Sir Thomas de Musgrave, III

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Sir Thomas de Musgrave is the son of Thomas de Musgrave, 1st Lord Musgrave and Margaret de Ros.1 He married Elizabeth FitzWilliam circa 1354.1 Sir Thomas de Musgrave held the office of Sheriff of Cumberland.1

Child of Sir Thomas de Musgrave and Elizabeth FitzWilliam

• 1.Sir Richard Musgrave+1

Citations 1.[S4053] Christopher Davis, "re: Barton Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger LUNDY (101053), 30 October 2009. Hereinafter cited as "re: Barton Family."

The Baronetage of England: or The History of the English Baronets ..., Volume 1 By William Betham Pg.79 [available as Google eBook]

http://books.google.com/books?id=5ikwAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=R...

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Sir. Knight Thomas Musgrave [1315]

Born: 1337, Kirkby Stephen, , Westmorland, England

Marriage (1): Elizabeth Fitzwilliam [736] before 1355 in Sandford, , Westmorland, England

Marriage (2): Mary Vaux De Strothre [8367]

Died: 1409, Kirkby Stephen, , Westmorland, England at age 72

Buried: 1409, Kirkby Stephen, , Westmorland, England

   Ancestral File Number: 116P-X5G.

General Notes:
He is reference number 1631

Thomas de Musgrave and Isabel however also had a son Thomas , whose daughter and heiress Avice married Thomas de Hellebeck, and amongst other lands the Hellebecks held the manor of Smardale which they granted to Guido de Smardale in 1291, except half a carucate and six acres - the same amount of land that Robert to Sandford had kept back from his grant to Nigel de Smardale in 1203. (b) It seems that somehow or other the Musgraves had become possessed of a considerable portion of the Sandford lands. Smardale, as we have sees, descended to a daughter, but the manor of Sandford went down in the male line of the Musgraves till 1356, when, as will be seen in due course it once more came back to the Sandfords.

Sometime in or before 1399, an Isabel, styled "lady of Kirkoswald," married (as his 2nd wife) Robert Plumpton, Knt. (b. ca. 1340, died 1407), of Plumpton, County York, and afterwards in or before 1414 to Nicholas Middleton, Knt., of Stockeld. This Isabel's identity has never been ascertained.

Query: Is Isabel, lady of Kirkoswald, by any chance the surviving widow of Thomas de Musgrave (died ca. 1372)?

If the Musgraves held the manor of Kirkoswald, it could have been assigned to her to hold in dower.

If so, it would explain why she was called lady of Kirkoswald. It would also explain why the arms of Thomas de Musgrave and those of his mother were in the Kirkoswald church.

I'd appreciate it if someone can verify that the Musgrave family held the manor of Kirkoswald in this period.

Best always, Douglas Richardson E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com

 Research Notes:

FILE - Swinburne Manuscript Vol. 2 - ref. ZSW/2 - date: 12th - 17th centuries

item: Grant - ref. ZSW/2/36 - date: 20 Jan 1373

0100090000035400000003001c00000000000400000003010600050000000c02ec09c41d07000000fc020000000000000000040000002d01000008000000fa0200000000000000000000040000002d0101001c000000fb020c00090000000000900100000000000202024d532053616e73205365726966000a0027008a0100000000ffffffff78d31300040000002d010200080000002105030068697400b0fd0908030000000000[from Scope and Content] Thomas de Musgrave, knight, to Thomas de Musgrave son of junior Thomas de Musgrave, knight, and Mary his wife daughter of Adam de Strothre, two parts of the manor of Hautwysell and Tollam wode within the liberty of Tyndale, together with the reversion of a third part of the manor which John de Whitfeld and Elizabeth his wife hold and with two sheilings and a moiety of one sheiling called Sundayburn and Rampeschaw and (...Lampard...) in dower of the said Elizabeth and passing to Thomas de Musgrave junior and his heirs male on her death, remainder to the heirs of Thomas de Musgrave senior. Witnesses: John de Screvelin, Adomar de Attwel, knights, John de Veteri Ponte, Hugh de Rodley, John de Thirlewall, Alan de Ballingham at Hautwaysell, Wednesday next after the feast of St. Hillary 1372

 Noted events in his life were:

• Birth: Kirkby Stephen, , Westmorland, England. Hartley Castle,

• Death: Kirkby Stephen, , Westmorland, England. Hartley Castle,

Thomas married Elizabeth Fitzwilliam [736] [MRIN: 303] before 1355 in Sandford, , Westmorland, England. (Elizabeth Fitzwilliam [736] was born in 1337 in Sprotbrough, , Yorkshire, England and died in 1416 in Kirkby Stephen, , Westmorland, England.)

 Noted events in their marriage were:

• Marriage. Betham Castle

Thomas next married Mary Vaux De Strothre [8367] [MRIN: 4976]. (Mary Vaux De Strothre [8367] was born about 1340 in Westmorland, England and died about 1392 in Sandford, , Westmorland, England.)

He held the office of Sheriff of Cumberland. He was knighted in 1372