Heinrich I., Vogt von Westerburg und Hachenburg

Who's Rorich 'The Little', Vogt von Hachenburg and Blankenburg's father?

(FROM: [1] Heinrich I, Vogt von Westerburg; [2] TO: (Step Father?) Hermann III, Graf von Virneburg pending the identity of 'Rorich'; [3] OR: Rorich von Blankenburg; [4] OR: Rorich's brother Christian von Blankenburg; and even another, [5] OR: Rorich von Utgenbach). [6] OR: Heinrich Herr zu von Sayn.

Dr. Thomas Bohn presents the question, is Heinrich the Son or 'Step-son' of Hermann III, von Virneburg because he cannot find any other sources (at that time) that would identify, who (Rorich) is and who is parents are.

Although there is another solution, having as much validity and that is (as heinous, as it sounds...), Ernst Heinrich II, von Virneburg is the same person as the Teutonic Knight, Heinrich von Ascheid-Hachenburg...? Well, maybe the Noble Lords 'von Blankenburg', along with the fact the Lords 'von Arscheid' both have a long-standing and very strong ties with the Order of Brethren of Teutonic Knights would substantiate the theory posed by Dr. Bohn- That of a Lord (Rorich or Christian), 'von Blankenburg' being Heinrich's father?

[1] Heinrich von Westerburg

The only connection that would prove Heinrich von Westerburg' to be the father, if he, himself, were a 'Weid-Neuenburg' or if the identity of his wife revealed she was of 'von Wied-Neuenburg of Sayn'. (NOTE (6-10-2013): It appears that Heinrich von Westerburg's mother is a Wied-Neuenburg- unless my original assumption is true about the identity of his wife. Could it be 'Rorich and Hedwig von Wied-Neuenburg' were in fact 'Heinrich von Westerburg's', wife's parents? If so, that would make more sense considering the Arscheid (Aerscheyt) family were Southern Brabants of the Aerschot lineage. For this to make sense, Heinrichs parents must be of Runkel-Aerschot lineage. This gives us a clue as to who his parents were... It's simple deductive reasoning at this point. Which 'Runkel' and 'Aerschot' lineage is avail that could possibly be his 'Heinrich von Westerburg's' parents?

According to, 'Annalen des Vereins für Nassauische Alterthumskunde und Geschichtisforschung, Volumes 26-28 by Dr. Cary Coolidge', Heinrich I, von Westerburg is Rorich's father even displaying the genealogy.

Dr. Coolidge dates Heinrich (I.) von Westerburg born around or after (circa) 1200 - (1220?), while the current dates are of his death is c 1288.

D1. Heinrich I von Westerburg, +k.a.Worringen 1288; m.before VII.1267 Agnes von Isenburg (+after 1319).

===== Considering, 'Heinrich I, Vogt von Hachenburg' died in the year 1286, that would mean his Grandfather outlived him. Even though it's likely, Heinrich von Arscheid (Vogt von Hachenburg) died early in life, it remains a mathematical improbability. It would be more believable that Heinrich would be 'Heinrich von Westerburg' as well.=====

Dr. Coolidge dates Heinrich II (III.?) von Arscheid (Vogt von Hachenburg) death around (circa) 1270 (1271?) and Wed (No proof yet that they formally married at all), Irmgard producing an 'Illegitimate' daughter Elisabeth von Arscheid (Canoness of St. Cacilia at Cologne).

Another issue with Dr. Coolidge's genealogy, is the fact that he lists 'Rorich, Vogt von Hackeneburg' as the father of 'Heinrich II (III.?) von Arscheid', when his mother is 'Heilwig von Schidderich' not 'Guda von Greiffenstein' (His Grandmother!).

No judgement against Dr. Coolidge (surely he wouldn't use the face of Academia to pose a lie...), he obviously, lacked the resources, to accurately tabulate the genealogy correctly and was, apparently, ignorant of that fact. Regardless, how he surmised his ideas, Dr Cary Coolidge was seriously misinformed and lacked all the facts.

Family Seal and Death Notice

Reads:

1286 September 20

Johann, Gobilin und Heinrich v. Arscheit, Ritter, und Mechtildis, ihre Schwester, geben zu ihrem und ihrer Eltern weiland Ritter Heinrich v. Arscheit und Helewiwis v. Schiderich Seelenheil ihre Zustimmung zu der von ihrer erwähnten Mutter der Kirche zu [Wald-]Breidbach (die dem Deutschen Haus gehört) gemachten letztwilligen Schenkung eines Zinses von 6 Pfund Wachs, haftend auf ihren Gütern zu Heidersbach, wofür eine täglich anzuzündende Kerze bei der Messe anzuschaffen sowie der Jahrtag ihrer genannten verstorbenen Eltern am St. Remigientag mit Vigil und Messen feierlich zu begehen ist. Auch schenken sie freiwillig der Kirche zu Breidbach die Güter zu Heidersbach mit allem Zugehör und Rechten.
Fonte da análise: Udo ARNOLD/Marian TUMLER, Die Urkunden des Deutschordenszentralarchivs in Wien. Regesten I-III (=Quellen und Studien zur Geschichte des Deutschen Ordens 60/I-III, Marburg 2006- 2009) Nr. 946

TRANSLATION

1286 September 20 Johann, Gobilin and Heinrich v. Arscheit, knights, and as well, their sister Mathild, and her parents give to your Knight Heinrich v. Arscheit Weiland and Helewiwis v. Schiderich souls mentioned her assent to their mother of the Church (forest- ]Breidbach (the German House) made testamentary donation of interest rate from 6 pound wax, adhesive on their goods to Heidersbach, what a daily buy anzuzundende candle to the fair as well as the anniversary of the deceased parents at St. Remigientag with Vigil and measure is to celebrate.

The Church also voluntarily give you the goods to Breidbach Heidersbach with all REL and right.

Fonte da análise: Udo Arnold/Marian Tumler, the documents of the Deutschordenszentralarchivs in Vienna.

Regesten I-III (=Quellen und Studien zur Geschichte des Deutschen Ordens 60/I-III, Marburg 2006- 2009) Nr. 946

'von Blankenburg' Genealogy

If we suppose that neither Christian of Blankenberg nor his brother Rorich of Blankenberg were the father Heinrich von Hachenburg and consider the fact (according to an archived record held by the Teutonic Order), that Heinrich von Arscheid, Vogt von Hachenburg died in 1286, something uncanny is revealed.

Notice in the Genealogy below that Dietrich I, Herr von Heinsburg und Blankenburg married to Johanna de Louvain have a child born who is reported to have died in 1287... More than a coincidence.

3.Heinrich, Herr zu Blankenburg und Löwenberg, d.ca 1258; m.1230 Agnes von Heinsberg, heiress of Heinsberg (d.1267)

3.1.Dietrich I, Herr von Heinsberg und Blankenberg, d.26 Jul 1303; m.ca 1253 Johanna of Louvain (d.1291)

3.1.1.Heinrich, d.1287

3.1.2.Gottfried I Hr von Heinsberg u.Blankenburg, d.2 Nov 1331; m.by 1299 Mechtild von Looz (d.20 May 1313)

Hermann III, von Virneburg Relation

(Gräfin Mechthild von Sayn (1200/03-1285): eine Studie zur rheinischen Geschichte und Kulter- By Thomas Bohn)

Ein (Stief?) Bruder jenes Ernst von Virneburg war der Edelherr Heinrich von Ascheid, der Vogt von Hechenburg (urkl. 1241-1271). Schon sein Vater, Rorich Vogt von Hachenburg (Urkl. 1215-1237), stand lange in Sayner Diensten.

(Possible 'step' brother?) Brother that was the Edelherr Heinrich Ernst von Virneburg Ascheid, Vogt of Hechenburg of (Urkl. 1241-1271). His father, Rorich Vogt of Hachenburg (Urkl. 1215-1237), long-standing belonged in services.

Best Translation

He must have been a brother or stepbrother:

A (step?)brother of this Ernst von Virneburg was the noble man Heinrich von Ascheid, the steward von/of Hachenburg (documental 1241-1271).

(Parenthetical, '(stief-step?)' by the author- Dr. Thomas Bohn)

Already his father, Rorich Vogt von Hachenburg (documental 1215-1237), has been long in his/Sayner service.

- In the service of Mathilde von Sayn.

- 1083 says that Rorich's identity is not clear, and to look Gensicke (1987), page 200. It also says that when they changed their job, their byname/surname could have changed.

Mathilde Grafin von Sayn

Sayn

Sayn was member of the Lower Rhenish-Westphalian Circle Estate (Regional Assembly), the Lordship of Blankenburg was Member of the Lower Saxonian Circle Estate (Niedersächsischer Reichskreis)

1246-47 Regent Dowager Countess Mechthilde von Wied-Neuenburg of Sayn, Castle and Town of Hachenburg, the Lordship of Blankenburg, The Borough of Freusburg, The Castle of Hilkenrod, the County of Hadamar, the Juristiction of Banne Maxsayn and all other rights of court belonging to the County of Sayn
1247-after 1283 Reigning Dowager Lady of Löwnstein and her other Dowry Lands
She was the second wife of Heinrich III von Sayn (1206-1246), known as "the fat" because he was more than 2,13 meters tall and very strong. In his will he had named her late sister-in-law, Adelhaid's four sons; Johannes, Count von Sponheim, Lord Heinrich zu Heinsberg, Lord Simon von Sponheim und Kreuznach and Count Eberhard von Sayn von Eberstein, as his sole heirs, and after a year she handed over the county and lands to them, with the right to her dowries for life. She was daughter of Count Lamtert von Wid-Neunburg and had no children. (D. after 1283).

TIMELINE

(The time period for these events reveal multiple Rorich's (maybe it appears, they are separate people rather than separate titles, by way of interpretation and transliteration) but, none-the-less, confirms that all possible were present- except for Heinrich von Westerburg)

As Guda the old Vögtin ( Advocata ) [wife of noble vassals Rorich the Little Hachenburg] sister of Rudolf of grasping stone, was at the site of the later to become monastery Marienstatt, where the branch was seen build a chapel and an altar , the country's Count Henry III tried. when he heard of Sayn thereof, with other noble and powerful 15 years to the approval of the Archbishop of Trier, in whose diocese was the place. 1227, the foundations were laid after the castle on the rock there [Nister] had been 16 years previously destroyed by Count Heinrich of Sayn. [Struck Cistercienserkloster 327. Remarks: Half Can, The Count of Sayn older S. 359 referred to as the wife Guda Rorichs].

Is the Marienplatz-rapporteurs boards informed Henry of Sayn have laid down the castle Nister 16 years before moving to the monks in 1227, so 1211/12. [Half Can, The older Counts of Sayn p 360 cited MRUB 3, 34, and Struck, Cisterzienserkloster No. 327 Gensicke. Country's history p. 197 laid the demolition of the castle in the time of the Guelph-Staufer Thor dispute over the turn of the century, or to the year 1206].

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1221 - first mention Hachenburger Petersburg

Archbishop Engelbert of Cologne permitted the monks Marie the Movement to. Onto the of Count Henry III settle donated by Sayn and his wife Mechthilde Good on the Nister [Ainvelde]. In this document is Roricus advocate parvus de Hackenberg called. [HHStA Wiesbaden 1032 Dept. No. 6a (Sublimis advocatia Saynische deduction against the monastery Marienstatt UB pp. 10 and 4,. Vogel, 690 S. description). Remarks: Söhngen p.3; Hunter, insights p 38 Note: After Ungrund p 5 § 8 city and department Hachenburg fiefs were at that time of the Archbishopric Cologne].

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27th February 1222

Count Heinrich of Sayn and his wife Mechthild passed to her salvation and that of their parents Abbot Hermann and the convent of Marienstatt their possession Nister ( Nistria ) to the brook ( iuxta rivulum ) of the same name with the rock ( syrups ), on the ruins of a castle ( castrum ) was, with the developed and undeveloped lands and accessories, so that the Abbey will be moved to this place. Furthermore, they have their Allod of Metternich to the Mosel 6 cartload of wine, to give it a vineyard, which extends to 10 cartloads of wine. Acta sunt hec ... 1221, indictione X in castro Blankenberg, III Kalendas Marcii.

[HHStA Wiesbaden Dept. 74, 8 [with multiple copies from different centuries]. Pressure: description, pp. 7f supplements. No.3. Advocatia, supplements p.8 No.7. Mittelrheinisches certificate Burch 3, pp. 171 # 180 [ more ]. Abstract: Struck Cistercienserkloster No.7. Abstract: Goerz, Mittelrheinische regests Nr.1559 2].

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27th February 1222

Archbishop Engelbert of Cologne, testified that Count Henry III. of Sayn and his wife Mechthild to their Seelheil and her parents her Allod on the Nister ( iuxta Nistriam rivulum ), that is how the creek and they have of the exhibitor as a fief in the hands of the abbot Herrmann and the Prior Conrad of Marienstatt Cistercian Order, who gave to the Convention has been transferred from one place to which he himself previously struggled with many inconveniences. The Count added that he. Allodien and all possessions of the Convention, under its power to engage in any violence and people will not oppress the monastery by doubts, taxes or other burdens The exhibitors from approved special affection for the members of the Cistercian Order, together with the cathedral of Cologne and the Upper this gift and takes the convent under the protection of St. Peter and his own seal of the issuer, the Cathedral, the cathedral dean, and the dean of the aforementioned Count and Countess. 

Delegated authority of Almighty God, the Virgin St. Mary, the apostles St. Peter and himself, he fixed it with the spell. Who is against it, forfeited to the satisfaction of the Church Pirates ( anathematis vinculo ). Acta sunt ... 1221 indictione decima, III Kalendas Marcii, omenica Reminiscere in castro Blankenberg. witnesses: Gerlach, dean of Zifflich, uncle of Count Bruno, dean of St. Cunibert, the provost of the monastery Sayn, Hermann, dean of St. Agnes, Ludolf, priest and monk of St. Peter Thal Wirich, Pleban in old churches, the noble Count Lothar von Wied, Kempenich Dietrich of Dietrich of Rosenau and its brother Henry, Konrad von Rennenberg, Rorich the Small Vogt ( advocate ) of Hachenburg ( Hackenberg ), Rorich and Christian of Blankenberg, Rorich Walbode, Dietrich von Ütgenbach, the ministry officials Rorich of Gebhardshain, Heidenreich of Limbach, Henry of Nauroth and many other . After this was confirmed in the palace of the exhibitor to Cologne with the consent of the exhibitor and superiors. 

About Delivery: HHStA Wiesbaden Dept. 74, No. 7 - Two Kop Pap (16Jh.) Dept. 74, 7a and b, the latter from a bid a copy of the Trans fixes. - Kop Pap (16th century) Div 74, 1368 p.9-11, Dept. 74, 1369 pp. 11r-v, authenticated in the 17th Century by the imperial notaries Gerlach Emert and Hermann Jungh, Dept. 74, 1380 - Kop Pap (17th century) Div 74, 1383 pp. 89r-90v and Div 74, 1370 p.6f.. - German translation Pap (17th century), Dept. 74, year 1380. -. Kop Pap (18th century), Dept. 74, I 10 pp. 19v-20v There must be a date after the Marian year since 1222, but not 1221, the 27th February to Sunday fell Reminiscere. The year 1222 also fits the Indiktionszahl.  Prints: report truthful counter supplement J (2nd edition S.37f.); description, supplements 6f. No.3; Advocatia, supplements S.9f, No.8, Demonstrate, supplements S.3f. No.2 and 3 Mittelrheinisches deed book 181.  regests: Struck Cistercienserkloster No.8, Goerz, Mittelrheinische regests Nr.1569 and Knipping 3/1 345.

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1227

Henry, Lord of Isenburg, testified that he sake of divine reward and so on Marienstatt monastery the memory of his soul, his wife Matilda, by Bert Elina [daughter?] As well as that of his parents is committed Marienstatt Monastery in the town of Limburg freed from all customs. Seal of the exhibitor. Actum anno ... 1227 Same date in loco, ubi sita est nunc ecclesia ...  Before Mr. Heinrich Graf von Sayn, Siegfried von Runkel, Rorich Vogt ( advocato ) of Hachenburg ( Haggynberg ) , Rorich, Steward ( dapifero ) , Christian von Blankenburg, Conrad, abbot of the monastery, Peter, Prior, Rorich Gen. of the New Castle Walt Bude, Arnold, knight, called Ludolf and in many other clergy and laity. 

About Delivery: HHStA Wiesbaden fin Perg Div 74 No. 16 - Kop Pap (16th century), Dept. 74, No. 16a.  pressure: Well Stone, The age of the Abbey Church of S. Marie City 68  Abstract: Struck Cistercienserkloster # 18 (with further references).

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28th December 1234

Count Heinrich expressed von Sayn, that he, in hope of eternal reward, along with his wife Mechtild of obtaining grace and redemption of sins 20 bushels of corn, Hachenburger measure ( mensure de Hachenberg ) of the grain yield, of them each year from their mills at Hachenburg ( Hachenberg ) falls, has left the convent of monks in Marienstatt in Nister. One of these mills is the fishpond ( vivarium iuxta ), where the red river rises, the other at the Nister ( Nistriam ). How this gift will last permanently in the monastery, he shall be broken by the monks also, which he ordered to the glory of God, namely, that there are five people who are either priests or are suitable for carriage in this office are included, the there to serve God for him and think of this cereal interest are. 

Seal of the exhibitor, his wife, and the abbots of Heisterbach Marienstatt, also his sister of Sponheim. Acta sunt hec anno domini 1234 in the sanctorum Innocentium in Blankenberg. witnesses: the provosts Bruno St. Cunibert and Godefrid of St. George in Cologne, Mr. Godfrey, the Countess of Sponheim [the Count's sister], Countess of Stark Mountain, Henry (Arburg), Viscount of Cologne, and Mechtilde wife, the writer ( notarius ) Sifrid and his brother the priest Muticherus, Rorich Fist ( pinguis ), Christian Theodoric of Ütgenbach, the knight Theodoric of Geislar, the knight Godefried of Blankenberg, Heinrich Heppe book, the giver Ludewich, the knight Wipert of Blankenberg, Volcwin the basement of Hachenburg ( Volcwinus cellerarius de Hachenberch ) Heidenreich of Daun ( Tune ) and many others. 

[Evidence: HHStA Wiesbaden fin Perg Dept. 74, No. 19, with two seals. - Two Kopp. Pap (16th century) Dept. 74,19 a and b. - Kop Pap Dept. 74.1380, certified Hachenburg, 7 July 1741 by the saynischen on Archives Heinrich Friedrich Avemann.  Pressure: follow law, founded concerns Deduktionsschrift of 1744. P.38; Bayer, Eltester, Goerz 3, No. 510, S.396.  Abstract: Gorizia, Mittelrheinische regests II, S.560 No 2130 and Struck, Cistercienserkloster No.25].

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16th October 1241

Bishop W [ilhelm I of Diepholz] in Minden and the local cathedral chapter sell Count Heinrich of Sayn and his wife Mechthild all their people, property and rights in Reiterndorf [Hof bei Rhöndorf am Rhein] for 500 marks.  witnesses: Provost Dietrich, dean of the cathedral Gislebert, Provost Werner of St. Martin [Minden], provost Bodo St. Johann [Minden], cantor Bruno, Scholaster Widekind, Henry, waiter Walter, Henry, Justacius, Widekind, Ludolf, Dietrich, Heinrich Ludolf, Albert, Wedego Gerhard, Alexander, Earl [sic] [. Henri III] Arberg, the Viscount of Cologne, Gerhard Wildenburg [Kr Old churches], the reeve of Hachenburg ( Hakkinberg ) [Henry of Ascheid] , Ludwig Walpod, the brothers Gerhard and Arnold von Rennenberg, tapestry, Erich Heinrich spot [Holstein] and Heidenreich;, ex nostris Bernard of wages, Dietrich von Ekesen Lupold of Mandesle and Conrad of Ufflen. Herreke Data anno domini 1241 XVII Kalendas Novembris in the Galli.

. [Vers: HStA U. Cologne Cathedral Chapter 142 [1241 x 16]  Pressure: Lacomblet II, 259, Count Alexander, Sanysche Chronicles II, p.9 No. 10  Abstract: Bohn, Countess S. 492 No. 17 [ more ]  Remarks: with determination to Henry, the son of Little Rorich: Gensicke (1987), pp. 199 and Half Can, The elderly Count of Sayn p 343]

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1 January 1246

Count Henry III. Sayn, called the Great, died on 01.01.1246 without heirs. Castle and town Hachenburg were associated with ownership, as an ancient, feudal ancestors herrührendes of Count Henry, among other Lehnsstücken on Henry's sister Adelheid, married Countess of Sponheim, along with their four sons, born Count of Sponheim, over.

[HHStA Wiesbaden Dept. 340 1407 fol. 312].

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1 January 1246

Count Henry III. Sayn, called the Great, died on 01.01.1246 without heirs. Castle and town Hachenburg were associated with ownership, as an ancient, feudal ancestors herrührendes of Count Henry, among other Lehnsstücken on Henry's sister Adelheid, married Countess of Sponheim, along with their four sons, born Count of Sponheim, over.

[HHStA Wiesbaden Dept. 340 1407 fol. 312].

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1246

A lock VND instead of Graff shaft Sain / so after tödtlichem decease Graff Henrich zu Sayn / the Great called in 1246 / next to other Lehnsstücken auff erstgedachten Henrici Magni's sister Adelheid / married Countess Spanheim / and by dieselb dero four sons / All Born Count been to Spanheim / devolvirt / assets ETFS Testamentlicher disposition. Vnder this letztgemelten four brothers / was one of the oldest name Johann / which could hinder two sons / nemblich Henrichen peace and God. Reqs this letztgemelten Graffen / brother They came in averaging in 1246 gemeltes Hachenburg with its appurtenances.

[Evidence: Matt. Merian: Topographia Hassiae et Regionum Vicinarum. Ffm page 47 From: Schneider, S. Contributions 7f].

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1246

Been castle and town in the county of Sayn, so in 1246 after the death of Count Heinrich of Sayn the Great called, among other Lehnstücken on Henry's sister Adelheid, married Countess of Sponheim, and by the same their four sons, Count of Sponheim devolviert, assets ETFS testamentary disposition. The oldest of the four, John left behind two sons, Henry and Godfrey. Gottfried came on in the division of 1264 Hachenburg brothers and accessories.

[Merian: Topographia Germaniae Hesse ... P.81.]

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1246

Archive Note: A sealed envelope, in which Mrs. Mechtild, formerly Countess of Sayn, confesses what form their Lord and husband Count Henry III. etc. made of Sayn a will, dated 1246, is written in Latin.

[HHStA Wiesbaden Dept. 340 files No. 41, fol. 32]

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1246

Kurtz but wolgegründete refute their supposed Cölln Informativae deductionis Hachenburg loaded quietly therein concerning the Count's house, and the Lord's agnates, jus insonderheit Graff Christian zu Sayn and Wittgenstein and gerechtsamb to the Schhloß and instead Hachenburg with its pertinentien and here about jurisdiction utile dominium Inc which issued actis prove and the wiedrige is abgelehnet with identificati rightful.

[This p.3]: Castle and City Hachenburg including accessories, are from the times of Henry the Great, Count of Sayn, who died in 1246 has been occupied and owned by the Counts of Sayn as a fief. This is also evident from the division of 1647. [There followed a detailed ownership history with the key people].

[Evidence: HHSTAW Abt 1001 No. 634]

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Christmas 1246

Count Heinrich of Sayn should decreed that his wife could take some of the products bought by him together with Gartnes Gebäulichkeiten of Cologne, when they will have children, in itself, otherwise the whole property fall victim to the local monastery [Sion].

[From the monastery of Sion Cartular] [ more ]

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13th January 1247

Countess Matilda of Sayn sold various goods to the monastery in Meinerzhagen. [ more ]

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10th August 1247

Committed Gerhard Mr. Wildenburg that Count Adolf of Berg has instructed him man fief of 15 marks on the Herbstbede in Gummersbach and praised him assistance against the Counts of Sponheim, and every other, the Archbishop of Cologne and the Countess [Matilda] from sayn excluded. [ more ]

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29th August 1247

Matilda, Countess of Sayn, widow of Count Henry III. compares and is compatible with the brothers of Spanheim, Johann, Heinrich, Simon and Eberhard, the sons of the sister of her husband. Mechthildis ceded and are the brothers of Spanheim:

+ castrum et oppidum (castle and town) Blankenberg with all accessories  + castrum et oppidum (castle and town) Hackinberg cum Feudis attinentibus (including accessories)  + the fief castrum (castle) Freusburg  + the castrum (castle) Sayn with accessories  + the castrum Sassenburg  + Hülchrath the castle ( Hilcherodt ) with its Pertinenzen  the county Hadamar +  + is the bailiwick of Bonn

For themselves Mechtildis retains all Allode and inheritances that had belonged to her late husband, as well as the allodial and feudal estates, the Count Henry as her jointure ( stunte matrimonio had) provided, then the Lion Castle for life, just as the house that her had erected husband Blankenberg, the bailiwick to Hennef ( Hünneff ), as is to be built monastery Herchenhainer, as well as hunting, fishing, as well as civil and criminal matters, such as contract further identifies such. 

Guarantors were: Count Eberhard of Eberstein, Count Heinrich of Cologne, Philipp Wildenburg, Henricus advocate de Hachenburg ., Ernst von Virneburg, Gyselbertus of Sayn, Hermann von Winter, Thomas de Sittert. 

Witnesses were: brother Gerhard Diez, Gottfried and Gerlach, brothers of Ütgenbach ( Othenbach ), Walpode, Gerhard of race mountain tapestry of Blankenberg, Tilmannus of the gate ( Porta de ), Henricus de Thunis, including Acta sunt haec solemniter oppido Blanckenberg anno domini 1247 in the decollationis Joannis Baptistae . 

[Evidence: HHStA Wiesbaden Abt 340 files No. 41, fol. 32-32v; HHSTA Wiesbaden Dept. 340 files No 1009 a Latin copy.  Pressure: Günther, Codex dipl. 216 S. No. 119 Note: This letter was Latin vidimiert 1280 by the Cologne Archbishop Siegfried]. [ more ]

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29th August 1247

The brothers of Spanheim, namely Count Johann Heinrich of Mr. Heinberg [at Aachen], Simon and Eberhard get to Blankenberg by her aunt Mechthild von Sayn, the widow of her uncle, Count Henry III. of Sayn, on their and their friends request alone following fief, although Mechthild should this have for life under the terms of the will: castle and town of Blankenburg, with associated fief, castle and town Hachenburg ( castrum et oppidum Haccenberg ) with associated fief Freusburg as a fief of the Countess Sayn Castle with accessories, the castles and Saffenberg Hülchrath with all the fiefs, the court rule ( comitiam ?) and Hadamar Bailiwick of Bonn and all counties and bailiwicks, who owned the uncle. Mechthild because the exhibitors meted out so freely and generously this benefit, they left the castle Mechthild Lion Castle / Bad Honnef as a dower house, house and yard and Blankenberg to consent to the monastery Foundation Herchenhainer. The higher court exercises any of his judicial district. Finally, they ask for what they assumed obligations Count Eberhard the elders of Eberstein, the Viscount Henry [Arberg] of Cologne, Philip Lord of Wildenburg [-Reifferscheid], Henry [of Ascheid] Vogt of Hachenburg ( Heinricus advocate de Hackinberg ), Ernst von Virneburg, Giselbert of Sayn, Hermann of King Winter and Thomas Sittart as guarantor of the obligation to putaway in the village of Linz, which is part of the Countess. 

Among the witnesses Gottfried and Gerlach of Ütgenbach, Walpod, Gerhard von Rennenberg, tapestry v on Blankenberg, Dietrich of the gate (de porta) and Heidenreich of Tünnen ( de Thunis). Acta sunt hec solempniter aput Blankinberg anno domini 1247 in St. John the Baptist decollationis . 

[Evidence: A: 30 LHAKo Order No. 6153 [1247 VIII 29/2a. B: LHA Ko Order 33 Nr.15002 [1247 VIII 29/2b] obtained as the cover of a book interest rate for the office Kastellaun concurrent copy. C: LHAKo 30 Order No. 6792 [1260 XII 8], Vidimus by Archbishop Conrad of Cologne. D: LHAKo 55 A2 Order No. 20 [1277 I 18] Vidimus by Albertus Magni. E: 30 LHAKo Order No. 6796 Vidmus by Archbishop Siegfried of Cologne 1280.  pressure. besides many Sayn Deductionsschriften 17th and 18 CENTURY; Lünig, National Archives 23, 982; Günther. Cod 2,216; Reisach, Archive 2, 260; Bayer, Eltester, Goerz 3, S.681ff. Ranked # 912; CRM II, 119.  regests: Böhn, Countess S. 501 No. 29 [Calendar entry with all the details]; Mötsch, summaries Sponheim 1, pp. 74ff. No.22,. Georgian 1, 1056;. Wauters 4, 503, Goerz, Mittelrheinische regests III, p.126 556. Note: On the same day the brothers promise in another document [not listed in Mötsch] the Countess that they want to exchange the of her uncle bequeathed to the Teutonic Order at Sayn Castle against other goods within 3 years (Orig in Koblenz pressure. Günther 2,222; Reisach, archive 2,266; Mittelrheinisches Deed Book 3, 684 See Lehmann, Spanh 1.34)]..

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1248

Archbishop of Cologne, Konrad takes from the time of the Count Heinrich of Sayn and his wife Mechthild gestifftete monastery Blankenberg Catharinen with the chapel and the farm Zissendorf in his protection. [ more ]

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March 1249- END

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Possible father's Rorich or his brother Christian, von Blankenburg

Meines Erachtens wurde seine bisher noch nicht in Betract gezogene Identitat mit dem Sayner Lehnsmann Rorich von Blankenburg angesichts des nicht so seltenen Beinamenwechsels bei Anderung der Amtsstellung, die in den Sayner Urkunden chronologisch damit genau ubereinstimmend nur vorher bezeugt ist (Nrr. 1, 5, 7, 15), einige genealogische Ungereimtheiten auflosen.

(Sayner- Under Oath of Mathilde Grafin von Sayn)

I think it was his identity has not yet been drawn to segregate belonged with the vassal Rorich von Blankenburg in view of the not so rare in amendment of the Amtsstellung Beinamenwechsels, belonged in the documents chronologically so that exactly match is only previously witnessed (No. 1, 5, 7, 15), some genealogical inconsistencies dissolve.

Possible father, Rorich von Utgenbach (Othenbach/Ottenbach)

TIMELINE RECORD LINK:

http://www.stadtarchiv-hachenburg.de/archiv/abt-a-stadtgeschichte/a...

TEUTONIC DEATH NOTICE LINK

(The original 'Signed' and 'Sealed' document (personally, by the family, 'von Arscheid) has been scanned and uploaded to this online archive)

http://www.mom-ca.uni-koeln.de/mom/AT-DOZA/Urkunden/946/charter?_la...

[1] HEINRICH LINK

http://books.google.com/books?id=b84-AAAAYAAJ&pg=RA2-PA46&lpg=RA2-P...

[3] RORICH LINK:

(Reference Note '1083', Pg. 270)

http://books.google.com/books?id=iJhFxWQsEYMC&pg=PA270&lpg=PA270&dq...

[4] CHRISTIAN LINK:

http://books.google.com/books?id=iJhFxWQsEYMC&pg=PA301&lpg=PA301&dq...

LINK TO RESOURCE OF PATRILINEAL DESCENT

LINK ONE: http://books.google.com/books?id=iJhFxWQsEYMC&pg=PA270&lpg=PA270&dq...

LINK TWO: http://books.google.com/books?id=iJhFxWQsEYMC&pg=PA301&lpg=PA301&dq...

JUSTIFIED NAME CHANGE

(FROM: [1] Heinrich I, Graf von Westerburg; [2] TO: (Step Father?) Hermann III, Graf von Virneburg pending the identity of 'Rorich'; [3] OR: Rorich von Blankenburg; [4] OR: Rorich's brother Christian von Blankenburg; and even another, [5] OR: Rorich von Utgenbach)

Dr. Thomas Bohn presents the question, is Heinrich the Son or 'Step-son' of Hermann III, von Virneburg because he cannot find any other sources (at that time) that would identify, who (Rorich) is and who is parents are.

Although there is another solution, having as much validity and that is (as heinous, as it sounds...), Ernst Heinrich II, von Virneburg is the same person as the Teutonic Knight, Heinrich von Ascheid-Hachenburg...? Well, maybe the Noble Lords 'von Blankenburg', along with the fact the Lords 'von Arscheid' both having a long standing and very strong ties with the Order of Brethren of Teutonic Knights would substantiate the theory posed by Dr. Bohn- That of a Lord (Rorich or Christian), 'von Blankenburg' being Heinrich's father?

Heinrich von Westerburg

The only connection 'von Westerburg' could be the father, would be if the identity of his wife revealed she was of 'von Wied-Neuenburg of Sayn'.

According to, 'Annalen des Vereins für Nassauische Alterthumskunde und Geschichtisforschung, Volumes 26-28 by Dr. Cary Coolidge', Heinrich I, von Westerburg is Rorich's father even displaying the genealogy.

Dr. Coolidge dates Heinrich (I.) von Westerburg born around or after (circa) 1200 - (1220?), while the current dates are of his death is c 1288.

D1. Heinrich I von Westerburg, +k.a.Worringen 1288; m.before VII.1267 Agnes von Isenburg (+after 1319).

===== Considering, 'Heinrich I, Vogt von Hachenburg' died in the year 1286, that would mean his Grandfather outlived him. Even though, it's likely, Heinrich von Arscheid (Vogt von Hachenburg) died early in life, it remains a mathematical improbability. It would be more believable that Heinrich would be 'Heinrich von Westerburg' as well.=====

Dr. Coolidge dates Heinrich II (III.?) von Arscheid (Vogt von Hachenburg) death around (circa) 1270 (1271?) and Wed (No proof yet that they formally married at all), Irmgard producing an 'Illegitimate' daughter Elisabeth von Arscheid (Canoness of St. Cacilia at Cologne).

Another issue with Dr. Coolidge's genealogy, is the fact that he lists 'Rorich, Vogt von Hackeneburg' as the father of 'Heinrich II (III.?) von Arscheid', when his mother is 'Heilwig von Schidderich' not 'Guda von Greiffenstein' (His Grandmother!).

No judgement against Dr. Coolidge (surely he wouldn't use the face of Academia to pose a lie...), he obviously, lacked the resources, to accurately tabulate the genealogy correctly and was, apparently, ignorant of that fact. Regardless, how he surmised his ideas, Dr Cary Coolidge was seriously misinformed and lacked all the facts.

Family Seal and Death Notice

Reads:

286 September 20

Johann, Gobilin und Heinrich v. Arscheit, Ritter, und Mechtildis, ihre Schwester, geben zu ihrem und ihrer Eltern weiland Ritter Heinrich v. Arscheit und Helewiwis v. Schiderich Seelenheil ihre Zustimmung zu der von ihrer erwähnten Mutter der Kirche zu [Wald-]Breidbach (die dem Deutschen Haus gehört) gemachten letztwilligen Schenkung eines Zinses von 6 Pfund Wachs, haftend auf ihren Gütern zu Heidersbach, wofür eine täglich anzuzündende Kerze bei der Messe anzuschaffen sowie der Jahrtag ihrer genannten verstorbenen Eltern am St. Remigientag mit Vigil und Messen feierlich zu begehen ist. Auch schenken sie freiwillig der Kirche zu Breidbach die Güter zu Heidersbach mit allem Zugehör und Rechten.
Fonte da análise: Udo ARNOLD/Marian TUMLER, Die Urkunden des Deutschordenszentralarchivs in Wien. Regesten I-III (=Quellen und Studien zur Geschichte des Deutschen Ordens 60/I-III, Marburg 2006- 2009) Nr. 946

TRANSLATION

1286 September 20 Johann, Gobilin and Heinrich v. Arscheit, knights, and as well, their sister Mathild, and her parents give to your Knight Heinrich v. Arscheit Weiland and Helewiwis v. Schiderich souls mentioned her assent to their mother of the Church (forest- ]Breidbach (the German House) made testamentary donation of interest rate from 6 pound wax, adhesive on their goods to Heidersbach, what a daily buy anzuzundende candle to the fair as well as the anniversary of the deceased parents at St. Remigientag with Vigil and measure is to celebrate.

The Church also voluntarily give you the goods to Breidbach Heidersbach with all REL and right.

Fonte da análise: Udo Arnold/Marian Tumler, the documents of the Deutschordenszentralarchivs in Vienna.

Regesten I-III (=Quellen und Studien zur Geschichte des Deutschen Ordens 60/I-III, Marburg 2006- 2009) Nr. 946

'von Blankenburg' Genealogy

If we suppose that neither Christian of Blankenberg nor his brother Rorich of Blankenberg were the father Heinrich von Hachenburg and consider the fact (according to archived record held by the Teutonic Order), that Heinrich von Arscheid, Vogt von Hachenburg died in 1286, something uncanny is revealed.

Notice in the Genealogy below that Dietrich I, Herr von Heinsburg und Blankenburg married to Johanna de Louvain have a child born who is reported to have died in 1287... More than a coincidence.

3.Heinrich, Herr zu Blankenburg und Löwenberg, d.ca 1258; m.1230 Agnes von Heinsberg, heiress of Heinsberg (d.1267)

3.1.Dietrich I, Herr von Heinsberg und Blankenberg, d.26 Jul 1303; m.ca 1253 Johanna of Louvain (d.1291)

3.1.1.Heinrich, d.1287

3.1.2.Gottfried I Hr von Heinsberg u.Blankenburg, d.2 Nov 1331; m.by 1299 Mechtild von Looz (d.20 May 1313)

Hermann III, von Virneburg Relation

(Gräfin Mechthild von Sayn (1200/03-1285): eine Studie zur rheinischen Geschichte und Kulter- By Thomas Bohn)

Ein (Stief?) Bruder jenes Ernst von Virneburg war der Edelherr Heinrich von Ascheid, der Vogt von Hechenburg (urkl. 1241-1271). Schon sein Vater, Rorich Vogt von Hachenburg (Urkl. 1215-1237), stand lange in Sayner Diensten.

(Possible 'step' brother?) Brother that was the Edelherr Heinrich Ernst von Virneburg Ascheid, Vogt of Hechenburg of (Urkl. 1241-1271). His father, Rorich Vogt of Hachenburg (Urkl. 1215-1237), long-standing belonged in services.

Best Translation

He must have been a brother or stepbrother:

A (step?)brother of this Ernst von Virneburg was the noble man Heinrich von Ascheid, the steward von/of Hachenburg (documental 1241-1271).

(Parenthetical, '(stief-step?)' by the author- Dr. Thomas Bohn)

Already his father, Rorich Vogt von Hachenburg (documental 1215-1237), has been long in his/Sayner service.

- In the service of Mathilde von Sayn.

- 1083 says that Rorich's identity is not clear, and to look Gensicke (1987), page 200. It also says that when they changed their job, their byname/surname could have changed.

Mathilde Grafin von Sayn

Sayn

Sayn was member of the Lower Rhenish-Westphalian Circle Estate (Regional Assembly), the Lordship of Blankenburg was Member of the Lower Saxonian Circle Estate (Niedersächsischer Reichskreis)

1246-47 Regent Dowager Countess Mechthilde von Wied-Neuenburg of Sayn, Castle and Town of Hachenburg, the Lordship of Blankenburg, The Borough of Freusburg, The Castle of Hilkenrod, the County of Hadamar, the Juristiction of Banne Maxsayn and all other rights of court belonging to the County of Sayn
1247-after 1283 Reigning Dowager Lady of Löwnstein and her other Dowry Lands
She was the second wife of Heinrich III von Sayn (1206-1246), known as "the fat" because he was more than 2,13 meters tall and very strong. In his will he had named her late sister-in-law, Adelhaid's four sons; Johannes, Count von Sponheim, Lord Heinrich zu Heinsberg, Lord Simon von Sponheim und Kreuznach and Count Eberhard von Sayn von Eberstein, as his sole heirs, and after a year she handed over the county and lands to them, with the right to her dowries for life. She was daughter of Count Lamtert von Wid-Neunburg and had no children. (D. after 1283).

TIMELINE

(The time period for these events reveal multiple Rorich's (maybe it appears, they are separate people rather than separate titles, by way of interpretation and transliteration) but, none-the-less, confirms that all possible were present- except for Heinrich von Westerburg)

As Guda the old Vögtin ( Advocata ) [wife of noble vassals Rorich the Little Hachenburg] sister of Rudolf of grasping stone, was at the site of the later to become monastery Marienstatt, where the branch was seen build a chapel and an altar , the country's Count Henry III tried. when he heard of Sayn thereof, with other noble and powerful 15 years to the approval of the Archbishop of Trier, in whose diocese was the place. 1227, the foundations were laid after the castle on the rock there [Nister] had been 16 years previously destroyed by Count Heinrich of Sayn. [Struck Cistercienserkloster 327. Remarks: Half Can, The Count of Sayn older S. 359 referred to as the wife Guda Rorichs].

Is the Marienplatz-rapporteurs boards informed Henry of Sayn have laid down the castle Nister 16 years before moving to the monks in 1227, so 1211/12. [Half Can, The older Counts of Sayn p 360 cited MRUB 3, 34, and Struck, Cisterzienserkloster No. 327 Gensicke. Country's history p. 197 laid the demolition of the castle in the time of the Guelph-Staufer Thor dispute over the turn of the century, or to the year 1206].

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1221 - first mention Hachenburger Petersburg

Archbishop Engelbert of Cologne permitted the monks Marie the Movement to. Onto the of Count Henry III settle donated by Sayn and his wife Mechthilde Good on the Nister [Ainvelde]. In this document is Roricus advocate parvus de Hackenberg called. [HHStA Wiesbaden 1032 Dept. No. 6a (Sublimis advocatia Saynische deduction against the monastery Marienstatt UB pp. 10 and 4,. Vogel, 690 S. description). Remarks: Söhngen p.3; Hunter, insights p 38 Note: After Ungrund p 5 § 8 city and department Hachenburg fiefs were at that time of the Archbishopric Cologne].

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27th February 1222

Count Heinrich of Sayn and his wife Mechthild passed to her salvation and that of their parents Abbot Hermann and the convent of Marienstatt their possession Nister ( Nistria ) to the brook ( iuxta rivulum ) of the same name with the rock ( syrups ), on the ruins of a castle ( castrum ) was, with the developed and undeveloped lands and accessories, so that the Abbey will be moved to this place. Furthermore, they have their Allod of Metternich to the Mosel 6 cartload of wine, to give it a vineyard, which extends to 10 cartloads of wine. Acta sunt hec ... 1221, indictione X in castro Blankenberg, III Kalendas Marcii.

[HHStA Wiesbaden Dept. 74, 8 [with multiple copies from different centuries]. Pressure: description, pp. 7f supplements. No.3. Advocatia, supplements p.8 No.7. Mittelrheinisches certificate Burch 3, pp. 171 # 180 [ more ]. Abstract: Struck Cistercienserkloster No.7. Abstract: Goerz, Mittelrheinische regests Nr.1559 2].

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27th February 1222

Archbishop Engelbert of Cologne, testified that Count Henry III. of Sayn and his wife Mechthild to their Seelheil and her parents her Allod on the Nister ( iuxta Nistriam rivulum ), that is how the creek and they have of the exhibitor as a fief in the hands of the abbot Herrmann and the Prior Conrad of Marienstatt Cistercian Order, who gave to the Convention has been transferred from one place to which he himself previously struggled with many inconveniences. The Count added that he. Allodien and all possessions of the Convention, under its power to engage in any violence and people will not oppress the monastery by doubts, taxes or other burdens The exhibitors from approved special affection for the members of the Cistercian Order, together with the cathedral of Cologne and the Upper this gift and takes the convent under the protection of St. Peter and his own seal of the issuer, the Cathedral, the cathedral dean, and the dean of the aforementioned Count and Countess. 

Delegated authority of Almighty God, the Virgin St. Mary, the apostles St. Peter and himself, he fixed it with the spell. Who is against it, forfeited to the satisfaction of the Church Pirates ( anathematis vinculo ). Acta sunt ... 1221 indictione decima, III Kalendas Marcii, omenica Reminiscere in castro Blankenberg. witnesses: Gerlach, dean of Zifflich, uncle of Count Bruno, dean of St. Cunibert, the provost of the monastery Sayn, Hermann, dean of St. Agnes, Ludolf, priest and monk of St. Peter Thal Wirich, Pleban in old churches, the noble Count Lothar von Wied, Kempenich Dietrich of Dietrich of Rosenau and its brother Henry, Konrad von Rennenberg, Rorich the Small Vogt ( advocate ) of Hachenburg ( Hackenberg ), Rorich and Christian of Blankenberg, Rorich Walbode, Dietrich von Ütgenbach, the ministry officials Rorich of Gebhardshain, Heidenreich of Limbach, Henry of Nauroth and many other . After this was confirmed in the palace of the exhibitor to Cologne with the consent of the exhibitor and superiors. 

About Delivery: HHStA Wiesbaden Dept. 74, No. 7 - Two Kop Pap (16Jh.) Dept. 74, 7a and b, the latter from a bid a copy of the Trans fixes. - Kop Pap (16th century) Div 74, 1368 p.9-11, Dept. 74, 1369 pp. 11r-v, authenticated in the 17th Century by the imperial notaries Gerlach Emert and Hermann Jungh, Dept. 74, 1380 - Kop Pap (17th century) Div 74, 1383 pp. 89r-90v and Div 74, 1370 p.6f.. - German translation Pap (17th century), Dept. 74, year 1380. -. Kop Pap (18th century), Dept. 74, I 10 pp. 19v-20v There must be a date after the Marian year since 1222, but not 1221, the 27th February to Sunday fell Reminiscere. The year 1222 also fits the Indiktionszahl.  Prints: report truthful counter supplement J (2nd edition S.37f.); description, supplements 6f. No.3; Advocatia, supplements S.9f, No.8, Demonstrate, supplements S.3f. No.2 and 3 Mittelrheinisches deed book 181.  regests: Struck Cistercienserkloster No.8, Goerz, Mittelrheinische regests Nr.1569 and Knipping 3/1 345.

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1227

Henry, Lord of Isenburg, testified that he sake of divine reward and so on Marienstatt monastery the memory of his soul, his wife Matilda, by Bert Elina [daughter?] As well as that of his parents is committed Marienstatt Monastery in the town of Limburg freed from all customs. Seal of the exhibitor. Actum anno ... 1227 Same date in loco, ubi sita est nunc ecclesia ...  Before Mr. Heinrich Graf von Sayn, Siegfried von Runkel, Rorich Vogt ( advocato ) of Hachenburg ( Haggynberg ) , Rorich, Steward ( dapifero ) , Christian von Blankenburg, Conrad, abbot of the monastery, Peter, Prior, Rorich Gen. of the New Castle Walt Bude, Arnold, knight, called Ludolf and in many other clergy and laity. 

About Delivery: HHStA Wiesbaden fin Perg Div 74 No. 16 - Kop Pap (16th century), Dept. 74, No. 16a.  pressure: Well Stone, The age of the Abbey Church of S. Marie City 68  Abstract: Struck Cistercienserkloster # 18 (with further references).

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28th December 1234

Count Heinrich expressed von Sayn, that he, in hope of eternal reward, along with his wife Mechtild of obtaining grace and redemption of sins 20 bushels of corn, Hachenburger measure ( mensure de Hachenberg ) of the grain yield, of them each year from their mills at Hachenburg ( Hachenberg ) falls, has left the convent of monks in Marienstatt in Nister. One of these mills is the fishpond ( vivarium iuxta ), where the red river rises, the other at the Nister ( Nistriam ). How this gift will last permanently in the monastery, he shall be broken by the monks also, which he ordered to the glory of God, namely, that there are five people who are either priests or are suitable for carriage in this office are included, the there to serve God for him and think of this cereal interest are. 

Seal of the exhibitor, his wife, and the abbots of Heisterbach Marienstatt, also his sister of Sponheim. Acta sunt hec anno domini 1234 in the sanctorum Innocentium in Blankenberg. witnesses: the provosts Bruno St. Cunibert and Godefrid of St. George in Cologne, Mr. Godfrey, the Countess of Sponheim [the Count's sister], Countess of Stark Mountain, Henry (Arburg), Viscount of Cologne, and Mechtilde wife, the writer ( notarius ) Sifrid and his brother the priest Muticherus, Rorich Fist ( pinguis ), Christian Theodoric of Ütgenbach, the knight Theodoric of Geislar, the knight Godefried of Blankenberg, Heinrich Heppe book, the giver Ludewich, the knight Wipert of Blankenberg, Volcwin the basement of Hachenburg ( Volcwinus cellerarius de Hachenberch ) Heidenreich of Daun ( Tune ) and many others. 

[Evidence: HHStA Wiesbaden fin Perg Dept. 74, No. 19, with two seals. - Two Kopp. Pap (16th century) Dept. 74,19 a and b. - Kop Pap Dept. 74.1380, certified Hachenburg, 7 July 1741 by the saynischen on Archives Heinrich Friedrich Avemann.  Pressure: follow law, founded concerns Deduktionsschrift of 1744. P.38; Bayer, Eltester, Goerz 3, No. 510, S.396.  Abstract: Gorizia, Mittelrheinische regests II, S.560 No 2130 and Struck, Cistercienserkloster No.25].

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16th October 1241

Bishop W [ilhelm I of Diepholz] in Minden and the local cathedral chapter sell Count Heinrich of Sayn and his wife Mechthild all their people, property and rights in Reiterndorf [Hof bei Rhöndorf am Rhein] for 500 marks.  witnesses: Provost Dietrich, dean of the cathedral Gislebert, Provost Werner of St. Martin [Minden], provost Bodo St. Johann [Minden], cantor Bruno, Scholaster Widekind, Henry, waiter Walter, Henry, Justacius, Widekind, Ludolf, Dietrich, Heinrich Ludolf, Albert, Wedego Gerhard, Alexander, Earl [sic] [. Henri III] Arberg, the Viscount of Cologne, Gerhard Wildenburg [Kr Old churches], the reeve of Hachenburg ( Hakkinberg ) [Henry of Ascheid] , Ludwig Walpod, the brothers Gerhard and Arnold von Rennenberg, tapestry, Erich Heinrich spot [Holstein] and Heidenreich;, ex nostris Bernard of wages, Dietrich von Ekesen Lupold of Mandesle and Conrad of Ufflen. Herreke Data anno domini 1241 XVII Kalendas Novembris in the Galli.

. [Vers: HStA U. Cologne Cathedral Chapter 142 [1241 x 16]  Pressure: Lacomblet II, 259, Count Alexander, Sanysche Chronicles II, p.9 No. 10  Abstract: Bohn, Countess S. 492 No. 17 [ more ]  Remarks: with determination to Henry, the son of Little Rorich: Gensicke (1987), pp. 199 and Half Can, The elderly Count of Sayn p 343]

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1 January 1246

Count Henry III. Sayn, called the Great, died on 01.01.1246 without heirs. Castle and town Hachenburg were associated with ownership, as an ancient, feudal ancestors herrührendes of Count Henry, among other Lehnsstücken on Henry's sister Adelheid, married Countess of Sponheim, along with their four sons, born Count of Sponheim, over.

[HHStA Wiesbaden Dept. 340 1407 fol. 312].

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1 January 1246

Count Henry III. Sayn, called the Great, died on 01.01.1246 without heirs. Castle and town Hachenburg were associated with ownership, as an ancient, feudal ancestors herrührendes of Count Henry, among other Lehnsstücken on Henry's sister Adelheid, married Countess of Sponheim, along with their four sons, born Count of Sponheim, over.

[HHStA Wiesbaden Dept. 340 1407 fol. 312].

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1246

A lock VND instead of Graff shaft Sain / so after tödtlichem decease Graff Henrich zu Sayn / the Great called in 1246 / next to other Lehnsstücken auff erstgedachten Henrici Magni's sister Adelheid / married Countess Spanheim / and by dieselb dero four sons / All Born Count been to Spanheim / devolvirt / assets ETFS Testamentlicher disposition. Vnder this letztgemelten four brothers / was one of the oldest name Johann / which could hinder two sons / nemblich Henrichen peace and God. Reqs this letztgemelten Graffen / brother They came in averaging in 1246 gemeltes Hachenburg with its appurtenances.

[Evidence: Matt. Merian: Topographia Hassiae et Regionum Vicinarum. Ffm page 47 From: Schneider, S. Contributions 7f].

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1246

Been castle and town in the county of Sayn, so in 1246 after the death of Count Heinrich of Sayn the Great called, among other Lehnstücken on Henry's sister Adelheid, married Countess of Sponheim, and by the same their four sons, Count of Sponheim devolviert, assets ETFS testamentary disposition. The oldest of the four, John left behind two sons, Henry and Godfrey. Gottfried came on in the division of 1264 Hachenburg brothers and accessories.

[Merian: Topographia Germaniae Hesse ... P.81.]

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1246

Archive Note: A sealed envelope, in which Mrs. Mechtild, formerly Countess of Sayn, confesses what form their Lord and husband Count Henry III. etc. made of Sayn a will, dated 1246, is written in Latin.

[HHStA Wiesbaden Dept. 340 files No. 41, fol. 32]

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1246

Kurtz but wolgegründete refute their supposed Cölln Informativae deductionis Hachenburg loaded quietly therein concerning the Count's house, and the Lord's agnates, jus insonderheit Graff Christian zu Sayn and Wittgenstein and gerechtsamb to the Schhloß and instead Hachenburg with its pertinentien and here about jurisdiction utile dominium Inc which issued actis prove and the wiedrige is abgelehnet with identificati rightful.

[This p.3]: Castle and City Hachenburg including accessories, are from the times of Henry the Great, Count of Sayn, who died in 1246 has been occupied and owned by the Counts of Sayn as a fief. This is also evident from the division of 1647. [There followed a detailed ownership history with the key people].

[Evidence: HHSTAW Abt 1001 No. 634]

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Christmas 1246

Count Heinrich of Sayn should decreed that his wife could take some of the products bought by him together with Gartnes Gebäulichkeiten of Cologne, when they will have children, in itself, otherwise the whole property fall victim to the local monastery [Sion].

[From the monastery of Sion Cartular] [ more ]

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13th January 1247

Countess Matilda of Sayn sold various goods to the monastery in Meinerzhagen. [ more ]

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10th August 1247

Committed Gerhard Mr. Wildenburg that Count Adolf of Berg has instructed him man fief of 15 marks on the Herbstbede in Gummersbach and praised him assistance against the Counts of Sponheim, and every other, the Archbishop of Cologne and the Countess [Matilda] from sayn excluded. [ more ]

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29th August 1247

Matilda, Countess of Sayn, widow of Count Henry III. compares and is compatible with the brothers of Spanheim, Johann, Heinrich, Simon and Eberhard, the sons of the sister of her husband. Mechthildis ceded and are the brothers of Spanheim:

+ castrum et oppidum (castle and town) Blankenberg with all accessories  + castrum et oppidum (castle and town) Hackinberg cum Feudis attinentibus (including accessories)  + the fief castrum (castle) Freusburg  + the castrum (castle) Sayn with accessories  + the castrum Sassenburg  + Hülchrath the castle ( Hilcherodt ) with its Pertinenzen  the county Hadamar +  + is the bailiwick of Bonn

For themselves Mechtildis retains all Allode and inheritances that had belonged to her late husband, as well as the allodial and feudal estates, the Count Henry as her jointure ( stunte matrimonio had) provided, then the Lion Castle for life, just as the house that her had erected husband Blankenberg, the bailiwick to Hennef ( Hünneff ), as is to be built monastery Herchenhainer, as well as hunting, fishing, as well as civil and criminal matters, such as contract further identifies such. 

Guarantors were: Count Eberhard of Eberstein, Count Heinrich of Cologne, Philipp Wildenburg, Henricus advocate de Hachenburg ., Ernst von Virneburg, Gyselbertus of Sayn, Hermann von Winter, Thomas de Sittert. 

Witnesses were: brother Gerhard Diez, Gottfried and Gerlach, brothers of Ütgenbach ( Othenbach ), Walpode, Gerhard of race mountain tapestry of Blankenberg, Tilmannus of the gate ( Porta de ), Henricus de Thunis, including Acta sunt haec solemniter oppido Blanckenberg anno domini 1247 in the decollationis Joannis Baptistae . 

[Evidence: HHStA Wiesbaden Abt 340 files No. 41, fol. 32-32v; HHSTA Wiesbaden Dept. 340 files No 1009 a Latin copy.  Pressure: Günther, Codex dipl. 216 S. No. 119 Note: This letter was Latin vidimiert 1280 by the Cologne Archbishop Siegfried]. [ more ]

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29th August 1247

The brothers of Spanheim, namely Count Johann Heinrich of Mr. Heinberg [at Aachen], Simon and Eberhard get to Blankenberg by her aunt Mechthild von Sayn, the widow of her uncle, Count Henry III. of Sayn, on their and their friends request alone following fief, although Mechthild should this have for life under the terms of the will: castle and town of Blankenburg, with associated fief, castle and town Hachenburg ( castrum et oppidum Haccenberg ) with associated fief Freusburg as a fief of the Countess Sayn Castle with accessories, the castles and Saffenberg Hülchrath with all the fiefs, the court rule ( comitiam ?) and Hadamar Bailiwick of Bonn and all counties and bailiwicks, who owned the uncle. Mechthild because the exhibitors meted out so freely and generously this benefit, they left the castle Mechthild Lion Castle / Bad Honnef as a dower house, house and yard and Blankenberg to consent to the monastery Foundation Herchenhainer. The higher court exercises any of his judicial district. Finally, they ask for what they assumed obligations Count Eberhard the elders of Eberstein, the Viscount Henry [Arberg] of Cologne, Philip Lord of Wildenburg [-Reifferscheid], Henry [of Ascheid] Vogt of Hachenburg ( Heinricus advocate de Hackinberg ), Ernst von Virneburg, Giselbert of Sayn, Hermann of King Winter and Thomas Sittart as guarantor of the obligation to putaway in the village of Linz, which is part of the Countess. 

Among the witnesses Gottfried and Gerlach of Ütgenbach, Walpod, Gerhard von Rennenberg, tapestry v on Blankenberg, Dietrich of the gate (de porta) and Heidenreich of Tünnen ( de Thunis). Acta sunt hec solempniter aput Blankinberg anno domini 1247 in St. John the Baptist decollationis . 

[Evidence: A: 30 LHAKo Order No. 6153 [1247 VIII 29/2a. B: LHA Ko Order 33 Nr.15002 [1247 VIII 29/2b] obtained as the cover of a book interest rate for the office Kastellaun concurrent copy. C: LHAKo 30 Order No. 6792 [1260 XII 8], Vidimus by Archbishop Conrad of Cologne. D: LHAKo 55 A2 Order No. 20 [1277 I 18] Vidimus by Albertus Magni. E: 30 LHAKo Order No. 6796 Vidmus by Archbishop Siegfried of Cologne 1280.  pressure. besides many Sayn Deductionsschriften 17th and 18 CENTURY; Lünig, National Archives 23, 982; Günther. Cod 2,216; Reisach, Archive 2, 260; Bayer, Eltester, Goerz 3, S.681ff. Ranked # 912; CRM II, 119.  regests: Böhn, Countess S. 501 No. 29 [Calendar entry with all the details]; Mötsch, summaries Sponheim 1, pp. 74ff. No.22,. Georgian 1, 1056;. Wauters 4, 503, Goerz, Mittelrheinische regests III, p.126 556. Note: On the same day the brothers promise in another document [not listed in Mötsch] the Countess that they want to exchange the of her uncle bequeathed to the Teutonic Order at Sayn Castle against other goods within 3 years (Orig in Koblenz pressure. Günther 2,222; Reisach, archive 2,266; Mittelrheinisches Deed Book 3, 684 See Lehmann, Spanh 1.34)]..

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1248

Archbishop of Cologne, Konrad takes from the time of the Count Heinrich of Sayn and his wife Mechthild gestifftete monastery Blankenberg Catharinen with the chapel and the farm Zissendorf in his protection. [ more ]

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March 1249- END

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Possible father's Rorich or his brother Christian, von Blankenburg

Meines Erachtens wurde seine bisher noch nicht in Betract gezogene Identitat mit dem Sayner Lehnsmann Rorich von Blankenburg angesichts des nicht so seltenen Beinamenwechsels bei Anderung der Amtsstellung, die in den Sayner Urkunden chronologisch damit genau ubereinstimmend nur vorher bezeugt ist (Nrr. 1, 5, 7, 15), einige genealogische Ungereimtheiten auflosen.

(Sayner- Under Oath of Mathilde Grafin von Sayn)

I think it was his identity has not yet been drawn to segregate belonged with the vassal Rorich von Blankenburg in view of the not so rare in amendment of the Amtsstellung Beinamenwechsels, belonged in the documents chronologically so that exactly match is only previously witnessed (No. 1, 5, 7, 15), some genealogical inconsistencies dissolve.

Possible father, Rorich von Utgenbach (Othenbach/Ottenbach)

TIMELINE RECORD LINK:

http://www.stadtarchiv-hachenburg.de/archiv/abt-a-stadtgeschichte/a...

TEUTONIC DEATH NOTICE LINK

(The original 'Signed' and 'Sealed' document (personally, by the family, 'von Arscheid) has been scanned and uploaded to this online archive)

http://www.mom-ca.uni-koeln.de/mom/AT-DOZA/Urkunden/946/charter?_la...

[1] HEINRICH LINK

http://books.google.com/books?id=b84-AAAAYAAJ&pg=RA2-PA46&lpg=RA2-P...

[3] RORICH LINK:

(Reference Note '1083', Pg. 270)

http://books.google.com/books?id=iJhFxWQsEYMC&pg=PA270&lpg=PA270&dq...

[4] CHRISTIAN LINK:

http://books.google.com/books?id=iJhFxWQsEYMC&pg=PA301&lpg=PA301&dq...

LINK TO RESOURCE OF PATRILINEAL DESCENT

LINK ONE: http://books.google.com/books?id=iJhFxWQsEYMC&pg=PA270&lpg=PA270&dq...

LINK TWO: http://books.google.com/books?id=iJhFxWQsEYMC&pg=PA301&lpg=PA301&dq...

Name Variations

Ascheid, Alschid, Arlcheid, Afcheid, Arfcheid, Arscot, d'Arscot, Arschott, Arscheid, Arscheyd, Arshceit, Arschett, Arschitt, Arscheyt, d'Arschott, d'Arscheid, d'Arshceit, d'Arschett, d'Arschitt, d'Arscheyt, Orschott Orscheid, Orscheyd, Orscheit, Orschett, Orschitt, Orscheyt, d'Orscheid, d'Orscheyd, d'Orscheit, d'Orschett, d'Orschitt, d'Orscheyt, Uilscheid, Uilscheit, Harshceidt, Aiyrscheyt, Auirschot,Oirschot and more...

'von Arscheid/Orscheid' - von Utgenbach family.

Wohnsitz der Herren von Ütgenbach und Arscheit (1216-1450)

Residence of the Lords of Ütgenbach and Arscheit (1216-1450)