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Connecting to the Big Tree

Last updated 16 Jan 2019

The goal of Geni is to create a single, accurate family tree that connects all members, with no duplicates.

However, there are Geni users who are not aware that they are part of the Big tree - or not part of the Big Tree. Nor do they know "how to" connect to the "Big Tree". Geni.com calls it the World Family Tree; see this page for World Family Tree Facts on Geni.

This project was set up to help do so. Feel free to start a discussion if this page doesn't answer your questions.

How to know if you are in the Big Tree

Log in at geni.com and click the link near the top-left, called Home. This will take you to geni.com/home. Scroll down to the Statistics box on the right, with the number of relatives you have.

The top line there reads:

"You are connected to XXX people on Geni"

If this number is in the tens of millions, then you are connected. The connection is not necessarily through your direct ancestors, but can be through various in-laws ... being connected through marriages to other trees that connect to ... - etc.

The number of connected profiles changes constantly. On 16 Jan 2019 this number was

  • Statistics
  • You are connected to 128,606,573 people on Geni. About privacy.

To see the current number of people in the Whole World tree at geni.com, go to geni.com/worldfamilytree

How to know if another person is connected

If you are already in the Big Tree, you can visit any person's profile, and check the line at the top of their profile. If it says "You are connected to XXX" (with the option of finding out the actual connection through the function button, "how are you related?"), then you are both in the same tree; that is, the big tree.


Example:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/photos.geni.com/p13/9d/55/da/86/5344483fd3d5819f/connected_tree_example_large.jpg


If instead this field says "This is the Public profile for XXX" with no mention of connections, the profile and his/her tree is not part of the Big Tree.


Example:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/photos.geni.com/p13/39/be/96/30/5344483fd3d59f51/isolated_tree_example_large.jpg


Geni Help: How To: See if You are a Member of the World Family Tree

Build your tree from yourself

  • By default, unless invited to join an existing tree already connected to the Big Tree, your tree is not connected. It is standalone or isolated.
  • Add your mother and your father. Enter data fields as completely as possible: names, dates, locations.
  • Add their parents, again completing all the fields.
  • By the fourth generation from yourself, there is a chance a Geni member has already entered nodes (profiles) reflecting the same person.
  • How will you know this? One way is the blue tree match.

Match to your tree

There are three types of Matches on Geni. Blue tree matches are profiles that appear in other Geni trees, both standalone trees and the single Big Tree.

Geni Help: What are the three types of Matches?

The blue match does not detect whether the tree is connected or not. Members need to determine that by inspecting in "profile view" as shown above.

Geni members are notified when Geni detects a match, and also when a merge is requested.

Collaborate

Geni was designed to help users work with each other on building a shared family tree (the Big Tree). They created this feature to enable all Geni users the opportunity to work with others who are not in their Family Group.

So to connect a standalone tree to the World Tree, members must either have collaboration permissions, or family group permissions if the profiles fall in the privacy zone.

Use “Request to Collaborate” under the 'Actions' button at the top of the profile page to send a request to the profile manager.

Merge

Members connect to the Big Tree when a profile in their standalone tree is merged with a profile in the Big Tree. 

  • If a merge involves a profile in a standalone tree, the merge will be pending until it is approved by a manager or collaborator in the other tree.
  • Both collaborators and Family Group members can approve a merge for a standalone tree.
  • One way to identify standalone trees is that when you try to merge two profiles, you get a message:

These profiles are in different trees. Caution: Merging these profiles will merge their trees and could require merging other duplicate profiles.

Connect

In other words, there are two steps to connecting a standalone tree to the Big Tree:

  1. Send / accept a collaboration request
  2. Send / accept a merge request

Once accepted, a message appears on your Geni home page:

"Congratulations! You are now connected to (xxx million) others on Geni!"

And you hear a little cheer.

Summary

  1. build
  2. match
  3. collaborate
  4. merge

"Collaboration" is needed only once to join the standalone tree to the Big Tree.

Matching and merging can be an ongoing activity, as we all work to fill in the gaps of the World Family Tree, and represent everyone.

Why can't I just upload my GEDCOM file?

People often ask this question. Years ago, Geni used to provide a way for us to upload GEDCOM files of our ancestors, as we can do at "independent tree" sites, such as Ancestry and MyHeritage. But the tree at Geni is very different from the trees at those sites. At those sites, you build "your tree" and I build "my tree", and there is no easy way I could merge my tree with your tree. In those situations a GEDCOM import works well. But at Geni, we are cooperating to build a single tree for all the people in the world -- the "Big Tree", or the "Whole World Tree". So I can talk about "my branch" of the tree at Geni, but not "my tree". At Geni, we talk about "our tree", and we don't want to mess up other people's branches by adding a lot of duplicates, as used to happen when GEDCOM imports were possible.

The GEDCOM import option has not been re-enabled, but a much better option is now available, called SmartCopy, which lets us copy a tree from another site, a family at a time, and then look for people who are already in the tree at Geni.

So the trick is to get a free account at MyHeritage and upload your GEDCOM file there, and then use SmartCopy to copy the people a family at a time -- parents, siblings, spouses and children -- and then you view the tree in geni, looking for people who are already there. Whenever you see a blue indicator, that means you may be able to merge that person with someone who is already in the Big Tree at geni.com. After that, you don't need to copy the rest of the ancestral line -- just add people who are missing, and add pictures and documentation.

Here's the plan in detail:

  1. start a branch at geni.com, with yourself and perhaps your parents in it
  2. watch the video about SmartCopy at https://www.geni.com/projects/SmartCopy/18783
  3. click on the installation link for your browser and add the extension. This will allow you to copy just one person. To copy a whole family, you need to ask permission to use SmartCopy for that, so
  4. go to https://www.geni.com/discussions/147619 and at the top-right, click on the largest page number, just before NEXT, scroll down to the bottom and in the box below "Your reply to "Request use of SmartCopy here!:" type in a request to use SmartCopy. In a day or so you should receive an internal geni message giving you approval.
  5. Get a free account at MyHeritage where GEDCOM import is allowed,
  6. import your GEDCOM there,
  7. In geni.com, go to the profile of one of your parents,
  8. double-click the person's number in the "address bar" to select it
  9. hold down the "Ctrl" key (or "Command" on a Mac) and type "C" to copy the number into the clipboard
  10. In another browser window, go to the same person in the tree that came from your GEDCOM upload, and use SmartCopy to copy the rest of the family to geni.com, using the procedure in the video that you watched at point 2 above.
  11. After each use of SmartCopy, check the tree at geni.com, looking for duplicate people and merge candidates.

Resources

Соединение с "Большим Древом"

Последнее обновление 28 декабря 2016

Целью проекта GENi является создание единого, без повторяющихся элементов, семейного дерева, в которое будут включены все его участники.

Однако, существуют пользователи которые не осведомлены о том, что они являются или не являются частью "Большого Древом". Однако они не знают "КАК" присоединиться к "Большому Древу". Geni.com называет это Мировым Семейным Древом; для этого зайдите на страницу "Мировое Семейное Древо.

Этот проект предназначен того чтобы помочь это сделать. Вы свободно можете начать обсуждение если эта страница не ответила на Ваши вопросы.

Как узнать о том, что Вы подключены к "Большому Дереву"

Проверьте Вашу "Главную страницу" и в окне "Статистика" находящейся справа Вы увидите количество связанных с вами профилей.

Верхняя строка выглядит как:

"Вы связаны с XXXХХХ профилями в Geni."

Если количество связанных профилей более десяти миллионов, то Вы уже присоединены. Для присоединения не требуется наличия прямых кровных предков присутствующих в "Большом Древе", присоединение может происходить на основании "родства по закону - свойства", например брака, усыновления и т.п.

The number of connected profiles changes constantly. This number is as 20 Feb 2015.

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  • Statistics
  • You are connected to 88,001,700 people on Geni. About privacy.

Как узнать, что другой человек подключился

Если Вы уже в "Большом Древе", то Вы можете посетить любой профиль человека и проверить связь в верхней части этого профиля. If it says "You are connected to XXX" (with the option of finding out the actual connection through the function button, "how are you related?"), then you are both in the same tree; that is, the big tree.


Пример:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/photos.geni.com/p13/9d/55/da/86/5344483fd3d5819f/connected_tree_example_large.jpg


If instead this field says "This is the Public profile for XXX" with no mention of connections, the profile and his/her tree is not part of the Big Tree.


Пример:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/photos.geni.com/p13/39/be/96/30/5344483fd3d59f51/isolated_tree_example_large.jpg


Geni Help: How To: See if You are a Member of the World Family Tree

Построй свое дерево сам

  • By default, unless invited to join an existing tree already connected to the Big Tree, your tree is not connected. It is standalone or isolated.
  • Add your mother and your father. Enter data fields as completely as possible: names, dates, locations.
  • Add their parents, again completing all the fields.
  • By the fourth generation from yourself, there is a chance a Geni member has already entered nodes (profiles) reflecting the same person.
  • How will you know this? One way is the blue tree match.

Совпадения в Вашем дереве

There are three types of Matches on Geni. Blue tree matches are profiles that appear in other Geni trees, both standalone trees and the single Big Tree.

Geni Help: What are the three types of Matches?

The blue match does not detect whether the tree is connected or not. Members need to determine that by inspecting in "profile view" as shown above.

Geni members are notified when Geni detects a match, and also when a merge is requested.

Сотрудничество

Geni was designed to help users work with each other on building a shared family tree (the Big Tree). They created this feature to enable all Geni users the opportunity to work with others who are not in their Family Group.

So to connect a standalone tree to the World Tree, members must either have collaboration permissions, or family group permissions if the profiles fall in the privacy zone.

Use “Request to Collaborate” under the 'Actions' button at the top of the profile page to send a request to the profile manager.

Соединение

Members connect to the Big Tree when a profile in their standalone tree is merged with a profile in the Big Tree. 

  • If a merge involves a profile in a standalone tree, the merge will be pending until it is approved by a manager or collaborator in the other tree.
  • Both collaborators and Family Group members can approve a merge for a standalone tree.
  • One way to identify standalone trees is that when you try to merge two profiles, you get a message:

These profiles are in different trees. Caution: Merging these profiles will merge their trees and could require merging other duplicate profiles.

Подключение

In other words, there are two steps to connecting a standalone tree to the Big Tree:

  1. Send / accept a collaboration request
  2. Send / accept a merge request

Once accepted, a message appears on your Geni home page:

"Congratulations! You are now connected to (xxx million) others on Geni!"

And you hear a little cheer.

Резюме

  1. build
  2. match
  3. collaborate
  4. merge

"Collaboration" is needed only once to join the standalone tree to the Big Tree.

Matching and merging can be an ongoing activity, as we all work to fill in the gaps of the World Family Tree, and represent everyone.

Источники

З'єднання з "Великим Древом"

Останнє оновлення 28 грудня 2016

Метою проекта GENi є створення единого, позбавлени дублюючих елементів, сімейного дерева, в якє будуть включені всі члени спільноти.

Однак істуюсь користувачі які не обізнані в тому, що вони є або не є частиною "Великого Древом". Хоча вони не знаюсь "ЯК" приєднатися до "Великого Древа". Geni.com називає його Всесвітнім Сімейним Древом; для йього зайдіть на сторінку "Всесвітнє Сімейне Древо".

Nor do they know "how to" connect to the "Big Tree". Geni.com calls it the World Family Tree; see this page for World Family Tree Facts on Geni.

This project was set up to help do so. Feel free to start a discussion if this page doesn't answer your questions.

Як дізнатися, що Ви підключені до "Великого Дерева"

Check your own Home page and the Statistics box you see on the right hand side with the numbers of relatives you have.

The top line there reads:

"Ви пов'язані з XXXХХХ особами через Geni."

Якщо кількість зв'язаних осіб більша за десять мільйонів, то Ви вже приєдналися. Для приєднання потрибно мати або беспоспоредньо Вашого предка, якій присутній в "Великому Древі", або мають бути "Законні зв'язки", наприклад брак, будь-якої особи Вашого древа і особи вже приєднаної нього,

The number of connected profiles changes constantly. This number is as 20 Feb 2015.

view charts

  • Statistics
  • You are connected to 88,001,700 people on Geni. About privacy.

Як дізнатися, що інша людана підключилась

If you are already in the Big Tree, you can visit any person's profile, and check the line at the top of their profile. If it says "You are connected to XXX" (with the option of finding out the actual connection through the function button, "how are you related?"), then you are both in the same tree; that is, the big tree.


Например:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/photos.geni.com/p13/9d/55/da/86/5344483fd3d5819f/connected_tree_example_large.jpg


If instead this field says "This is the Public profile for XXX" with no mention of connections, the profile and his/her tree is not part of the Big Tree.


Например:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/photos.geni.com/p13/39/be/96/30/5344483fd3d59f51/isolated_tree_example_large.jpg


Geni Help: How To: See if You are a Member of the World Family Tree

Збудуй своє дерево самостійно

  • By default, unless invited to join an existing tree already connected to the Big Tree, your tree is not connected. It is standalone or isolated.
  • Add your mother and your father. Enter data fields as completely as possible: names, dates, locations.
  • Add their parents, again completing all the fields.
  • By the fourth generation from yourself, there is a chance a Geni member has already entered nodes (profiles) reflecting the same person.
  • How will you know this? One way is the blue tree match.

Збіги у Вашому дереві

There are three types of Matches on Geni. Blue tree matches are profiles that appear in other Geni trees, both standalone trees and the single Big Tree.

Geni Help: What are the three types of Matches?

The blue match does not detect whether the tree is connected or not. Members need to determine that by inspecting in "profile view" as shown above.

Geni members are notified when Geni detects a match, and also when a merge is requested.

Сотрудничество

Geni was designed to help users work with each other on building a shared family tree (the Big Tree). They created this feature to enable all Geni users the opportunity to work with others who are not in their Family Group.

So to connect a standalone tree to the World Tree, members must either have collaboration permissions, or family group permissions if the profiles fall in the privacy zone.

Use “Request to Collaborate” under the 'Actions' button at the top of the profile page to send a request to the profile manager.

Соединение

Members connect to the Big Tree when a profile in their standalone tree is merged with a profile in the Big Tree. 

  • If a merge involves a profile in a standalone tree, the merge will be pending until it is approved by a manager or collaborator in the other tree.
  • Both collaborators and Family Group members can approve a merge for a standalone tree.
  • One way to identify standalone trees is that when you try to merge two profiles, you get a message:

These profiles are in different trees. Caution: Merging these profiles will merge their trees and could require merging other duplicate profiles.

Подключение

In other words, there are two steps to connecting a standalone tree to the Big Tree:

  1. Send / accept a collaboration request
  2. Send / accept a merge request

Once accepted, a message appears on your Geni home page:

"Congratulations! You are now connected to (xxx million) others on Geni!"

And you hear a little cheer.

Резюмє

  1. build
  2. match
  3. collaborate
  4. merge

"Collaboration" is needed only once to join the standalone tree to the Big Tree.

Matching and merging can be an ongoing activity, as we all work to fill in the gaps of the World Family Tree, and represent everyone.

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