It has come to my attention that many of the profiles for deceased people created by me, were private. That was never my intention and probably caused by leaving it to Geni to decide. I today (2020-10-06) revisited all of them. Only a few remain private for various reasons, like being born after 1915 with no death notice available. People nowadays become very old and you cannot just decide they must be deceased, because they are almost or over 100.

Should you see any errors on my tree, or have any photos, documents, dates or any other information you would like to add, correct, or update, preferably please contact me so I can amend the relevant profile. The same applies for profile merging. You can edit yourself if you have documentary proof.

Please never edit notes under the heading "Notes by David Abraham Swanepoel" or undersigned by me. Type 4 dashes to create a demarcation line and type below what you are in disagreement with, or start a pubic discussion, or still the best, contact me through the message facility.

Alle bydraes deur my is onderhewig aan ‘n vrywaring. Sommiges, waar die bydrae minimaal was, is bloot onderteken.

All contributions by me are subject to an indemnity. Some, where the contribution was minimal, were simply signed.

Langer notas begin met “Notas deur David Abraham Swanepoel” en is afgesluit met die volgende:

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Kwytskelding: geen verantwoordelikheid word aanvaar vir enige foutiewe of onakkurate inligting nie, hetsy aangehaal, herverpak of self geskryf.

Longer notes start with “Notes by David Abraham Swanepoel” and ended by:

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Disclaimer: no responsibility is accepted for any incorrect or inaccurate information, whether quoted, repackaged or written by myself.

Daarna is dit verkort na een “bydrae deur” klousule bo-aan wat ook vir korter bydraes gebruik word.

It was then shortened to one “contribution by” clause at the top, which is also used for shorter contributions.

Bydrae deur David Abraham Swanepoel onderhewig aan vrywaring in my profiel. Inligting mag gebruik word onder lisensie Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International tensy ‘n ander regspersoon se kopiereg aangedui word.

of /or Contribution by David Abraham Swanepoel subject to disclaimer in my profile. Information may be used under license Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International unless another legal entity's copyright is indicated.

Enige van die 3 kan aangetref word. Wanneer daar vir ander redes aan bydraes gewerk word, mag dit verander word na die nuutste formaat, maar ek het geen doelwit om dit met almal te doen nie.

Any of the 3 can be found. When working on contributions for other reasons, it may be changed to the latest format, but I have no intention of doing so with all of them.

Thank you.

My way of working

I love to write all sorts of notes. This is mainly Afrikaans as I started out on MyHeritage where the original tree still is, limited to family members. I decided to join Geni too, as there are fewer limitations and I can contribute to a world tree. Most of the notes were just copied over. Sentimental and private information was taken out. A “free” translation will be provided for free on request. A proper translation can be provided against the cost of such a translation. Machine translation is not advised. Furthermore, if you need information for any purpose other than hobbying, you are advised to use the services of a professional genealogist.

I am aware that there is no such thing as a family crest. I however do not like the “empty” avatars and used any crest found on the internet, by lack of a portrait photograph or gravestone on profiles I have worked on. This is the last step after I have worked on a profile and did quality control on, as a sort of seal of quality for myself. However, as implied above and at each note, I do not guarantee any quality and I also frequently revise my notes as new information becomes available. I have also designed a “generic” crest when none other is found, the one with a picture of a hare in it. This can refer to any family. I have found this has been taken over by MyHeritage profile owners as authentic, so I am phasing it out and replace it with just the surname (created with a text-to-image converter).

The concept of “person of interest to me”. The question is how far you can go with creating profiles. With family, just blood family of your in-laws. “Close” family or very much removed family? That is your choice, but sometimes people, family or not, just keep proliferating. You worked very hard with scant information. Finally you find a death notice of the person that interest you, find he or she had many children, each of those had many children, it is now around 1900 and the mortality for people dying before their old age has dropped tremendously. Online records are more readily available – in fact sometimes those people are a genealogist’s dream. You only have so much time though. Therefore I did not open profiles for people that were beyond my ”Interest”. This concept is hard to define. Just do not accept that if I profiled only one child of a couple, that he or she may not have any siblings, or that a couple had no children. I usually at least open a profile for a known spouse.

Creating a profile or adding records for politically associated or otherwise controversial people, by no means means I support or admire them. I have worked with profiles of people from the far left to the far right.

I do not cite living information providers by name unless I have their permission. I have found that such people are reluctant to give permission as the information is subject to their own memory that they do not fully trust. Oral tradition has its place in any historiography, but its reliability is far less than written sources.

Place names: It is historically correct to use the name of a place as it was when an event took place. A birth in Church Street West, Pretoria, South African Republic in 1890, therefore did not take place in WF Nkomo Street, City of Tshwane, Province of Gauteng, Republic of South Africa. Even worse if a place was founded long after the event. My GGF Swanepoel is indicated on his death notice as born in Zastron in 1845. The town was only founded in 1876. He was essentially born stateless in the vicinity of the later town, as other records correctly indicate “over the grenzen” (across the borders, from a Cape perspective). Unfortunately Geni conveniently maps localities to modern names if a few letters are typed.

Now you may ask, why am I using modern names for grave sites. I usually copy and paste the format of the eGGSA grave database. The reason is, that this is still the set-up. Deceased buried in Transvaal now find themselves in any of 4 new provinces. Unless an exhumation took place that we do not know of, people buried in Pretoria are now buried in the province of Gauteng although they did not move an inch. The argument is not fool-proof, but indicating it like this, facilitates visits to such graves especially if the eGGSA grave web address is also provided, taking the reader to the graveyard’s coordinates.

I normally do not open or cooperate on profiles of living people. According to my interpretation of the Protection of Personal Information (POPI) Act (4/2013) it is illegal to publish records of living people without their permission. Exceptions are public figures whose information is on the internet anyway.

You can use my information without consultation as per the licence notice at each formal note. That is, you can copy, but must acknowledge and do not use it for profit. For any derivates, i.e. based mostly on my work but with some changes, contacting me first will be highly appreciated.

Other research activities, mainly career practice-oriented:

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/David_Swanepoel

https://orcid.org/0000-0002-6873-2123

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David Abraham Swanepoel is op 15-12-1958 gebore op die plaas Enkelbosch, distrik Koppies. Ek is gebore in die huis van my grootouers Hennop, Enkelbosch onderverdeling 3. 'n Vroedvrou (opgeleide spesialisverpleegsuster) was teenwoordig. Ek het grootgeword in die huis sowat 800m suidwes daarvan. Die eerste paar jaar slaap ek in die voorste kamer, daarna ruil my ma die kamers om en ek slaap steeds in daardie kamer na 50+ jaar as ek op die plaas is.

Ek matrikuleer aan die Sekondêre Skool Sarel Cilliers op Koppies.

Na studies in biblioteekkunde aan die Potchefstroomse Universiteit (1977-1981) doen ek militêre diensplig in die destydse Voortrekkerhoogte en naby Phalaborwa. Ek tree in diens van die staat, waarvan die landbounavorsingskomponent in 1992 na die Landbounavorsingsraad uitgelyf word. Ek bekom ook ‘n nagraadse diploma in inligtingbestuur aan die destydse RAU in 2003. Ek is was ‘n senior inligtingspesialis in die LNR en hoof van die Onderstepoort Veeartsenykunde-Instituut se biblioteek. Ek het op 31 Julie 2020 afgetree.

Ek is die eerste Swanepoel in die Enkelbosch-lyn sedert die stamvader (ongeveer 300 jaar) wat nie boerdery as beroep kies nie, maar is darem nog op ‘n manier betrokke by landbou!

Bronne:

Familie-oorlewering

Persoonlike kennis

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Kwytskelding: geen verantwoordelikheid word aanvaar vir enige foutiewe of onakkurate inligting nie, hetsy aangehaal, herverpak of self geskryf.

Tot op hede (23-01-2020), het ek my primêre vaderlike en moederlike lyne nagevors tot by die stamvaders en -moeders en soms verder terug. Die werk was basies reeds gedoen deur andere. Vir Swanepoels het ek net 2 name verby die stamvader, een ‘n naamgenoot van hom gebore c1606. Twee verdere geslagte is moontlik, maar data is myns insiens nie genoegsaam nie.

Die stamvader se moederlyn oupagrootjie, Charles van Hille is ‘n skakel met ‘n familie wat tot in die 1300s teruggevoer kan word. Hulle het nie ver van die Swanepoels gewoon nie.

Willem van (den) Hille is your 17th great grandfather. You → Jacobus Christoffel Swanepoel, b6c4d2e1f3g11h2 your father → David Abraham Swanepoel, b6c4d2e1f3g11, his father → Jacobus Christoffel Swanepoel, b6c4d2e1f3, his father → Jacobus Christoffel Swanepoel, b6c4d2e1, his father → Anna Cornelia Swanepoel, b7c7d2, his mother → Abraham Christoffel Swanepoel, b7c7, her father → Hendrik Swanepoel, b7, his father → Pieter Jansz Swanepoel, SV/PROG, his father → Maria Swanepoel, his mother → Maria Herebout, her mother → Charles Van Hille, her father → Eloy van Hille, his father → Joos van Hille, his father → Cornelis van Hille, his father → Jan van Hille, his father → Jan van Hille, his father → Martin van Hille, his father → Logier van Hille, his father → Willem van (den) Hille, his father

Willem van den Hille kon sover terug as 1350 gebore gewees het.

Ander Swanepoel moederlike lyne se voorgeslagte is ook bekend en van hierdie mense kon in die 1400s gebore gewees het.

Die vroegste verwysings na Swanepoels kan ook in weeskinderrekords en een ramprekord gevind word.

“Dokumente in Belgiese argiewe toon egter aan dat Swaenepoel- en Zwaenepoel-gesinne reeds in die sestiende eeu in Wes-Vlaandere gewoon het. Die vroegste vermeldings na Zwa(e)nepoels, sover bekend, kom voor in Wezerijakten van die Wes-Vlaamse dorp Kortemark waar daar in die jare 1547, 1558 en 1569 reeds melding van Zwa(e)nepoel-weeskinders en Zwa(e)nepoel-voogde gemaak is. Nog ‘n voorbeeld word aangetref in ‘n dokument van 1585 waarin melding gemaak word van ‘n Jan Zwaenepoel. Hy en sy gesin was een van slegs 68 gesinne wat in die Wes-Vlaamse dorp Roeselare oorgebly het nadat bendes “vrijbuiters” die dorp totaal verwoes, verbrand en leeggeplunder het.” (A.J. Swanepoel in medewerking met Aletta Maria Swanepoel. 1999. n Geslagregister van Swanepoel-families in Suid-Afrika. Pretoria: A.J. Swanepoel. CD weergawe, 2015. Wie op hulle beurt aanhaal: Goddeeres, J. 1989. Toen in Roeselare nog 68 gezinnen woonden. Vlaamse Stam, 25ste jaargang, nummers 3 - 4, pp. 212 - 214 en Zwaenepoel, M. 1960. Stamboom van de familie Swanepoel, Swaenepoel, Zwaenepoel.)

Ongelukkig is hierdie inligting genoegsaam om van kennis te neem, maar dit kan nie in die boom ingewerk word nie.

Die Hennoplyn was ook reeds deur die vroeë genealoë uitgewerk, maar niks is bekend verby die stamvader nie. Om dit te kry sal daar waarskynlik fisies na sy plek van oorspring, Bad Kreuznach, huidige suidoos Duitsland gereis moet word. Daar sal ‘n SA navorser met Duits in die ou Duitse skrif gekonfronteeer word, indien nie ook met Latyn soos Swanepoel-navorsers nie. Die vroulike lyn kom wel weer tot die redding, deurdat die stammoeder ‘n agterkleindogter is van die nimlike Krotoa. Dit neem ons egter net tot c1641.

Progressief tot en verder terug as 1400 is daar ʼn groot afname in bruikbare inligting want data raak al minder, omdat kerke eers in die 15de eeu begin het om doop-, huwelik- en begrafnisinligting aan te teken. Die kans op verlies is ook groter.

Hierna kan mens probeer om na te vors of jy van Europese adelikes afstam. Op Geni is daar inderdaad aanduidings dat ek van Sweedse en Deense adelikes afstam. Ander lande is nog glad nie bekyk nie. Ek weet ook nie hoe betroubaar die inligting is nie.

Die volgende stap in diepafkomsnavorsing is om te kyk of jy van enige legendariese persone afstam. Ek glo nie dat ek dit sal oorweeg nie, want jy weet nie eers of daardie mense bestaan het nie. Selfs sommige adelike figure word inderdaad as "mithological" aangedui op Wikipedia. Voor mens Geni se inligting ernstig kan opneem sal meer as 2000 jaar se profiele ge-oudit moet word!

Dit laat Genetika, Geskiedkunde, Bevolkingsdinamika, Memetika, Antropologie en selfs Argeologie en Paleontologie as toeligtende dissiplines waarin belang gestel kan word. Ek gebruik geskiedenis inderdaad om mense in my notas te kontekstualiseer.

Genetika is die belangrikste dissipline wat mens nog met ander indvidue koppel. Ek het hierdie toetse (deur FT-DNA) al in Sept 2018 laat doen, maar nog min bestudeer. Ek kan nog nie intelligent saampraat nie. Tot dan gaan ek ook nie die data in detail deel nie.

My Y-DNA toets koppel my met die stamvader en sy pa. Ek is dus ‘n egte Swanepoel en daar was nie ‘n “onbehoorlikheid” langs die pad nie! :-)

Kaarte op die Y-DNA - Ancestral Origins toon een konflik met die tradisionele rekord-gebaseerde navorsing, naamlik sterk “British Isles” afkoms (nie noodwendig van Engeland self nie). Belgiese afkoms is hoog en in lyn met die rekords. Sover het ek nog nie ‘n duidelik-identifiseerbare persoon uit die Britse Eilande gevind nie. Daar moes dus ‘n migrasie van my familie lank voor die tyd van rekords plaasgevind het. Ek weet van geen massamigrasie in der voege in die geskiedenis nie. Dit kan van die Britse Eilande na België, Duitsland of enige van die lande van die sekondêre vroulike lyne (oumas, oumagrootjies ens) gewees het of moontlik ‘n gesamentlike impak van baie lyne wees. Dit sal alles bekyk moet word.

My “Ancient European Origins” is 15% Metal Age Invader, 41% Farmer, 40% Hunter-Gatherer en 4% Non-European. Die wyer konteks hiervan is verdere uitdagings om te bestudeer. Om dit reg te kry sal my sterfdatum en sterfouderdom hier op Geni iets moet lees soos 31 Dec 2100 (142) . :-(

Erkenning aan Prof Andre Buys vir die fassinerende praatjie oor diepafkomsnavorsing (NTvl-takbyeenkoms, Saterdag 13 April 2019. 'n Boek is in wording.

Ek het tot op hede (2020-12-14) 626 profiele bygevoeg en 42 stamouerpare as sulks aangedui. Sommige is as nuwe takke bygevoeg, ander is as sulks bevind deur navorsing wat nog nie gedoen was nie en die profielskeppers dit dus nie so beskou het nie. Hierdie persone is nie familie nie maar my belangstelling is uit ander oorde, meesal werksverwant. Daar is nog 'n aantal immigrante, 19de tot 20ste eeue onder oorweging, maar data ontbreek.

Hulle is as volg, alfabeties volgens die stamvader se van:

• Albert William Josia(h) Atkinson, SV/PROG X Elizabeth Margaretha Fransina Keuler, SM
• Mato Bantiç, SV/PROG X Jaka NN SM/PROG
• Josephus Bernardus Cornelis Antonius Besseling, SV/PROG X Florence Hortense te Water Naude, SM
• Rudolph August Michael Bigalke SV/PROG X Sophia Francisca Bauer SM/PROG
• George Bizos, SV/PROG X Arethe Ekaterine Daflos SM
• John Andrew Blair, SV/PROG X Eliza Bullinger, SM/PROG
• Charles Bovey, SV/PROG X Edith Grace Hosking, SM/PROG
• George Edward Cory SV/PROG X Gertrude Blades, SM/PROG
• Henry Charles Curson, SV/PROG X Constance Emilie Blair, SM
• Hendricus Petrus de Boom, SV/PROG X Carolina Magdalena Lotz, SM
• Jan de Graad, SV/PROG X Nicolaas Marthinus ♀ Janse van Rensburg, SM
• Alexander Edington, SV/PROG and Violet Patullo Smith Powrie, SM/PROG
• Hermann Theodor Graf, SV/PROG and Marie Bertha Antoinette Federle, SM/PROG
• Friedrich Wilhelm Huchzermeyer, SV/PROG X Hildegard Frieda Auguste Käte Gräfe, SM/PROG
• Duncan Hutcheon, SV/PROG X PN NN [1]
• John Ireland, SV/PROG X Anna Margaretha Snyman SM
• Wilhelm Jan Lütjeharms, SV/PROG X Antje Marijtje Bloemendaal SM/PROG
• Johannes Mahne SV/PROG X Elizabeth Susanna van den Heever SM
• John Henry McDuling, SV/PROG X Magdalena Elisabeth Maria Olivier SM1 XX Hester Susanna Visagie SM2
• Carl August Mönnig SV/PROG X Albertine Luise Ritter, SM/PROG
• John Nelson Naylor, SV/PROG X Mildred Florence Rampton SM/PROG
• Alexander Jeremiah Orenstein SV/PROG X Kate Bradbury SM
• Hendrikus Philippus Josef Pasch SV/PROG X Johanna Maria Magdalena Schutte, SM
• Heinz Pflügler, SV/PROG X Catharina Christina Berry Hertzog NN, SM/PROG
• Gerrit Herminus Ribbink SV/PROG and Henriette Cornelia Minette van Lier, SM/PROG
• Hermann Ferdinand Röhm, SV/PROG X Catharina Christina Janse van Rensburg, SM
• Albert Johan Elise Sorgdrager SV/PROG. X Isabella Hendrieka Cornelia Oranje Minnaar SM
• Bauke Tjibbe Spoelstra, SV/PROG X Gerbreg Henriëtta Alida Lub, SM/PROG
• Adolf Heinrich Söhnge, SV/PROG X Marie Kuhlman, SM/PROG
• Lammert Hendrik Stavast, SV/PROG X Antonia Cornelia Weijers, SM
• Hendrik Johan Stolk, SV/PROG 4 X Johanna NN, SM/PROG
• Arnold Theiler, SV/PROG X Emma Sophie Jegge, SM/PROG
• Johannes Teunis Marie Vahrmeyer, SV/PROG and Jannetjie Dolieslager, SM/PROG
• Ette Wever, SV/PROG X Wiepkje Attema, SM/PROG
• Pieter van Drimmelen, SV/PROG X Maria Elizabeth Gastman, SM/PROG
• Jacobus van Marle SV/PROG X Hester Aletta Botha SM [2]
• Anton Vierling, SV/PROG X Katharina Barbara Mueller, SM/PROG
• Johann Heinrich Vilter, SV/PROG X Maria Christina Lamprecht, SM
• Herbert Watkins-Pitchford, SV/PROG X May Emily Wilson, SM/PROG
• Wilfred Watkins-Pitchford, PROG X Olive Mary Nicholl, SM/PROG
• Joseph Porter Wishart, SV/PROG X Elizabeth Mary Jane Mahon, SM
• Daniel Wondergem, SV/PROG and Antje Meurs, SM/PROG

    * 1. Hutcheon vrou se identiteit is onbekend (2019-05-22) maar sekondêre bronne maak melding van 'n plaaslik gebore kind. 

    * 2. Daar is nie aan bestaande profiele verander nie weens bepaalde redes.

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