Circumstantial evidence suggests she may be Mary SHINE, daughter of Major Daniel Shine and Elizabeth GREEN.

One point against: Mary SHINE is not mentioned in her father Daniel Shine's will of 1757 and may have died before him. Mary ____ OLIVER died in 1794.

Mary Oliver

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NC, Craven County, Wills, Oliver Family Wills

http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/craven/wills/oliverwills.txt

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Oliver Family wills Craven County CR 028.801.27 (except as noted)

Oliver, Mary 1794

3very sick in body2

Heirs: Daughter Elizabeth Bryan: Negro man Sutia.

Son: James: rent due me for my home..

Daughter: Sarah Craddock: Negro girl Fanny.

Granddaughter: Betsy Craddock: child Fanny is now pregnant with.

Granddaughter: Mary Craddock: Negro boy Jim & girl Molly

Daughter: Sarah Craddock: Rest of estate

Executor: Mary Oliver

Grandson: James Bryan

Witnesses:

James Bryan

Solomon Halling

Eunice Halling

No date of writing

Probate date: December term 1794

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Amy Cote writes (5/5/2016 )

I’ve been looking for evidence to prove the identity of John Oliver’s wife Mary (1727-1794), thought to be MARY SHINE, daughter of DANIEL SHINE and ELIZABETH GREEN.

There is still no direct evidence that Mary Shine (daughter of Daniel) was Mary, the wife of John Oliver. There is, however, a lot of circumstantial evidence and a couple of published genealogies from 1912 and 1969.

Online messages:

I’ve seen internet messages going back to 1999 stating that John Oliver married Mary Shine, most likely the daughter of Daniel Shine. According to Florence Fulford Moore, a fellow descendant, John Oliver was a privateer who came to New Bern County from England.

Glenda Turck's Rootsweb tree from 2004 shows the same genealogy.

Published books:

A book published in 1912 (“Carolina and the Southern Cross”), states that John Oliver married Mary Shine, and lists some of their children, but not parents for either of them. It’s not well-organized.

http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/Carolina_and_the_Southe...

The pages for Daniel Shine and Elizabeth Green and for John Oliver and Mary Shine at the “Our Family Tree” website (Ray Gurganus’ site) cite a book from 1969: Some Colonial and Revolutionary Families of North Carolina, Volume II; Marilu Burch Smallwood; Volume II Published by the Author, 1969. The book is not online, unfortunately.

Would you believe it is 295 bucks on Amazon, not including shipping?

I don’t know if her book is considered reliable or not. This is the website that cites the book:

http://www.ourfamtree.org/browse.php/John-Oliver/f10902

Documentation:

Alas, there’s nothing definite here, but the circumstantial evidence is compelling.

Daniel Shine does not mention most of his daughters by name in his will.

However, John Oliver was an executor of the will of Daniel Shine in 1757, along with Daniel’s son James (b 1731):

“And I make and order my hole and sole Executors, James Shine and JOHN OLIVER, Revoaking and Disanulling other will and Legacies before maid by me.”

http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/craven/wills/shine04.txt

John Oliver was also a major purchaser at Daniel Shine’s estate sale (making fourteen purchases, some listed under the name John Olivour).

http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/craven/wills/shine01.txt

John Oliver was an executor of James Shine’s will in 1761. Perhaps the James Shine who is a son/executor of Daniel Shine (though the Geni profile of James, son of Daniel shows him dying in 1801--no documentation; needs to be confirmed). Both wills (Daniel Shine, James Shine) mention James’s brothers Thomas Shine and William Shine.

http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/craven/wills/shinewills.txt

John Oliver was also a witness to a codicil to his brother-in-law Francis Stringer’s 1753 will, “lodged in the hands of Daniel Shine Esqr.”

Francis Stringer married Mary Shine’s sister, Hannah Shine. The will names as executors Daniel Shine, James Greene, and Thomas Graves.

http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/craven/wills/stringr2.txt

John Oliver was witness to the 1760 will of Francis Dawson, along with Thomas and William Shine—possibly the same two men mentioned in the Daniel Shine and James Shine wills.

http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/craven/wills/dawsoncollw.txt

John Oliver’s will (dated 1766/probate 1776) was witnessed by William Shine and William Green. (It’s not clear whether William Shine is the same one mentioned in the previous three wills, and it’s not clear who William Green is, but the Greens were part of the Daniel Shine family via his wife Elizabeth Green Shine.)

http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/craven/wills/oliverwills.txt

John Bryan (husband of Elizabeth Oliver, daughter of John Oliver and Elizabeth Shine) had his will witnessed by Thomas Shine—it’s not clear whether he is the same one from the other wills. (The other two witnesses were family--Crispins. John Oliver’s sister Sidney married a Crispin per his will.)

http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/HARDY/1998-11/0909969823

So we have a book from 1912 saying John Oliver married Mary Shine, we have the wills of Daniel Shine and members of his family showing John Oliver as if he is a family member, and we have son-in-law John Bryan's will witnessed by members of the Shine and Green families.

More references connecting OLIVER, SHINE, and GREEN:

1774, June 28. Account of Sales of sundry good belonging to Estate of Christopher Dawson, deceased, sold by Francis Dawson and John Bryan, Executors. Purchasers: James Clayton, John West, James Hollis, William Carraway, Agnes Green, Chosewell Dixon, John Justice, William Parey, Francis Dawson, William Brooks, Joseph Atherly, Charles Shanwoolf, Peter Sparrow, John Bryan, John Parkinson, Sidney Crispin, John Carney, John Green, Ann Mary Brown, James Willis, John Tillman, Samson Leith, John Thomas, Nathaniel Carraway, John Benners, Jesse Bryan, John Biggs, Joseph Oliver, Joseph Atherly, William Biggs, Abner Nash, Smith Sparrow, Thomas Shine, Joseph Crispin, Joseph Oliver, Solomon Shanwoolf. Among items sold: bedstead, corn, fish gig, rug, bed quilt, desk, tea table, case and bottles, ivory handled knives, china bowl, spoon boat, tea spoons, pewter plates, saddle bags, powder horn, lantern, sheep shears, candle sticks, bee hive. CLP.

http://craven.lostsoulsgenealogy.com/court/dawsonarticles.htm

Circumstantial evidence suggests that this is the same person:

Mary Oliver

Please see notes at the other profile.