Charlotte Hyndes, Convict “Glatton” 1803

Died (9 February 1849 – wrong see death and funeral notice below –) 6th January 1849 aged 69 at her residence in Sussex Street Sydney.

Death Registered 1849—Rego no V1849985 34B/1849 HYNDES CHARLOTTE AGE 69

Buried St Thomas’ Church of England Enfield Sydney NSW with her husband Thomas Hyndes. Notes for Charlotte Hyndes (nee Green)

Her known brothers are James Absolom Green born abt 1785, and Amaziah Green born 1787.

Charlotte was the first related Green to arrive in Australia (although her brother Amaziah’s daughter-in-law Maria Bates’ father arrived with the 2nd Fleet), arriving as a convict on the H. M. S. ‘Glatton’ on 11 March 1803 at Port Jackson (same ship as husband to be).

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Sydney Gazette – Sunday 12th March 1803

Yesterday, shortly before or paper went to the press, arrived within the heads His Majesty’s ship “Glatton” commanded by Capt COLNET, from England with prisoners of both sexes. Capt. COLNET saw a ship the day before he got in which he supposes to have been the “Bridgewater”, whose arrival may be hourly expected.

• Charlotte Green was tried Mainstone and sentenced in Kent Gaol England on the 27th July 1801to transportation for life. She was arrested and charged in the company of a man stealing goods from the home of a widow, Mary Bassett to the value of 24 pounds 8 shillings and 6 pence. These goods were described as 72 shawls, 42 handkerchiefs, 12 pairs of shoes, one gown, one pair of stockings, 2 gold rings, 2 teaspoons, 3 pounds of tea, 15 pounds of pork and 4 pounds of money. - That is a pretty impressive hoist - I bet it was all that ham that had them caught imagine trying to carry it all. After arriving in Port Jackson (Sydney) Charlotte was assigned to work as a servant and she was given her Free and Full Pardon in 1814 by Governor Macquarie. Charlotte was the first of our Green family to come to Australia. Charlotte Green has 2 known brothers James and Amaziah. Amaziah is the father of George Green who married Maria Bates and also Mary Ann Green who married William Bates, as well as others.
• They married on the 9th February 1806 by Reverend Samuel Marsden at St Philip’s Church York Street Sydney both aged 26 years.

The witness’ were James and Elizabeth Deakin.

Notes from Ken Goswell

It is my contention that this person, who I believe was a sister of Amaziah, and of course it is not my mentioned on my charts, hereunder, that first brought the name of Green of our forebears to this then penal Colony of New South Wales. She arrived at Port Jackson on the year 1803 – orf if you like it mire boldly stated 175 years ago (in 1978).

Actually the wonderful name of Charlotte Greens has been a godsend to me, for as mentioned above, a birth certificate first provided information for my research.

Now I claim, that it was Charlotte who rose from the lowest state in society to reach top class here in Sydney. In her climb upward she corresponded with her own people back in England informing them of her good fortune that came her way and the wealth of opportunity here in this new colony.

I surmise, that as Amaziah’s sister, she offered herself as a guardian of young George who came to Port Jackson in 1882, aged only 12 years in 1834. Why else would such a young boy make the journey of some 12,000 miles, unless a relative was here to greet him?

Slipping in the word ‘penal’above, you have guessed perhaps that in fact Charlotte was a “POM” (my version of how this word made it’s way into the Australian Dictionary of slang – POM- Prisoner of His Majesty (The “H” is silent). Not to be silent myself, it is rue to say the Charlote was a convict, but so too was her husband-to-be Thomas Hyndes. Both were sentenced to servitude for life to the Colony of New South Wales.

(It is true that Mary Reiby, that famous first business woman of those early years was only 13 years old when she was convicted of riding a stolen horse.)

Well if it will ease you minds I can state catergorically that neither George who arrived in 1822, nor his father in 1834 were in my version “Poms”.

Both Charlotte Green and Thomas Hyndes came to Port Jackson, Sydney as prisoners in H.M.S. “Glatton” in 1803. There must have been some long waiting on transports for convicts to Australia for I found that Charlotte was sentenced at the Assizes in Kent in 1801 while Thomas in Surey in 1800.

The last convict transport ship reached Australia in 1868. In all 160,151 convicts came out to Australia since the First Fleet came to Port Jackson in 1788. In all 629 voyages were made and carried approximately 255 convicts per ship. The 1803 voyage by H.M.S. “Glatton”was the only Navy ship, was employed in the period of 80 miserable and damnable years of convict transportation.

On the 9th day of February 1806, Charlotte Green was married to Thomas Hyndes by the Rev. Samuel Marsden at Saint Philip’s Church, York Street Sydney. Thomas Hyndes was granted full and free pardon by His Excellency Governor Macguarie in 1812, while Charlotte received her pardon by the same governor in 1814.

Thomas Hyndes soon made his mark, for he obtained a large grant in the Lane Cove area (this was near where Gordon is today). Lane Cove Road then extended up over the Lane

Cove iver at DeBurgh’s Bridge and down what is now called Mona Vale Road to Ingleside. Part of the road is still called Lane Cove Road today. Another fact is the Fidden’s Wharf on the Lane Cove River was previously called Hyndes Wharf. It was then navigable to a mile futher up the Lane Cove River.

That Thomas Hyndes was a progressive and industrious mans is shown by the fact that he became also a large holder of land grants in the district of St George, Burwood and Shoalhaven.

I was told by Author Eric Russell that Charlotte and Thomas are revered in a book on the History of Burwood.

Charlotte died at their residence in Sussex Street Sydney on the 9th February 1849 aged 69. (Her 43rd Wedding Anniversary). Notice in the Sydney Morning Herald 8th January 1849 No 2501

Mrs Hyndes wife of Thomas Hyndes – councillor, with whom he had lived nearly half a century died 6th January 1849 at her residence Sussex Street. Funeral to St Thomas’ Church of England Enfield – Liverpool Rd 10th January 1849 aged 69 years.

Notes from Mary Mannings

She was arrested and charged in the company of a man of stealing goods from the home of a widow Mary Basset to the value of 24 pounds 8 shillings and sixpence. These goods were defined as 72 shawls, 42 handkerchiefs, 12 pairs of shoes, one gown, one pair of stockings, 2 gold rings, 2 teaspoons, 3 pounds of tea, 15 pounds weight of pork and four pounds in money (It must have been a pretty wealthy widow) Charlotte was tried in Mainstone in July 1801 and sentenced for transportation for life -

Notes from Ray Green- August 2005

Charlotte Green, was convicted at Kent Gaol Delivery on 27 July 1801. Thomas Hyndes, later her husband, was convicted at Surry Assizes 11 August 1801. “Charlotte Green tried Maidstone July 1801 2384 original document PRO NO N5049 AO (per Shirley McCorkindale, State Library.) Charlotte previously spent time in an English jail for burglary before transportation. On the occasion of transportation she was charged and convicted in the company of a man of stealing goods including 72 shawls, 42 handkerchiefs, 12 pairs of shoes, one gown, two gold rings, one pair of stockings, two teaspoons, three pounds weight of tea, 15 pounds weight of pork and four pounds in money from the home of a widow, Mary Bassett a total value of 24 pounds eight shillings and six pence.”

ReThomas Hyndes He was tried at Surrey Assizes on 11 August 1800 and sentenced to transportation for life for highway robbery.In company with another man Hyndes (spelt Hindes in public records) with force and arms did make an assault on Thomas Grylls at Putney and took one watch to the value of 5 pounds, one purse to the value of one shlling, and one gold half sovereign and one other gold coin value seven shillings.

Note from Glenice

Charlotte and her husband Thomas were the much-loved guardians (from the age of 12) of her nephew George Green and were witness at his marriage to Maria Bates. Both Charlotte and her husband Thomas Hyndes’ names were given to many offspring of her brother Amaziah and his descendants.