Ragnvald IV Gudrödsson, King of Mann and the Isles

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Ragnvald Gudrödsson

Also Known As: "Rheinallt / Ragnald III Gudrødsson", "Reginald III", "Rheinallt"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Isle of Mann
Death: February 14, 1229
Tynwald Hill, St. John's, Isle of Mann (Killed in battle)
Immediate Family:

Son of Gudrod the Black, King of Man & the North Isles and N.N., Unknown Wife or Mistress of Gudrod the Black
Husband of Sister of Lavon
Father of N.N. ferch Ragnvald; NN; Gofraid Donn Rögnvaldsson, king of the Isles and NN
Brother of Affrica Guðrøðardóttir and Ivar Guðrøðarson
Half brother of Olaf II "the Black", King of Isle of Man

Occupation: Konge på Isle of Man, England 1187-1226, Konge oav Isle of Main, Konge av Man, King, Isle of Man, Kung Isle of Man 1187-1226
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About Ragnvald IV Gudrödsson, King of Mann and the Isles

RAGNALD (-killed in battle Tynwald 1228, bur St Mary of Furness). The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum names “Reginaldum, Olavum et Yvarum” as the three sons of King Godred, adding that their father had nominated his legitimate son Olav as his successor, but that the Manxmen chose Ragnald as king because he was older[1302]. The birth date of his daughter, wife of the Welsh princes, indicates that Ragnald must have been much older than his legitimate half-brother. King of Man. The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that Olav recovered Man from his half-brother in 1226[1303]. "Ragdnaldus…rex Insularum" donated "totam medietatem terre…Ormeshan…apud portum de Corna et aciam terram Asmundertoftes" to St Bees by undated charter, witnessed by "…Gospatricio filio Henrici…"[1304]. The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that Olav was murdered in 1228 and buried at St Mary of Furness[1305]. m ---, daughter of --. Her parentage is confirmed by the Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum which records that King Ragnald arranged the marriage of his half-brother Olav to “filiam cujusdam nobilis de Kentyre germanam uxoris suæ, nomine Jauon”[1306]. ["the daughter of a nobleman of Kentyre a sister of his wife, namely Jauon". Sharon Doubell July 2021] Ragnald [& his wife] had four children:

i) daughter ([1182/83]-after 17 Feb 1205). Her parentage, betrothals and two marriages are confirmed by the following documents. Pope Innocent III, by letter dated 24 Nov 1199, requested an enquiry after “R. princeps Norwaliæ” requested permission to marry “filiam...prinicipis Insularum” notwithstanding that “patruo eius eadem infra nubiles annos exstitit desponsata”, in particular investigating whether she was still under 7 years old [youngest canonical age for marriage at the time] when “a nepote, vel patruo desponsata”[1307]. Pope Innocent III, by letter dated 19 Apr 1203, reported the enquiry after “N. princeps Norwalliæ” requested permission to marry “filiam...principis Insularum”, referring to his previous letter, confirming that “L. principe Norwalliæ” had been betrothed to “puella, completis octo annis”, that she was later betrothed to “patruo...suo”, that the enquiry found against the marriage but allowed it to stand to bring peace to the dispute[1308]. Pope Innocent III issued a third letter dated 17 Feb 1205, after further facts emerged, annulling the marriage and recording that “ejusdem L. patruus ipsam” was betrothed to the girl when in her ninth year, married her in her tenth, and cohabited with her, including “in Manniam rediens” before returning “in Walliam” by himself leaving his wife behind, for 2 years, 2 months and 15 days since their marriage[1309]. Her marriage date suggests that she was much older than her sister who married Thomas of Galloway. Maybe they were born from different marriages. Remfry notes that Dwnn’s Visitation incorrectly names “Rhunallt, the daughter of the king of Man” as wife of Gruffydd ap Llywelyn (see the document WALES) and suggests that this may represent confusion with the first/second wife of Llywelyn[1310]. m firstly ([1191/92]%29 RHODRI ap Owain Lord of Anglesey, son of OWAIN King of Gwynedd & his second wife Christina of Deheubarth (-[1194/95]). m secondly (Betrothed [1190]?, betrothal terminated [1191/92]), [1195/96], separated [annulled] [1203/05]) as his [first/second] wife, LLYWELYN ap Iorwerth Fawr ("the Great") Prince of North Wales, son of IORWERTH "Drwyndwyn/flat nose" Prince of Gwynedd & his wife Marared of Powys ([1173]-11 Apr 1240, bur Aberconway). [PLEASE SEE DISCUSSION OF ADDITIONAL SOURCES HERE: https://www.geni.com/discussions/233917?msg=1485837 - SHARON D JULY 2021]
ii) daughter (after [1182/83]-after [1194/95]). Her existence is confirmed by the letter of Pope Innocent III dated 17 Feb 1205 (see above) which records that, after the death of Rhodri, “predictus L.” asked “a rege Manniæ juniorem filiam in conjugem”, which was refused as Llywelyn had already been betrothed to the older daughter[1311].
iii) GODRED (-killed Lewes after 1230). The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum names Godred as son of King Ragnald when it records that his mother sent him to kill his uncle Olav, but that he was surprised by Olav’s followers, blinded and emasculated, dated to 1223[1312]. The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that King Olav agreed to divide his territories in 1230 with Godred, who ruled in the Isles but was killed in Lewes[1313]. m ---. The name of Godred’s wife is not known. Godred & his wife had one child:

(a) HARALD (-1252 or after). The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that “Haraldus filius Godredi Don” usurped the kingdom in 1249 after the death of King Ragnald, but that Magnus returned in 1252 and was installed as king[1314]. King of Man.

iv) daughter . The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that King Ragnvald married his daughter to Alan of Galloway’s son[1315]. Her marriage date suggests that she was much younger than her sister who married the Welsh princes. Maybe they were born from different marriages. m (1226[1316]%29 THOMAS of Galloway, illegitimate son of ALAN Lord of Galloway & his mistress ---.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#OlavMandied...

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Under år 1187, den 10 november, Godred, kung av öarna, dog på ön St Patrick, i Man. I början av nästa sommar hans kropp flyttades till ön heter Lona. Han lämnade tre söner, Reginald, Olave, och Ivan. Reginald, då en fullvuxen ung man, var frånvarande i öarna. Olave, men ändå en mycket ung pojke, bosatt i Man. (Chronicle of Man och Sudreys)

Godred under sitt liv hade utsett Olave att lyckas med riket, för arv tillhörde honom rätt, eftersom han var född i lagligt äktenskap, och hade bjudit alla människor of Man att utse Olave kung efter sin egen död, och bevara okränkbara sin trohetsed. Hur någonsin, efter döden av Godred skickade invånarna på Isle of sina budbärare till öarna för Reginald, och gjorde honom kung, vara för att han var en man av energi och mognare ålder. Ty de fruktade svagheten i Olave, för han bara var en pojke tio år gammal, och de ansåg att en person, som på grund av sitt anbud ålder, visste inte hur man direkt själv, skulle ha varit helt oförmögen att regera sina undersåtar. Detta var anledningen till att folk Man utsåg Reginald kung. (Chronicle of Man och Sudreys)

En kamp ägde rum mellan Reginald Godredson och Olof Godredson II. Reginald äldre, men förklarats olagliga. Olaf, yngre, hävdar legitim arvsrätt. (Frances Coakley)

Under år 1205, John de Courcy, återvinner sin styrka, samlas en stor styrka, och följdes av Reginald, King of the Isles, med nästan hundra fartyg, att Ulster. Att sätta i porten kallas Strangford, som de belägrade, men slarvigt, till fortet Rath. Walter gör Lacy kom på dem med en stor armé, och helt dirigeras dem, aiid efter denna tid John Courcy göra återhämtade sig aldrig hans pos sessioner. (Chronicle of Man och Sudreys)

Reginald gav sin bror Olave en viss ö som heter Lewis, som sägs vara mer omfattande än de andra öarna, men glest befolkat, eftersom det är bergig och stenig, och nästan helt otjänligt för odling. Invånarna lever främst av jakt och fiske. Olave intog ön och bosatte sig där, att leva, hur allt, mycket sparsamt. Konstaterade att ön inte kunde försörja sig själv och hans anhängare, gick han uppriktigt till sin bror Reginald, som då var bosatt i Isles, och talade till honom på följande sätt: Du vet, min bror och kung, att Konungariket öarna var gruva genom arvsrätt, men som Herrens valde dig för sin guvernör, inte agg jag inte det du, inte heller är jag missnöjd eftersom du har höjts till den högsta värdighet kung. Jag därför nu ber att ni kommer att tilldela mig hand någonstans i Isles tillräckligt för min egen anständigt underhåll och mina anhängare, för ön Lewis som du gav mig är inte lika med mitt stöd. När Reginald hade hört detta, lovade han att ta råd i ämnet, och returnera ett svar till framställningen nästa dag. När nästa dag hade grytt, och Olave hade koniska av kallelse, att tala med kungen, beordrade Reginald honom att tas i beslag, bunden och transporteras i kedjor till William, kung av Skottland, att hållas fången av den suveräna. Denna order utfördes, och Olave förblev fånge med kungen av Skottland nästan sju år. I sjunde året dog William, kung av Skottland, och efterträddes av sin son Alexander. Före sin död gav dock William anvisningar för befrielsen av alla som var instängd i hans fängelser. Olave sedan, har hans kedjor bort och återställs till frihet, gick till och en till sin bror Reginald, och kort därefter anges med en betydande närvaro av män av rang för helgedomen av St James. Återvänder från pilgrimsfärd, besökte han åter sin bror Reginald, av vem han togs emot på ett vänligt sätt. På den tiden Reginald orsakat hans bror Olave att gifta Lanon "dotter till en man av rang of Kintyre, syster till sin egen hustru, och gav honom den ovan nämnda ön Lewis, om Olave, ta avsked av sin bror, gick med hans hustru, mitt bodde där. (Chronicle of Man och Sudreys)

En kort tid 1225 efter detta fick Reginald från folket of Man 100 merks under förevändning att gå till domstol av Herren kung av England, men han gick till domstol för Alan, Lord of Galloway. Samtidigt gav han sin dotter till hustru åt son Alan. När invånarna på Isle of hört talas om detta blev de mycket upprörda, och för att sända Olave utsåg honom till konung. (Chronicle of Man och Sudreys)

I 1228 Alan of Galloway invaderade Isle of Man och kämpade ett hav-krig mot Norge för att stödja Reginald, prins of Man, som var engagerade i en kamp mellan broderfolk med sin bror Olav för innehav av ön. Alan dog 1234 och är begravd på Dundrennan Abbey i Galloway. (Wikipedia, den fria encyklopedin)

En dotter utan namn blev Gift med Thomas AV Galloway. (Chronicle of Man och Sudreys, doc 55) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In the year 1187, on the 10th of November, Godred, King of the Isles, died in the Island of St. Patrick, in Man. In the beginning of the following summer his body was removed to the Island called lona. He left three sons, Reginald, Olave, and Ivan. Reginald, then a full grown young man, was absent in the Isles. Olave, yet a very young boy, resided in Man. (Chronicle of Man and the Sudreys)

Godred during his life had appointed Olave to succeed to the kingdom, for the inheritance belonged to him by right, because he was born of lawful wedlock; and had commanded all the people of Man to appoint Olave king after his own death, and preserve inviolate their oath of allegiance. How ever, after the death of Godred, the Manxmen sent their messengers to the Isles for Reginald, and made him king, be cause he was a man of energy and of riper age. For they dreaded the weakness of Olave, for he was but a boy ten years old, and they considered that a person, who on account of his tender age, knew not how to direct himself, would be wholly incapable of governing his subjects. This was the reason why the people of Man appointed Reginald king. (Chronicle of Man and the Sudreys)

A struggle took place between Reginald Godredson and Olaf Godredson II. Reginald elder, but declared illegitimate. Olaf, younger, claiming legitimate succession. (Frances Coakley)

In the year 1205, John de Courcy, recovering his strength, collected a large force, and was accompanied by Reginald, King of the Isles, with nearly one hundred ships, to Ulster. Putting into the port called Strangford, they laid siege, but carelessly, to the fort of Rath. Walter do Lacy came upon them with a large army, and totally routed them; aiid after that time John do Courcy never recovered his pos sessions. (Chronicle of Man and the Sudreys)

Reginald gave his brother Olave a certain island called Lewis, which is said to be more extensive than the other islands, but thinly peopled, because it is mountainous and rocky, and almost totally unfit for cultivation. The inhabitants live mostly by hunting and fishing. Olave took possession of this island and dwelt there; living, how ever, very scantily. Finding that the island could not support himself and his followers, he went frankly to his brother Reginald, who was then residing in the Isles, and spoke to him as follows: You know, my brother and king, that the kingdom of the Isles was mine by hereditary right, but as the Lord chose you for its governor, I do not grudge it you, nor am I discontented because you have been raised to the supreme dignity of king. I now therefore beg that you will allot me hand somewhere in the Isles sufficient for my own decent maintenance and that of my followers, for the island of Lewis which you gave me is unequal to my support. When Reginald had heard this, he promised to take advice on the subject, and return an answer to the petition next day. When next day had dawned, and Olave had conic by summons, to speak with the king, Reginald ordered him to be seized, bound, and carried in chains to William, King of Scotland, to be kept prisoner by that Sovereign. This order was executed, and Olave remained prisoner with the King of Scotland nearly seven years. In the seventh year, William, king of Scotland, died, and was succeeded by his son Alexander. Before his death, however, William gave directions for the liberation of all who were confined in his prisons. Olave then, having his chains removed, and being restored to liberty, went to Man to his brother Reginald, and shortly afterwards set out with a considerable attendance of men of rank for the shrine of St. James. Returning from the pilgrimage, he again visited his brother Reginald, by whom he was received in a friendly manner. At that time Reginald caused his brother Olave to marry Lanon' the daughter of a certain man of rank of Kintyre, sister to his own wife, and gave him the afore said island of Lewis, whether Olave, taking leave of his brother, went with his wife, amid dwelt there. (Chronicle of Man and the Sudreys)

A short time 1225 after this, Reginald received from the people of Man 100 merks under the pretence of going to the court of the Lord King of England, but he went to the court of Alan, Lord of Galloway. At the same time he gave his daughter in marriage to the son of Alan. When the Manxmen heard of this they were greatly incensed, and sending for Olave appointed him king. (Chronicle of Man and the Sudreys)

In 1228 Alan of Galloway invaded the Isle of Man and fought a sea-war against Norway in support of Reginald, Prince of Man, who was engaged in a fratricidal struggle with his brother Olaf for possession of the island. Alan died in 1234 and is buried at Dundrennan Abbey in Galloway. (Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

En dotter utan namn blev gift med Thomas av Galloway. (Chronicle of Man and the Sudreys, doc 55)

http://www.espell.se/saga/p0894539b.html

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Occupation Konge på Isle of Man, England 1187-1226 Alias/AKA Reginald III



Ragnald was the oldest but illegitimate son of Godred II. He seized the throne when his father died from his half brother, legitimate heir Olaf II who was only 10 yrs old. He is portrayed as a "Hollywood Viking" by my reference - at one point spending 3 years on board his ship "sea-roving and piracy" which he preferred to administering his territory. He spent most of his reign annoying people and playing one King off against another. In 1226, brother Olaf II finally succeeded in forcing him to share his holdings - ending in their confrontation and his death in 1230 at Tynwald Hill in Man. (source- "the mighty book of British Kings and Queens" by Mike Ashley - page 427-429)

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Född omkring 1165 Isle of Man, England Död på Isle of Man Biskop och kung på Isle of Man.

Ragnald (Reginald) av Man, kung av Man 1187-1226/29

  • † 1229-02-14 Tynwald Hill avsattes 1226, sökte återta Man 1228 o 1229, besegrades o dödades av brodern Olaf vid Tynwald Hill erkändes såsom usurpator ej av norska hovet, blev vassal till England o påvestolen 1219 Barn: Godred "Donn" av Man, samregent/lydkung till Olaf Svarte, tabell 4
  • † 1231 Lodhus erhöll Lodhus o dödades av folket där i en revolt

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Var en stor sjöfarande kung. Det sades att han inte sov under tak en enda natt på tre år. Hans bror Olaf gav honom bekymmer. Brodern var gift med dottern till Earl Ross of Skottland.

INGIBJÖRG . Orkneyinga Saga names “Harald…Smooth-Tongue and two daughters…Ingibjorg…Margaret” as the children of Earl Hakon and his mistress Helga, adding that Ingibjörg married “Olaf Tit-Bit King of the Hebrides”[947].
m [as his second wife], OLAV Bitling King of Sodor and Man 1097-1098 and 1103-1153, son of ---.
Olav & his wife had one child: (Cawley's Medlands)

i) GODROD. His parentage is deduced from the Orkneyinga Saga which records that the mother of “Rognvald Godrodarson, King of the Hebrides” was “Ingibjorg, Earl Hakon Paulsson´s daughter”[948].
m ---. The name of Godrod´s wife is not known.
Godrod & his wife had one child: (Cawley's Medlands)

(a) RAGNVALD Godradarson . King of Man and the Isles. Orkneyinga Saga records that the mother of “Rognvald Godrodarson, King of the Hebrides” was “Ingibjorg, Earl Hakon Paulsson´s daughter”[949]. William "the Lion" King of Scotland sold Caithness to him after the battle of Wick in 1198. He lost Caithness to Harald [II] Maddadsson Jarl of Orkney in 1200. (Cawley's Medlands)



Crovan dynastin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crovan_dynasty) omfattar ättlingar till
Gudröd I Corvan Haraldsson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godred_Crovan)
Kung på Isle of Man och Hebriderna 1079-1095
Gudröd Corvan grundade kungadynastin på Söderöarna (Isle of Man och Hebriderna).



Kung på Isle of Man, England 1187-1226.




Kung på Isle of Man, England 1187-1226.



Konge af the Sudreys.

Hustru: Ukendt

Børn: 1 Godred Don, d. 1230 ca

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