City, Virginia, USA; married (4) Mary Kimball 1670 in Prince George, Virginia, USA; born Abt. 1652 in Prince George, Virginia, USA; died 08 Jan 1734 in Charles City, Virginia, USA.

More About Hancock Lee:
Christening: of, Ditchley, Northampton, Va
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

1 viii. Richard Lee, born 1647 in Paradise, Gloucester, Virginia, USA; died 12 Mar 1714 in Mt Pleasant, Westmoreland, Virginia, USA; married Laetitia Corbin.

Generation No. 3

4. John Lee or Lyes Clothier, born Abt. 1588 in of, Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, Salop, England; died in Worcester, Worcestershire. He was the son of 8. Richard Lee and 9. Elizabeth BENDEY. He married 5. Jane HANCOCK.
5. Jane HANCOCK, born Abt. 1596 in Worcester, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England. She was the daughter of 10. Edward HANCOCK and 11. Alice JEFFRIES.

More About John Lee or Lyes Clothier:
Burial: 23 Feb 1630, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England
Record Change: 09 Jan 2002

More About Jane HANCOCK:
Burial: 24 Feb 1639, Worcester, St Alban's parish, Worcestershire, England
Christening: also listed as of Twining.
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

Children of John Lee or Lyes and Jane HANCOCK are:
i. John Lee or Lyes, born in Worcester, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England.

More About John Lee or Lyes:
Christening: 19 Sep 1616, Saint Martin, Worcester
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

ii. Edward Lee or Lyes, born in Worcester, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England; died 21 Apr 1624 in Saint Martin, Worcester.

More About Edward Lee or Lyes:
Christening: 30 Aug 1620, Saint Martin, Worcester
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

2 iii. Richard Lee Colonel, born 22 Mar 1618 in Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, England; died 01 Mar 1664 in Virginia, Northumberland, Co, Va; married Anne Constable 1641 in Jamestown, Virginia, USA.
iv. Thomas Lee or Lyes, born 22 Mar 1622 in Worcester, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England.

More About Thomas Lee or Lyes:
Christening: 29 May 1622, Saint Martin, Worcester
Record Change: 27 Jul 2001

6. Francis Constable, born Abt. 1590 in England; died 01 Aug 1647 in London, plague. He was the son of 12. Robert Constable and 13. Margery Barker. He married 7. Alice Owen.
7. Alice Owen, born Abt. 1595 in London, England; died 1647 in London, Plague.

More About Francis Constable:
Burial: 02 Aug 1647, St. Margaret, Westminster
Christening: 14 May 1592, Datchet, co. Bucks
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About Alice Owen:
Burial: 04 Aug 1647, St. Margaret, Westminster
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

Child of Francis Constable is:

Children of Francis Constable and Alice Owen are:
3 i. Anne Constable, born 1615 in London, England; died 06 Oct 1706 in Dividing Creek, Northumberland, Co, Va; married (1) Richard Lee Colonel 1641 in Jamestown, Virginia, USA; married (2) Edward Lister 24 Sep 1666 in Virginia, USA.
ii. Sarah Constable

More About Sarah Constable:
Christening: 16 Mar 1617, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

iii. Robert I Constable

More About Robert I Constable:
Burial: 28 Aug 1647, St. Margaret, Westminster
Christening: 24 Aug 1626, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

iv. Rachael I Constable, died Bef. 1630.

More About Rachael I Constable:
Christening: 24 Sep 1624, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

v. Alice I Constable, died Bef. 1825.

More About Alice I Constable:
Christening: 24 Sep 1615, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

vi. Joan Constable

More About Joan Constable:
Christening: 11 Sep 1618, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

vii. Mary Constable

More About Mary Constable:
Christening: 21 Oct 1619, St. Andrew, Enfield, Co. Middlesex
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

viii. Elizabeth Constable

More About Elizabeth Constable:
Christening: 24 Oct 1620, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

ix. Margaret Constable

More About Margaret Constable:
Christening: 26 Jun 1623, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

x. Simeon Constable

More About Simeon Constable:
Burial: 29 Nov 1627, St. Andrew Undershaft, London
Christening: 14 Aug 1625, Datchet, co. Bucks
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

xi. Roger Constable

More About Roger Constable:
Burial: 10 Sep 1626, St. Andrew Undershaft, London
Christening: 24 Aug 1626, St. Andrew Undershaft, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

xii. Frances Constable

More About Frances Constable:
Christening: St. Andrew Undershaft, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

xiii. Rachel II Constable

More About Rachel II Constable:
Christening: 18 Jul 1630, St. Andrew Undershaft, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

Generation No. 4

8. Richard Lee, born 1564 in of, Cocton, Shropshire, England; died 1621 in of, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England. He was the son of John Lee and Joyce or Jocota ROMNEY. He married 9. Elizabeth BENDEY.
9. Elizabeth BENDEY, born Abt. 1566 in of, Cocton, , England.

More About Richard Lee:
Christening: 06 Oct 1564, of, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About Elizabeth BENDEY:
Christening: of, Nordley Regis, , England
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Children of Richard Lee and Elizabeth BENDEY are:
4 i. John Lee or Lyes Clothier, born Abt. 1588 in of, Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, Salop, England; died in Worcester, Worcestershire; married Jane HANCOCK.
ii. Richard Lee, born Abt. 1594 in of, Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, Salop, England; married Alice TURNOR; born Abt. 1600 in of Droitwich, Worcestershire, England.

More About Richard Lee:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Alice TURNOR:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

10. Edward HANCOCK, died 1621 in will 1621. He married 11. Alice JEFFRIES.
11. Alice JEFFRIES, born Abt. 1560 in of Twining.

More About Edward HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Alice JEFFRIES:
Record Change: 05 Sep 2006

Children of Edward HANCOCK and Alice JEFFRIES are:
i. Edward HANCOCK, born Abt. 1578 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England.

More About Edward HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

ii. Richard HANCOCK, born Abt. 1580 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England; married Susana; born Abt. 1630 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England.

More About Richard HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Susana:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

iii. John HANCOCK, born Abt. 1582 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England; married Margaret BEST; born Abt. 1588 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England.

More About John HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Margaret BEST:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

iv. Elizabeth HANCOCK, born Abt. 1584 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England; died Bef. 1666; married Rowland BEST; born Abt. 1580 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England.

More About Elizabeth HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Rowland BEST:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

v. Thomas HANCOCK, born Abt. 1587 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England; married PAINTING.

More About Thomas HANCOCK:
Christening: clothier
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About PAINTING:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

vi. Mary HANCOCK, born Abt. 1591 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England; married Thomas SAVAGE; born Abt. 1600 in Wocester Worcestershire, England.

More About Mary HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Thomas SAVAGE:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

vii. William HANCOCK, born Abt. 1593 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England; died 1675 in will Breedsdon, Norton; married (1) Sarah BONAMY; married (2) Catherine MAYLE; born Abt. 1600 in Wocester Worcestershire, England.

More About William HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Sarah BONAMY:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

5 viii. Jane HANCOCK, born Abt. 1596 in Worcester, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England; married (1) John Lee or Lyes Clothier; married (2) John MANNING or MANINGE.

12. Robert Constable, born 1565 in Datchet, Buckinghamshire, England. He married 13. Margery Barker 1590.
13. Margery Barker, born 1570 in Datchet, Buckinghamshire, England; died in England. She was the daughter of Christopher Barker.

More About Robert Constable:
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

More About Margery Barker:
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

Children of Robert Constable and Margery Barker are:
6 i. Francis Constable, born Abt. 1590 in England; died 01 Aug 1647 in London, plague; married (2) Alice Owen.

4/24/2011 at 11:13 AM

Hatte Blejer (absent until Nov 1) and MEZ:

This is Anne Lee daughter of Richard Lee I and Anne Constables info (so Mister Lister is attached wrongly :))

Ancestors of Anne Lee

Generation No. 1

1. Anne Lee1, born 1653 in twins, , Virginia, Colony; died 1701 in Westmoreland, Virginia, USA1. She was the daughter of 2. Richard Lee Colonel and 3. Anne Constable. She married (1) Thomas Youell. He was born Abt. 1650 in of, Virginia, Colony.

Notes for Anne Lee:
June 1673 Release of estate of father, "Anne Youdell wife of Thomas Youdell daughter of Richard Deceased, late of Stratford-Langton".

More About Anne Lee:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About Thomas Youell:
Christening: returned to England
Record Change: 06 Nov 2005

Generation No. 2

2. Richard Lee Colonel, born 22 Mar 1618 in Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, England; died 01 Mar 1664 in Virginia, Northumberland, Co, Va. He was the son of 4. John Lee or Lyes Clothier and 5. Jane HANCOCK. He married 3. Anne Constable 1641 in Jamestown, Virginia, USA1.
3. Anne Constable1,2, born 1615 in London, England3; died 06 Oct 1706 in Dividing Creek, Northumberland, Co, Va. She was the daughter of 6. Francis Constable and 7. Alice Owen.

Notes for Richard Lee Colonel:
deposition May 1641 Norfolk Co gives age as 32, hence born 1608/9

Depositoin London 1654 Admiralty Court. Richard Lee Gentleman age 34 or thereabouts deposes of things seen on York River in Virgina the prior January. (pub 1984) hence born 1618

Coton Hall lies on main road between Shrewsbury and Brostol. Along that road going south you find Coton Hall, then Worcester, then Twining. Starting from the south, Twining in Worcestershire is about 12 miles north of Worcester, and it is another 20 miles from Worcester to Coton Hall.

Richard baptized 22 march 1617/1618 ST Martin's Worcester England

Will says"of Virginia, late of Stratford-Langton in the County of Essex"
this was part of the Abby of Stratford-Langthorne founded 1135 disbanded 1539 and Westsham Mannor or Parish was divided into four parts one of which was Stratford-Langton, or one ward of the parish/mannor.
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Subj:Re: Lee
Date:11/6/2005 9:08:33 AM Central Standard Time
From: dnca2@earthlink.net Reply-to: dnca2@earthlink.net To: Jhlawr@wmconnect.com (Jhlawr@wmconnect.com)
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New Research on the Wraysbury Deeds
by Alan Nicholls.
In 1999 I gave a presentation to the Lee Society of Virginia at their AGM concerning the English ancestry of Colonel Richard Lee, the founder of the Virginia Lee family. This presentation was placed on my webpage on 24th May 1999.
In that presentation I included evidence that Colonel Richard Lee had signed a series of three indentures relating to a purchase by John Lee of Coton of a property at Wraysbury in Buckinghamshire, England in 1652. Colonel Richard's signature on these deeds had been used by all previous researchers, with other evidence, to show a direct connection between the Lee family of Virginia and the Coton Lee family of Alveley, Shropshire. However since the 1999 presentation my research has revealed evidence using only original contemporary documents that these indentures were in fact signed by Richard Lee, fishmonger, son of Lancelot Lee of Coton. This Richard was the apprentice of John Lee, fishmonger, citizen of London and gentleman. I have shown previously that this John Lee (1600-1682), son of Thomas Lee of Coton (1560-1620) was mistakenly identified as a saddler by all earlier researchers.
As I reported in the 1999 presentation the signatures on the Wraysbury deeds seemed to match extremely well with those few other original signatures of Colonel Richard Lee that I had found. He signed himself Rich: Lee in all cases and I found these signatures the most persuasive evidence to authenticate his claim to a Coton ancestry. However this new evidence has overturned those conclusions. The new research is detailed below.
The research undertaken since the 1999 presentation has not found the English ancestor of Colonel Richard Lee but it is challenging the fundamental assumptions made by earlier researchers. I am continuing to follow my lines of research and hopefully will carry it through to a successful conclusion. I will post articles on my webpage as I complete each phase of the research. As with all research of this nature there are gains and losses but I view each reversal with a positive attitude that will propel me forward with new knowledge to more gains and, hopefully, less losses.
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Jim,
I have not done English research on Richard and Henry Lee of York. They were obviously related, probably brothers. Since Richard was born c. 1619, and appears to have been the older, it would appear that Henry was born c. 1620. Since his first child was b. 1645, this fits well.
There were several Richard Lees and several Henry Lees on the early emigration records. To my knowledge, no one has proven whence they came or which county they settled in.
The first problem in research is that there is no proof that Richard Lee of York was the same person as Col. Richard.
The research that has been done has been aimed at the origin of Col. Richard Lee. Two of the most recognized articles are: Article by Wm. Thorndale, National Genealogical Society Qtrly, Dec 1988
Article by Ludwell Lee Montague, Va. Magazine, Jan. 1954.
The descendants of Col. Richard have not enthusiastically accepted any of the research done. One of them has recently engaged an English researcher, Alan Nicholls. Nicholls has a web page which you can Google up.
Hope this helps. Will send another message on the Henry Lee descendants.
Cary Adams
***************my replyThis one got settled very well William and Mary Quarterly about 25 yrs ago sorry exact ref not in hand -it took some doing by the way very good work.. but they found Col. Richard baptized 22 march 1617/1618 ST Martin's Worcester England, d 1 MArch 1664 Northumberland Co Va but will probate London andhis papa was John /Lee or Lyes/ Clothier b 1588 of, Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, Salop, England burried 23 Feb 1629/1630 St Martin parish, Worcestershire, Englandwife Jane Hancock (hence all the Hancocks in his line).Grandfather Col Richard was RIchard Lee 1564-1621 md Elizabeth BentleyGGfather John Lee 1528 - will 14 May 1605 will proven, Shropshire, Englandburried Chesham, Buckinghamshire, , England wife Joyce or Jocota /ROMNEY/ b abt 1533 died 4 Dec 1609 Alveley Parish, Shropshire, England (burr same place)and finally GGG was Humphrey 1506 wife Katherine /Blount/ and this is the common link to Henry of York.They were cousins to be precise Henry Jr 1627 was 3rd cousin to Col Richard.Jim Lawler
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More About Richard Lee Colonel:
Burial: Jan 1665, will probate, London, , England
Christening: 1640, to, Va, from, Straford-Langston, Co Essex, England
Record Change: 29 Jun 2005

Notes for Anne Constable:
ca 1240

Ward, Francis, Wyatt Govenor, Virginia

More About Anne Constable:
Christening: 21 Feb 1622, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 06 Nov 2005

Children of Richard Colonel and Anne Constable are:
i. John Lee3, born 1642 in , , Virginia, Colony; died 1673 in not married, no children, Virginia, Colony.

More About John Lee:
Christening: returned to England
Record Change: 06 Jun 1999

ii. Francis Lee, born 1648 in , , Virginia, Colony; died 1714 in London, , , England; married Tamak or Tamar; born Abt. 1650 in of, Virginia, Colony; died 1694 in removed, to, London, England.

Notes for Francis Lee:
Subj:Alice Felton
Date:10/23/2006 4:19:29 PM Central Daylight Time
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Today I am tracking Alice Felton, I have found nothing on her in Virginia, and if she had married Thomas Felton she would have been 7 years old.
From what I have found below she must have came to Virginia as a servant met William Lee (the rogue that he was) and married him. Still found nothing on marriage though.
I have been doing census on Williams and Richards (Tax list) (census)
WM would have to be in Maryland; that is where his father left him a home and land. I found Col Richard Lees will he made in England when he and his family were in their home there, he went to sell all and give up England for good. He had made many trips back and forth over the years and owned 1/8 of 3 ships for transporting goods back and forth and people.
Francis Lee went back to England lived, raised his family and died there in 1714.
Col Lee left the ownership of the 3 ships to (Elizabeth-Mary-& Susan 1/8th eh.) to Francis and if he dies first it goes to Charles and the two sisters, Elizabeth and Ann.
Jim, how do I go about getting Edmond Jennings Lees book?
Did you find anything in there on Alice?
Talk to you two later
Ellie

More About Francis Lee:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About Tamak or Tamar:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

iii. William Lee3,3, born Abt. 1650 in Charles City, Co, Virginia, Colony; died Abt. 1696 in 1696/1703 estate suit, King and Queen, Va; married Alice Mrs FELTON; born Abt. 1644 in of, Richmond, Co, Va; died Abt. 1703 in St Stephen Parsh, King and Queen, Co, Va.

Notes for William Lee:
3. William Lee b. 1678 or 1682, Northampton, Northumberland Co, VA
m. Dorothy Taylor, ca 1703, Westmoreland Co, VA d/o Thomas Taylor & Elizabeth Harwood b. 1681, Surry,
King and Queen Co, VA
Information on Dorothy Taylor comes from "Log Cabins to White House" by Brewer. 13 Apr 1745

Dorothy was witness to will of Henry Williams in Richmond Co.,VA. signed as Dorothy Croucher. Dorothy and her brother Thomas were administrators of her husband William Lee's estate. She was left wearing apparel in her mother's will. "Dorothy to have my Coyas" d. 1717, Richmond Co, VA (Source: Amelia Co. Order Book 7, p. 226, Letters of Administration of Estate of William Lee to Dorothy Lee, relict of William Lee on 12/4/1717.).

Documentation from "Log Cabins to White House" by Brewer. On page 275 "On 19 Jan 1668 William and wife Alice acknowledged debt of 250 acres of land to William Heath.
On 5 Sep 1668 William and wife Alice sold their plantation to Thomas Adams (Surry Co. records p.54).

From "Log Cabin" book on p.276 it gives William Lee( who married Dorothy Taylor) as one of his children. On p.273, Richard Henry Lee and Anna Constable are given as the parents of William (husband of Alice) but other sources state that Richard Lee's son William did not marry. Other sources say he married and had a daughter Mary who married a Heath and that he left his estate to her -- which was contested by his brother and returned to the Lee family.

There is a William Lee and Mary Lee, witnesses in Richard Jesper's will, dated 1698 in North Farnham Parish, VA. Need to identify them. Dorothy and brother Thomas Taylor were administrators of his estate. They left to William's grandchildren (children of Wm.3rd) the legacy left to him by his grandmother Elizabeth Taylor. Thomas Hanks received 9 lbs 11 shillings 8 pence; Joseph Hanks 2 lbs2 shillings 6 pence; Richard Lee 4 shillings; none was listed for John Lee who had probably died young.

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alt version below probable error confused
ID: I16208 Name: William COLONEL Lee Leigh
Sex: M Birth: 1654 in Surry County, , Virginia
Death: 14 JUL 1703Father: William Lee Leigh b: ABT 1588 in England Mother: Catherine b: ABT 1592Marriage 1 Mary Green b: ABT 1659 in King & Queen County, VA
Married: 1675 in King & Queen County, VA
Children
John CAPTAIN Lee Leigh b: 1677 in Of Leigh Hall, , Cheshire, England
William Lee Leigh b: 1682 in New Kent County, VA
Sources:

Title: Family Group Record FamilySearchØ Ancestral File v4.19

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: William Lee Leigh 1 Sex: M Birth: ABT 1588 in England Death: 1653 in , James, VirginiaMarriage 1 Mary Dawkes b: ABT 1578 in < , Charles City County, Virginia>
Marriage 2 Catherine b: ABT 1592
Children
William COLONEL Lee Leigh b: 1654 in Surry County, , Virginia
Sources:

Title: Family Group Record FamilySearchØ Ancestral File v4.19

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Edmund Jennings Lee had not found any record of what happened to one son William Lee and blew it off finally saying he appears to have died young.
Weelllll sort of.
He did die earlier, 1694-5, than other siblings, leaving a 18 year old daughter and three younger minor sons. The daughter Mary had married William Heath at age 15 had two sons, Thomas and Samuel the last being born after his father died. She re married to Bartholomew Schriever who is the villain of this story. He was of age so grabbed the estate and paid out yearly a gentlemans living to the three boys; Wm, John, and Richard. What he paid was far less than the estate could manage; and they deserved more; but it was legally large enough that they could not sue their guardian until ALL of them were of age. The instant the youngest turned 21 they did sue.
BUT
Not in probate court but common pleas court to recover their inheritance.
And not in the original county (Westmoreland) but the county had been split and then re-split in the mean time (at this time it was Surry Co) and worse the judge (a VIP ) did not travel to them he stayed put and they had to come to him in King and Queen County. (This was a MAJOR estate -and why they had a superior judge in a higher court- in todays terms it would be multi millionaire stuff).
AND
It was 7-8 years out of timeŒ7 -8 years later than expected.
Wrong place, wrong time, wrong court, and why E J Lee missed it.
Bart and Mary got her furniture and what money he had sequestered (the court knew he had milked estate, said so, but did not bother to try to find where he had squirreled money away--{Bermuda}), just gave Mary HER furniture, and kicked them off land and divided it 3 ways each boy getting roughly 1/3. Bart packed up in high dudgeon and went back to England (assume they stopped at Bermuda where $$ were) - and lived life of rich ex colonial gentleman.

OK first problem solved. This I got from two separate books /people who had done work independently, and I cross-checked just to be sure. (A Weavin' and Log Cabin to White House
Next problem
William (ii) son Wm (i) and grandson of Co Richard died 1717 (about 13 years after court bruhoo); leaving 4 sons. And I will stick to our line his son Charles b 1706 moved to new land at North Farnham Parish, Richmond Co., Va.
Charles moves again dies 1799 at-really near just out of town- Leesburg, Cumberland Co., Va. leaving cash to a son William (others got land) and just down the road, land adjoining Charles is a William Lee that the previous genealogists had assumed was his son.
BooBoo!
It was a reasonable assumption. Just wrong. Charles died in 1799 Cumberland Co Va and had a son William. There is a William Lee (md Ave Noel) whose land adjoins Charles land so they assume he is the son. Unfortunately they happened to buy adjoining lands at about the same time and they were cousins, but unwarranted assumption as to being his son.
Then I found the full name of James Garnett Early Lee b. 23 feb 1777 known as Garnett Lee usually, AND known to be son of William and Ave Noel and that triggered my memory that James Lee had md Mary Clark Garnett and I cross connected Wm and Ave to James Lee and Mary Garnett who also had known son William but unknown what happened to him if we connect Wm and Ave to Charles. To add to the surety I was right, Wm and Ave moved about 1788 to Evington Road Bedford Co Va. just a bit down the road from James and Mary Garnett -- (Ah Ha!)----- so this time making the assumption that the William who was close to James was his son works. James died by the way 1791 Probate Bedford Co Va.
With that I was able to disconnect he wrong William (md Ave) and get him to correct papa- and so was left connecting MY William (1738-1808) to Charles. Reason for cash was my William had gone on to Hardy Co Va. (now West Va) at the same time, abt 1760, his father Charles had moved from Richmond Co where he was born (The residual of the original estate was now in Surry Co.-but had been split up so much the land left to Charles was too small to make him well off - or as well off as he wished) then on to Leesburgh in Cumberland Co and so our William had no use for land- he had his own- but hundreds of miles away. SO cash.
Oh me oh my long story. I also jumped 4 years work in getting all of the above. I followed Loads of dead ends.

More About William Lee:
Christening: of, Surry, King and Queen, Co Va
Record Change: 29 Sep 2003

Notes for Alice Mrs FELTON:
Subj:Alice Felton
Date:10/23/2006 4:19:29 PM Central Daylight Time
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Today I am tracking Alice Felton, I have found nothing on her in Virginia, and if she had married Thomas Felton she would have been 7 years old.
From what I have found below she must have came to Virginia as a servant met William Lee (the rogue that he was) and married him. Still found nothing on marriage though.
I have been doing census on Williams and Richards (Tax list) (census)
WM would have to be in Maryland; that is where his father left him a home and land. I found Col Richard Lees will he made in England when he and his family were in their home there, he went to sell all and give up England for good. He had made many trips back and forth over the years and owned 1/8 of 3 ships for transporting goods back and forth and people.
Francis Lee went back to England lived, raised his family and died there in 1714.
Col Lee left the ownership of the 3 ships to (Elizabeth-Mary-& Susan 1/8th eh.) to Francis and if he dies first it goes to Charles and the two sisters, Elizabeth and Ann.
Jim, how do I go about getting Edmond Jennings Lees book?
Did you find anything in there on Alice?
Talk to you two later
Ellie

More About Alice Mrs FELTON:
Christening: widow, Thomas, FELTON, Charles City
Record Change: 16 Jun 2003

iv. Elizabeth Betsey Lee, born 1653 in , , Virginia, Colony; died 1693 in Wicomico, Northumberland, Virginia, USA3; married LEONARD Howson; born Abt. 1652 in of, Virginia, Colony.

More About Elizabeth Betsey Lee:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About LEONARD Howson:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

1 v. Anne Lee, born 1653 in twins, , Virginia, Colony; died 1701 in Westmoreland, Virginia, USA; married Thomas Youell.
vi. Charles Lee4,5,5, born 21 May 1656 in Cobbs Hall, Northampton, Virginia, Colony; died 17 Dec 1701 in of, Cobbs Hill, Northampton, Va; married Elizabeth Metstand MEDSTAND 1676 in Cobbs Hall, Northampton, Virginia, USA5; born Abt. 1657 in dau, Thomas, Northampton, Va; died Aft. 13 Jul 1700 in Cobbs Hill, Northampton, Va.

More About Charles Lee:
Burial: 1701, will probate, Northampton, County, Va
Christening: Cobbs Hill, line
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About Elizabeth Metstand MEDSTAND:
Record Change: 06 Jun 2003

vii. Hancock Lee6,7,7, born 1645 in Northumberland, Virginia, USA7,7; died 1714 in Isle Wight, Virginia, USA7,7; married (1) Mary Kendall; born 1651 in of, Northumberland, Co, Va; died 24 Dec 1694 in Ditchley, Northumberland, Co, Va age 33; married (2) Sarah ALLERTON; born Abt. 1669 in of, Northumberland, Co, Va; died in Ditchley, Northumberland, Co, Va; married (3) Mary Kimball; born Abt. 1652 in Prince George, Virginia, USA7,7; died 08 Jan 1734 in Charles City, Virginia, USA7,7; married (4) Mary Kimball 1670 in Prince George, Virginia, USA7; born Abt. 1652 in Prince George, Virginia, USA7,7; died 08 Jan 1734 in Charles City, Virginia, USA7,7.

Notes for Hancock Lee:

Subj:Hancock
Date:9/28/2003 8:19:20 PM Central Standard Time
From: dalell1@earthlink.net (Eleanor Prieskorn) To: Jhlawr@wmconnect.com

Hi Jim, I think you missunderstood what I sent on Hancock.
That is why I sent that mess on Hancock Lee Jr, I don't have them in my records, I found them while looking for Richard Lee and Margaret Reno.
But the other kids there, where do they go? to the next Hancock? & Beale ? 3ed HANCOCK'S WIFE

MY records with Hancock Lee Jr (if you will) is Twin to Elizabeth both b 1709 he m Mary Willis January 23, 1733
8 ch. Ann, Mary, George Henry, John, Hancock b Apr 7, 1740 (brother John is his twin) Sarah, Lucinda, Willis.( Pulled some paper records)
Here is where you can help me clear a few things, if you will.
The 2ed Mary Willis, who was her parents ? a brother to the 1ST Mary Willis?
John Hancock Lee that she m, who was his parents?
OK-- HERE IS WHAT I HAVE;
I have William C. Lee b 1650 m ANN- But Paul C. Nagel the researcher of Lee's of VA. said he could not find any proof that William ever married. he d in 1696 at the age of almost 46 --He left his land and estate to Mary Heath. in 1707 Richard found a way to retreave the Virginia estate's . In his fathers" will " it stated that the property left to his sons for life. {at the end of life the land reverts to the living son's. SON OF RICHARD LEE & ANN CONSTABLE
Hancock, the brother to this {ABOVE} William had four children by Mary Kendall and later 4 children by Sarah Elizabeth Allerton.
The 4 children by his first wife (on paper) who I think is the line to our Richard.
1- William b Bet 1678-1682 (Through this William) m 1703 Dorothy Taylor
Death inventory, Feb. 5th 1717/18 in Wills of Richmond County VA.
on OB 7 based on oath of Dorothy Lee 8 children listed,
Rebecca, ONE OF THIER DAU. OB (order book) 10, page 54 punished for having bastard child.
From them;
William Jr Lee b May 14, 1704 d 1764 {I think this william is the one that m Ann, 2ed had two or three ch,
Mary 12 years his SR.} Bruce Thornton. she m 1 at age 17, first ch BORN 1710-last CHILD Roland 1721 her husband Mark d 1721( All Thornton's)
SHE m--2 William Lee Jr, Dec 16, 1728 VA. her age then 36 years, and William 24
children by one or both wife's
William b 1730 1738-----------------------------------Mary's
Anne Nancy "Nanny" b 1728-1730--------------Marys
Richard b ??-------------------------------------------Marys
Sarah/Sary Sally b ??------------------------------Mary's
Elizabeth (Betty) b 1723-1746----------------- Mary's
Peter b Jan 30, 1749/50 MARY'S age here 57--------------------------------------------Ann's? CHILD
Mark b abt 1752 ---- she would be age (Mary) 60--------------------------------- " ?ANN'S CHILD ?
John b Dec 22, 1757---- if Mary was mother her age at this birth 65-------Ann's? CHILD
Mary's death was thought to be aft 1752--
2ed WIFE COULD BE ANN
IF MARY DIED IN 1752 WILLIAM WOULD HAVE BEEN YOUNG ENOUGH TO REMARRY, AGE 48--
AND STILL BE FATHER TO PETER, MARK, JOHN.
MARY B THORNTON'S BIRTH FROM WFT VOL 27, GROUP # 721
HER MARRIAGE DATE FROM WFT VOL 24, GROUP# 620
William Jr and Mary's son
William b 1730-1738 VA m Catherine "Katy"Graves
that is our Richard's parents.
NOW THIS IS HOW I HAVE THE LINE TO CONNECT SO FAR, THIS IS WHY I HAVE SO MUCH INFO ON WILLIAM'S AND RICHARD'S TO FILL IN THE BLANKS FOR SURE.
WE COULD BE CONNECTRD THROUGH 2 OTHER RICHARDS, IF NOT THEN THIS HAS TO BE THE LINE.
AND BOTH RICHARD'S ARE STILL IN THIS LINE.
2--Richard b Jan 18, 1691 d 1740 (found no wife here) this is where I thought was the Richard that m Margaret Reno/Runo
there would be 34 years diffrence in there age, or if he had a son Richard would be the right age. (I have no other info on him that I can put my hands on at this time. this is one of the reasons I pull all info on Richard's.(one anyway)
3--Anna b Jan 5 1681/81
4-Henry b 1676 d bef. 1706
I DONT THINK WE CONNECT TO THE SARAH E ALLERTON, JUST 1/2 SIB'S TO ISAAC, JOHN, ELIZABETH & HANCOCK II

More About Hancock Lee:
Christening: of, Ditchley, Northampton, Va
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

viii. Richard Lee7, born 1647 in Paradise, Gloucester, Virginia, USA7; died 12 Mar 1714 in Mt Pleasant, Westmoreland, Virginia, USA7; married Laetitia Corbin; born 1657 in Stratfordshire, England7; died 06 Oct 1706 in Mt Pleasant, Westmoreland, Virginia, USA7.

Notes for Richard Lee:
Richard II LEE
Sex: M
Birth: 1646 in Strafford-on-Avon, Essex, England
Death: 12 Mar 1713 in Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co., VA
Title: Sir Event: Royal Title Unknown Knight of the Order of the GarterFather: Richard Henry LEE b: 1591 in St. Martin, Worcestershire, England Mother: Anne Constable OWEN b: 1615 in London, EnglandMarriage 1 Letitia CORBIN b: 1657 in Stratfordshire, England
Married: 1674 in Westmorland Co., VA
Children
Richard LEE b: 1678
John LEE b: 1677
Phillip LEE b: 1681
Francis LEE b: 1682
Ann LEE b: 1683 in Machodoc, Westmoreland Co., VA
Henry LEE b: 16 May 1686 in Westmoreland Co., VA
Thomas LEE b: 1690
Arthur Ferney LEE b 1693

More About Richard Lee:
Christening: 1658, school at Oxford, England
Record Change: 15 Jul 2003

More About Laetitia Corbin:
Burial: Mt Pleasant
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Generation No. 3

4. John Lee or Lyes Clothier, born Abt. 1588 in of, Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, Salop, England; died in Worcester, Worcestershire. He was the son of 8. Richard Lee and 9. Elizabeth BENDEY. He married 5. Jane HANCOCK.
5. Jane HANCOCK, born Abt. 1596 in Worcester, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England. She was the daughter of 10. Edward HANCOCK and 11. Alice JEFFRIES.

More About John Lee or Lyes Clothier:
Burial: 23 Feb 1630, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England
Record Change: 09 Jan 2002

Notes for Jane HANCOCK:
2 sep 1630 Jane Lee widow fo John Lee Dec St MArtin's Parish city of Worcestger administration with bond for estate fo John Deceased, security Thomas HANCOCK HANCOCKE.
1632 widow Jame md Hohn Maninge, Worcester, St Martin's
Jane Manning made will 1635, names eldest son John, Richard,, with youngest son Thomas. child Edward deceased added from Parish Baptismal records

More About Jane HANCOCK:
Burial: 24 Feb 1639, Worcester, St Alban's parish, Worcestershire, England
Christening: also listed as of Twining.
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

Children of John Lee or Lyes and Jane HANCOCK are:
i. John Lee or Lyes, born in Worcester, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England.

More About John Lee or Lyes:
Christening: 19 Sep 1616, Saint Martin, Worcester
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

ii. Edward Lee or Lyes, born in Worcester, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England; died 21 Apr 1624 in Saint Martin, Worcester.

More About Edward Lee or Lyes:
Christening: 30 Aug 1620, Saint Martin, Worcester
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

2 iii. Richard Lee Colonel, born 22 Mar 1618 in Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, England; died 01 Mar 1664 in Virginia, Northumberland, Co, Va; married Anne Constable 1641 in Jamestown, Virginia, USA.
iv. Thomas Lee or Lyes, born 22 Mar 1622 in Worcester, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England.

More About Thomas Lee or Lyes:
Christening: 29 May 1622, Saint Martin, Worcester
Record Change: 27 Jul 2001

6. Francis Constable7, born Abt. 1590 in England; died 01 Aug 1647 in London, plague. He was the son of 12. Robert Constable and 13. Margery Barker. He married 7. Alice Owen.
7. Alice Owen, born Abt. 1595 in London, England7; died 1647 in London, Plague.

Notes for Francis Constable:
Francis Constable was baptized at Datchet, co. Bucks 14 May 1592 the son of Robert and Margery (Barker) Constable and grandson on the maternal side of Christopher Barker, printer to Queen Elizabeth I. His career as a bookseller and printer is summarized in "A Dictionary of the Booksellers and Printers who were at work in England from 1641 to 1667", by Henry R. Plomer:- "Francis Constable,bookseller in London and Westminster firstly at the (sign of) the White Lion, Paul's Churchyard, 1616-24; then in St Paul's Church Yard at the sign of the Crane, 1631; then under St Martin's Church in Ludgate, 1637; then at King Street, Westminster at the sign of the Goat, 1640; then at Westminster Hall,1640.He took up his freedom July 2nd 1614.His first registered publication was "Hymens Triumphes, entered on January 13th.1614/15.He published large numbers of plays,in which he was associated for some years with Humphrey Moseley.It is probable that he rented a stall in Westminster Hall very much earlier than 1640 but that is the first appearance of the Hall in the imprint of any book."

will probate Aug 1647 Peculiar of the Dean and Chapter of Westminster

More About Francis Constable:
Burial: 02 Aug 1647, St. Margaret, Westminster
Christening: 14 May 1592, Datchet, co. Bucks
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Notes for Alice Owen:
Francis and Alice Constable were the parents of fifteen Children,four sons and eleven daughters:

1. Alice, bapt. St. Gregory by St. Paul, London 24 September 1615 [PR]

2. Sarah, bapt. St. Gregory by St. Paul 16 March 1616/7 [Pr] ~ Bishop of London license, 6 October 1646, to marry Anthony Savage - note misstatement of her age in the allegations. Francis Constable apparently signed the instrument himself. She probably died before going to Virginia but her husband went and bought 50 acres of land from (Col.)Richard Lee [Va. Patents 2:153]). She and her husband were among those who presented the will of her mother for probate 22nd. September 1647.
3. Joan, bapt. St. Gregory by St. Paul 11 September 1618 [PR].
4. Mary, bapt. St. Andrew, Enfield, Co. Middlesex 21st October 1619 [Enfield PR]. Still unmarried, she was among those who presented her mother's will for probate.
5. Elizabeth, bapt. St. Gregory by St. Paul 24 October 1620 [PR], no further record.
6. ANNE, bapt.St. Gregory by St.Paul 21 February 1621/2. She was not among those who presented her mother's will for probate but this may mean only that she was already out of the country. Gibbon stated that Anna Constable was the wife of (Col.) Richard Lee.
7. Margaret, bapt. St. Gregory by St. Paul 26 June 1623, married St. Margaret, Westminster, Robert Hunny.
8. Rachel, bapt. St. Gregory by St. Paul 24 September 1624 [PR], no further record.
9. Simon, bapt. Datchet, co. Bucks 14 August 1625, bur. St. Andrew Undershaft, London 29 November 1627. 10. Robert, bapt. St. Andrew Undershaft 24 August 1626 [PR], twin, bur.
10 September 1626 [PR].
11. Roger, bapt. St. Andrew Undershaft 24 August 1626 [PR], twin, bur. 10 September 1626 [PR].
12. Alice, bapt. St. Andrew Undershaft 16 March 1627/8 [PR], no further record.
13. Frances, bapt. St. Andrew Undershaft 5th July 1629, she was among those who presented her mother's will for probate.
14. Rachel, bapt. St. Andrew Undershaft 18 July 1630, married York County, Va. after 3 April 1651 [York co. Records 1:132] John Chew, Gent.; Richard Lee was one of her trustees in the pre-nuptial agreement. She was among those who presented her mother's will for probate.
15. Robert, bapt. St. Andrew Undershaft 2 October 1631 [PR], bur. St. Margaret, Westminster 28 August 1647.

Francis Constable died 1st. August 1647 of the plague and was buried the following day from St. Margaret, Westminster, while his widow was buried 4 August 1647. These registers are published and it should be noted that "Mr." is misread "Mrs." in his burial entry. Their only remaining son Robert was carried off by the plague the same month (buried 28 August) and it was after his death that the will of Alice Constable was filed for probate.

will of widow ALice Constable probate 22 sep 1647

More About Alice Owen:
Burial: 04 Aug 1647, St. Margaret, Westminster
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

Child of Francis Constable is:

Children of Francis Constable and Alice Owen are:
3 i. Anne Constable, born 1615 in London, England; died 06 Oct 1706 in Dividing Creek, Northumberland, Co, Va; married (1) Richard Lee Colonel 1641 in Jamestown, Virginia, USA; married (2) Edward Lister 24 Sep 1666 in Virginia, USA.
ii. Sarah Constable

More About Sarah Constable:
Christening: 16 Mar 1617, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

iii. Robert I Constable

More About Robert I Constable:
Burial: 28 Aug 1647, St. Margaret, Westminster
Christening: 24 Aug 1626, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

iv. Rachael I Constable, died Bef. 1630.

More About Rachael I Constable:
Christening: 24 Sep 1624, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

v. Alice I Constable, died Bef. 1825.

More About Alice I Constable:
Christening: 24 Sep 1615, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

vi. Joan Constable

More About Joan Constable:
Christening: 11 Sep 1618, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

vii. Mary Constable

More About Mary Constable:
Christening: 21 Oct 1619, St. Andrew, Enfield, Co. Middlesex
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

viii. Elizabeth Constable

More About Elizabeth Constable:
Christening: 24 Oct 1620, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

ix. Margaret Constable

More About Margaret Constable:
Christening: 26 Jun 1623, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

x. Simeon Constable

More About Simeon Constable:
Burial: 29 Nov 1627, St. Andrew Undershaft, London
Christening: 14 Aug 1625, Datchet, co. Bucks
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

xi. Roger Constable

More About Roger Constable:
Burial: 10 Sep 1626, St. Andrew Undershaft, London
Christening: 24 Aug 1626, St. Andrew Undershaft, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

xii. Frances Constable

More About Frances Constable:
Christening: St. Andrew Undershaft, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

xiii. Rachel II Constable

Notes for Rachel II Constable:
14. Rachel, bapt. St. Andrew Undershaft 18 July 1630, married York County, Va. after 3 April 1651 [York co. Records 1:132] John Chew, Gent.; Richard Lee was one of her trustees in the pre-nuptial agreement. She was among those who presented her mother's will for probate.

More About Rachel II Constable:
Christening: 18 Jul 1630, St. Andrew Undershaft, London
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

Generation No. 4

8. Richard Lee, born 1564 in of, Cocton, Shropshire, England; died 1621 in of, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England. He was the son of John Lee and Joyce or Jocota ROMNEY. He married 9. Elizabeth BENDEY.
9. Elizabeth BENDEY, born Abt. 1566 in of, Cocton, , England.

Notes for Richard Lee:
Richard Lee, fishmonger
Richard Lee was baptised at St. Mary's church, Alveley, Shropshire, on 15th September 1622. Richard was the son of Lancelot Lee, Lord of the manor of Alveley, and his first wife Jane Clemson.
The Apprentice records of Fishmongers Company which are held at the Guildhall Library in London show that in 1639 Richard Lee, son of Lancelot Lee of Alveley, gent of Salop, was apprenticed to JohnLee, fishmonger, of London for 7 years.
Richard served his apprenticeship and was made a freeman of the Fishmongers Company in 1647. In that same year Thomas Nicholls, son of Thomas Nicholls of Alveley, who was a brother in law of Lancelot Lee by his wife Eleanor Lee, was also apprenticed to John Lee.
And in 1649 Lancelot Lee, another son of Lancelot Lee of Alveley, Shropshire was apprenticed to Francis Collins, fishmonger
This John Lee to whom Richard Lee and Thomas Nicholls were apprenticedwas the brother of Lancelot Lee of Coton and was the clerk of the company.We would call him the treasurer of the company and he ran the day to day finances of the company.
All of these Lee family members were entitled to use the Lee arms which are now used by the Lee family of Virginia.

More About Richard Lee:
Christening: 06 Oct 1564, of, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About Elizabeth BENDEY:
Christening: of, Nordley Regis, , England
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Children of Richard Lee and Elizabeth BENDEY are:
4 i. John Lee or Lyes Clothier, born Abt. 1588 in of, Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, Salop, England; died in Worcester, Worcestershire; married Jane HANCOCK.
ii. Richard Lee, born Abt. 1594 in of, Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, Salop, England; married Alice TURNOR; born Abt. 1600 in of Droitwich, Worcestershire, England.

More About Richard Lee:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Alice TURNOR:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

10. Edward HANCOCK, died 1621 in will 1621. He married 11. Alice JEFFRIES.
11. Alice JEFFRIES, born Abt. 1560 in of Twining.

More About Edward HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Alice JEFFRIES:
Record Change: 05 Sep 2006

Children of Edward HANCOCK and Alice JEFFRIES are:
i. Edward HANCOCK, born Abt. 1578 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England.

More About Edward HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

ii. Richard HANCOCK, born Abt. 1580 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England; married Susana; born Abt. 1630 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England.

More About Richard HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Susana:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

iii. John HANCOCK, born Abt. 1582 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England; married Margaret BEST; born Abt. 1588 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England.

More About John HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Margaret BEST:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

iv. Elizabeth HANCOCK, born Abt. 1584 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England; died Bef. 1666; married Rowland BEST; born Abt. 1580 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England.

More About Elizabeth HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Rowland BEST:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

v. Thomas HANCOCK, born Abt. 1587 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England; married PAINTING.

More About Thomas HANCOCK:
Christening: clothier
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About PAINTING:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

vi. Mary HANCOCK, born Abt. 1591 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England; married Thomas SAVAGE; born Abt. 1600 in Wocester Worcestershire, England.

More About Mary HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Thomas SAVAGE:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

vii. William HANCOCK, born Abt. 1593 in of Twining, Gloucester Co. England; died 1675 in will Breedsdon, Norton; married (1) Sarah BONAMY; married (2) Catherine MAYLE; born Abt. 1600 in Wocester Worcestershire, England.

More About William HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Sarah BONAMY:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

5 viii. Jane HANCOCK, born Abt. 1596 in Worcester, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England; married (1) John Lee or Lyes Clothier; married (2) John MANNING or MANINGE.

12. Robert Constable7, born 1565 in Datchet, Buckinghamshire, England7. He married 13. Margery Barker 15907.
13. Margery Barker7, born 1570 in Datchet, Buckinghamshire, England7; died in England7. She was the daughter of Christopher Barker.

More About Robert Constable:
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

More About Margery Barker:
Record Change: 04 Mar 2004

Children of Robert Constable and Margery Barker are:
6 i. Francis Constable, born Abt. 1590 in England; died 01 Aug 1647 in London, plague; married (2) Alice Owen.

Endnotes

1. Ancestry.com, One World Tree (sm), Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., n.d., Online publication - Ancestry.com. OneWorldTree [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc.
2. Heritage Consulting, Millennium File, Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2003, Online publication - Heritage Consulting. Millennium File [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2003.Original data - Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Heritage Consulting, Données d’origine : Consultation du patrimoine. Le Fichier du millénaire. Salt Lake City : Consultation du patrimoine, 19--.
3. Ancestry.com, One World Tree (sm), Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., n.d., Online publication - Ancestry.com. OneWorldTree [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc.
4. Edmund West, comp., Family Data Collection - Individual Records, Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000, Online publication - Edmund West, comp.. Family Data Collection - Individual Records [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000.
5. Ancestry.com, One World Tree (sm), Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., n.d., Online publication - Ancestry.com. OneWorldTree [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc.
6. Edmund West, comp., Family Data Collection - Births, Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2001, Online publication - Edmund West, comp.. Family Data Collection - Births [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2001.
7. Ancestry.com, One World Tree (sm), Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., n.d., Online publication - Ancestry.com. OneWorldTree [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc.

4/24/2011 at 11:17 AM

Okay, I'm about to work on William Lee, Colonel.

Here is what the link points to: [Hancock Lee of Ditchley

If you click on this link you are directed to Hancock Lee, so it is clear that a merger of Hancock Lee and William Constable Lee took place.

I definitely cleaned up birth place of Lee children because reading Charles Co, VA reminds me of that. I don't know if it was William Constable Lee that I worked on to fix all the data fields. If so, here goes a second time.

4/24/2011 at 11:17 AM

That's weird. I'll send it in an email instead. I can cut and paste it and put it into the address bar and it directs to Hancock Lee.

4/24/2011 at 11:18 AM

Hatte Blejer (absent until Nov 1)

Here was the revision list on William yesterday about 11:20 am - perhaps this will help Mike and yourself locate original profile:

William Lee, Colonel's parents were changed to Colonel Richard "the Immigrant" Lee I and Ann Lee (Constable) by Ms. K. Anderson, Curator.
William Lee, Colonel was merged into William Lee, Colonel by Ms. K. Anderson, Curator.
William Lee, Colonel's profile was updated by Ms. K. Anderson, Curator. suffix view

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