John Anthony Foreman, (III)

John Foreman was a Cherokee man

Biography

John Foreman was born about 1780 in the Cherokee Nation (East) the son of John Anthony Foreman a white man, and Susie. a Cherokee. He married and/or had children by at least four women including Nannie Drumgoole, her sister Ruth, and Jennie Foster. [1] His children were Richard, John, James, Elizabeth (daughter of Jennie Foster) [2] , a second Elizabeth, and Johnson (son of Ruth Drumgoole) [3]

John wrote a letter to Indian Agent Return Meigs in March of 1809 complaining about the theft of a horse. [4] His death date is unknown.

Research Notes

Starr's History is showing 6 children for this man without being clear on who the mother of each child was. Other sources needed to clarify.

Sources

1. ↑ Starr, Emmet. History of the Cherokee Indians. Oklahoma Yesterday Publications edition, Tulsa, OK. 1979. p. 363. Digitized edition at Starr
2. ↑ statement made by James Madison Bell, citied by James Hicks
3. ↑ National Archives and Records Administration, Eastern Cherokee Applications of the Court of Claims, Application #9401, granddaughter Susan (Foreman) Lynch.
4. ↑ National Archives and Records Administration, Records of the Cherokee Agency in Tennessee, 1801-1835. Letter from John Foreman to Return Meigs, 22 March 1809. Digitized at Fold3 letter

Source: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Foreman-1114
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JOHN FOREMAN (JOHN ANTHONY2, JOHN ANTHONY1) was born Abt. 1780 in CNE [TN], and died 1807.
He married (1) unknown
He married (2) NANNIE DRUMGOOLE Abt. 1801, daughter of ALEXANDER DRUMGOOLE and NANCY AUGUSTA. She was born Abt. 1779, and died July 23, 1850.
He married (3) JENNIE DOUBLEHEAD FOSTER Abt. 1806, daughter of JAMES FOSTER and NANCY LIGHTFOOT. She was born Abt. 1778, and died Abt. 1812.
He married (4) RUTH DRUMGOOLE Bef. 1808, daughter of ALEXANDER DRUMGOOLE and NANCY AUGUSTA. She was born Abt. 1788 in CNE [TN], and died Abt. 1851 in Saline Dist, CNW.

• Starr lists two wives for John Foreman; Nannie Drumgoole nee Doublehead and Ruth Springston.
• John's children are listed by Starr as five sets of half-siblings. A statement of James Madison Bell indicates that Elizabeth's (one of the two Elizabeth's in this family) mother was Jennie Foster.
• Blood: 1/2 Cherokee
• Clan: Ani'-Wâ'di = Red Paint (Susie Gourd)

Notes for NANNIE DRUMGOOLE:

• Starr lists Nannie "the Pain" as Nannie Drumgoole nee Doublehead.
• [Cherokee Advocate, Aug 6, 1850, Obituary of Nancy Springston]

Born c. 1775 - died July 23, 1850. Her four surviving children were at her side at the time of her death at the house of Anderson Springston. She also had 73 grandchildren.

• John L. Springston's notes on his Miller Application:

“Sir: My grandmother on my fathers side was named Nancy. She was a full blood Indian of the Cherokee Tribe.She had four sets of children, Springston, Foreman, Wilson and Doublehead and as I understand the case, she must have been enrolled in 1835,36.1846 & 1833 or earlier than 1835. I want to find her name and her families by name. My grandfathers name was John. I think he had by his marriage to her three children - Anderson, my father, & Isaac & Edley Springston. My uncles by her Foreman marriage she had only one I am aware, his name was Jim or James Foreman. By her Doublehead marriage she had only one as far as I know, his name was Bird Doublehead. Her marriage to Wilson I am lost. She died prior to 1851 (this contradicts his other statement). Now as far as the Cherokee Indian record will show her I wish an examination thereof - my father Anderson Springston was born 10-13-1814 and I think Isaac was older than he - Edley I am unable to say.
Nancy, my said grandma had two brothers and two sisters as I was informed by my father & mother both and I ask as to who her census shows they were - if possible - as to claim on them.I cannot be any to certain, or not enough to swear to positive.I ask for such information as is possible from the rolls showing them so I can apply with a certainty.
They were all emigrants and resided in Delaware District Cherokee Nation West and I think in Tennessee East - not far from Gunters Landing on the Tennessee River. It is my desire to apply for all possible where (the rest is illegible).This is signed 10-8-1906.”

• In another letter he states that she had two brothers and two sisters,
• Another letter states:

"Nan-que-se, my grandmother Nancy Springston's niece -- Nancy in same family, the relation bore to each I do not know--also, Isaac, sister of my grandmother Nancy --Che-ne-lern-ky -- relationship only as fixed by the relationship existing between the named emigrants.

More About NANNIE DRUMGOOLE:

• Blood: 1/2 Cherokee

More About JENNIE DOUBLEHEAD FOSTER:

• Clan: Ani'-Kawi' = Deer Clan (Ga-ho-ga)

Notes for RUTH DRUMGOOLE:

• Springston 1 William Springston and Nancy ["The Pain"]
• Springston 1-1 Ruth Springston +John Foreman +George Wilson
• The Drennan roll indicates that the above Nancy _____ is the same as Nannie Drumgoole nee Doublehead
• John Foreman (Foreman 1-1, pg 363) and that both Ruth and Nancy are daughters of Alexander Drumgoole and Nannie Augusta, a full blood (who also married Richard Fields, a white man).
• Thus Ruth [Drumgoole] is listed by Starr as both Ruth Springston and Ruth Drumgoole in separate references

on page 542 of Starr's History of the Cherokee, in the biography for Breedlove, Starr mentions "Mrs Malinda Chisholm married in January 1836 William [Wilson], son of George and Ruth (Springston) Wilson,..."
"Indian Territory", Gideon, 1901, page 952, biography of Winfield Scott Audrain;
..."a son of James P and Mary (Wilson) Audrain, and a grandson of George and Ruth (Dungould) Wilson."
..."Our subject's maternal grandmother, Mrs Ruth Wilson, was a daughter of Alexander and Nancy Augusta Dungould, the former a white man, the latter of Cherokee blood."

• Blood: 1/2 Cherokee
• Burial: McClain Creek on Maynard Bayou, Saline Dist, CNW

Children of JOHN FOREMAN are:
14. i. RICHARD4 FOREMAN, b. 1800, CNE; d. 1862, Tahlequah Dist, CNW.
15. ii. JOHN JACK FOREMAN, b. Abt. 1801, Georgia; d. 1863.

Children of JOHN FOREMAN and NANNIE DRUMGOOLE are:
16. iii. JAMES C4 FOREMAN, b. 1802; d. May 1842, Evansville, Arkansas.
17. iv. ELIZABETH BETSY FOREMAN, b. Abt. 1804.

Child of JOHN FOREMAN and JENNIE FOSTER is:
18. v. ELIZABETH (FOSTER)4 FOREMAN, b. Abt. 1807, Bradley Co, TN; d. Aft. 1865.

Child of JOHN FOREMAN and RUTH DRUMGOOLE is:
19. vi. JOHNSON4 FOREMAN, b. January 01, 1808; d. June 28, 1872.

Source: Hicks, James R. “Cherokee Lineages: Register Report of John Anthony Foreman I” Genealogy.com, Sites.Rootsweb.com,, https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0013...
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John Anthony Foreman (Anthony2, John Anthony1) was born Abt. 1780 in Cherokee Nation East Tennessee, and died 1807 in Cherokee Nation East/Killed.
He married (1) UNKNOWN Richard Mother Abt. 1799 in Cherokee Nation East. She died Unknown.
He married (2) UNKNOWN John Mother Abt. 1800. She died Unknown.
He married (3) Nannie Drumgoole Abt. 1801 in Cherokee Nation, East, daughter of Alexander Drumgoole and Nancy Augusta. She was born Abt. 1775 in Cherokee, Cherokee County, Georgia, and died July 23, 1850 in Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory, Oklahoma.
He married (4) Jennie Doublehead Foster Abt. 1805 in Cherokee Nation, East, daughter of James Foster and Nancy Lightfoot. She was born Abt. 1776 in Cherokee Nation East, and died Unknown.
He married (5) Ruth Drumgoole Abt. 1806, daughter of Alexander Drumgoole and Nancy Augusta. She was born Abt. 1790 in Cherokee Nation East, and died Unknown.

• JOHN ANTHONY FOREMAN III:In Emmet Starr "Old Cherokee Families" it lists Richard Foreman as his first born.Starr then puts a dash between children, meaning they have a different mother. I am not sure who Richard and his brother John’s mothers are as only two spouses were listed by Starr.I have found no documentation as to who their mothers might be.The next half siblings are James and Elizabeth Foreman, then another half-sister named Elisabeth.Page 363
• (Comment by author: In Cherokee families, the children are raised by their mother and their mothers brothers and/or family. Because of this custom, I do not believe that Richard and John's mother was Nannie Drumgoole. Her children are definately listed as Bird Doublehead, James Foreman and Anderson, Isaac and Edley Springston. Because of their involvement together in various conflicts among the factions in the Cherokee Nation it would lead one to believe that they were all raised together. This is just my observation in documents I have read. - Lynda Foreman)
• Clan: Paint Clan

More About John Foreman and 1st UNKNOWN Mother:
Marriage: Abt. 1799, Cherokee Nation East

More About John Foreman and 2nd UNKNOWN Mother:
Marriage: Abt. 1800

Notes for Nannie Drumgoole:

• NANNIE has been quite a challenge. In Emmet Starr's book "History of the Cherokee Indians" p 630 it states "Nancy, a full-blood Cherokee, married a Mr. Drumgoole, and their daughter, Ruth, married John Foreman.They were the parents of Elizabeth Foreman who married Edley Springston and they were the parents of Mary Springston".Originally I believed this to be Nannie Drumgoole nee Doublehead as Emmet Starr listed her, but it was her mother Nancy Augusta that married Mr. Drumgoole and Nannie was their daughter and Ruth her sister.

[Cherokee Advocate, August 6, 1850, Obituary of Nancy Springston]

• Born c. 1775 - died July 23, 1850. Her four surviving children were at her side at the time of her death at the house of Anderson Springston. She also had 73 grandchildren.
• John Leah Springston's Miller Application states that Nannie Foreman had four sets of children as follows:

by SPRINGSTON
Anderson
Isaac
Edley
by DOUBLEHEAD
Bird
by FOREMAN
James
by WILSON
Unknown

• On John Leah Springston's Miller Application he is claiming for "Wau-se-de, or Oo-wah-wau-se-de, (my fathers mothers brother), he resided in Saline District, Cherokee Nation.On Ah-gah-loo-gah, or Whirlwind, or Storm, a member of the family of said Wau-se-de above named --- (just what his relation was to the said family I am now unable to learn, yet he was a member of the family.")
• Cherokee Name: Nan-que-se
• Degree of Blood: 1/2 Cherokee Indian

More About John Foreman and Nannie Drumgoole:

• Marriage: Abt. 1801, Cherokee Nation, East

Notes for Jennie Doublehead Foster:

• JENNIE FOSTER's affiant stating Jennie was the mother of Elizabeth Foreman was signed by James Madison Bell on March 13, 1909.
• Clan: Deer Clan
• Degree of Blood: 1/2 Cherokee Indian

More About John Foreman and Jennie Foster:

• Marriage: Abt. 1805, Cherokee Nation, East

More About John Foreman and Ruth Drumgoole:

• Marriage: Abt. 1806

Child of John Foreman and UNKNOWN 1st Mother is:
+ 16 i. Richard4 Foreman, born 1800 in Cherokee Nation East, Georgia; died 1862 in Tahlequah District, Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory.

Child of John Foreman and UNKNOWN 2nd Mother is:
+ 17 i. John Anthony4 Foreman, born Abt. 1801 in Georgia, Cherokee Nation East; died 1863 in Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory.

Child of John Foreman and Nannie Drumgoole is:
+ 18 i. James C.4 Foreman, born Abt. 1802 in Cherokee Nation East, Tennessee; died May 14, 1842 in Evansville, Arkansas.

Child of John Foreman and Jennie Foster is:
+ 19 i. Elizabeth4 Foreman, born Abt. 1806 in Cherokee Nation East, Bradley, Tennessee; died Aft. 1867 in Indian Territory, Cherokee Nation.

Children of John Foreman and Ruth Drumgoole are:
+ 20 i. Elisabeth 'Betsy'4 Foreman, born Abt. 1804 in Bradley County, Tennessee, Cherokee Nation East; died Unknown.
+ 21 ii. Johnson Foreman, born 1808 in Cherokee Nation East; died June 28, 1872 in Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory.

Source: Foreman, Lynda S. “User Home Page Book: The Foreman Family: NGS Quarterly Report of John Anthony Foreman I.” Genealogy.Com, 15 Feb. 2004, www.genealogy.com/ftm/f/o/r/Lynda-S-Foreman/BOOK-0001/0004-0001.html.
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ii. John Anthony "Cherokee" Foreman, born 1780 in, TN; killed 1807 in, TN;
married (1) Nanque-se Nannie The-Pain "Cherokee" Drumgoole born 1775; died July 23, 1850 in, IT, OK;
married (2) Jennie Doublehead "Cherokee" Foster; born 1777 in Cherokee Nation East; died 1812;
married (3) Ruth "Cherokee" Drumgoole Springston; born 1786.

Notes for John Anthony "Cherokee" Foreman:

• Blood: 1/2 Cherokee
• Clan: Paint Clan (Susie Gourd)
• Emmet Starr, Foreman 1-1 Starr lists two wives for John Foreman; Nannie Drumgoole nee Doublehead and Ruth Drumgoole nee Springston.
• John's children are listed by Starr as five sets of half-siblings.
• A statement of James Madison Bell indicates that Elizabeth's (one of the two Elizabeth's in the family) mother was Jennie Foster.

Marriage #1: Female Richard's Mother
Marriage #2: Female John's Mother
Marriage #3: Nannie Drumgoole
Marriage #4: Jennie Doublehead Foster
Marriage #5: Ruth Drumgoole Nannie Drumgoole and Ruth Drumgoole are sisters.

• In Emmet Starr "Old Cherokee Families" it lists Richard Foreman as his first born. Starr then puts a dash between children, meaning they have a different mother. I am not sure who Richard and his brother John mothers are as only two spouses were listed by Starr. I have found no documentation as to who their mothers might be. The next half siblings are James and Elizabeth Foreman, then another half-sister named Elisabeth. Page 363.
• In Cherokee families, the children are raised by their mother and their mothers brothers and/or family. Because of this custom, I do not believe that Richard and John's mother was Nannie Drumgoole. Her children are listed as Bird Doublehead, James Foreman and Anderson, Isaac and Edley Springston. Because of their involvement together in various conflicts among the factions in the Cherokee Nation it would lead you to believe that they were all raised together.

Source: http://cherokeeregistry.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=artic...
(Curator Note: I don’t have membership access to the Cherokee Regustry but the text above appears to be the same as that by Lynda S. Foreman in the preceding section)

References

• Baptism (LDS): June 17, 1995, PORTL Endowment (LDS): August 22, 1995, PORTL Sealed to parents (LDS): June 08, 1996, PORTL 4
• https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0013...
• Updated from MyHeritage Family Trees via brother Richard Bark Foreman by SmartCopy: Jan 13 2015, 2:28:14 UTC