Baron Thomas de Musgrave, Jr., 1st Lord Musgrave

• ACCORDING TO OTHER REFERENCE THIS THOMAS AND HIS LISTED FATHER ARE THE SAME PERSON HAVING MARRIED MARGARET DE ROOS & MARY VAUX & ISABEL DE BERKELEY
• Sir Thomas Musgrave1
• M, #34741, d. 1384
• Father Sir Thomas de Musgrave, Sheriff of Westmoreland & York b. b 1307, d. c 1385
• Mother Isabel de Berkeley d. 25 Jul 1362
• Sir Thomas Musgrave was born at of Yorkshire, England. He married Margaret de Roos, daughter of Sir William de Roos, 2nd Lord Roos, Sheriff of Yorkshire, Constable of Wark Castle and Margery de Badlesmere. Sir Thomas Musgrave died in 1384.
• Family Margaret de Roos d. c 26 Jul 1341
• Child
  • Sir Thomas Musgrave, Sheriff of Cumberland+ d. 1409
• Citations
• [S10754] Unknown author, The Ancestry of Paul Collinson & Beryl Mary and their Descendants, Section II, p. 9.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1157.htm#... ______________________
• Sir Thomas de Musgrave, Sheriff of Westmoreland & York1,2,3,4
• M, #34743, b. before 1307, d. circa 1385
• Father Thomas de Musgrave4 d. 1310
• Mother Sarah de Harcla4 b. c 1280, d. a 1327
• Sir Thomas de Musgrave, Sheriff of Westmoreland & York Governor of Berwick; Governor of the Castle of York. He was born before 1307 at of Musgrave, Westmorland, England; Of age before 1328.4 He married Isabel de Berkeley, daughter of Sir Maurice de Berkeley, 2nd Lord Berkeley, Seneschal of Aquitaine, Warden of Gloucester and Eve la Zouche, circa 9 June 1345.5,2,3,4 Sir Thomas de Musgrave, Sheriff of Westmoreland & York died circa 1385.4
• Family Isabel de Berkeley d. 25 Jul 1362
• Child
  • Sir Thomas Musgrave+ d. 1384
• Citations
• [S10754] Unknown author, The Ancestry of Paul Collinson & Beryl Mary and their Descendants, Section II, p. 9.
• [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 176.
• [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 332.
• [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 243.
• [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 214.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1157.htm#... ___________________
• Thomas de Musgrave, 1st Lord Musgrave1
• M, #130449, b. before 1310, d. circa 1385
• Last Edited=20 Mar 2015
• Thomas de Musgrave, 1st Lord Musgrave was born before 1310.2 He was the son of Thomas de Musgrave and Sarah de Harcla.3 He married, firstly, Margaret de Ros, daughter of William de Ros.4 He married, secondly, Isabel de Berkeley, daughter of Maurice de Berkeley, 2nd Lord Berkeley and Eva la Zouche, before 9 June 1345.1,5 He died circa 1385.3
• He held the office of Deputy Sheriff of Westmorland in 1339.3 He held the office of Member of Parliament (M.P.) for Westmorland between 1340 and 1344.3 He held the office of a Keeper of the Western March of Scotland in March 1345/46.3 He fought in the Battle of Neville's Cross in October 1346.3 He was created 1st Lord Musgrave [England by writ] on 25 November 1350, although none of his successors were called to Parliament by that title or by writ of summons at all.3 He held the office of Governor of Berwick in 1377.3
• Child of Thomas de Musgrave, 1st Lord Musgrave
  • Elizabeth de Musgrave+3
• Child of Thomas de Musgrave, 1st Lord Musgrave and Margaret de Ros
  • Sir Thomas de Musgrave+4 d. 1372
• Citations
• [S37] BP2003 volume 1, page 347. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
• [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume IX, page 434. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
• [S37] BP2003. [S37]
• [S4053] Christopher Davis, "re: Barton Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger LUNDY (101053), 30 October 2009. Hereinafter cited as "re: Barton Family."
• [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume III, page 291.
• From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p13045.htm#i130449 _____________________________
• Margaret De ROS
• Born: ABT 1270
• Father: Alexander De ROS
• Mother: ¿?
• Married: Thomas De MUSGRAVE ABT 1294
• Children:
  • 1. Thomas MUSGRAVE (b. ABT 1295) (m. Elizabeth Fitzwilliam)
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/ROS.htm#Margaret De ROS1 _____________________
• Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900, Volume 39
• Musgrave, Thomas (d.1384) by Charles Lethbridge Kingsford
• MUSGRAVE, THOMAS, Baron Musgrave (d. 1384), was son of Thomas Musgrave. He represented Westmoreland in parliament from 1341 to 1344 (Return of Members of Parliament, i. 135-40), and was present at the battle of Nevill's Cross on 17 Oct. 1346. In January 1347 he gave an indenture for the custody of Berwick (Cal. of Documents relating to Scotland, iii. 1477). On 20 July 1352 he was directed to arrest robbers in the marches of Scotland. On 4 Oct. 1353 he had a license to crenellate Harca, which had been often destroyed by the Scots, and on 3 March 1359 was appointed to arrest Maria, daughter of William Douglas (ib. iii. 1564, 1572, iv. 45). In 1359 he was sheriff of Yorkshire and custos of York Castle, and in 1368 and subsequent years escheator for Yorkshire, Northumberland, Cumberland, and Westmoreland. In November 1373 he was appointed warden of Berwick for one year, with an allowance of four hundred marks, an appointment that was afterwards extended to November 1378. In the early part of 1377 Berwick was captured by the Scots. Musgrave took part in the operations for its recovery under Henry Percy, earl of Northumberland. On the conclusion of the siege the English invaded Scotland, and the Earls of Northumberland and Nottingham detached a body of three hundred lances and as many archers under the command of Musgrave to occupy Melrose. Two squires, whom Musgrave sent out to reconnoitre, were taken by the Scots, who then endeavoured to surprise him at Melrose. Bad weather prevented their purpose ; but Musgrave, on learning of their approach through his foragers, rode out to meet them on 27 Aug. The Scots were three to one, and after a hard fight the English were defeated, and Musgrave and his son taken prisoners. This is the account given by Froissart; the St. Albans chronicler simply states that Musgrave, during a raid into Scotland, fell into an ambush and was taken prisoner (Chron. Angliæ, 1328-88, pp. 165-6). Musgrave was released under security in January 1378, but on failing to surrender the Earl of March in May forfeited his bail. Eventually a thousand marks was advanced by John Neville for his ransom and that of his son ; this sum was still unpaid on 5 March 1382, when a distress was levied on the Musgraves in consequence. Musgrave was summoned to parliament from 25 Nov. 1350 to 4 Oct. 1373, but the summons was not continued to his descendants. He died in 1384 (Foster, Visitation Pedigrees of Cumberland and Westmoreland). He married Isabella, daughter of Thomas, lord Berkeley, and widow of Robert Clifford. His son Thomas was knighted by him before the fight with the Scots in 1377. Musgrave was ancestor of the Musgraves of Edenhall, Cumberland [see under Musgrave, Sir Philip], Hayton, and Tourin, co. Waterford, on which families baronetcies were conferred in 1611, 1638, and 1782 respectively.
• [Froissart, vii. 37–58, ed. Buchon; Calendar of Documents relating to Scotland, vols. iii. and iv.; Dugdale's Baronage, ii. 153; Burke's Dormant and Extinct Peerage, p. 390; Nicolson and Burn's Westmoreland and Cumberland, i. 590–9, ii. 155 sqq.; Visitation Pedigrees of Cumberland and Westmoreland.]
• From: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Musgrave,_Thomas_(d.1384)_(DNB00) _____________________
• Pedigrees recorded at the heralds' visitations of the counties of Cumberland and Westmorland : made by Richard St. George, Norry, king of arms in 1615, and by William Dugdale, Norry, king of arms in 1666 by Saint-George, Richard, Sir
• https://archive.org/details/pedigreesrecorde00sainrich
• https://archive.org/stream/pedigreesrecorde00sainrich#page/91/mode/1up
  • Musgrave, of Hartley,
• Thomas Musgrave, of * ...... = Margaret, dau. of Sr William Rosse, of Yolton, in com. York, and sister and coh. of Sr Alexander. ; ch: Sr Thomas (m. Elizabeth FitzWilliams) Musgrave.
  • Sr Thomas Musgrave, Knight. = Elizabeth, dau. of William FitzWilliams of Sprotborough. ; ch: Sr Thomas (m. Allice dau. of Earle of Cambridge) Musgrave.
    • Sir Thomas Musgrave, Knight. = Allice, dau. of Richard, Earle of Cambridge, by Maud, dau. of Thomas, Lord Clifford [This Rich., E. of Camb., gave with Allice the manners of Crossby and Morton, in Westmerland.} ; ch: Sr Richard (m. Elizabeth Betham), Margaret (m. Henry Wharton) Musgrave.
      • .... etc.
• https://archive.org/stream/pedigreesrecorde00sainrich#page/92/mode/1up
  • Musgrave, of Eden hall.
• Thomas Musgrave de Musgrave, in com. Westml., 6 E. 1., et 4 E. II. = ; ch: Thomas Musgrave.
  • Thomas Musgrave, ch'r 31 E. III. = ; ch: Thomas (m. Margareta Roos & Maria Vaux) Musgrave.
    • Thomas Musgrave, summonitus ad parliam. ab a° 24, usqz. 47 E. III., obijt. a ͤ 1384, 8 R. II. = Margareta filia et coheires Willi. Roos de Yolton, in com. Ebor. mil. ux. 1 ͣ ; ch: Thomas (obijt. a° 1409) Musgrave; = Maria filia Johis. Vaux relicta Thomæ Holand, comitis Huntington, obijt. a° 1392, 16 R. II., ux. 2°
      • Thomas Musgrave, miles, dns. de Hartley, obijt. a° 1409 (10 H. IV.) = ch: Ricardus (m. Elizabetha Fitzwilliam) Musgrave.
        • Ricardus Musgrave, miles. = Elizabetha (filia Will. Fitzwilliam de Sprotborough, co. Ebor. mil.) obijt. 12 cal. Feb. 1419, (3 H. V.) ; ch: Thomas (m. .... Dacre) Musgrave
          • Thomas Musgrave, filius et hæres obijt. 3 January, a° 1447, (20 H. VI.) = ...... filia Dni. Dacre ; ch: Ricardus (m. Margareta Bethom) Musgrave
            • ..... etc. _____________________________
• The baronetage of England: or The History of the English baronets ..., Volume 1 By William Betham
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• 5. Richard de Musgrave, In 1286, in the partition of the Veteripont inheritance between the two daughters and co-heirs of the last Robert Veteripont, the homage and service of Richard de Musgrave as assigned to Idonea, the younger daughter.
• 6. Thomas de Musgrave, his son and heir, was returned to serve in parliament for the county of Westmorland 14, 15, 17, 18 Edw. III. and in 1341, upon the invasion in the North, made by David Bruce, king of Scotland, he joined with the barons in those parts, was one of the commanders in the van of that army, which gave him Battle near Durham, utterly routing his forces, and taking the king prisoner. The same year he was associated with the bishop of Carlisle and others, in guarding the marches; and in 1342 was made governor of Berwick, and sole justicier throughout all the king's lands in Scotland, and afterwards accompanied Ralph
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• lord Nevil in the Scotch wars, 1356. He received command to reside upon his lands in the marches towards Scotland, for the defence of the country against any incursion. In 1358 he obtained a charter for free warren in all his demesne lands at Musgrave and Souleby, in Westmoreland, with power to impark his woods, called Hevennings, containing 200 acres. He, in 1359, was made governor of York-Castle, and sheriff of Yorkshire. 42 Edw. III. he was constituted Escheator for the counties of York, Northumberland, Cumberland, and Westmoreland; and for his good service had a grant of 100 marks per annum out of the Exchequer. In 1372 he was associated with the Bishop of Carlisle and other in the office of warden of the west marches. At length, after many signal services, and continual trusts, he had the fate to be taken prisoner by the Scots, 1379, with Thomas his son; but procuring John lord Nevil, of Raby, and others, to be sureties for 10,000 marks, they were set at liberty. This Thomas purchased Harcla-Castle from Ranulph, baron of Raby. he was also, for his signal knowledge in national affairs, summoned by writ, among the barons of this kingdom, from 24 to 47 Edw. III. inclusive. He married three wives; 1, Margaret, dau. and co-heir of William Roos of Yotton; 2, Mary, daughter of John Vaux, relict of Thomas Holland, earl of Huntingdon; 3, Isabel, widow of Robert, son of Robert lord Clifford, and daughter to Thomas lord Berkley, by whom he had a daughter, married to Henry Warton; and two sons: Thomas, taken prisoner with his father, and William. He died in 1384, and was succeeded by his son,
• 7. Sir Thomas de Musgrave, Knt. who married Elizabeth, daughter and co-heir of Sir William Fitzwilliam of Sprotsburgh, in Yorkshire. He was sheriff of Cumberland in 1393, and knight of the shire for Westmoreland in 1400. he died in the year 1409, and was succeed by his son,
• 8. Sir Richard de Musgrave, Knt. who, by Elizabbeth ____, left
• 9 Thomas, his son and heir, who married Joan, daughter of William lord Dacre. He died in 1447, leaving Richard, his heir, and Elizabeth, the wife of Henry Wharton.
• 10. Sir Richard Musgrave, Knt., who married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Thomas Betham of Betham-Castle, in Westmoreland, Knt. and sister of Sir Edward Betham, Knt. He died in 1464, and left issue: .... etc. _________________________

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Sir. Baron Thomas Musgrave Sheriff Of York, Knight [9933]

Born: 1302, South Holme, Yorkshire, England

Marriage (1): Baroness Isabel De Clifford (Nee Berkeley) [12232] on 17 Jun 1345 in Gloucester, , Gloucestershire, England

Marriage (2): Margaret De Roos [6942] in 1335 in Youlton, Yorkshire, England

Died: 1379, Kirkby Stephen, , Westmorland, England at age 77

 General Notes:

He is reference number 1633

Appleby St Michael Church

Musgrave "There were no monuments in ye church except a recumbent female figure under a small arch on the north side of the church in ye wall & above it within ye arch was an escutcheon parted per pale in the first 6 annulets; in the second 3 water budgetts, Musgrave most likely, impaling Ross or Rous."* Hill MSS. iv, 65, citing Machell. This figure with annulet charges, & with 2 small shields on cushion, dexter, modern & unfinished; sinister, Roos coat, is now replaced in S. wall. The large stone with impaled arms (as above), and the canopy remains are lying loose, November 1887. *Sir Thomas Musgrave m. circa 1384, Margaret daughter & coh. of Sir William . Ros.

Huddleston observes that the arms for Musgrave and Ross of Youlton are found in the church of Kirkoswald, Westmorland, by which I assume this means this manor was held by the Musgrave family [Reference: C. Roy Huddleston, Cumberland Families and Heraldry, published 1978, pg. 286].

From: Renia Simmonds (PSimmonds@cwcom.net)

According to Burke's Peerage, 1953 (Musgrave of Hartley Castle), the wife of Thomas de Musgrave was Isabel, widow of Robert, son of Robert, Lord Clifford, and dau of Thomas, Lord Berkeley.

Kirkoswald Castle is not mentioned, but Thomas de Musgrave was returned to Parliament by the county of Westmorland (Ed II) and summoned as a Baron from 25 November 1350 to 4 October 1373.

Burke's 1953 (de Clifford) gives Robert, 3rd Lord de Clifford, b 1305, m June 1328, Isabel, dau of Maurice, 4th Lord Berkeley, and d 20 May 1344, leaving a son Robert. (The Cliffords were of Herefordshire, which suggests that Kirkoswald was not Clifford property, by whatever means.) Burkes 1953 (Berkeley) gives Maurice de Berkeley,

2nd Lord Berkeley, who had summons to Parliament as Lord Berkeley of Berkeley Castle 1308-1321, in 1314 he was Governor of the town and Castle of Berwick-upon-Tweed (which office was also held by Thomas de Musgrave in 21 Ed III (c1348)).

Kirkoswald was not mentioned in Domesday Book - very little of Westmorland was, it then being deemed part of Yorkshire, and being practically ignored, along with Cumberland.

The website which Chris Dickenson recommended, has this to say:

Here were anciently seated the lords of Burgh, and the knightly family of Morvil, from whom the manor of Kirkoswald passed to the Multons, and from them to the Dacres, whose co-heiress sold it to an ancestor of Sir George Musgrave, Bart, the present lord of the manor, and lord paramount of the other inferior manors in this parish, for which he holds a court at Kirkoswald, yearly.

Renia

Sometime in or before 1399, an Isabel, styled "lady of Kirkoswald," married (as his 2nd wife) Robert Plumpton, Knt. (b. ca. 1340, died 1407), of Plumpton, County York, and afterwards in or before 1414 to Nicholas Middleton, Knt., of Stockeld. This Isabel's identity has never been ascertained.

1348 was made Governor of Berwick ans solle Justicier thuout all the Kings Lands in Scotland

1361 obtained a charter for free warren in all his Demesne Lands at Musgrave and Souleby in Westmorland, County, England with power to impark his woods, called Hevenimgs in Musgrave containing 200 acres.

1362 He was made Sheriff of Yorkshire and Govevenor of York Castle

He was later constituted Eschaetor for York and Northumberland Counties, and received 100 mark per year for his services.

1373 was associated with Bishop of Carlisle as Warden of West Marches.

1379 was taken prisoner by the Scots with his son Thomas, but by procuring 10,000 marks from Lord John Nevil they were set free.

Thomas, for his undoubted loyalty to his Prince, and upon some other Terms and considerations, had given him, by King Ed. III, Harcla or Hartley Castle, the forfeited Estate of Sir Andrew de Harcla, Earl of Carlisle who lsuffered for Treason 15Ed.2.

Others say that he purchased the Castle from Ranulph of Raby

He was also, for his signal knowledge in National Affairs, summoned by Writ, amongst The Barons of this Kingdom from 24 to 47Ed.3 inclusive (1350-1373). Dy'd 8R2 (1384)."

"In 1378 Squire Alexander Ramsay of Dalhousie seized Berwick castle. . .Ramsay found himself in a bit of a dilemas as the town was still held by Governor Thomas De Musgrave who called on the Earl of Northumberland with his young son Harry(Hotspur Percy). . .Ramsay was not popular on both sides of the border. . .many Scots borderers were hostile to a rescue attempt to help Ramsay escape. . .The English army numbered around 10,0000. . .Reluctantly the armywithdrew heading towards Melrose to supplort local forces in resisting the expected English counter attack. . .Archibald's presence had not gone unnoticed by the English as Thomas De Musgrave and several units of heavy horse quickly pursed, catching the Scots just short of Melrose." Several Scots units caught up & Musgrave was unhorsed & forced to yield for ransom by Gordon. The remaining English not already slain fled back to Berwick with news of their defeat. .". . .Archibald also knighted some of the other squires in the euphoria of victory and the prospect of much gold and silver for Musgrave and the other hostages safe return." Andrew Spratt, Reconstruction of Berwick Castle and the Battle of Melrose. - "Shellie Neighbors" sneighbors@wagonerps.org

King Hen. VII who by the Slaughter of King Rich. III in Bosworth-field, obtained the Crown. Harkla-Castle, a Seat of the antient Family of Musgraves, Men of great Renown in this County, for Thomas Musgrave, Knt. Was one of those Gentlemen in these Parts, who, upon that Invasion in the North made by David Brus, King of Scotland, put himself in Arms, and commanding the Van of the Army, gave him Battle, and having routed the Scots, took the King himself and divers of his Nobles Prisoners. He sat in Parliament from 24 Edw. III. To the forty-seventh Year of the same King, but he was the only Baron of the Family. His Descendants still kept up their Grandure, for another Thomas Musgrave, was one of the Knights of the Shire 1 Hen. IV. And in the Reign of King Philip and Queen Mary, Sir Richard Musgrave of this House was so considerable for Honour and Wealth, that Thomas Lord Wharton, who in the Reign of King Henry VIII. Had, with the Assistance of Sir William Musgrave, put 1500 Scots to flight at Carlisle, took his Daughter Anne to Wife. Heartley-Castle, another Seat of the Musgraves, more antient than the former at Harcla-Castle. We find nothing material of the Family relating to their Seat here, but this, That Thomas Musgrave of Queens College, Oxford, who was created Doctor of Divinity in 1685, Octob. 10 was Son of Sir Philip Musgrave, Bart. Of this Place, who was a Person of signal Loyalty to King Charles I. in his Troubles. This Doctor became Archdeacon of Carlisle in 1669, was installed Prebendary of Durham, July 12, 1675. as also Prebendary of Chichester, Nov. 10 1681, and at length Dean of Carlisle upon the Promotion of Dr. Thomas Smith to the Episcopal See in 1684. He died in the Beginning of April 1686. The Manor of Hertley, 13 Rich. II was the Estate of Roger Lord Clifford 4th, who died then possessed of it, and left it to his Son and Heir Thomas. Helbeck

In the chapel of Kirkby Stephen belonging to Hartley Castle is a figure of a man in armour, with a sword girt to his side, a lion couchant, and a truncheon or broken spear at his feet, with some amulets on the breast plate. This is supposed, by some, to be an effigy of Baron Musgrave, who died in 1379; and, by others, a cenotaph, in memory of Sir Andrew de Harcla, who was attainted and beheaded in 1322, by Edward II; but the former supposition is by far the most probable.

1st Lord Musgrave1

 Noted events in his life were:

• Death: Kirkby Stephen, , Westmorland, England. Hartley Castle,

• Occupation. See Notes-Great Musgrave, Westmorland, England

Thomas married Baroness Isabel De Clifford (Nee Berkeley) [12232] [MRIN: 3417], daughter of Maurice 'The Magnanimous' De Berkeley [3327] and Baroness Eve La Zouche Of Berkeley [10022], on 17 Jun 1345 in Gloucester, , Gloucestershire, England. (Baroness Isabel De Clifford (Nee Berkeley) [12232] was born in 1307 in Wallingford, , Berkshire, England and died on 25 Jul 1362 in Kirkby Stephen, , Westmorland, England.)

Thomas next married Margaret De Roos [6942] [MRIN: 1275] in 1335 in Youlton, Yorkshire, England. (Margaret De Roos [6942] was born in 1298 in Youlton, Yorkshire, England and died on 17 Oct 1357 in Great Musgrave, , Westmorland, England.)

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