Pleasant H. Tidwell

Pleasant was a Cherokee man

Biography

Pleasant was born in Georgia about 1844, the son of John Tidwell, a Cherokee, and Mary Lucretia Thompson, a white woman. [1] There were questions regarding the family's claims to Cherokee ancestry and John and his children, including Pleasant, appear only provisionally on the 1851 Siler Roll. [2] John enlisted as soldier in the Civil War, serving from 1861, was taken prisoner in Virginia in 1864 and spent eight months as a prisoner of war at the infamous Point Lookout camp [3] in Maryland before his release in March, 1865. [4] He married Martha Carnes in October, 1863. They were the parents of Mary, Thomas, Lobelia, [5] Caroline, Lucretia, Martha, Eliza, Rhoda, [6] Anna, James, and Jasper. The family moved to Indian Territory about 1888 and Pleasant was readmitted to Cherokee citizenship in September, 1888. [7] The 1900 U.S. census shows John, Martha, and son James living in the Cherokee Nation . [8]

The 1910 and 1920 Censuses show Pleasant and Martha living with son James and his family. [9] Pleasant died August 6, 1922 and is buried at the Stilwell Cemetery, Adair, Oklahoma. [10]

Research Notes:

• Cherokee Citizenship paper 9/1888
• Cherokee by Blood
• Dawes Card Number 6164
• Pleasent Tidwell, Male, Spouse's Name Martha Carrers, Female, Marriage 28 Oct 1863 Paulding, Georgia, United States"Georgia Marriages, 1808-1967", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FW63-K22 : 11 January 2020), Pleasent Tidwell, 1863.

• Name P H Tidwell

Sex Male
Age 66
Birth Year (Estimated) 1844
Birthplace Georgia
Marital Status Married
Race Indian
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship Code Head
Father's Birthplace Georgia
Mother's Birthplace Georgia
Event Type Census
Event Date 1910
Event Place Hogan, Mayes, Oklahoma, United States
Event Place (Original) , Mayes, Oklahoma, United States
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 59
"United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLQV-CK4 : accessed 16 July 2023), P H Tidwell, Hogan, Mayes, Oklahoma, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 86, sheet 59A, family 116, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 1262; FHL microfilm 1,375,275.

• Pleasant Tidwell Dawes Enrollment Jacket for Cherokee, Cherokee, Card #D894.pdf here: https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000196384891855

Civil War Veteran

• Enlisted as a Private on 25 June 1861
• Enlisted in Company H, 19th Infantry Regiment Georgia on 25 June 1861
• POW on 19 August 1864 at Weldon Railroad, VA
• Paroled on 15 March 1865 at Point Lookout, MD
• Transferred on 15 March 1865 at Aiken's Landing, VA

Children

Lobelia Caroline Tidwell, b. Dec. 25, 1863 in GA
Mary Melinda Tidwell, b. Jan. 13, 1866 in GA
Thomas James Tidwell, b. Oct. 13, 1867 in GA
Lacretia Obrn Tidwell, b. March 31, 1872 in GA
Martha VanDonna Tidwell, b. March 20, 1874 in GA
Eliza Leanna Tidwell, b. June 24, 1876 in GA
Rhoda E. Tidwell, b. June 8, 1878 in GA
Anna Tidwell, b. 1880 in GA
James Pleasant Tidwell, b. April 11, 1881 in GA
Jasper G. Tidwell, b. March 11, 1885 in GA (Contribued by Alice Preston)

Sources

1. ↑ "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch ("United States Census, 1850", database with images, FamilySearch (ark:/61903/1:1:MZYK-BMX : Mon Jul 03 14:46:14 UTC 2023), Entry for John Tidwell and Cresa Tidwell, 1850.).
2. ↑ Blankenship Bob, transcriber. Cherokee Roots, Vol. 1, Eastern Cherokee Rolls. Self-published. Cherokee, N.C. 1992. p. 60 Images available at Ancestry.com
3. ↑ Lookout
4. ↑ Enlisted as a Private in Company H, 19th Infantry Regiment Georgia on 25 June 1861; POW on 19 August 1864 at Weldon Railroad, VA; Paroled on 15 March 1865 at Point Lookout, MD; Transferred on 15 March 1865 at Aiken's Landing, VA; record digitized at Fold3 record

5. ↑ "United States Census, 1870", database with images, FamilySearch ("United States Census, 1870", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MC32-CSP : 28 May 2021), Pleasant Tidwell, 1870.), Pleasant Tidwell, 1870.

6. ↑ "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8LV-XZK : 19 February 2021), Pleasant Tidwell, Oregon and Red Rock, Cobb, Georgia, United States; citing enumeration district ED 28, sheet 29A, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), FHL microfilm 1,254,141.

7. ↑ Dawes Application #6164 "Oklahoma Applications for Enrollment to the Five Civilized Tribes, 1898-1914," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XV8T-7J4 : 7 July 2017), Pleasant H Tidwell, 1898-1914; from "Applications for Enrollment of the Commission to the Five Civilized Tribes, 1898-1914," database, Fold3.com (http://wwwfold3.com : 2008); citing case number 6164, NARA microfilm publication M1301 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 220 here: Pleasant Tidwell Dawes Enrollment Jacket for Cherokee, Cherokee, Card #D894.pdf @ https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000196385027843

8. ↑ "United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSRL-PSR : accessed 11 September 2021), Pleasant H Tidwell, Township 17 N. Range 25 E., Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 35, sheet 7B, family 49, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,241,845.

9. ↑ "United States Census, 1920", database with images, FamilySearch "United States Census, 1920", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ9X-CCH : 3 February 2021), P H Tidwell in entry for James P Tidwell, 1920.
Gravestone

10. ↑ Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/99880692/pleasant-h-tidwell : accessed 11 September 2021), memorial page for Pleasant H Tidwell (9 Sep 1843–6 Aug 1922), Find a Grave Memorial ID 99880692, citing Stilwell Cemetery, Stilwell, Adair County, Oklahoma, USA ; Maintained by MillieBelle (contributor 46628380) .

Source: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Tidwell-1050 (edited by dvb)
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Curator Note: John Tidwell had a white mother and married two white women. Winnie may not have ever actually been married to Young Deer. Her second husband was John Goddard, supposedly mixed-blood but there is no Goddard on the 1835 census. John Tidwell went west before the 1835 Census so was technically an "Old Settler" making him and his descendants ineligible for the Eastern Payment. He didn't stay long in Indian Territory retuning to Georgia in less than a year.

Card D894 is for Martha Tidwell, Pleasant's white wife. I don't think she ever came off the doubtful card, I don't find an allotment for her. They weren't married in the Cherokee Nation and I don't think they ever proved she was eligible. John's wife Lucretia was also disallowed after he died.

and…

The Tidwell's were accepted as Cherokee by the Cherokee Nation so they are Cherokee.

John Tidwell and many (not sure if it's all) of his children were readmitted to Cherokee citizenship in 1888 and was enrolled by the Dawes Commission but he died before the cut off to get an allotment. Dawes Card 519.

Pleasant, Lodusky, Lucretia (mother) Mary all readmitted in 1888,
Saphronia and Versanoy readmitted in 1890

I haven't looked all of them up, but assume all that who went to Indian Territory in time were approved.

Miller rejected them because John was not on the 1835 census and they were rejected by Siler for the same reason. You had to prove direct descent from someone on the 1835 roll in order to qualify for the Eastern payment.