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Amice la Fusche

Also Known As: "Amice la Fusche", "Amicia", "Not d'Albini", "not Martia or Amicia le Brun"
Birthdate:
Death: after January 30, 1234
Knockin, Warwickshire, England
Immediate Family:

Wife of John II le Strange
Mother of John III le Strange; Hamon le Strange; Margery le Strange and N.N.

Managed by: Eric Michael Anderson
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About Amice la Fusche

Not the daughter of Ralph de Albini Brito, seigneur de Ingleby & Sybilla de Valoignes


John le Strange (II), occ 1178-1232; obit 1237-8. m. Amice. He names Amice as his wife in the Lilleshall cartulary.

They got married about 1193 at Of Cheswardine, Shropshire, Eng.

John (II) le Strange died before 20 January 1234. [2] John Lestrange II was dead by 20 January 1233/4 when his son gave homage. [5]

Child(ren):

  1. Alice le Strange ± 1191-1219
  2. Amicia LeStrange ± 1192-1235
  3. John le Strange, III 1194-1269. Chapter IV, John le Strange (III) 1234-1269. Page 99- . < Le Strange Record >. Married Lucia de Tregoz.
  4. Hamon le Strange 1198-> 1229. page 84. < Le Strange Records > “Eyton makes out 7 that another Hamon, son of John le Strange (II), and consequently nephew of the above Hamon, was living at this period, but the evidence for his existence seems to me inconclusive.”
  5. Margery le Strange 1198-1225. Page 85-86. < Le Strange Records >. “The only daughter of John (II) and Amicia, of whom any mention has come down to us, Margery, whom Eyton shows to have been the wife of Ralph de Pichford, and that they had a daughter, Burgia, who married Nicholas de Wililey ; 5 in support of this he cites an undated deed : 8”
  6. William Strange 1200-???? Page 90-91. < Le Strange Records > “A writ of November 27, 1233, from the King at Hereford to the Sheriff of Bedford, directs him to imprison William fitz Godwin and Ailneth' Hert, suspected of the death of William le Strange through hatred and envy (odio et athia).9 This proves that we are dealing with at least two Williams, since we have just seen that another of the name was alive in 1236.”
  7. Hawise le Strange ± 1204-± 131

[Undated], Amice died before John, who presented her body for burial. (S) 13th Century England, Vs1-3, 11, 13; Weiler, 2007, P183. Bef. 1/20/1234, John died.


John (II) le Strange died before 20 January 1234. [2] John Lestrange II was dead by 20 January 1233/4 when his son gave homage. [5]

John was an important lord of the Welsh march, and a loyal supporter of Kings Richard I, John, and Henry III. He is discussed in detail in "Le Strange Records" by Hamon Le Strange. He wrote that concerning the end of "the long life of John le Strange (II)", it must have occurred "at the end of 1233, or the beginning of 1234. He must have been about eighty years of age, for sixty of which he had been in public life ; the trusted servant successively of Henry II, Richard Coeur-de-Lion, John, and Henry III ; he never wavered in his staunch allegiance to each of them ; faithful even to King John when almost all his other vassals rebelled against him. John le Strange served his sovereign loyally, yet in such a manner as to preserve the respect of his fellow barons, and to retain and even to increase the authority which, by common consent, was committed to him on the Welsh border. Like his father, he was open-handed in his donations to the Church, especially in association with his suzerains, the fitz Alans."

Cawley names three children of John [II] & his wife; Boyer just two.

  1. John (III) le Strange, died before 26 March 1269. Married Lucy. [2][5]
  2. Hamo le Strange [2]
  3. Margery. Married Ralph de Pichford. [2][5]

Origins

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/La_Fusche-1

Quoting from "Le Strange Records", page 81: < Archive.Org >

"I have already mentioned the name of John's wife as cited by him in his grant of the church of Holme to Lilleshall Abbey, made ' pro salute anime mee et anime Amicie uxoris mee.' Eyton cites, without giving reference, another deed, whereby John gives 'for the sustentation of the poor at the gate of Lilleshall Abbey the chapel or church of Sanketon, with the body of Amicia his wife, when she shall have gone the way of all flesh'. This is all the mention of her which has come down to us; It appears there is no known evidence concerning the background (or family name) of Amicia."[1]

Query: does Eyton's record imply that Amice died before her husband?

The VCH Leicestershire, vol 5, in the article about the Manor of Shangton, names the wife of John Lestrange II as Amice la Fusche). It also states that she granted her land in Shangton to a son William, who must have been born shortly before his father died.[2] (The records it cites are in the Leicester City Muniments Room, reference 31 D. 56/37.)

Neither Amice/Amicia's family name, nor a son William are named in either Eyton's Shropshire, vol 10, p 270 or LeStrange Records, p. 98 but as the VCH Leicestershire is a later publication (1964) then it may represent more recent research. Unfortunately the sources it cites don't appear to be available online anywhere.


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Source: "Le Strange Records" (1904) facing page 99. < Archive.Org >


References

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lestrange John I's son John II Lestrange (died 1223) and his three other sons all acquired lands in Shropshire and over the Welsh border in Powys, with John II making his headquarters at Knockin (pronounced Nuckin) where he and his successors built a castle, church and village. He served as sheriff of Shropshire and of Staffordshire.[1] He also joined his neighbour, Robert Corbet, on the Third Crusade.[4]
  2. Le Strange, Hamon, 1840-1918. Le Strange records : a chronicle of the early Le Stranges of Norfolk and the March of Wales A.D. 1100-1310, with the lines of Knockin and Blackmere continued to their extinction. (Publication date 1916). “Chapter III, John le Strange (II) 1178-1234.” Page 59 - 83 < Archive.Org >
  3. https://www.davidleas.com/leas%20family%20genealogy/2/75800.htm (cites geni)
  4. https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/99QS-3B1
  5. https://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/family-tree-welborn/I30541.php
  6. https://www.geni.com/projects/The-d-Aubigny-and-de-Albini-families-of-Norman-England-Lords-of-Arundel-and-Belvoir/1140 (did not have a daughter Amice)
  7. https://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/mcdonald-wilton-family-tree/I631...
  8. WikiTree contributors, "Amicia (la Fusche) Strange (1172-1235)," WikiTree: The Free Family Tree, (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/La_Fusche-1 : accessed 31 March 2024). cites
    1. Le Strange, Hamon. Le Strange records : a chronicle of the early Le Stranges of Norfolk and the March of Wales A.D. 1100-1310, with the lines of Knockin and Blackmere continued to their extinction. (1916) Page 82 < Archive.Org >
    2. 'Shangton', in A History of the County of Leicestershire: Volume 5, Gartree Hundred, (London, 1964) pp. 293-297. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/leics/vol5/pp293-297 [accessed 24 March 2024] The earliest documentary evidence shows that SHANGTON was in the possession of John Lestrange II (fl. 1197–1234), and that he held ¾ knight's fee there by 1206. (fn. 23) John Lestrange II married Amice la Fusche, (fn. 24) and she, after her husband's death, granted all her land in Shangton to her son William. William must have been born shortly before his father's death, (fn. 25) as he was apparently only just of age in 1253. (fn. 26)
      1. 23. Cur. Reg. R. iv. 184; Leic. City Mun. Room, Farnham's MS. notes, citing fine of Hilary, 9 John; Assoc. Archit. Soc. Rep. & Papers, xxiv. 249–50.
      2. 24. Leic. City Mun. Room, 31 D. 56/37.
      3. 25. For the family, see Complete Peerage, xii. 347 sqq.
      4. 26. Assoc. Archit. Soc. Rep. & Papers, xxxv. 150, 152.
    3. Eyton, Antiquities of Shropshire X, p.267 - 270 < Archive.Org > I have been unable to ascertain the parentage of his wife Amicia, but some obscurity which has been added to this subject may be dispelled in a note. 4. I have not found authentic mention of more than two sons of John le Strange (II). These were John, his successor, and Hamo. He had also a daughter, Margery, to whom, on her marriage with Ralph de Pichford, he gave land in Lytcham (Norfolk). 5
      1. 4. Dugdale and Blomefield reduce the two first John le Stranges to one person, represented as dying in 8 Hen. III. (1218-9). Other authorities make this single John to have married " Martia or Amicia le Brun." The Lady alluded to was however Grandmother of John le Strange (II) and mother of John le Strange (I). The only authentic Record in which I find mention of her Christian name gives it as Matilda.
      2. 5. Supra, Vol. VI. p. 273
  9. WikiTree contributors, "John (Strange) le Strange (abt.1155-bef.1234)," WikiTree: The Free Family Tree, (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Strange-21 : accessed 31 March 2024). cites
    1. Eyton, The Rev. R.W. Antiquities of Shropshire. Vol. X. Published by John Russell Smith, London, MDCCCLX. Pages 259-274.House of Le Strange
    2. Charles Cawley. Medieval Lands: A Prosopography of Medieval European Noble and Royal Families, Online at Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Website. “English Lords.” < John (II) le Strange > accessed 31 March 2024.
    3. Le Strange, Hamon. LeStrange records; a chronicle of the early LeStranges of Norfolk and the Marches of Wales. A.D. 1100-1310. Printed by Longmans, London 1916.Ch 3- John III
    4. Robert William Eyton. Antiquities of Shropshire. London: John Russell Smith, Publisher, 1860. Vol X, pp 262-263 Le Strange of Ness and Cheswardine -- Table. < Archive.Org >. “Page n299 John le Strange^ the Patron.^ I need not repeat the Charter^ already printed^ whereby soon afterwards '^ John le Strange^ son of John le Strange/' for the souls' health of himself and Amicia his wife, gave the Church of Hulm to Lilleshall Abbey; " Master William le Strange, the Grantor's brother, attesting the gift."^ By other Deeds, John le Strange, son of John le Strange, gives for the snstentation of the poor at the gate of Lilleshall Abbey the Chapel or Church of Sanketon." He gives it with the body of Amicia his wife, when she shall have gone the way of all flesh."
    5. Carl Boyer 3rd. English Ancestors of Certain Americans. By the author: Santa Clarita, California, 2003. John Lestrange II is #3 on page 232. Boyer cites Eyton's Ant. Shropshire, 10:262; and CP, 12:1:350
  10. “Baron John le Strange & Lady Amicia la Fusche” (Monday, August 24, 2020) <teachergenealogist007.com>
  11. https://buist-keatch.org/buist/chesney/14306.html Amice is living after her husband’s death. Mentions son William l, who is a brother of John lll & Hamo.
  12. THE BATTLE ABBEY ROLL. WITH SOME ACCOUNT OF THE NORMAN LINEAGES. BY THE DUCHESS OF CLEVELAND. IN THREE VOLUMES.—VOL. II < link > Estrange : John, the common ancestor of the two great baronial families that bore the name, was the first of seven John Le Stranges, who followed each other in lineal succession as chiefs of a house "remarkable for longevity, activity, and loyal steadfastness." They had a castle and park at Cheswardine; but the head of their Honour was the frontier fortress of Knockyn, traditionally said to have been founded by Guy the Viscount. Round this, their principal stronghold, "the Stranges gradually amassed an extent of territory which made them formidable even to their own suzerains the Fitz Alans, and constituted the Chatelleny or Fee of Knockyn." They were enterprising and energetic Barons Marcher. John II., who died in 1237, an old man of more than eighty, had spent fully fifty years of his life in the active discharge of the duties of his station. King John greatly favoured and trusted him, and he never swerved from his loyalty, but proved himself a faithful liegeman to the very end.
  13. https://thesignsofthetimes.com.au/30/56955.htm
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Amice la Fusche's Timeline

1175
1175
1194
1194
Ness Cheswardine, Shropshire, England
1198
1198
1198
Cheswardine, Shropshire, England
1234
January 30, 1234
Age 59
Knockin, Warwickshire, England
1958
June 28, 1958
Age 59
June 28, 1958
Age 59
June 28, 1958
Age 59