Who will find the link... FUN Geni Competition .. Who can help us find the link with Europe for van Der Merwe and Du Plessis

Charles du Plessis

Schalk Willemsz van der Merwe

Hey Mauritz, well stop the competition, the answer is too easy: I am the link of course. LOL. (and with me ................ others :-) ). (half europe?)

and if you are not content with me as the link, their connection is somewhere (I am too lazy to look good at it) at the Foreest area...
I looked at my connection with both and saw the area that they have in common.

What have I won? ;-) Is it the million dollar question? Good, I can use some money!

Hey Jennie

Not quite. But as booby prize, your 14day Pro Trial is in the post.

The point is our links are currently through a generation in the 1200's

What we are looking for is the link in the 1500 and 1600's.

These are the touch points in roughly 1200

http://www.geni.com/people/Dani%C3%ABl-III-V-van-der-Merwede/600000...

http://www.geni.com/people/In%C3%A9s-de-Poitou-reina-consorte-de-Ar...

Incidentally with all the common ancestors we should have in 1500 and 1600. These, I believe are the only ones that link South Africa to the 'motherlandand' that I know of to date... Actually. that is not true. I know van Der Stel is linked to descendents in Europe and South Africa.

People may find it interesting that as Van der Merwe and Du Plessis were relatively early arrivals at the cape they are ascendents to a very large % of South Africans. So much so that I've seen van Der Merwe repeated in someones tree 6x...They are for us probably close to the proverbial 'Adams'..

So what we want to do here is cut our current relationships in half.
http://www.geni.com/path/Charlize+Theron+is+related+to+Jennie+Schou...

27th cousin in reality should be something like 10th or 12th..

Competition Clock still running..

eeek.. seems I lied about van der Stel..

Now I want to know all about it. Details please! LOL

If we cut our current relationships in half then Charlize, my 8th cousin once removed, will be my 4 cousin once removed :-)

We all want to get closer to Charlize, don't we?

Well, all? Speak for yourself George. I want to get closer to George Clooney and if I may cut that in halt too than I am nearby him (keep on dreaming is a good thing LOL)

Is there a chance the BREET-family is a link? Here in 's-Hertogenbosch I know
http://www.vantolenbreet.nl/
and they have a lot of information about the links between Europe & South Africa, but are to busy working to have time to spent on geni.
Maybe some-one should ask them to join the puzzel....

Maybe they are interested in joining my project-paragraph about silver-&-gold-smiths
http://www.geni.com/projects/Zilver-uit-s-Hertogenbosch
http://www.geni.com/projects/het-Bossche-Gilde-van-Goudsmeden-since...
Ik hoop het, want dan kan ik mijn meest oorspronkelijke en voor mij belangrijkste project:
http://www.geni.com/projects/Zilversmeden-in-de-familie
weer oppakken.

I have goldsmiths in Amsterdam for you, but I haven't logged them, I'm afraid :-( (we'll find them back). However, look for the father of Frans van Mieris, the painter, as well as one of Frans' brothers. They were goldsmiths, first in The Hague and then in Leiden!

Willem Breet

Another one that should surely be possible:

Adriaen Gerritsz van Wijk

will you please add the ones with Dutch birthplaces to the project:

http://www.geni.com/projects/Ⓓutch-◦-Ⓓocumentation-◦-Ⓓepartment

for then we can search for people in the Netherlands who like to investigate these name and descendants_ancestry together with people interested in your countries. So we can encourage cooperation & collaboration between people nowadays to search for links between our cultural inheritage. thanks, jeannette.

Oh come on our Nederlandstalige vriende. As julle niet eers met Deze andere kan link, miskien is Willem Dircxsz. van Z(S)ijlen mogenlijk?

Als hij geen Willem maar GERRIT had geheten, was hij waarschijnlijk wel te vinden in:
http://home.planet.nl/~vorm/1652naaldwijk.pdf

had hij geen broers of zussen met die naam?

@ Jeannette
I have this Breed link but can not find the link with my family, how can you help getting Breed(t) (Breed, Breet, Breedt) in your country to help.

http://members.quicknet.nl/jaw.buisman/genea/groen/gen/ksgenealogy-...

geni greetings

i'll do my best, ok?

So we can choose between: BREET ~ BREED ~ BREEDT ~ also: BREAD?
maybe it's good to start with a kind of definitiion of the family-name we are going to search for.... and I propose to start a project in the way we do for others in the DDD-sphere: dutch-dynasty-deposits:
http://www.geni.com/projects/ⓓutch-◦-ⓓynasty-◦-ⓓeposit

that means that it is totally temporarily and just to make it possible for everyone to work together on a name that originally might come from the Netherlands and have descendants wherever in this global world.
That's why I'll start for you and others: ⓓ ◦ BREET~BREED-etc. Is that ok?

Ja thats right, in SA we have the surname spelled in the three ways, Breed, Breet and Breedt. It was traced back to a single SV/Prog nl Jacob Breed. His name was also spelled both Breed & Breet - in Netherland. Look at the site www.breedt.co.za

Hey Willem! I haven't looked into it - but are you all saying that the line of the Breets needs more work in Holland? I have come across a few Breed profiles when researching the Amsterdam families. But, true enough, it was only sporadic. Should I put it on my to-do list?

Dirck Thonisz van Schalkwijk

I couldn't link to the DDD-project, but is born in UTRECHT, so maybe some other geni-user can do it?
http://www.geni.com/projects/Ⓓutch-◦-Ⓓocumentation-◦-Ⓓepartment

then we can look for portraits, wiki-documentation and other internet-things making this profile interesting for his family-members.

@george
Look at the quote before where i list a Breed/Breet family tree that is in Holland

Yes, Willem, what I meant was... are you on a dead end with regards to linking the SA Breed to Dutch Breed?

@George
Yes I do not find links to our SV with other Breeds

OK! The search is on :-)

Hey Willem, have you already examined this document?... http://files.archieven.nl/131/f/0T/m-0717_481-670_.pdf
Given that I see indications at the top of your tree to Edam, this link gives you you extracts of notary archives in Edam. It has a count of 105 references to Breed and 15 to Breet. It also includes a lot of the first names at the top of your tree (Jacob, Jan).