Ragnhildr Hákonardóttir - born when?

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Private User
Today at 9:42 AM

she has to be born earlier than 1060 to fit with birth dates for her children?

Private User
Today at 10:46 AM

That's why we have estimations, do not take years that far back literally, meaning exactly.

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Today at 10:58 AM

Just looked at her, Aslak Erlingson den unge på Sola was wrongly connected to her, and disconnected 2 jan 2016 by
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Wrongly merged again 26 jan 2021 as Ragnhilds husband. Private User might have done it, or someone else, that does not show up in the list have done a merge between two woman with similar names.

Today at 11:11 AM
Today at 11:12 AM

Removed Birth: circa 1060- Death: circa 1105 (36-54) pending the provision of sources

Today at 11:16 AM

The only birthdate of a child I can find is Cawley's guesttimate of Hakon, according to this:

HAKON Paulsson (before [1070]-Orkney [1126]). Orkneyinga Saga names “Hakon” as son of “Earl Paul Thorfinnson” and his wife[915]. It is extremely unlikely that Hakon was born before [1070], given the estimated birth date of his granddaughter Margaret (see below). Snorre names "Hakon, a son of Earl Paul" when recording that "a year or two after King Magnus's fall…[he] came from Orkney" and was given the earldom of Orkney by Kings Eystein, Sigurd and Olav, before sailing back to Orkney[916]. Orkneyinga Saga records that Hakon left Orkney for Norway where he visited “King Olaf the Peaceful…towards the end of Olaf’s reign” (King Olaf’s death is dated to 1093) before sailing east to Sweden and “King Ingi Steinkelsson”[917]. He was appointed Joint Lieutenant for Sigurd Magnusson King of Orkney and the Isles, when the latter returned to Norway in 1103 on his accession as king. He was installed in [Spring 1105] as Jarl of Orkney by King Sigurd. He ruled as Joint Jarl from Spring 1108, when his cousin Magnus Erlendsson was installed as Jarl of ½ Orkney.http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#PaulIdied1098B

Today at 11:19 AM

This moves the mother's possible dates to 'estimated between 1022 and 1060'

Thanks for spotting Adam.

Private User
Today at 2:51 PM

Unfortunately, Ragnhilds father Håkon Ivarsson jarl did married his wife Ragnhild Magnusdotter during Harald Hardrulers time as a king, when he single ruled Norway from 1047–25 september to 1066, anyway, any child of him with his wife ought to have been born after earliest 1048-06, but Geni make the estimation now for Ragnhildr to between 1022 och 1060,
it should be according to fact, born after 1048, or before ca.1060, that could be manually set.

It looks quite odd just now with a daughter that is estimated to be older than both her parents, but what do I know?

Yes, one user complained earlier about a similar profile and situation and accused the managers for being dumb, tried to explain that no one had set any dates, and that it was done automatically by the geni software, to no succes.

There was no point at all removing the previous estimation, contrarary it helps us easier to detect faulty mergings, or parents and children misplaced in time.

Ragnhildr Hákonardótt, born after 1048 and before ca.1060

Private User
Today at 3:06 PM

after 1048 is good

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