Matilda ‘Maud’ (Margaret) Babthorp

Matilda (Maud) Pilkington [5] b. c 1371, d. 1423. Married 1) Sir John Arderne, of Aldford 2) Sir Robert Babthorpe, Sheriff of Staffordshire.

Disputed Identity

Name seen as Bridget. “After Eleanor's death he [Robert Babthorpe] took as his second wife Bridget Pilkington, of the Lancashire family.”

Name seen as Margaret.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Pilkington-53

Note that Pilkington (1912), identifies the wife of Sir John Ardern as "Margaret Pilkington," but this is disputed by Lewis (2019), citing works by Douglas Richardson, who also asserts that "Margaret," was the name of her mother.[2] However, RIchardson (2011), also calls her "Margaret, dau. of Roger Pilkington," in at least two of his books.[4]

According to Pilkington (1912), she's supposedly the second dau. of Sir Roger (living 1312; d. abt. 1347) & Alicia Bury (d. abt. 1374).[5] But Lewis (2019), makes her the dau. of Sir Roger Pilkington (b. 1325 - d. Jan 1406), son of Sir Roger & Alice Bury, who m. Margaret UNKNOWN. ... which moves her down a generation.[6]

Biography

Margaret was married twice:[5][2]

1. Sir John (b. 12 Mar 1369 - d. 02 Jul 1408), son of Thomas de Arderne of Elford, co. Staffs. & Katherine Stafford.[5][2]. Their child:
   1. Matilda "Maud" married Thomas, 3rd son of Sir John de Stanley, KG of Lathom.[5]
2. (bef. 1412 as second wife) Sir Robert Babthorp[e], sheriff of Staffs, son of Thomas Babthorpe & Joan Osgodby. No issue.[5][2]

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Margaret Pilkington survived her first husband, Sir John Ardenne, Knt. and married secondly, Sir Robert Babthorp, Knt.

https://books.google.com/books?id=VwMcAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA324&lpg=PA324&d...

• 'Matilda (Maud) Pilkington1,2
• 'F, d. 1423
• Father Sir Roger Pilkington2 b. 1325, d. 2 Jan 1406
• ' Matilda (Maud) Pilkington was born circa 1371 [NO] at of Pilkington, Lancashire, England.3 She married Sir John Arderne, son of Sir Thomas de Arderne and Katherine Stafford, before 1396 at of Pilkington, Lancashire, England; They had 1 daughter (Maud).2 Matilda (Maud) Pilkington married Sir Robert Babthorpe, Sheriff of Staffordshire before 1412; There was no issue by this marriage.2 Matilda (Maud) Pilkington died in 1423.2
• 'Family 1 Sir John Arderne b. 12 Mar 1369, d. 2 Jul 1408
• Child
  • ◦Maud (Matilda) Arderne+4,2 b. 2 Jul 1396, d. bt 1430 - 1432
• 'Family 2 Sir Robert Babthorpe, Sheriff of Staffordshire b. c 1370, d. 22 Aug 1436
• Citations
• 1.[S9218] Unknown author, The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, by Gerald Paget, Vol. 2, p. 406; The Pilkington Family, by Lt. Col. John Pilkington, 3rd Ed., 1912, p. 42/3; Wallop Family, p. 30.
• 2.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 23-24.
• 3.[S929] Lt. Col. John Pilkington, The Pilkington Family, p. 38-43.
• 4.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 283.
• http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p983.htm#i...
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• 'Full text of "History of the Pilkington family of Lancashire and its branches, from 1066 to 1600"
• http://www.archive.org/stream/historyofpilking00pilk/historyofpilki...
• 'History of the Pilkington family of Lancashire and its branches, from 1066 to 1600 (1912)
• http://www.archive.org/details/historyofpilking00pilk
• http://www.archive.org/stream/historyofpilking00pilk#page/40/mode/1up
• The issue by the marriage with Alicia de Bury comprised four sons and three daughters, viz. : —
  • 1. Roger, of whom see Descent IX.
  • 2. Robert, the second son, who was born in 1329, and the date of whose death was not earlier than 1399. . . .
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/historyofpilking00pilk#page/42/mode/1up
  • 3. Henry, the third son; described as "Henry son of Sir Roger" in a suit of 1356, regarding lands in Highfield, Farnworth, . . . . .
  • 4. Richard, was the fourth son of Sir Roger. He became Rector of Prestwich in 1361 on the nomination of Richard de Radcliffe, and held the benefice until his death in 1400.114 . . . . .
• Sir Roger de Pilkington's three daughters were : —
  • (1.) Jane, who became the wife of John del More, of Liverpool.116
  • ' (2.) Margaret, who married Sir John son of Sir Thomas de Ardern117 of Elford, co. Staff., by whom there was issue an only daughter Matilda who became the wife of Thomas the third son of Sir John de Stanley, K.G., of Lathom. After the death of Sir John de Ardern in 1408 Margaret married Sir Robert Babthorp as his second wife, by whom she had no issue and died 1423.
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/historyofpilking00pilk#page/43/mode/1up
  • (3.) Isabel, who married Nicholas de Prestwich.
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• 'Collections for a History of Staffordshire (1903) Volume VI. New Semes, part II.
• http://www.archive.org/details/collectionsfora11socigoog
• http://www.archive.org/stream/collectionsfora11socigoog#page/n203/m...
• Five years after this date, and when Hugh Wrottesley was nine years of age, an event occurred which materially affected his interests. 'Sir John Arderne, of Aldford, died in 9 Henry IV, leaving an only daughter', and under the settlement made of the Arderne estates in 21 Edward III, these should now have devolved on the issue of Robert de Legh and Hugh de Wrottesley as right heirs of Sir John Arderne and Elena, who had died in 1349.
• ' The Inquisition on the death of Sir John Arderne was taken at Chester on the 18 June, 9 Henry IV (1408)', on the oath of three Knights and nine Esquires of co. Chester, who stated that a certain Robert de Hampton, late Parson of the church of Alderley, and John, son of Roger de Motlowe, were formerly seised in demesne as of fee of the manors of Aldeford, Alderley, and Echeles, and of the advowsons of the churches of Aldeford and Alderley, and of an annual rent of £10 from the manor of Upton in Wyrehale, and had granted the same to John de Ardene and Elena, his wife, for their lives, with remainder to one Thomas, the son of Elena, and the heirs male of his body, and failing such, to Walkeline, the brother of Thomas and the heirs male of his body, and failing such, to the right heirs of John de Ardene and Elena, and failing such, to the right heirs of John de Ardene for ever. And John de Ardene and Elena had issue lawfully begotten Matilda and Isabella, and John and Elena had died without leaving any male issue lawfully begotten, and after the death of John de Ardene and Elena, the abovenamed Thomas had entered into the said manors, advowsons and rent in virtue of the remainder, and he had issue 'John de Ardene, Knight'; and Thomas died, seised in demesne as of fee tail of the said manors, advowsons and rent, and after his death, they descended to the said 'John, son of Thomas, who had entered, and had died seised of them, as of fee tail, and had left no male heir'; and they stated that Robert de Legh, *http://www.archive.org/stream/collectionsfora11socigoog#page/n204/m...
• the son of Robert de Legh, married the said Matilda, and they had issue Robert de Legh, Kt., which Robert de Legh, Kt., had issue Robert de Legh, who was now surviving ; and Matilda had died, and Robert de Legh, son of the said Robert and Matilda, had died inde seisitus.1 And they stated also that one Hugh de Wrotteslegh, Knight, had married the above named Isabella, and they had issue one John de Wrotteslegh, and John had issue Hugh de Wrotteslegh, who was now surviving. And Hugh the elder and his wife, Isabella, had died, and John, their son, had likewise died, and therefore the right to the said manors, advowsons and rent, after the death of the said 'John, son' of Thomas (de Ardene) should remain to the said Robert, son of Robert de Legh, Kt., as son and heir of the said Robert de Legh, Kt., son and heir of the said Matilda, daughter and one of the heirs of John de Ardene and Elena, and to the said Hugh, son and heir of the said John, son and heir of Hugh, the son and heir of the said Isabella, the other daughter and heir of John de Ardene and Elena.
• And they stated that the manor of Echells was held of the Lord Lestraunge, as of his manor of Dunham Massy, by military service, and was worth £50 a year, and that the manor of Aldeford was held of the Prince, as Earl of Chester, in capite by military service, and was worth £40 a year, and the manor of Aldelegh was held of the Prince, as Earl of Chester, in capite by military service, and was worth £10 a year, and that the manor of Upton, from which the rent proceeded, was held of the Prince, as Earl of Chester, in capite by military service ; and that the said 'John de Ardene, Kt., had died on the Monday before the Feast of the Apostles Peter and Paul last past', and that the said Robert de Legh was forty years of age and upwards, and the said Hugh was eight years of age.2
• On the return of this Inquisition into the Chancery at Chester, the usual course would have been to issue a writ to the Escheator, to make a partition of the lands, and to give seisin of a moiety of them to Robert de Legh, whilst the other moiety would have been taken into the hands of the Prince, as Earl of Chester and superior lord, saving in both cases the dower of the 'widow of Sir John ; but Margaret, the widow of Sir John Arderne, now came forward'
  • 1 Sir Robert de Legh survived 'Sir John de Arderne', and had taken possession of the manors. The Inquisition taken on his death in 9 Henry IV states he died seised of the manors of Alderley, Upton and Adlington held in capite of the Earl, and of the manor of Echels held of Lord Strange as of his manor of Dunham Mascy.
• http://www.archive.org/stream/collectionsfora11socigoog#page/n205/m...
• 'and claimed to hold the whole estate for her life, under a settlement made by her husband, and the matter was brought before the Palatine Court by the Chamberlain of Chester.
• The Chester Pleas of 10 Henry IV, state that Thomas Barneby, the Chamberlain of Chester, produced in Court an Inquisition which had been taken before Richard de Manley, the Escheator, and which was in these words (here follows the Inquisition as given above).
• ' And Margaret, late wife of the said John, son of Thomas de Ardene, Kt, appeared by attorney, and denied that the said Robert de Hampton and John, son of Roger, had been seised of the manors, advowsons and rent, and had conveyed them as shewn in the Inquisition ; and she stated that the said John, son of Thomas (de Arderne), had been seised of the manors and advowsons of Aldeford and Alderlegh, and had granted them to John Pygot, Peter de Bulkelegh of Chedle, William del Holt the elder, Hugh de Bostok, Roger de Pylkyngton, Knight, John de Pylkyngton, Knight, John de Dalton, Knight, Thomas Gerard, Knight, Laurence de Standysshe, of co. Lancaster, Thomas de Gresley, of co. Derby, Knight, Thomas de Aston, Knight, and ten others named, and to their heirs (the license of the Prince, as Earl of Chester, having been first obtained), and the said John, Peter, William and the others named, by their deed, which she produced in Court, and which was dated from Aldeford on the Monday after the Assumption of the Blessed Mary, 7 Henry IV., had granted them to the said John, son of Thomas (de Arderne), and to Margaret, his wife, and to the heirs of their bodies ; by virtue of which grant the said John, son of Thomas, and Margaret were seised of the said manors and advowsons, during the lifetime of John, son of Thomas. And John, son of Thomas, afterwards died, and she had continued her status in the manors by virtue of the above grant, and therefore John, son of Thomas, had not died sole seised of them, as stated in the Inquisition, and she asked that the Prince, as Earl of Chester, might remove his hand, and that she might have restitution of them.
• ' And as regarded the manor of Echeles, she denied that the said Robert (de Hampton), and John, son of Roger, had been seised of it and had granted it to John de Arderne, and Elena his wife, as shewn in the Inquisition, and she stated that a Fine had been levied in full county of Chester, on the Tuesday before the Feast of Pentecost, 22 Richard II, between the said John, son of Thomas (de Arderne), and Margaret, his wife, complainants, and Nicholas de Prestwich, chaplain, deforciant, of the manor of Echeles, by which it had been settled on John and Margaret, and the heirs of their bodies, and by virtue of which Fine, they had been
• http://www.archive.org/stream/collectionsfora11socigoog#page/n206/m...
• 'seised of the manor, during the lifetime of John, and after John had died she had continued her status in the said manor, until removed by the above Inquisition, and she asked therefore, that the Prince should remove his hand, and that she might have restitution of it.
• The Prince's attorney denied the allegations of 'Margaret', and appealed to a jury, which was to be summoned for the Tuesday after the close of Easter, on which day a jury found in favour of 'Margaret' on all the issues, and stated that the rent of £10 proceeding from the manor of Upton had always been part of the manor of Aldford. It was therefore considered that the Prince should remove his hand and that 'Margaret' should have restitution of the said manors and advowsons and rent, with all issues and profits from them from the date of her removal.
• This judgment left the Arderne estates in the illegitimate descendants of Sir John de Arderne, who died in 23 Edward III. 'John de Arderne, the husband of Margaret, the plaintiff in the above suit, left an only daughter and heiress, Matilda, who married Thomas de Stanley.' There appears, however, to have been an appeal from this judgment and a compromise, for the Inquisition on Robert de Legh, who died in 3 Henry V, states he was seised of an annual rent of £10, granted to him and his heirs by Thomas de Stanley, to be received from the manor of Alderley. Later generations of the Leghs, however, did not acquiesce in this compromise, and the endeavours of the Leghs and Wrottesleys to recover the Arderne estates are recorded at intervals on the Cheshire Plea Rolls for more than a hundred years after this date.
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• 'Collections for a history of Staffordshire, Volume 1 By Staffordshire Record Society Pg.281
• http://books.google.com/books?id=iSfQAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA281&lpg=PA281&dq...
• CHART
• 1. John de Arderne d. 1349 m. Elena (de Wasteneys, his cousin, who survived him)
  • 2. Sir Thomas de Arderne d. 1391 m. Matilda (Stafford)
    • '3. Sir John de Arderne b. abt. 1370 d. July 16, 1408 m. Margaret (Pilkington), who survived him
      • 4. Matilda (de Arderne), sole heiress: b. July 2, 1396 m. Sir Thomas Stanley, d. May 13, 1463
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It was in the service of Henry IV that Robert Babthorpe built his career. He was described as a king's esquire by 1403, though there is no record of him in Lancastrian service before the usurpation of 1399. It is possible that he owed his preferment to an association with John Waterton of Waterton, Lincolnshire, whose brother Sir Hugh and cousin Robert were leading figures in the new regime. Certainly, Babthorpe later married John Waterton's daughter and heir Eleanor, probably in 1409–10.

After Eleanor's death he took as his second wife Bridget Pilkington, of the Lancashire family.

Babthorpe served as sheriff of Staffordshire in 1414–15; as an outsider in the shire he seems to have played a mediating role as part of Henry V's intervention to settle the disorder that had developed there in the latter years of the previous reign. …

The Prince of Wales Vs Margaret, Widow of John son of Thomas de Ardene

In 10 Henry IV [30 September, 1408-29 September, 1409] at Chester, the prince of Wales, as earl of Chester, versus Margaret formerly wife of John, son of Thomas de Ardene, in a suit for the right to the manors of Aldford, Alderdelegh and Echeles, the advowsons of the churches of Aldford and Alderdelegh, and a rent of ten marks from the manor of Upton in Wyrehale. The pleadings show the following descent:[1]

John de Ardene, seised of the manors, advowsons and rent, in the reign of Edward III [1327-1377], married Elena, and had two sons and two daughters:

1. Thomas, who had:
   1. John de Ardene, living 8 Henry IV [30 September, 1406-29 September, 1407], but dead by 10 Henry IV, married Margaret, the plaintiff;
2. Walkeline, who died with no surviving children;
3. Matilda, who was married to Robert, son of Robert de Legh, and had:
   1. Robert de Legh, Kt, living 10 Henry IV;
4. Isabella, who was married to Hugh de Wrotteslegh, and they had:
   1. John de Wrotteslegh, who had:
      1. Hugh de Wrotteslegh, living in 10 Henry IV.

The pleadings also state that Thomas and Walkeline were illegitimate, being styled sons of Elena only— and that John de Ardene, the husband of Elena, had left no male heir of his body. Margaret claimed under a settlement made by her husband in 8 Henry IV [30 September 1406-29 September 1407], a licence of alienation having been obtained from the prince of Wales, as earl of Chester, and a verdict was given in her favour. Under a previous settlement of 21 Edward III [25 January, 1347-24 January, 1348], also made with the licence of the prince of Wales, as earl of Chester, the same properties had been settled on John de Ardene and Elena, his wife, for their lives, with remainder to Thomas, son of Elena, and their heirs male of his body, with remainder to Walcheline, brother of Thomas, and the heirs male of his body, and failing such, to the heirs of the bodies of John and Elena. Under the first settlement, the Arderne estates would have been divided between Robert de Legh and Hugh de Wrottesley.[1]

Sources

1. Public Record Office, Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls Collected from the Pleadings in the Various Courts of Law AD 1200 to 1500 from the Original Rolls, ed. Major-General The Hon G Wrottesley, (1905), 256. < Archive.Org > accessed 11 June, 2022. [Chester Pleas: 10. Hen. 4. m. 9].
2. Lewis, M. Sir John Arderne. ORTNCA, citing various works by Douglas Richardson & Lt. Col. John Pilkington. < link >
3. Lewis, M. (2019, December 1). "Matilda (Maud) Pilkington #29517, b. circa 1371, d. 1423." ORTNCA, citing Paget; various works by Douglas RIchardson; Pilkington (1912). < link >
4. RIchardson, D. (2011). "Thomas Stanley," in Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd ed., p. 104. < GoogleBooks > Richardson, D. (2011). "Thomas Stanley," in Plantagenet Ancestry, 2nd ed, p. 680. < GoogleBooks >.
5. Pilkington, 1912, p. 42-43.[1]
6. Lewis (2019, December 1). Sir Roger Pilkington b. 1325, d. 02 Jan 1406. ORTNCA, citing Douglas Richardson. < link >