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James Bates (Bate)

Also Known As: "Bate"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Lydd, Kent, England
Death: between November 22, 1655 and January 08, 1656 (72-73)
Dorchester, Suffolk County, Massachusetts Bay Colony (Between dates of will and inventory)
Immediate Family:

Son of John Bates and Mary Bates
Husband of Alice Bate
Father of Johanna Bates; Thomazine Sr. Bates; Edward Bates; William DSP. Bates, Died Young; Richard Bates, widower of Susan Isham husband of Ellen Wallis only one of famil and 11 others
Brother of Andrew Bates; Edmund Bates; Robert Bates; Anna Bates; Anna Bates and 11 others

Occupation: selectman, representative
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About James Bate, of Dorchester

James Bate and Alice Glover had only 9 children. Thomazine 1, William, Thomazine 2, and John died young in England. Richard stayed in England and married twice, Lydia, Mary, Margaret, and James III came with parents to Massachusetts. They are well documented. Also see his profile as James Bate in Great Migration 1634-1635, A-B. {Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume 1, A-B, by Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn. Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999

Geographical Note:Dorchester was founded in 1630 in conjunction with immigration on the Mary & John as part of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. It was included within Suffolk County when the county was created May 10, 1643. MBC was merged into the Province of Massachusetts Bay on May 14, 1692. Dorchester was annexed by Boston in sections between March 1804 and June 1869, and the entire town had been annexed by January 3,1870. The location of the cemetery is listed with current geographical place names to facilitate identification.

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Biography

James Bates, Jr. was born on December 2, 1582 in Lydd, Kent, England and was baptized on December 2, 1582 there. His parents were John or James Bates and Mary K (Martine) Bates. He was a selectman, representative.

James married Alice (Glover) Bates circa September 13, 1603 in England. Together they had the following children:

  1. William Bates;
  2. Thomazine Bates;
  3. Edward Bates;
  4. Richard Bates;
  5. Clement or Clements Bates;
  6. Lydia (Bates) Williams;
  7. Robert Bates, of Stamford;
  8. Margaret (Bates) Gibson;
  9. John Bates;
  10. James Bates, III;
  11. Mary (Bates) Foster.

He died on November 22, 1655 in Dorchester, Suffolk County, Massachusetts and was buried in 1655 in MA.



Sailed on ship Elizabeth from London to Dorchester, MA on April 17, 1635. Mead ancestors were on Board as James and Alice's daughter Joanna was married to Goodman Mead. Goodman and Thomas Mead were on boat. James was middle class farmer and elder of Congregational Church in Dorchester


Came from England with the Fosters in the Elizabeth in 1635 and settled at Dorchester. He was a cousin of widow Patience Foster. He married in 1603 to Alice Glover of Saltwood, England b 1583, d. August, 14, 1657. For centuries the family of Bate or Bates was seated in the old town of Lydd, county of Kent, and for successive generations held the offices of Cheif magistrate and Jurat. Thomas Bate was of the manor and estate of jaques Court and also tenant of the manor of New Langport both near Lydd. master james Bates brought with him from England his wife Alice and four children. He was ruling elder of the church selectmen several years and Deputy in 1640. He died in 1655 leaving estate in England and in massachusetts. His son Richard lived at Lydd and was the only one of the family left behind in the emigration to America. Richard was named trustee in his father's will, but died March6, 1656. Another son, James, was born in 1626 and lived in Dorchester, and settled his father's estate there.


Biography

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James Bate[1] Origin

James was baptized on 2 December 1582 at Lydd, county Kent, England, the son of James Bate and Mary (Martine?) Bate.[1] Family

James married at Saltwood, Kent, England, on 16 September 1603 (license issued 13 September), to Alice Glover.[1][2]

Children:[1]

  1. Thomazine Bate (the 1st) bpt. 26 May 1605, d 1606
  2. William Bates bpt. 9 July 1607, d 1625
  3. Richard Bate bpt 12 Nov 1609; mar 1) Susan Isham, Ellen Wallis (remained in England, d there)
  4. Thomazine Bates (the 2nd) b by 1614, d 1624
  5. Lydia Bate bpt. at Lydd; 22 Oct 1615; mar by 1649, as his 2nd, to Roger Williams of Dorchester
  6. Mary Bate bpt. 21 Nov 1619 at Lydd; mar Hopestill Foster
  7. Margaret Bate bpt. 16 Sept 1621 at Lydd; mar Christopher Gibson
  8. John Bates bpt 4 May 1623 at Lydd, d 1625
  9. James Bate bpt. 19 Dec 1624 at Lydd; mar Hannah Withington

Albert Carlos Bates in Ancestral Line for Eight Generations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, reports additional children, not included by Anderson in Great Migration 1634-1635, A-B.

Immigration

On 17 April 1635, the "James Bate aged 53" family was enrolled at London, as passengers aboard the Elizabeth.[1]

Note: 'James Bates of Dorchester was a brother of Clement of Hingham. The two families came over together on the ship Elizabeth, leaving London April 6, 1635. James is listed as a husbandman. With him were his wife, Alice, and children, Lydia, aged 20 years, Mary, aged 17 years, Margaret, aged 12 years, and James, aged 9 years. Four children had died at Lydd, England. One son, Richard, remained in England. James settled in Dorchester where he was made Freeman Dec. 7, 1636. He was also Selectman, Elder, and Representative. He died 1655 and his wife 1657. In his will he leves the greater part of his propety to his son Richard, in Lydd, England. 'His daughter Lydia married Roger Williams of Dorchester, Mary married Hopestill Foster, and Margaret married Christopher Gibson.

'The son, James, married Ann Withington and removed to Haddam, Conn., about 1662. Their children were Samuel, born 1648, who married Mary Chapman, and resided at Saybrook; James, Margaret, Mary, John, Hannah, Elizabeth, and perhaps Alice and Mary. Several of the sons were prominent in the early Connecticut history, and their descendants are still found in that state....'[3]

   Event:

Type: Biography

       Note: 'In Hotten's Book, 'Lists of Emigrants to America: is the following list of those who came over in April, on the Elizabeth:

* 17 Arpilis 1635.

  • 'Theis pties hereunder expressed ar to be transported to New England, imbarqued in ye Elizabeth, Wm. Stagg, Mr. p. cert. from the Ministers and Justices of the Peace of their conformitie to the Church of England they have taken the oaths of Allegiance and supremacie.
  • Husbandman - James Bates, 53 years
  • Alice Bates, 52 years.
  • Lyddia Bates, 20 years
  • Marie Bates, 17 years
  • Margaret Bates, 12 years
  • James Bates, 9 years
  • 'James, the above husbandman, came to Dorchester, MA., was made freeman, Dec. 7, 1636, and selectman next year.
  • 'He was representative for Hingham in 1641, he was also an 'Elder' there.
  • 'Of the children who came to this country with him, Lyddia married Roger Wiliams of Dorchester; Mary married a gentleman who rejoiced in the name of Hopestill Foster, and Margaret a man by the name of Christopher Gibson. His son James married Ann, daughter of the first Henry Withington, and went to Haddam, CT.
  • 'Elder James Bates died in 1655 and his wife Alice in 1657
  • 'He made his will Nov. 22, 1655, noticed his 'sonne Richard Bate of Lid Towne in Kent in Old England' by giving him all his lands, moveable goods and debts that he then had or should have in Old or New England, as his own, unless altered by the Testator, and made Richard sole executor. On the 26th of November, 1655, his codicil provided that his son James should be joined as executor with Richard only for the purpose of receiving such debts as were owed him in New England and to sell such lands and goods, excepting such as he had directed to be given to his grandchild James Foster, provided he made a true inventory and conveyed the estate to his son Richard.
  • 'In Elder Bates' later directions he notices his former will and gives to the three children of his so James, viz. Samuel, Allice and Mary L100 each when 21 years old and to his son James to have the use of L300 for and towards bringing up of said children, provided he should go with his family to live in England and give security to pay the L300. His house, orchard and 3 acres of planting land adjoining the meadow back of the dwelling house in Dorchester, N.E., he gave his grandson James Foster, provided his wife Allice Bate had the support of the house, etc. He evidently had not entire confidence in his son-in-law Mr. Christopher Gibson, for after his death, one, Roger Clapp of Dorchester, aged about 46 years, testified that he visited Mr. James Bate in his last illness and he entreated him 'to take a witness with him, that it was his will that his daughter Gibson, should have 10 pounds for her own use and NOT her husband.'
  • 'The son James may have followed his father's instructions and gone to England with his family and perhaps stayed long enough to get possession of the three hundred pounds, but he must have returned to New England in a very few years and gone to Haddam, Ct....'[4]

Biography

Event Type: Source-add Note: 1. A Bates-Breed Acnestry; George E.Bates; Boston, MA; 1975. Event: Type: Biography

Note: 'James (son of James, baptised in Lydd Dec. 2, 1582. He was licensed Sept. 13, 1603, to marry Alice Glover of Saltwood, a parish not far from Lydd. She was born in 1583 and died Aug. 14, 1657. Their conformity to the Church of England having been certified and they having taken two oaths of allegiance and supremacy, James, noted as a husbandman, his wife and their children, except Richard, the eldest son, embarked on the 'Elizabeth' from the port of London April 17, 1635, for New England. Arriving in America they settled in Dorchester, Mass. On the same ship came Clement, the brother of James, with his family; they settling at Hingham, Mass. James was granted land in Dorchester Feb. 18, 1635/6, and at sundry later times.

In December of the same year he was made a freeman of the Massachusetts Colony. Some time between August 1636, when the Congregational Church was organized, and November 1639, both he and his wife Alice were admitted to membership; later he was a ruling elder of the church. In 1640 he was a deputy to the General Court. He held several town offices and was appointed on a number of committees of the town. James made his will Nov. 22, 1655, and died in Dorchester before Jan. 8, 1655/6.

He made his son Richard of Lydd executor of his estate in both Old and New England, to divide the estate according to his discretion, except that his wife is to have her maintenance from it, that Samuel, Alice and Mary, children of his son James, each to have L100. His grandson James Foster to have his dwelling house, and land surrounding it, and small legacies to Rev. Richard Mather and the wife of Gabriel Mead. A codicil makes his son James joint executor, to attend to property in New England. Later by word of mouth he gave his daughter Margaret Gibson L10. His inventory amounted to L413.0s.9d, to which L26 in land was to be added, and included plate L2.15s.d., land L70, debts owing to him L234.9s.9d.; and he owed L43.6s.0d.[2]

Event: Type: Children Note:

  • 1. Thomazine, bapt. May 26, 1605; buried April 6, 1606.
  • 2. William, bapt. July 19, 1607; died Sept. 29, 1625.
  • 3. Richard, bapt. Nov. 12, 1609, continued to reside in Lydd until his death March 6, 1656/7. He was licensed to marry (1) June 3, 1653, Susan Isham of London, who was buried Aug. 10, 1636; licensed to marry (2) April 18, 1637, Ellen Wallis of Ashford, who died June 17, 1656. His will provides for legacies amounting to L600 to his children, gives his mother Alice Bate in New England a yearly annuity of L12 and disposes of plate and jewels.
  • 4. Thomazine, buried April 16, 1624.
  • 5. Lydia, bapt. Oct. 22, 1615; married 1649 or earlier, Roger Williams of Dorchester, as his second wife.
  • 6. Mary, bapt. Nov. 21, 1619; married about 1639, Hopestill Foster of Dorchester.
  • 7. Margaret, bapt. Sept. 16, 1621; married Christopher Gibson.
  • 8. John, bapt. May 4, 1623; buried Sept. 15, 1625.
  • 9. James, bapt. Dec. 19, 1624.
  • 10. Perhaps Johanna, wife of Gabriel Mead, to whom James left 20 shillings in his will.[2]

Religion

   Religion: The names of such as since the constituting or gathering of the church at dorchester have been added to the church and joyned thereunto as members of the same body, by profession of faith and Repentance and taking hould of the Covent before the Congregacon; viz.

* James Bate

  • Alice Bate
  • Lydia Bate
  • Mary Bate
  • Rachel Bigge
  • Patience Foster
  • Hopestill Foster
  • Date: 23 AUG 1636
  • Place: First Church, Dorchester, Suffolk Co., MA[5]

Death and Legacy

James died 22 November 1655 at Dorchester, Suffolk, Massachusetts. Last Will & Testament

Will:

Date: 22 NOV 1655 Place: Dorchester, Suffolk Co., MA

Note: 'Following is the will of James Bates of Dorchester, Mass., immigrant, older brother of Clement Bates of Hinham, and ancester of a large branch of the Bates Family of Connecticut, where his son James lived at Haddam. He died 1655. The spelling of the original is followed, but punctuation is sometimes inserted for the sake of clearness.

'I James Bate Elder of Dorchester in New England being of a perfect memory and in a competent measure of health considering my years, blessed be God, the 22nd day of the ninth month called November Ano Dom 1655 doe willingly and with a free hart committ my soul to the merciful hands of God my savior and my body to earth, there to rest until the day of generall Resurrection, and my Estate I dispose of as followeth viz. 'I give unto my sonne Mr. Richard Bate of Lydd Towne in Kent in Old England all my Lands movable goods and debt yt I now have or hereafter may have or shall die seazed of in Old England or in New England, to be disposed of by him according to his discretion, yet desirous yt he would attend unto such directions thereabout as I shall send in writing, unlesss I shall see ground and reason afterwards to alter the said directions in any of the particulars thereof and not doubting but he will perform the trust committed to him for that end. I doe make him, my sonne whom I have always found faithfull, my sole Executor of this my last will and Testament, and all other former wills, gifts and bequests, I utterly revoke and make void forever by these presents. In witness whereof I have here sealed and delivered and published as also subscribed as well as he in want of his bodily sight could write in ye presence of Gabrell Mead and of Robt Howard, Not's Pub'cus.

  • James Bate 'At a meeting of the mages't the 14th January 1655 Gabriell Mead and Robert Howard deposed, saith yt they sawe James Bate sign and seal this paper as his last will and testament and yt to their best knowledge he was then o a sound memory. '(Note. The above date, January 14, 1655, was probably Old Style and would be 1656 New Style, as the year then began with March. Note also that November is called the ninth month, for the same reason. Thus this will, being signed November 22, 1655, was probated January 14, 1656, by our reckoning.) 'Addition to the within written will.' 'Whereas I James Bate the Elder in my within written will have made my sonne Mr. Richard Bate my sole executor, upon further thought my will and minde is yt my sonne James Bate shall be joyned Executor with him my said sonne Richard only for this purpose that he my said sonne James may demand, gather in, receive and recover all such debts as are owing unto me by any person or persons in New England, as also to sell such lands and goods as likewise I have in New England excepting what is mentioned in my directions to be given unto my Grandchild James Foster, provided he doth make a true inventory yrof and convey yt said Estate unto my said sonne Richard. In witness whereof I the said James Bate the elder have subscribed my name the 26th day of November Anno 1655. 'Signed, delivered and published as an addition to his within written will in the presence of Robert Howard Not's Pub'cus. 'James Bate the Elder / his marke '(Note. He was apparently too blind to sign his name, as indicated also in his former signature.) 'At the same meeting of the Magister 14 January 1655 Robert Howard deposed this above written to be as an addition to the within written, signed by the said James Bate who then also was of a disposing mind, to his best knowledge. 'Roger Clap forty sixe yeares or thereabouts sworne saith that he being with Mr. James Bate to visite him in sickness he ye said Mr. Bate entreated him to take some witness with himself that it was his well yt his daughter Gibson should have ten pounds for her owne use and at her disposing and not at her husbands; the said Roger said to Mr. Bate, if you have any written will it must be aded thereto, he replyed with earnesteness yt he would have done. 'Edw. Clap, Roger Clap and Nicho. Clap have all three taken their oathes to the truth of the Testimony above written, the 17th day of 11th month, before me 27th January 1655. Jo. Endecott Govr.
  • 'I James Bate testify that I have heard my father Bate say the Sabbath day before he died yt he would give unto his daughter Gibson tenn pounds to be at her disposing and not at her husbands, which ten pounds he said he would add unto his written will. 'James Bate came before me the 19th day of the 11th month called January 1655 and did solemnly take his oathe to the truth of the pr'misses. Jo Endecott Govr.
  • 'Know all men by these presents That whereas I James Bate the elder have made a will sealed, subscribed and dated the 22nd of the 9th month 16555, wherein I make my sonne Mr. Richard Bate sole Executor, expressing in the said will further directions in writing to be given unto him as concerning my desired purpose of disposing of my Estate committed to his care and faithfulnesse as followeth, Vidz - my desire is first that he could give unto my sonne James Bate's three children, Samuel Bate, Alice Bate and Mercy Bate one hundred pounds apiece to be payed out of my lands and goods, when they shall accomplish their severall ages of one and twenty yeares; and further that my said James shall have the profit of their said portions until they shall accomplish their said ages, or and towards their bringing up in case he doth go with his family to live in England. Also if my said son James doe put in good security to pay the said ethree hundred pounds as aforesaid, such as he my said sonne Richard shall like of them, that he have it in his owne hands, otherwise the same to remain in ye hands of him my said sonne Rich'd Bate. 'Item, my desire is yt my house orchard and three acres of planting land adjoining of my said dwelling house in Dorchester, New England he would give unto James Foster my Grandchild and his heires forever, provided yt my deare wife Alice Bate may have her maintenance out of my said house and lands as also out of the rest of my estate as long as she shall live. 'Also I will that Mr. Mather Teacher of the Church of Dorchester have 20s and ye now wife of Gabriell Meade the same 20s. 'These directions bearing date with the said will as above said. James Bate ye Elder / his marke. 'Signed in the presence of Robert Howard Not's Pub'cus 'At a meeting of the magister 14 January 1655 Robert Howard deposed saith that what is above written was exprest and by James Bate in his presence signed as the instrument which he mentions in his will and yt then also he was of a disposing mind to his best knowledge.'[6]

Sources

  1. Anderson, Robert Charles, et al., James Bate Great Migration 1634-1635, A-B. Pages 199-201 (Online database accessed February 3, 2015. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) < AncestrySharing >
  2. Bates, Albert Carlos, Ancestral Line for Eight Gnerations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1720-1820, with some records of his descendants. ( pp. 12-14) Hartford CT: [s.p.] 1943, HathiTrust.org accessed February 5, 2015.
  3. Source: #S168 Page: p.492
  4. Source: #S172 Page: v.2,#2, April 1909; p.5. By Mrs. Katherine A. Bidwell
  5. Source: #S467 Page: p.2, 3, & 4
  6. Source: #S172 Page: V.5 #2; April 1922; p.87-88.

See also:

  1. Source: S168 Title: Foster Genealogy Abbreviation: Foster genealogy Author: Pierce, Frederick Clifton Publication: W.B. Conkey Co, Chicago, IL, 1899
  2. Source: S172 Title: Bates Bulletin Abbreviation: Bates Bulletin Publication: Bates Association, 1907+ Repository: #R18 Call Number: 929.2 B317701B
  3. Source: S467Pope, Charles H., Records of the First Church at Dorchester in New England 1636-1734. (p.166) Boston, MA: George H. Ellis, 1891
  4. Source: S76 Colket, Meredith B., Founders of Early American Families - Emigrants from Europe 1607-1657 (p.21) General Court of the Order of Founders and Patriots of America, Cleveland, OH, 1975
  5. Cutter, William Richard, editor, New England Families, Genealogical and Memorial: A Record of the ..., Volume 1. Features the other Bate/Bates family, Clement of Hingham.
  6. Anderson, Robert Charles, (1995) "James Bate," featured name. Great Migration 1634-1635, Vol I, A-B. AmericanAncestors.org NEHGS (Vol A-B, Pages 199-201) < AmericanAncestors >
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James Bate, of Dorchester's Timeline

1582
December 2, 1582
Lydd, Kent, England
December 2, 1582
Lydd, Kent, England (United Kingdom)
December 2, 1582
Lydd, All Hollows, Kent, England
1582
Lydd, Kent, England
1605
May 26, 1605
Lydd, Kent, England (United Kingdom)
1605
Limpfield, S, Co, England
1605
Lydd, Kent, England (United Kingdom)
1606
1606
Lydd, Kent, England
1607
July 9, 1607
Lydd, Kent, England