Tasgalodigisgi ‘Thomas’ Foreman, Sr.

Thomas was a Cherokee man

Biography

Thomas Foreman was born in the Cherokee Nation (East) about 1782. He was the son of John Anthony Foreman, a white man, and his Cherokee wife Susie.

Thomas married Susannah (Wuttie) Fields about 1803. They were the parents of fourteen children, Samuel, Nellie, Charles, William, Joseph, Sally, David, George, Thomas, Susan, James, Edward, and Elizabeth. [1] Thomas took a reservation under the Treaty of 1817. The Foreman family of fourteen appears in the 1835 Cherokee census living on Candy's Creek (now Tennessee). [2] They were Removed to Indian Territory in the Hair Conrad detachment over the Trail of Tears; when Conrad was unable to continue, Thomas took over leadership of the detachment. In 1851 Thomas, Susannah, and six of their children were living in the Going Snake District, Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory. [3]

Thomas served the Cherokee Nation in many capacities. He was a signer of both the 1827 constitution and the 1839 constitution, a senator, and a member of the Executive Council. [4] His date of death is unknown.

Sources

1. ↑ Starr, Emmet. History of the Cherokee Indians. Oklahoma Yesterday Publications edition, Tulsa, OK. 1979. pp.306 & 310
2. ↑ Tyner, James. Those Who Cried. Transcript of 1835 Cherokee census. Chi-ga-u, Inc. Norman, OK. 1974. p. 170
3. ↑ Drennen Roll of “Emigrant Cherokee,” 1851. Series 7RA-01. Records of the Bureau of Indian Affairs, Record Group 75. The National Archives at Fort Worth, Fort Worth, Texas. Going Snake District, p. 146, Family #329
4. ↑ Starr, Emmet. History of the Cherokee Indians.

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THOMAS FOREMAN, SR (JOHN ANTHONY2, JOHN ANTHONY1) was born Abt. 1782 in CNE [TN], and died Aft. 1851.
He married SUSANNAH FIELDS Bef. 1804, daughter of RICHARD FIELDS and NANCY AUGUSTA.
She was born Abt. 1780 in CNE [TN], and died Aft. 1851.

• "Cherokee Cavaliers" by Edward Everett Dale and Aaston Litton:

A letter written from W.M. Thompson to Elias Boudinot from Cassvill GA, November 5th 1838 reads: "Hair [Conrad] of Candey's Creek Conducted the #2 detachment.By some means he was removed and Thomis Foreman became its Conducter."Hair Conrad started with about 850 people. The number had been reduced to about 650 when they reached Indian Territory early in January.

• In the book "OLD CHEROKEE FAMILIES" by Emmet Starr it states that before Samuel was born there was a daughter born to Thomas (mother unknown).
• 1817-19 Reservations: July 1817, # 10, on road from McNair's to Knoxville, Native, 11 in family
• 1835 Census roll: Ooltewah, TN, 6M18-, 3M18+, 3F16-, 4F16+
• 1835 Smith Resolution: Amohee, voted Nay; anti-treaty
• 1851 Drennan roll: Going Snake, 329
• Blood: 1/2 Cherokee
• Clan: Ani'-Wâ'di = Red Paint (Susie Gourd)
• Detachment: October 05, 1838, 38-01 Daniel Colston/J Nevins; as Manager
• Residence: 1817, On the road from McNair's to Knoxville, TN
• Starr's Notes: C807

Notes for SUSANNAH FIELDS:

• Twin to Thomas Fields. Starr lists Susannah's husbands as George Brewer and Thomas Foreman. In Starr's Grant family he lists the children of Susannah and Thomas differently than he does in the Foreman family.They are compiled here in accordance with his Foreman listing. On page 558 of Starr's book Susannah is listed as Susannah "Brown" nee Fields yet the only spouse listed for her is George Brewer.
• 1851 Drennan roll: Going Snake, 329 as Susanna Foreman
• Blood: 1/2 Cherokee
• Clan: Ani'-Gilâ'hi = Twisters, Braids, or Long Hair Clan (Mary Grant)
• Starr's Notes: C807

Children of THOMAS FOREMAN and SUSANNAH FIELDS are:
20. i. SAMUEL TSI-S-TA-TSI4 FOREMAN, b. Abt. 1804, CNE; d. 1845.
21. ii. NELLIE FOREMAN, b. Abt. 1806; d. Bef. 1906.
22. iii. CHARLES FOREMAN, SR, b. 1808; d. Bef. 1906.

	iv.	 	SALLY FOREMAN, b. Abt. 1809; d. Infant.

• Blood: 1/2 Cherokee
• Clan: Ani'-Gilâ'hi = Twisters, Braids, or Long Hair Clan (Mary Grant)

23. v. NANNIE NV-TSI FOREMAN, b. Abt. 1810, CNE [TN]; d. December 31, 1866.
24. vi. JOSEPH ANTHONY FOREMAN, b. January 21, 1811; d. November 20, 1850, Georgia.

	vii.	 	WILLIAM HICKS FOREMAN, b. 1812; m. MARY SWEETWATER, Bef. 1851; b. Abt. 1825.

• 1851 Drennan roll: Flint, 302
• Blood: 1/2 Cherokee (Candy's Creek Mission)
• Clan: Ani'-Gilâ'hi = Twisters, Braids, or Long Hair Clan (Mary Grant)
• Education: January 08, 1828, Candy's Creek Mission School
• Starr's Notes: H431

	More About MARY SWEETWATER:

• 1851 Drennan roll: Flint, 302 as Mary Foreman
• Starr's Notes: H431

25. viii. SUSAN HENDRICKS FOREMAN, b. Abt. 1814; d. Bef. 1906.
26. ix. DAVID MCNAIR FOREMAN, b. July 1816; d. Bef. 1906.

	x.	 	JAMES FOREMAN, b. Abt. 1818; d. Bef. 1906.

• Blood: 1/2 Cherokee
• Clan: Ani'-Gilâ'hi = Twisters, Braids, or Long Hair Clan (Mary Grant)

27. xi. GEORGE FOREMAN, b. 1820; d. Bef. 1906.
28. xii. THOMAS FOREMAN, JR, b. 1822, CNE [TN]; d. Abt. 1852.
29. xiii. EDWARD NED FOREMAN, b. Abt. 1824; d. Abt. 1882.
30. xiv. ELIZABETH FOREMAN, b. March 07, 1826; d. Abt. 1899.

Source: Hicks, James R. “Cherokee Lineages: Register Report of John Anthony Foreman I” Genealogy.com, Sites.Rootsweb.com, https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0013...
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Thomas Foreman, Sr. (Anthony2, John Anthony1) was born Abt. 1782 in Cherokee Nation East Tennessee, and died Abt. 1854 in Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory, Oklahoma.
He married (1) Unknown. She died Unknown.
He married (2) Susannah Fields Abt. 1800 in Cherokee Nation East, daughter of Richard Fields and Nancy Augusta. She was born Abt. 1784 in Cherokee Nation East, and died Unknown.

• THOMAS FOREMAN, from the "Going Snake Messenger," Vol. VII, No. 4, pages 80, 81, 82, 83, written by Lulu Boggs. By 1817, the United States Government was putting pressure on the Cherokees to move to the West.The Treaties of 1817 and 1819 did provide that a certain number of Cherokees could remain in the East on individual reservations. Thomas Foreman was on the July, 1817 Treaty.

"At the August meeting of the Nation Council, at Red Clay, Tennessee, tempers erupted.The Council was convened on August 18th and adjourned the following Saturday. The first day was devoted to routine correspondence with the Federal Government. On the second day, August 19, John Ross addressed the Council stating reasons for opposing the U.S. Governmental policies.Prior to the meeting of the Council, according to Ben Durry, the Ross faction had spread the usual "false hopes," rhetorically "hid in ambiguity and mystery. "Nevertheless, Ross and his lieutenants completely controlled the mood of the meeting.
After Ross spoke, Tom Foreman rose and addressed the Council. Optimistically, he pointed out that President Jackson had been forced to sign a law permitting trade between the Eastern and Western Cherokee, and has also been compelled to release the Cherokee annuity payments. Foreman quickly turned his attention to the treaty advocates, calling them enemies of the Nation. Foreman said that relief for the Cherokee would have already been obtained if it had not been for the treaty supporters.They had, Foreman asserted, persuaded a number of ill-advised Indians to enroll, and these had either died enroute, or would die during the summer. Of the treaty advocates, Foreman declared:

    "These men might as well carry a poisoned cup to your mouths and say, 'drink this and I will give you so much money'! or, let me give you money to allow me to kill you."

Laughter followed and scornful eyes turned toward the Ridges. Foreman pointed out that Major Ridge was a member of the Executive Council, but yet had gone "to Washington to do some things against his country." Foreman also noted that Major Ridge had traveled through out the Nation with other tribal leaders, urging the people to:

    "....love their land, and in his earnestness stamped the ground. The ground was yet sunk where he stamped and now he was talking another way.Yet these men have good clothes on - why could they not be satisfied with their property and not try to suck for more in the veins of their country?"

The remark about "good clothes" may have directed some attention toward John Walker, Jr., who was known for his fashionable dress. Foreman's speech aroused the already embittered audience. John Ridge reported later that he heard one of them, Parch Corn, (who he discredited as having run away from the Georgia side for stealing) say "Let's kill them!"
Because of the emotionalism at the Council, John Walker, Jr. decided to go home. He was accompanied by Dick Jackson of Athens, Tennessee.Two members of the Ross Faction, James Foreman and Anderson Springston, left the ground shortly thereafter.
John Ridge then rose and expressed his surprise at Foreman's speech. He strongly upheld his father saying:

    "Major Ridge (has) with distinguished zeal and ability served his country.He saw that it was on the precipice of ruin, ready to tumble down.He (has) told of their danger.Did he tell truth or not?Let every man look at our circumstances and judge for himself.(Is) a man to be denounced for his opinions? If a man (sees) a cloud charged with rain, thunder and storm..... (and urges) the people to take care.....is that man to be hated or.....respected?

    Foreman (has) told untruths to prejudice your minds against certain men to gratify his malice.The Delegation (has) given us a candid report - I believe they (have) hid nothing from us.

    If offered no hope of relief against our suffering country. Why should we embitter each others feelings.But, if the presence of Major Ridge and myself in (this) Council, which we thought was ours also, is disagreeable to you we know how to stay away.

    What would become of our Nation if we were all like Tom Foreman? Could any good grow out of our Councils?We should now fall together and twist each others noses. Our eyes would not remain in their sockets, but in general we (would) gouge them out."

Major Ridge then defended himself in a dignified talk, remarking that he did not have the vanity to hope for honors in his old age. After expressing the belief that his life's course was almost run, he said:

    "It may be that Foreman has better expectations and that he should, in slandering men, establish his fame among you. But I have no expectations that he will enjoy it long, for we have no government. It is entirely suppressed. Where are your laws! The seats of your judges are overturned. When I look upon you all, I hear you laugh at me. When harsh words are uttered by men who know better.....I feel, on your account, oppressed with sorrow. I mourn over your calamity, and fatal delusion in which you are bound.You can never stand on Freedom's ground again. This man will not reap my harvest of glory if he expects to be a great man in your estimation.It is past remedy. I am not angry at the people. I know how to feel for your condition - But - as for you who know better and hold your law to yourselves, I tell you that you shall not make a treaty by yourselves.You shall be carefully watched in your movements."

Put on the defensive, Foreman denied the accusation of slander. He quickly reaffirmed the truth of his statements and requested a letter from a recent Arkansas immigrant be read to the Council. The letter was read by John Ross and translated into Cherokee by Ned Gunter. The immigrant told of sickness among the newly arrived Cherokees and urged his parents to remain East even if they had to rent land, and await his return in the fall."

• Notes from Journal of Cherokee Studies, Volume I, No. 1

A letter written from W.M. Thompson to Elias Boudinot from Cassvill Georgia November 5th 1838 reads:"Hair of Candeys Creek conducted the 2 detachment. By some mens he was removed and Thomis Foreman became its Conducter.". Hair Conrad started with about 850 people.The number had been reduced to about 650 when they reached Indian Territory early in January.
This came from the book "Cherokee Cavaliers" by Edward Everett Dale and Aaston Litton, Foreword by James W. Parins.

• Hair Conrad's party was detached on August 23, 1838 and arrived January 17, 1839. 729 depart, 654 arrive 9 births, 57 deaths, 24 desertions, 14 accessions. Hair Conrad became ill and Daniel Colston was the Conductor of this party.
• In the book "OLD CHEROKEE FAMILIES" by Emmet Starr it states that before Samuel was born there was a daughter born to Thomas (mother unknown).
• Thomas Foreman is listed on the 1835 Census OOLTEWAH, Tennessee (Candy's Creek) Fourteen halfbloods and two quarter bloods. A farm and three farmers. Six read English and five read Cherokee. Three weavers and three spinners.
• Thomas Foreman was the town Chief of Amohee town, located near the Mouse Creek and Candy's Creek communities listed on the 1835 census.
• Clan: Paint Clan
• Drennen Roll: 1851, #329 Goingsnake District
• Elected: 1818, Member Committee Amohee District, 1833 Vice-President Cherokee Temperance, 1843-1847
• Member Committee Goingsnake District, 1847-1849, Member of Executive Council, 1851-1853 Member of Executive Council
• Reservation Roll: 1817, Signed for 640 acre Reservation
• Signer: 1817, Signed as Head Man, 1823 Signed Cherokee-Creek Treaty, 1839, Signed Act of Union

Notes for Susannah Fields:

• I believe that Rev. Hollands notes referring to Nancy Fields, mother of Susie is Susie Fields' mother and not Susie of the Paint Clan. Susie of the Paint Clan would be her mother-in-law.
• Cherokee Name: Su-sa-ni
• Clan: Long Haired Clan
• Degree of Blood: 1/8 Cherokee Indian
• Marriage: Abt. 1800, Cherokee Nation East

Child of Thomas Foreman and Unknown is:
+ 32 i. Nannie4 Foreman, born Abt. 1805 in Cherokee Nation East; died December 31, 1866.

Children of Thomas Foreman and Susannah Fields are:
+ 33 i. Samuel4 Foreman, born Abt. 1800 in Cherokee Nation East, Georgia; died WFT Est. 1823-1856.
+ 34 ii. Nellie Foreman, born Abt. 1802 in Cherokee Nation East; died Unknown.
+ 35 iii. Charles Foreman, born Abt. 1804 in Cherokee Nation East, Candy's Creek, Tennessee; died 1844 in Going Snake District, Cherokee Nation West.

	36	iv.	 	William Hicks Foreman, born Abt. 1806 in Cherokee Nation East; died Unknown. He married Mary Sweetwater; died Unknown.

• WILLIAM HICKS FOREMAN was a Wagoner for Elijah Hicks Detachment Party on the Trail of Tears.
• Clan: Long Haired Clan
• Drennen Roll: 1851, #302 Flint District
• Occupation: Bet. 1845 - 1848, Solicitor of Flint District

+ 37 v. Joseph Anthony Foreman, born January 21, 1811 in Cherokee Nation East, Candy's Creek; died November 20, 1850 in Georgia.

	38	vi.	 	Sally Foreman, born Abt. 1812 in Cherokee Nation East; died Unknown in Died Early.

• Clan: Long Haired Clan

+ 39 vii. George Foreman, born Abt. 1814 in Cherokee Nation East; died Unknown.
+ 40 viii. Thomas Foreman, Jr., born Abt. 1816 in Cherokee Nation East Tennessee; died June 18, 1861.
+ 41 ix. Rev. David McNair Foreman, born July 1816 in Cherokee Nation East, Georgia; died Unknown.

	42	x.	 	Susan Hendricks Foreman, born Abt. 1820 in Cherokee Nation East; died Unknown.

• She married (1) Samuel Jones; died Unknown.
• She married (2) Walter Stopp; died Unknown.
• Clan: Long Haired Clan

	43	xi.	 	James Foreman, born Abt. 1822 in Cherokee Nation East; died Unknown in Died Early.

• Clan: Long Haired Clan

+ 44 xii. Edward Foreman, born Abt. 1824 in Cherokee Nation, East; died Abt. 1887 in Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory.
+ 45 xiii. Elizabeth Foreman, born March 07, 1826 in Cherokee Nation East; died 1898 in Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory.

Source: Foreman, Lynda S. “User Home Page Book: The Foreman Family: NGS Quarterly Report of John Anthony Foreman I.” Genealogy.Com, 15 Feb. 2004, https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/f/o/r/Lynda-S-Foreman/BOOK-0001/0004-...
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3 Thomas Foreman. Susannah Brewer nee Fields.

131 Nannie Foreman. Allen Gafford and Martin North.
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2 Samuel Foreman. Sallie Rattlinggourd.
3 Nellie Foreman. Adam Bibles.
4 Charles Foreman. Annie Seabolt and Thirsey Colvin.
5 William Hicks Foreman. * Mary Sweetwater.
6 Joseph Anthony Foreman. Narcissa Reaves Carey and Lethe Parris.
7 Sallie Foreman. *
8 David McNair Foreman. Sarah Sweetwater, Agnes Foreman Sweetwater and Mary Foreman nee Sweetwater.
9 George Foreman. Elizabeth Fields and Elizabeth Fields.
10 Thomas Foreman. Elizabeth Chicken.
11 Susan Foreman. Samuel Jones and Walter Stopp.
12 James Foreman. *
13 Edward Foreman. Mary Proctor, Sarah Proctor and Jennie Spaniard nee Terrapin.
14 Elizabeth Foreman. Johnson Proctor and Redbird Sixkiller.

Source: Starr, Emmett. “History of the Cherokee Indians and Their Legends and Folklore.” Warden Company, 1922.
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