John Thomas Carr "Jack"

From The History of The Family of Carr of Woodhall, Lesbury, Eshott, and Hetton Volume 3 by R.E. Carr C.E. Carr Rev. T.W. Carr Published 1899 Page 203

John Thomas Carr, C.E., born at Blackheath Park, 12 July 1850, Engineer to Napier Harbour Board, New Zealand [probably] [55 Blackheath Park, Blackheath, London SE3 9SQ 51.4649909, 0.0152513]

[married to:] Harriet Sutton, eldest daughter of Frederick Sutton, M.H.R., of Royston, Hawke's Bay, New Zealand; married at Napier, New Zealand 14 December 1881.

[3 Children]

• Florence Mary Carr, born at Napier, 3 April 1883
• Cedric Errol Carr, born at Napier, 16 November 1892
• Stella Marguerite Carr, born at Napier, 26 June 1894

From MyHeritage: Mark William Carr: 1851 England & Wales Census

30 March 1851 Census for residents of 8? High Street, Uppingham, Rutland, England; [Possibly] [8 High Street East, Uppingham, Oakham LE15 9PZ 52.5879516, -0.721757]

• Mark William Carr, head, married, male, aged 28 [born about 1823], in North Shields, Northamptonshire; Civil Engineer
• Mary Carr, wife, married, female, aged 29 [born about 1822], in Bretton, Yorkshire
• John T Carr, son, single, male, aged 8 months [born in 1850], in Charlton, Kent
• 1 sibling, 1 visitor, 2 servants

From MyHeritage: Francis Bennoch in 1861 England & Wales Census

7 April 1861 Census for residents of [The Knoll, Eliot Hill, Blackheath, London SE13 7EB 51.46778, -0.00826], Lewisham, Kent, England

• Francis Bennoch, head, married, male, aged 48 [born about 1813], in Scotland; Merchant Commission
• Margaret Bennoch, wife, married, female, aged 45 [born about 1816], in Rowley, Yorkshire
• Elizabeth Raine, mother-in-law, widow, female, aged 81 [born about 1780], in [ERROR Lancashire CORRECTION near Lanchester], Durham
• Mark Carr, nephew, single, male, aged 14 [born about 1847], in [ERROR Leuton CORRECTION Seaton], Rutland; Scholar
• Francis B Carr, nephew, single, male, aged 12 [born about 1849], in [ERROR Leuton CORRECTION Seaton]; Scholar
• John T Carr, nephew, single, male, aged 10 [born about 1851], in Charlton[?], Kent; Scholar
• Thomas W Carr, nephew, single, male, aged 7 [born about 1854], in Maindee, Monmouthshire; Scholar
• Richard E Carr, nephew, single, male, aged 5 [born about 1856], in Hereford, Herefordshire; Scholar
• Elizabeth Piggott, servant, single, female, aged 32 [born about 1829], in Kingston, Berkshire; Cook
• Ellen Deacon, servant, single, female, aged 33 [born about 1828], in Ireland; House Servant
• Rachell Harris, servant, single, female, aged 20 [born about 1841], in Manstall, Monmouthshire; House Servant

From "19331010 diary of Richard Eshott Carr (18 January 1856 - 10 October 1933).pdf" Page 18

Sunday, 24 January 1875: Jack left for Plymouth to sail in "Durham" for New Zealand.

From Evening Post Saturday, 3 July 1875

The following appointments in the Public Works Department are gazetted : — John T. Carr, Engineer

From New Zealand marriages

Ref: 1881/2630 Marriage of Harriet Sutton and John Thomas Carr

From Daily Telegraph Wednesday, 14 December 1881 Marriage

Marriage: Carr — Sutton. — On Wednesday, 14 December 1881 at St. Paul's Church, Napier, N.Z., by the Rev. David Sidey, assisted by the Rev. W. Nichol, John Thomas Carr, third son of Mark William Carr, Esq., C.E., of 4 Woburn Place, London, to Hettie Sutton, oldest daughter of Frederick Sutton, Esq., M.H.R., of Royston, Hawke's Bay.

From British Newspaper Archive: London Evening Standard Thursday, 16 February 1882 Page 1 Marriages

Marriages: Carr — Sutton. — Wednesday, 14 December 1881, at St. Paul's Church, Napier, New Zealand, John Thomas Carr, C.E., third son of Mark William Carr, Esq., M. Inst. C.E., of 4 Woburn Place, W.C., and Blaina House, Monmouthshire, to Harriet Sutton (Hettie) eldest daughter of Frederick Sutton, Esq., M.H.R., of Royston, Hawke's Bay, New Zealand. [St Paul's Presbyterian Church, 89 Tennyson Street, Napier South, Napier 4110, New Zealand -39.4898098, 176.9157793]

From Daily Telegraph Thursday, 29 November 1883 Supreme Court, Civil Sittings

Colenso Versus Minister For Public Works.

This was a claim preferred under the Public Works Act, 1882, for alleged injury done to certain sections, the property of the plaintiff, by the construction of railway works. The amount sought to be recovered was £390 ...

John Thomas Carr, resident engineer of the Napier-Woodville railway, stated for the defence that Miller Street was opened by his recommendation in compensation for the closing of Stamford Street, which contained eight lines of rails. The closing of that street was in consequence of the danger from the engines running along it so frequently. Stamford Street was half swamp before the Government filled it in, and for the purposes of a survey he had to climb along a fence to get across it.

From "19331010 diary of Richard Eshott Carr (18 January 1856 - 10 October 1933).pdf" Page 135

In May 1885, Jack was sacked by the New Zealand Government for the sake of economy, and set up for himself in Napier.

From Hawke's Bay Herald Thursday, 24 April 1890 The Breakwater Fatality

The adjourned inquiry into the death of Frederick Hamshar, killed at the breakwater on Monday, was held at the Court-house yesterday, before Captain Preece, coroner. ...

John Thomas Carr, C.E., engineer to the Harbor Board, called by Mr Sainsbury, deposed that he had been 10.5 years in the Government service prior to holding his present position. Had considerable experience in earth works. Made the plan produced. The slope down which the heavy stone fell was 30ft high, and the inner rail of the metals was about 8ft 6in from the face. Did not see very well how the work could be carried on in any other way. The stuff which was being worked was a mixture of soil, sand, and clay. It was very hard, having been brought down from above, about 150 ft. The men bad to frequently blast it, it was so hard. Did not consider that there had been negligence shown by the evidence he had heard in relation to the accident. He considered all reasonable precautions were taken. It was dangerous to work in such places, and he supposed that the men knew that better than anyone else. Never knew the Government to provide stretchers or ambulances on public works. ...

From Daily Telegraph 22 August 1890 Death of Mr. Francis Bennoch

The following paragraph refers to an uncle of Mr [John Thomas] Carr, C.E., the Napier Harbour Board Engineer:—

"A very large circle of friends, both in this country and in America (says the Pall Mall Gazette) will be deeply grieved to hear of the death of Mr Francis Bennoch, which occurred very suddenly yesterday morning (29th ult. [i.e. 29? July 1890])...

From Cyclopedia of New Zealand, The Hawke's Bay Knowledge Bank - NOTE: click on "9"

Mr. John Thomas Carr, C.E., Secretary, Treasurer, and Engineer to the Napier Harbour Board, has had an extensive English, Continental, and Colonial professional experience. He was born in 1850 at Blackheath, Kent, England, is a son of Mr. Mark William Carr, C.B., M.I.C.E., of Newcastle-on-Tyne, was educated primarily at Eltham, at Western College, 97 Montpelier Road, Brighton, East Sussex BN1 3BE 50.8254993, -0.1521999, and professionally at King’s College, London, and Stuttgart Polytechnic in Germany.

After passing the necessary examination Mr. Carr had several years’ engineering experience with the East Hungarian Railway, and in 1875 came to this Colony per ship "Durham" under engagement to the Government as resident engineer of the Public Works Department for Hawke’s Bay.

Mr. Carr’s first work in the Colony was the laying out of the railway line from Takapau south as far as the Manawatu Gorge. This occupied a year and he then went to the Bay of Islands as resident engineer to lay out the line to Kawakawa, and when that was completed, he was sent to the Waikato to lay out the line to Te Aroha through the great Piako Swamp. That this was a work of very great difficulty all who know anything of the country are well aware.

On the completion of the work in December, 1877, Mr. Carr was re transferred to Hawke’s Bay as district engineer, and superintended the construction of the railway from Kopua to Tahoraite.

Leaving the Government service in 1885, he entered into private practice in Napier, as a civil engineer, and designed and constructed numerous works, including the Napier Marine Parade and the famous Wairoa Bridge, which is 700 feet long in three spans of 120 feet each, five spans of 60 feet each and a draw span.

In January, 1890, on the resignation of Mr. Goodall as engineer to the Napier Harbour Board, he was appointed to the vacancy and in June, 1897, the duties of secretary and treasurer were added. When Mr. Carr’s connection with the Harbour Board commenced the breakwater was well advanced, but he has made great improvements in the protective works.

He is a past master of the Irish Constitution of Masons, and is an old cricketer and footballer.

Mr. Carr was married in 1881 to a daughter of Mr. F. Sutton, ex-member of the House of Representatives for Hawke’s Bay, and has two daughters and a son.

From Pahiatua Herald Friday, 21 June 1901 Page 3 Advertisements Column 3

Statement of Claim.

Between the Mayor, Councillors, and Burgesses of the Borough of Pahiatua, a body corporate, Plaintiff, and John Thomas Carr, late of Napier, engineer, Defendant.

Particulars of plaintiff's claim.

The Plaintiff Body, by the Council thereof, claim to recover from the defendant the sum of 9s. 2d. being amount of rates due by the defendant to the plaintiff body, in respect of the property No. 280 on the Valuation Roll of the Borough of Pahiatua, being Allotment No. 101, Section No. 21, Block VIII., Mangahao Survey District, and levied by the Council of the plaintiff body under the provisions of the "Rating Act, 1876," particulars whereof are stated hereunder:

Due dates: Tuesday, 1 August 1899-1900 To rates levied and due, 4s. 7d. 1900 01, To rates levied and due, 4s. 7d. Total rates due, 9s. 2d.

From MyHeritage: John Thomas Carr Family Trees

• name: John Thomas Carr
• born: Friday, 12 July 1850 at Charlton by Dover, Kent, England
• occupation: Engineer to Napier Harbour Board, New Zealand
• marriage: Harriet Carr (born Sutton) on Wednesday, 14 December 1881 at Napier, Hawkes Bay, North Island, New Zealand
• died: July 1940 at Auckland, New Zealand
• parents: Mark William Carr, MICE, FSA, 1822 - 1888, Mary Carr, (née Raine), 1821 - 1908
• siblings: Mark William Carr, 1847 - 1904, Robert Raine Carr, 1851 - 1852, Richard Eshott Carr, 1856 - 1933, Twin Boy 2 Carr, 1858 - 1858, Elizabeth Matilda Edwards (née Carr), 1861 - 1924, <Private> Carrs, Francis Bennoch Carr, 1848 - 1930, Thomas William Carr, 1854 - 1925, Mary Margaret Raine Hill (née Carr), 1857 - 1935, Twin Boy 1 Carr, 1858 - 1858, Percy Edward Ogle Carr, 1863 - 1916, <Private> Carr

NOTE: NOT New Zealand deaths

Ref: 1940/26697 Death of John Thomas Carr aged 64 [Born about 1876]