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About Isabel de Ros

ISABEL DE ROS

Isabel de Ros is the second and youngest daughter of Robert de Ros of Wark. Calendar of Documents Relating to Scotland, iii, pp. 39-40 She reached her twelfth birthday during the year that began on 31 January 1306 and ended on 30 January 1307. It follows, therefore, that she was probably born during the year that began on 31 January 1294 and ended on 30 January 1295. Inquisitiones Post Mortem, inquisition number 427 on pp. 284-85 She and her older sister Margaret were evidently born and baptised in Scotland. Calendar of Documents Relating to Scotland, iii, p. 56

Marriage to John de Knockes

On 5 March 1310-11 the Bishop of Worcester informed Edward II, King of England, that John of Knockes and his wife Isabella, daughter of the deceased Robert de Ros of Werke, were claiming her share of her deceased father's lands in England and Scotland. Calendar of Documents Relating to Scotland, iii, pp. 39-40 On 30 July 1312 King Edward II commanded his escheator ultra Trent to give seisin of their share of the property to John Salvayn and his wife Margaret, the elder daughter of the the late Robert de Ros of Werk, but to retain the half pertaining to John de Knoches and his wife until further instructed. Ibidem, p. 56 The king's order was ineffective and a second order was issued on 20 February 1314. Calendar of the Close Rolls Preserved in the Public Records Office, Edward II. A.D. 1313-1318, p. 40

Proposed Marriage to William de Crechton

Proof positive is wanting but, according to Sir James Balfour Paul, it is generally supposed that it was Isabel de Ros here treated who married William Crichton of Sanquar. The Scots Peerage, III, page 53 It may be Isabel and her husband who are mentioned in a charter by which Robert I, King of Scots, confirms that he has given one half of the barony of Sanquar to Richard called Edger. The charter is undated but it belongs to the period 1315-21. John Maitland Thomson, LL.D. (editor), Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum. Register of the Great Seal of Scotland, A.S. 1396-1424, Appendix I, charter number 56 on page 456

Evidence from the National Records of England

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427. Margaret de Ros. Writ, 30 Jan. 35. Edw. I (1307). Westmorland. Inq. made at Appleby on Thursday before St. Gregory 35 Edw. I. Kendal. A moiety of the barony of Kendal, except the vale of Kentmer, held at one time of the king in chief by service of a knight's fee; out of which moiety of the barony she enfeoffed: - Roger de Lancastre of the vale of Ridale to hold of the king in chief by service of one quarter knight's fee, whereof he has the king's charter; William de Ros, her son, of the castle of Kirkeby in Kendal with a fourth part of the town of Kirkeby and with the hamlets of Hoton, Haye, Scalthaytrige, Stirkeland Randolf, and Grenrige, with 45 acres land of the demesne of Helsington, and the tenures of William son of Adam and Henry de Wytfalhevd in Hogayl, with the mills of the castle (?) (de castro), Hoton, Grenrige, Styrkland Randolfe and Dillaker, and a moiety of the mills of Patten Grarige and Respton, to hold of him and the heirs of his body, with remainder to Marmaduke de Thweng and his heirs, of the the king in chief by service of a miety of three parts of a knight's fee, whereof the said William has the king's charter of confirmation, and a fine was levied between him and the said Margaret, so that she had no fee or free tenement therein, Marmaduke Thweng of the manor of Helsington, except 45 acres of demesne, a fourth part of the town of Kyrkeby in Kendal with the hamlets of Hogayl and Stavelay except the tenures of William son of Adam and Henry de Wytfalhefud in Hogayl, a moiety of the hamlets of Crosthayth, Gresmer and Langden, and the mill of Helsington with a moiety of the mills of Crosthayth, Respton, Gresmer and Langden, to hold to him and the heirs of his body, with remainder to William de Ros and his heirs, of the king in chief by service of a moiety of three parts of a kinight's fee, whereof the said Marmaduke has the king's charter of confirmation, and a fine was levied between him and the said Margaret, so that she had no fee or free tenement therein. Margaret and Isabel, daughters of Robert de Ros of Werk, aged 15 and 12 respectively, are her next heirs in blood. C. Edw. I. File 126. (3.) Calendar of Inquisitiones Post Mortem and Other Anologous Documents Preserved in the Public Records Office, Vol. Iv. Edward I. (HMSO., London, 1912), inquisition number 427 on pp. 284-85

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Edward II. 5 March 1310-11: 199. The K. to W. bishop of Worcester, the chancellor. As John de Knockes the husband of Isabella daughter and one of the heirs of the late Robert de Ros of Werke, has asked his wife's purparty of her father's lands both in England and Scotland, and the K. hears that William son of Sir William de Ros of Hamelake is in possession of the manor of Werke, he commands that the sherrif of Northumberland be instructed to summon William to appear before the K. on the morrow of next Ascension Day, to shew cause whu he should not resign the lands to the claimants under conditions granted by the late K. to Sir John Comyn and his adherents. Berwick-on-Tweed [Privy Seals (Tower), 4 Edw. II. File 5.] Calendar of Documents Relating to Scotland Preserved in Her Majesty's Public Record Office, Vol. III, A.D. 1307-1357, pp. 39-40

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6 Edward II 30 July 1312: 282. The K. refering to the conditions on which his late father received John Comyn of Badenagh and his Scottish adherents to his peace - that the late Robert de Ros of Werk was among these, and John Salvayn and John de Knoches, the husbands of Margaret the first born and Isabella the younger (postnata) daughters and heirs of the said Robert, have represented that their wives were under age and entitled to the conditions of the peace with Comyn, and were born and baptized in Scotland, as proved before the Chancellor of Scotland by its laws and customs, and have offered their homage - commands the escheator ultra Trent to give John Salvayn, whose homage he has taken, and Margaret his wife, seisin of their property, being one half of Robert's lands, retaining the other half of John de Knoches and his wife till further instructions. London [Close, 6. Edward II. m. 29.] Ibidem, p. 56

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28 September 6 Edward II (1312): 396. Robert de Ros of Werk, a Scotch rebel, deceased. Writ of extent and partition, on petition of John Salveyn and John de Knoches and Margaret and Isabel their wives, daughters and heirs of the said Robert, that his lands, etc., may be rendered to them in accedance with the late King Edward's grant to John Comyn of Badenoch and other men of Scotland who were at war against him, the said Margaret and Isabel having been born in Scotland, and having proved their ages before William de Bevercotes, the King's Chancellor of Scotland, 28 Sept. 6 Edw. II.

Northumberland. Inq. Thursday after St. Scholastica, 6 Edw. II. Belcestre and Flaynemelore in Tyndale. The manors (full extent given), including a right of pasture (herbagium) called Le Haukstrothre, and shielings (scalinge) called Lynchele, Todholes, and Ramcshawes, were held by Margaret mother of the said Robert, on the day of his joining the King's enemies, viz. - part by way of dower and part in lieu of her third part of the lands of Le Senewhare in Scotland, and ought now to revert to the said Margaret and Isabel, whereupon John de Aleinscheiles, the sub-escheator, came to give seisin of the said manor of Belestre to the attorney of John Salvayn and Margaret his wife, as their pourparty of the said manors, but Thomas son of Eustace the forester of Belestre, with others unknown, held the capital messuage by force so that he could not execute his office.

Northumberland. Inq. taken at Morpeth on Thursday after St. Hilary, 6 Edw. II. John de Aleinscheiles, sub-escheator, having made extent and partitian of the lands, etc., of the said Robert and assigned pourparty to John Salvayn, came near the castle of Werk to deliver him seisin in the king's name, and there Simon le Warenner of Werk, and others (specified), by the counsel of Richard del Fermorie of Werk, arrested him on the king's high way, violently led him towards the Twede, and took from him all the king's writs, with extent, partition, and otherwarrants, and letters found upon him and his clerk, and returned to the castle of Werke, so that he cannot and dares not execute the king's mandate further. C. Edw. II. File 29 (9.) Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, number 396 on page 218

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20 February 1314: Canterbury. To John de Evre, escheator beyond the Trent. Order to make partition of the lands of Robert de Ros of Wark, deceased, a Scotch rebel of late king, in two parts in presence of his heirs, if they choose to attend, and to cause John Salvayn and Margaret his wife, the eldest daughter of the said Robert, to have seisin of her puparty as her esnecy, retaining in the king's hands the puparty of John de Knoches and Isabella his wife, the youngest daughter of the said Robert, the said Margaret and Isabella, who were born and baptized in Scotland, having proved their age before William de Bevercotes, chancellor of Scotland, and the king having taken homage for Margaret's pupartity, as it appears to the king that Margaret and Isabella were under age when the late king granted whilst in Scotland, to John Comyn of Badenauh, for himself and his men of Scotland who had been at war with the late king, that their lives and limbs should be saved, that they should be quit of imprisonment, and that they should not be disinherited, and that their heirs then under age should enjoy the same conditions. Calendar of the Close Rolls Preserved in the Public Records Office, Edward II. A.D. 1313-1318, p. 40

Evidence from the Register of the Great Seal of Scotland

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Robert I, King of Scots, 1306-1329: Memorandum quod dominus rex confirmavit donationem illamquam Ricardus fecit Dovenaldo filio suo, de capitali manerio in baronia de Sanquhar, cum medietate ejusdem baronie ad ipsum capitale manerium pertinente sicut dicta baronia inter Willelmum de Kreichtone [et] Issobellam sponsam suam portionarios illius baronie ratione dicte sponse ex parte una et ipsum Ricardum Edger ex altera fuerat divisa [Exceptis tribus denariatis terre specifactis in carta] John Maitland Thomson, LL.D. (editor), Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum. Register of the Great Seal of Scotland, A.S. 1396-1424, Appendix I, charter number 56 on page 456

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Robertus Dei gracia, etc., omnibus probis hominibus tocius terre sue salute. Sciatis nos dedisse concessisse et hac presenti carta nostra confirmasse Ricardo dicto Edger dilecto et fideli nostro, pro homagio et servicio suo, capitale manerium cum nedietate tocius baronie de Seneschar ad isum capitale manerium pertinente, sicut dicta baronia inter Willelmum de Crechton et Isabellam sponsam suam porcionarios ipsius baronie racione dicte sponse ex parte una et ipsum Ricardum ex altera per literam de capella nostra nuper fuerat divisa. Tenendum et habendum dicto Ricardo et heredibus suis vel suis assignatis de nobis et heredibus nostris in feodo et hereditate, per omnes rectas metas et divisas suas, libere quiete plenarie et honorifice cum omnibus libertatibus commodiatibus aysiamentis et justis pertinenciis suis, in liberam baroniam. Faciendo nobis et heredibus nostris dictus Ricardus et heredes suis vel sui assignati sectam et servicium quantum pertinent ad predictam medietatem baronie cum capitali manerio sicut fuit tempore bone memorie domini Alexandri regis Scocie predecessoris nostril ultimo defuncti. In cujus rei, etc. R. i. 27. John Maitland Thomson, LL.D. (editor), Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum. Register of the Great Seal of the Great Seal of Scotland, A.S. 1396-1424, charter number 27 on page 8

Genealogy

  1. The Scots Peerage, iii, pp. 52-58 for Chrichton, Lord Crichton, page 53 for reference to William de Crichton and Isabel de Ros
  2. The Scots Peerage, iii, pp. 219-238 for Crichton, Earl of Dumfries
  3. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd Edition, p. 296
  4. rootsweb: Isabel de Ros

Alternative Genealogy

Stirnet reports that Isabel de Ros is the daughter of William de Ros de Ingmanthorpe. Stirnet: Crichton 01 Stirnet: Ros 2

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Isabel de Ros's Timeline

1294
January 31, 1294
Scotland
1327
1327
Caims, Mid Calder, Midlothian, Scotland
1330
1330
Crichton, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
1330
Cairns, Mid Calder, Midlothian, Scotland
1334
1334
Age 39
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Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland (United Kingdom)
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Scotland